Another BROMPTON CLONE?
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- The latest & greatest Mantell Trifold with smooth brazings which also has 1:1 frame dimensions to a Brompton.
Here are my initial impressions on the bike itself! Is this Mantell trifold better than my stock RUSTY Nickel Aceoffix? However, I have also seen some Mantell frames with worm rusts, so please do take note.
Gary, from BikeXpress is kind enough to show me his beautiful bikes. He mainly focuses on 3Sixty trifolds with custom colourways. Today, he has a few limited edition Mantell trifolds for viewing & sale:)
There will be a special discount if you quote "Ray" for Mantell trifolds:D
Mantell Link: shope.ee/5UqkC...
Gary's Carousell: www.carousell....
Ride safe and happy:D
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Without the Brompton, nothing would have happened!
Respect🙏 Brompton paved the way for trifolds:) I wish to be able to afford the P Line one day.
Since young, Bromptons are like the Transformers of foldable bikes to me. The folding just make so much sense and is so practical! Respect 🙏
Bromptons are always a dream to me till one day OEMs start to appear and my dreams become a reality, sort of...
That’s true, but they don’t innovate after, most of the new improvements are ideas copied from the aftermarket and the imitators.
They keep the price high by limiting their productions, using antiques cottage industries method. Those expensive handmade products are good quality but exclusive.
Brompton milked their invention to the upmost, the high price is almost of snob value and they play on the Anglophiles superior English attitudes, like British racing green, London Olympic and other editions.
I have an old Brompton with electric conversion and like it too much, but it’s really heavy especially carrying between stations.
I don’t really care much for the traditions, and would gladly swap it for a ultra light clone, but cannot justify the additional expenses for the seldom used bike.
@@madsam0320 well said!!! You have pointed out everything !!! Haha...
@@madsam0320 "Those who follow in the footsteps, will never come first"! But Brompton still produces most parts in expensive England, and even my Top -"Ligthweigth", with a titanium fork and back, have been updated with with Chinese parts as a new titanium seat post and other parts. But making processes be made by an automated machine, may give as inexpensive production prices as copy parts made in the east. But prices are naturally also given by the local area, and as the EU, at least in the North, are among the richest areas in the world, it also gives high price products!
I have thought about buying a titanium frame for mine, but I'm a tall and heavy man so may I trust that a frame made for mostly smaller and not that tall persons are able to stand my weight also?
Fantastic bikes. Wow!
Wow! Another trifold brand to consider! I wonder what's the weight of this bike....10kg? I think the black as well as the silvery nickel colours are nice. Thanks for this video, Ray!
It is under 10kg :) Thanks for the support! I like the nickel color as well.
Hey Ray, really like the videos you're putting out. I was just wondering between Pikes and Aceoffix, which ones do you prefer and why? I can only think of the weight benefits of Aceoffix but what do you lose out if you pick the Aceoffix over the Pikes?
Also wanted to ask what gear you're using for filming :).
Thanks!
Hi Mistogan, thank you for motivating me to make more videos for the community:)
I did a comparison video on the hill climb for the Aceoffix Vs Pikes Experience. And why I prefer 3speeds external over Pike's internal hub. Do check it out 😉
I also made a full review on the Aceoffix on why external speeds roll better than internal hub, IMO. Do check it out too ☺️
Overall, I would choose the 3speeds external over the internal hub. Aceoffix over Pikes for me.
I will do a in-depth comparison between Pikes and Aceoffix soon:D
I am currently using a GoPro for this video while my previous videos were filmed on my Oppoa Reno 5 Phone.
Ride safe and happy!
@@raylearnstofilm6668 Thanks mate! Will check out those videos :). Happy filming and can't wait to see more too.
@@mistogan-9473 thanks mate :D
You should try to try Crius trifold.
I just got it this year during Feb.
10 speed, external gear etc…
Hi Brandon, I look forward to trying one day. I tried something similar to crius trifold, the mint trifold. How is the folding to you for 10speed? Any challenges faced when folding?
@@raylearnstofilm6668 folding just need to shift to gear 5/6 then can fold due to the cassette the higher the gear the more it will protude out thus will bock the clip from clipping onto the bike rack.
@@donden yesss, that's the same thing I observed on the mint trifold using Shimano external derailuer.
There is a solution to this, check out Ltwoo Derailuer for Brompton, very good shifting and also I don't think it faces the same challenge. Amazing how China manages to design such a wonderful new toy.
Of all the Brompton clones, which titanium clone has the best build quality?
There are so many of these Brompton clones on the market now, it has left me lost as to which one to buy. I don't like the Brompton for it's weight, price & crude execution. I would prefer a bike with 100 mm & 135 mm drop out spacing to make it easier to upgrade parts. I would like a nicely welded & finished bike with good but not necessarily lycra class parts, possibly disc brakes & an Alfine hub. Am I anywhere close to what is available? Thank you.
