[Hearthstone] How Good Is Curse of Rafaam?
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2016
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Review & gameplay highlighting why and how you should be playing Rafaam’s Curse.
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Basicly the ultimate ice block counter. take that freeze mage
+BEASTfckingCOAST Because freeze mage is lame
+BEASTfckingCOAST Not really a fair matchup in a control/control game. There is no brain required when a single thaurissan tick gives you 30+ damage depending on what's in your hand.
+BEASTfckingCOAST Having your minions frozen every turn by an invincible hero with infinite fireballs is very fun and interactive.
+Gene Zibi more fun amd interactive then playing against aggro decks if you ask me
+Azael DE only ur opinion but not mine
Deathwing is the ultimate Curse of Rafaam counter.
Can already smell the new Deathwing Freeze Mages...
My favorite card, ever. It kills freeze mages and either deals a bunch of damage, or fucks up other decks' curves. Also, 0:04 Skip the Kripp.
+TheRockdoo Kripp is just noob who hate something that kill his control decks
+TheRockdoo It doesn't do shit against fast decks or our loved facehunter (which is still the most played deck). The idea behind it is nice, but it just does not fit in the current meta imo.
also in single player adventures ive never seen them play the curse. its op against them
+Panda Panda It synergises very well with flood zoo. Let's say that you're playing against a midrange pally and you play the curse. You either gain board control (if he plays the curse), or you get those extra damages to face that makes you win. But it could suck against secret paladin considering it doesn't matter if a 2-drop is played or not, usually.
+Panda Panda what? facehunter's not even the best face deck anymore.
How good is Curse of Rafaam?
Turns out is preetty bad ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
How good is Legend Stuff?
Turns out hes pretty much better then all the krips
+Kappa Kappa
+Kappa feelsbadman
I like the way your mic sounds Kripp. Feels like I'm sitting in a plane cabin and you're talking to me as the pilot. Feels professional :P
5:55 take that skippernio
Life achievement get here before skippernio my life is complete
+Tio Ragnaros yeah but Erik was first though
+Tio Ragnaros ahaha i was trying to do that but i refreshed at 8 o clock for 3 minutes straight, then the video appeared saying "uploaded 3 minutes ago" fk my life
+FistOfHatred really...it doesn't matter I just want to comment before skippernio
+Tio Ragnaros skippernio> skipperino
Thanks for the Q&A Kripp. This helped me win a ladder game yesterday. Got cursed on turns 2 and 4 and I would have discarded them immediately before watching your video.
I had an enemy with Malygos on board. Cursed and loathebed for legal
*lethal
+MrWaben
lol
Noice
+MrWaben That's illegal.
+MrWaben Cursed! is not affected by either player's Spell Damage, so cannot deal more than 2 damage.
Another edition of Kripp picked a card in arena and got value of it amd made a 15-30 min video about it. We luv u, kripp.
He didn't even pick it
3:42 Notice how Kripparrian swindles his way out of the situation in a genuine traitorous fashion.
you gotta love the 'undertaker' for the best summoning line ever. 'Bring out your dead' :D
You're new huh
+Billy Marshall for the tasty Monty Python reference ofc
+Billy Marshall that was the saying while plague ravaged the land. there would be a guy with a cartwheel and collect corpses from family members for a price (price because if they didn't do that they would get plagued too)
+Ralph Koolen I'm not dead yet!
+Ralph Koolen this is our town, scrub
Kripp your face is all colorful and vivid with the camera you have. It's neat
in RNCAST's defense, that was one sick rogue deck kripp was running
I put it into a funky deck with a lot of spells for my Warlock, and I didn't hate it, but the one thing I noticed for sure is that it's basically a free win against Freeze Mages. You'll almost always get them down to their ice block pop range, and once that happens, it's lights out.
I don't even really play Hearthstone, but I watch every single Kripp video anyway. I could literally listen to this man talk about calculus and it would still be interesting. His voice is like smooth butter.
one thing about curse of rafaam is that its quite poweful with loremaster cho. i dont remember how it came to be, but it ended up with curse of rafaam being in play with lorewalker cho. it counts as spell. so basically each hero lost 2 hp and 2 mana each turn, since it became a race for hitpoints. this was an interesting game to say the least.
guess the lorewalker came out of shredder or something...
10:07 in the facerino camerino *flies away*
very interesting insight!
murlocs are better than curse !
Should have called yourself MURLOCERINO KRIPPERINO
+Stir Fry shouldve called him MRGRRRLLLRRRino
+Murlerino Kripperino Of curse.
+Murlerino Kripperino I agree
it's good if you're significantly ahead on board. if your opponent wants to get control back he has to play on curve so he's going to take the extra damage. by playing that instead of a 2 drop you also play around board clears.
HOW GOOD IS KRIPP IN QUIPLASH???
