The delay doesnt delay the darkening of a hood. It delays the return of the normal color after the arc stops..... Alot of people seem to misunderstand that. 👍
I bought the Sentinel right after it released and loved it. It's a good helmet and was better than anything I had tried to that point. Then I pulled the trigger on the Panaramaxx and IMHO I it far superior. The clarity is better. The light shade is lighter (better). When you use the GRIND button on the Optrel a blue light blinks rapidly so you know it's on. The Sentinel has a similar feature (orange light) but it blinks slower and it is possible to flash yourself if you aren't paying attention. Also, what they said about the Sentinel rolling and scratching the lens is correct. Very prone. I like the adjustability of the Sentinel headgear much better than the OPTREL, BUT the Optrel holds up better over time. The Crystal uses the same headgear design of the PanaramaxxThe ESAB has a little foam pad connected to the back of the headgear that wears over time and has a tendency to peel back. One other thing. I didn't fact check the # of sensors but I will tell you that I have flashed myself multiple times using my Sentinel in restricted position welds. I tried my Optrel in the exact same position and haven't been flashed once. I will probably buy the Crystal 2.0 and keep as a straight TIG helmet and keep using my Panaramaxx for stick welding since I've already beaten it up quite a bit by welding overhead. I was originally planning on doing that using the Sentinel for stick and the Optrel for tig but felt that Optrel was so much better that it didn't make sense to not use it for both. Is the Sentinel a good weld hood? Yes. Do I think the Optrel is better? Absolutely.
I've got both the esab a50 and optrel panoramax And in all honesty the esab was definitely the better buy, (esab costing me $500nzd and optrel panoramax being $1k+) Esab comes touch screen, better premium headband , hood doesn't just close on you, everything feels better Optrel comes with the budget headband that you'll find on those budget permanent dark shade hoods, (for 1k+ the only nice thing about the helmet is that it's got a Google style welding screen) Auto darkening isn't really a thing , if you switch from tig to mig you'll know straight of the bat to either reduce shade or increase, because everyone's eyes react to light differently, so even with auto mode you'll be needing to fine adjust the auto darkening mode regardless making the function pointless, and controls are even budget
Oh and the grind feature was to dark for grinding but good for cutting. The knobs on the side constantly had to readjust as it moves if you bump it. I would to recommend this brand.
Finally got sick of my over priced Optral Welding helmet. With the blur lines when welding it produced. 1st one did this and the second replacement did this. Would think for $550 it would work perfect for the year 2003.
Divination.21 we intended the information supplied to be based on beginners experience. There are more in depth reviews that can be found on you tube. Our conclusion were based on comparison that is purely side by side likes or dislikes, value of the products because there is a pretty significant range in pricing. We can’t comment on battery life as both products are brand new and as of the time of this response batteries are still strong. I believe we did discuss the neck coverage, referenced in the size of the lip at the base of both helmets. I understand you feel we didn’t deliver a in depth review but our intent was opinions from our purchase decisions and general feedback was all we were offering.
Clarity was really close. I think it comes down to the users eyesight. Both of us are in our 50’s and have added diopters to assist in magnification. My feeling is the larger viewing area of the ESAB seems to give the feeling of larger view area. The claims are optrel has more natural color because it filters the red better. But I think both of us would call it a draw.
@@2520hollywood the optrel has a clarity of 1/1/1/1 and the esab has 1/1/1/2 both cool hoods .i think low amp tig welding is where we would see the difference.
I own the esab hood and like it. The head gear is where the difference is. Esab sentinel has a great headgear design, very comfortable for long hours. Thanks for the video.
@@2520hollywood I have the Optrel Panaramaxx. I had the Sentinel. I like Optrel more, but there was a definite price difference. I paid 267.12 for the Sentinel. I paid more than 500 for the Optrel. Is it twice as good as the ESAB? No. Would I choose an Optrel hood over the Sentinel? Yes. But my Panaramaxx has like 3 times the viewing area of a traditional helmet. Call your local rep or supply house and see if you can demo both hoods. Then make your choice.
The delay doesnt delay the darkening of a hood. It delays the return of the normal color after the arc stops.....
Alot of people seem to misunderstand that. 👍
Love the chemistry between you two. Great video!
I bought the Sentinel right after it released and loved it. It's a good helmet and was better than anything I had tried to that point. Then I pulled the trigger on the Panaramaxx and IMHO I it far superior. The clarity is better. The light shade is lighter (better). When you use the GRIND button on the Optrel a blue light blinks rapidly so you know it's on. The Sentinel has a similar feature (orange light) but it blinks slower and it is possible to flash yourself if you aren't paying attention. Also, what they said about the Sentinel rolling and scratching the lens is correct. Very prone. I like the adjustability of the Sentinel headgear much better than the OPTREL, BUT the Optrel holds up better over time. The Crystal uses the same headgear design of the PanaramaxxThe ESAB has a little foam pad connected to the back of the headgear that wears over time and has a tendency to peel back. One other thing. I didn't fact check the # of sensors but I will tell you that I have flashed myself multiple times using my Sentinel in restricted position welds. I tried my Optrel in the exact same position and haven't been flashed once.