Yo! Do check out Liaoge's RUclips channel. He has a few trifolds that come with the more common dropout dimensions for the rear triangle and front fork.
mobot royale? or sava folding bikes have disc brakes
@@kk-pz8gn Thanks
What is the weight? Any titanium fork and triangle for the Mantell bike?
Weight is 10kg approx, no Titanium fork or triangle but you can modify it with aftermarket parts or Brompton Titanium parts.
Nice bike.
May I know can brompton mudguard fix on aceoffix bike?
Hi Rich,
Yes, the stock Mantell bike and 3Sixty bikes do look good👍👍👍
As for mudguard, you can fix Brompton on Aceoffix and Mantell trifolds since the frame dimensions are 1:1 to Brompton.
I would prefer Archer's 3 Speed Hub over external Gears! Brooks B17 Leather Saddle over the Saddle fitted on the Mantell.
Hi BK, what are the things you like about the archer 3s over the external gears?
Saddle wise, I also prefer the Brooks B17 over one C17.
I had a SA SRF5 fitted to a Dahon Mu Uno. Within 6 months of riding in the hills of Chiang Mai Thailand, the hub was destroyed. No local bike shops could fix it so I brought it back to the US. Bike mechanics in the US said "replace it" since US labor rate was higher than cost of new hub.
@@kwhatten that's my initial worry on internal hubs, the mechanism and gears are out of this world!
This is a really nice walk through video but please soften the music (it's not really too loud, it's that sharp beat that obscures your's and Gary's words) in the future because I can't understand what you're saying sometimes. Thank you!
Thank you Zenith for your kind compliments and constructive feedback. Will make sure I get the balance right.
@@raylearnstofilm6668 you're welcome! I didn't expect a response but I appreciate real videos like yours and I realize most people would just click off the video or dislike it if it's not polished and perfect 😄 I don't have the wherewithal or Comfort level to do videography like this but I do like to do my research on RUclips. I appreciate people like you willing to put yourself out there. I actually bought a Brompton last year as it was almost the same price as any of the Clones here in the United States. I would really like to have a second bike now for traveling and when friends are visiting so I'm trying to find a cheaper option that is as compact because holy crap Brompton has increased in price in the last year! Everything imported is likely going to continue going up. It looks like the mobot camp Royale seems to be the highest quality/ reliable clone. I wouldn't mind going for something lower-quality if it was going to be a significant cost-savings but in the States were talking a couple hundred dollars difference and this isn't something I'm looking to replace, it's a long-term investment.
@@NoZenith Haha, I wlll try my best to respond as soon as possible.
I like filming and sharing content ☺️ I am inspired by Casey Neistat & MKBHD based in America.
My videos are created based off my personal unbiased views where I hope I can share to the cycling community or people who wants to get bike that suits their needs.
Bromptons are really expensive/a luxury product to me. I hope I have the chance to own one in future. But with the rising options for trifolds, I can wait. Haha...
Pikes trifold is as good as Mobots trifolds, which is also affordable. Infact, I considered between this two brands before getting Pikes.
Ride safe and happy:)
@@raylearnstofilm6668 thank you for your first hand opinion on the Pikes versus mobot. I'll keep my eyes open for both
@@NoZenith cheers, so many options, slowly choose.
Awesome :)
Thank you Trishaaa:))
Sounds like Martell(vsop) 😛
So basically it is an upgraded version of Aceoffix?
Yes, really sound like the expensive whiskey:D
Yep, it is an improved Aceoffix:) but also must see got any rust before buying.
What is the price ? Thks
1500SGD around there.
Where is your shop located?
I don't own a shop, I only like to film and edit. Check out BikeXpress on carousell
Hi, I meant Gary’s shop. Thanks
@@momchweeseah2076 he is home based, that is his storage facility.
what is the wheel size please?
Where can I buey and hoy much danés it cost?
What's the price and weight?
I prefer external gear because for me its easy to fix
But you can only buy in china. I guess.
I am in Spain
Mint is better for tall people above 1.85 has external gear of 9 speed dispite the premium style expensive yes light but only 3 speed difficult when climb slop.
Hello Mr Peace,
Yes, Mint feels longer when I first rode it. It is a nice bike for the price. Very value for money. However, I find the folding a bit difficult when it comes to 9speed.. do you feel the same?
@@raylearnstofilm6668 yes . Due to 9 speed cassttle but it a value bike .i lubricate the joint extended the roller wheel. Need more practice so far good
@@peacenowar6920 practice makes perfect, good bike, I like the nickel electroplated mint color.
What?? Why is there music? I can’t even here what the guy in the mask is saying!
2x the price of aceoffix😔