Turns out he's preeeetty bad
ive been using this card in a face warlock deck. it's pretty cool since the deck is all about face damage and the curse messes up their mana curve as well. also, i basically never use it on turn 2/3 unless my hand is absolutely terrible, its mostly for the mid game when you already have some minions on the board.
you can use it on turn 3 to force enemy on 4 mana to waste 2. making you be 1st to cast 4 mana card.
Well this video also explained why the audio quality is so different from video to clips of the stream
Turn 4: Violet Teacher/Burly trogg
Turn 5: Burly trogg/Violet teacher +coin +curse of rafaam
turn 6: troggzor
unbeatable combo! pogChamp
+Baconomics101
Turn 2: Burgle
...
Turn 7: Prep, Twisting Nether
Maybe curse could work in some stange kind of mill warlock? It would be stange... but the same thing they said about patron warrior.
Hey Kripp, I just got the black knight and I was wondering if you could do a video on "How good is the Black Knight" and if I should keep him or dust him in order to get something like an ancient of lore or perhaps as the last push in dust in order to get a Slyvannas in the future.
Thank you if you read this Kripp and have a wonderful day.
Honestly it'd be interesting if this turned into a 3 mana card, but on the 'Cursed!' card, it reads 'Give Curse of Rafaam to your opponent'. This would not only allow it to be reused, but also allow it to be used as a proxy counter to decks that summon big minions (or at least penalize them for playing those big minions) as well as defeating freeze mages.
As far as damage goes it isn't efficient and since it only does face damage it wouldn't generate that much tempo, but it would function similarly to Headcrack as a situational source of consistent damage.
What do you think?
It's interesting in Zoo. I tried it with Stonesplitter Trogg, which is fine... And Zoo is capable of playing a bunch of hefty 1 drops and eggs and things to stay on the board and keep heaping on the damage. You can take ten damage by turn 6 if I can't do any other damage, but if I have charges and sticky shit and direct damage, that 10 damage counts for a whole hell of a lot.
Kripp's chair in skip the krips looks as if kripp had mullet hairstyle
Another video, another day closer to Afrorino.
The mic you are talking about, the SM7B, needs alot of gain to shine. Hook it up to a proper preamp and you've got the best broadcasting mic ever.
I think could be the start of affliction warlock being a thing in hearthstone
I love the tempo for it. If you play it on turn two most opponents will play it on turn 2 or 3.
Does anyone agree that even if they had played 2 drops instead they would have still lost because Kripp seemed to have better hands then his opponents in all the games?
+lambojim64 yeah, kripps argument was pretty much "I've never used this card, but in arena the warlocks i facerolled used it so it's bad."
+Zach Cooney No. His argument was: You lose tempo, due to lack of boardcontrol due to lack of minions played.
This card uses a punisher mechanic. The punisher mechanic usually suxx, because your opponent always can choose the worst (from your perspective) option in any given situation. Takin' 2 dmg to the face but gaining board is a good deal.
One thing you didn't mention is that you're actually giving your opponent a spell, that can be used t trigger things like violet teacher or flamewaker. Probably not a big deal, but it's something to consider.
what if "Cursed!" cost 1 additional mana to play (i.e. remove) each turn? that way it at least maintains its tempo cost the longer you hold it, so that if you spend a whole turn 2 to cast it, it'll cost them a whole turn to remove it whenever they do?
I also always play my curse of rafaam bluegill warrior warlock deck on ladder.
Combo curse with Loatheb in the late game to make people basically skip a turn or take damage sort of like hunter hero power clock?
Kripp, this mic probably requires phantom power
Wild microphone appears!
would be a cool card in a druid deck with the 4/4 2Spelldmg for everyone
it's basically the hunter hero power for warlock. Two damage to face for two mana
That microphone was like USE ME.
Curse of Rafaam reminds of a similar controversy in Magic the Gathering. Life gain is much reviled for exactly the same reason - it doesn't change the board state.
Somewhat ironically, life gain in Hearthstone is considered perfectly strong while pure player burn damage is considered weak.
+Lardo137 That might be because HS only has 30 health.
+Lardo137
Life gain in Hearthstone isn't considered strong at all. The only life gain cards that are played are either versatile with various extra effects (lay on hands, alexstrasza etc.), have good synergies (armor in warrior, ice block in mage, auchenai in priest etc.), meta-based (healbot is played most of the time 30 health isn't enough) or are decent on their own (tuskarr jouster). Reno turned out to be really good, but this is specifically because of all the aggro decks that run out of steam pretty fast and are fine-tuned to deal 40-50 damage within the first x turns of the game but don't pose much threat if the aggression is dealt with. Other healing cards are barely played even if their healing effect is OP (like healing wave etc.), they're considered decent but most of the time that's not enough to fit them into a deck.
+ArcanumVader Healing wave is not played just because control shaman is not viable right now, but if I want to play a control shaman I will run healing wave over healbot any day.
+Lardo137 Life gain in Hearthstone is strong only in two different scenarios :
1. Against some kind of really fast aggro deck (e.g. Face Hunter): in this case life gain on your side is considered strong but player burn damage on the opponent's side is also considered strong as it is a direct race.