I will probably buy the Crystal 2.0 and keep as a straight TIG helmet and keep using my Panaramaxx for stick welding since I've already beaten it up quite a bit by welding overhead. I was originally planning on doing that using the Sentinel for stick and the Optrel for tig but felt that Optrel was so much better that it didn't make sense to not use it for both. Is the Sentinel a good weld hood? Yes. Do I think the Optrel is better? Absolutely.
I own the A50 air and do low amp tig and the clarity is incredible! Wear it for around 7 hours a day very comfortable.
Thank god for this video lol.been struggling to pick one of these.thanks!!
I've got both the esab a50 and optrel panoramax
And in all honesty the esab was definitely the better buy, (esab costing me $500nzd and optrel panoramax being $1k+)
Esab comes touch screen, better premium headband , hood doesn't just close on you, everything feels better
Optrel comes with the budget headband that you'll find on those budget permanent dark shade hoods, (for 1k+ the only nice thing about the helmet is that it's got a Google style welding screen)
Auto darkening isn't really a thing , if you switch from tig to mig you'll know straight of the bat to either reduce shade or increase, because everyone's eyes react to light differently, so even with auto mode you'll be needing to fine adjust the auto darkening mode regardless making the function pointless, and controls are even budget
I own the Optrel and before I had a miller love my optrel panoramax I owned for 4 months and no problems at all.
Oh and the grind feature was to dark for grinding but good for cutting. The knobs on the side constantly had to readjust as it moves if you bump it. I would to recommend this brand.
Both of you should try Gogonova GT002-M for fraction of the cost with pretty much have the same feature.
I own both helmets lil. Next ima get the optrel 2.0
Finally got sick of my over priced Optral Welding helmet. With the blur lines when welding it produced. 1st one did this and the second replacement did this. Would think for $550 it would work perfect for the year 2003.
Currently trying to decide between these two and also the Lincoln 3350 (where I am it's no cheaper than the two others, A50 is the cheapest)
Dennis A I love my 3350 4C, I bought it after my digital elite died. I can’t see myself using anything else now
It's the Bald Wizard!
why not arc shots, through the lens or did i missed it
A lot of hood reviews forget the most important part. Shame..
Not the best info.. what about head gear, differences between clarity n color , face n neck coverage , battery life and view range ?
Divination.21 we intended the information supplied to be based on beginners experience. There are more in depth reviews that can be found on you tube.
Our conclusion were based on comparison that is purely side by side likes or dislikes, value of the products because there is a pretty significant range in pricing. We can’t comment on battery life as both products are brand new and as of the time of this response batteries are still strong. I believe we did discuss the neck coverage, referenced in the size of the lip at the base of both helmets. I understand you feel we didn’t deliver a in depth review but our intent was opinions from our purchase decisions and general feedback was all we were offering.
Which one had the best clarity
Clarity was really close. I think it comes down to the users eyesight. Both of us are in our 50’s and have added diopters to assist in magnification. My feeling is the larger viewing area of the ESAB seems to give the feeling of larger view area. The claims are optrel has more natural color because it filters the red better. But I think both of us would call it a draw.
@@2520hollywood the optrel has a clarity of 1/1/1/1 and the esab has 1/1/1/2 both cool hoods .i think low amp tig welding is where we would see the difference.
I own the esab hood and like it. The head gear is where the difference is. Esab sentinel has a great headgear design, very comfortable for long hours. Thanks for the video.
Neil Neil thanks for the comment, I think ESAB did a good job
@@eddie19011987 the 2 on clarity scale is cause the rounded shield at certain angles can be deceiving
The best for me???? My 20n year old hood with a flip lens----gold
American Optics for the win!
Awesome
How do they hold up to overhead stick or FCAW welding? Thanks.
Kelvin Williams I weld 7018 at 140 amps with esab i like it
Overhead I will use my tigerhood. I have the esab sentinel. I will never overhead with any automatic hood.
Esab? rather have the setting controls of the Optrel!
can you put a magnified lens in the Optrel
tom bull yes you can if you look on the Optrel website they have magnifying lens in differs powers.
Vulcan welding is good
Qual o valor esab
Na klar spreche ich Deutsch 🇩🇪
Quero a lente ende encontro
Somebody please answer me which one is better bottom line
I think they both are great, the difference is how much money you wanna spend. The ESAB is a great value for the money.
@@2520hollywood I have the Optrel Panaramaxx. I had the Sentinel. I like Optrel more, but there was a definite price difference. I paid 267.12 for the Sentinel. I paid more than 500 for the Optrel. Is it twice as good as the ESAB? No. Would I choose an Optrel hood over the Sentinel? Yes. But my Panaramaxx has like 3 times the viewing area of a traditional helmet. Call your local rep or supply house and see if you can demo both hoods. Then make your choice.
If you want to waste more money buy the optrel. If you want to be practical but the esab.
It was like what watching into German guys I didn't get what I wanted to know
The clear technology means nothing with a giant plastic cover that gets super scratched so fast…don’t spend this money be smart don’t be trendy
Sprechen sie deutsch xD
The esab a40 is the best priced helmet