2. As a control deck: in this case, every other deck is faster than yours, therefore the little time life gain can buy you may be game changing. Additionally, as a control deck you have fine-tuned means to regain board control, so losing it temporarily is no big problem.
In Magic, the second case does not hold as there are to many ways to win without having board control. The first case is true in Magic as well, an aggro deck has much more problems with a Siege Rhino than with a Tasigur (although both are a problem as they are excellent blockers).
I find it really good card at the start of the game... gives you free turns.
Such as, if you play your 3/2 imp turn one... Gives you board presence and more. Late game turn six is better also.
you got my Like when i saw the microphone being played at you.
the force is strong with this one
Curse is good depending on how it's used it can stop big minions being played and can help rush warlock cause if they clear that means they have to take an additional 2 dmg
i play one curse in my zoo deck right now, keep in mind i am a rank 13-14 player. But i saw it in a unique facelock deck and thought i would try it. i only ever play it on like turn 5 or 6 with a three or four drop. it destroys freeze mage and i have won a few games due to messing up the enemies.
What about a Loatheb + Curse of Rafaam combo, that would make the curse cost 7-mana to get rid of right?
i think the card is good in face warlock. the deck kinda works, mostly because dark peddler is such a strong card but curse is definitely an auto include in a face deck. i use voidcallers and doomguards as late game, rest is just pure aggro. also, i run wrathguards which have not been dissapointing
Currently trying to get this to work with Lorewalker Cho and Mana Wraith. Clog up their hand with a ton of shitty curse cards, every time they get played you double the number of cards.
I don't think my friend runs the card, but he did say that one thing you could do is play Lotheb then play that because then there should be no reason to waste 7 mana on the card.
Imo it should shuffle the card in the enemy deck and make the owner take 2 damage every 2-3 turns until they draw it, then it just fizzles and draws another card
Listening to Kripp talk about board state way back when.
Me today: what is this “board” you speak of and why is it important?
turns out its preeeeeetty situational
Kripp, whatever lightbulb is shining down on the top of your head needs to go; it's casting a sickly yellow color all over your face. Swap it out for a bulb with cleaner color (like a daylight or something).
I've played this card a lot in facelock. The card isn't optimal, but it's always fun fucking with someone's curve. Curse of Rafaam is good in early game for this reason, especially on turn 3 unless they have a good one drop. It would be viable if it did 3 damage maybe.
5:55 Skipperino Kripperino
the mic slowly creeping into to frame then hitting his chest, lolololol
Someday, Stax. Someday Hearthstone will have you.
Curse of Chofaam is a fun deck. I made it with troggzor and loatheb and went 60% winrate at rank 13
In my Defense: I Used Curse in Arena to activate my Flamewaker. I got Curse from Spellslinger :P
Hey Kripp, what do you use to show your deck in game?
OP in Miracle-Warlock
Don't know if it has been said, but Curse doesn't get affected by your spell damage neither. I tested. It is the same with the curse from the 7/4 for 4 (don't remember its name). And I think it is because they aren't called "spell".
Damn mill warlock with curse of rafaam loatheb and lorewalker super wombo combo
Krip showing off those relationship goals I have
I had one arena where I had 4 curse I think. Didn't go well. Figured id give it a try lol.
What if they gave the card the effect that it applies also when discarded? It might be viable then...
I never realised how pretty your eyes were Kripp
finally 1080P !
Curse of Rafaam + Loatheb combo!!!
Watch The Kripp 0:00 - 5:55 Watch The Game 5:55 - 17:19
Curse of Rafaam should deal 3 damage, then that would still be below typical mana-to-damage output, while still making it worth some loss of tempo to the Warlock
would it be OP if the damage was dealt at the end of your turn and whenever you'd play it it would return to your hand the turn after
If the curse card was even 1 more mana for 1 more damage, like pay 2 for opponent to pay 3 or take 3- it might’ve seen more play.
Curse of Rafaam is amazing if you go first and your opponent plays Millhouse Manastorm on Turn 4 so you can play double Curse of Rafaam on Turn 5 with a Loatheb to force your opponent to take an 8 WHOLE UNBLOCKABLE DAMAGE.
I picked 3 for an arena run because the other choices were horrible and by the third one I just thought "fuck it." It actually worked pretty well and was the main reason I won a couple of tight matches.
Rania is so cute with the microphone 14:15
I don't know how spell damage works if it even does or if you play it against counterspell lol but it isn't better than bluegill because you choose to get a 2/1 murloc or to give him a spell for 2 mana which he needs to get rid of
I feel like Curse wants to be in a mill deck. Add a card in their hand to make cards like Oracle better, gets stuck there because their hand is cluttered with cards they would rather play.
Problem is the likelihood of there ever being a Warlock mill deck of any worth is basically nill as long as their hero power draws cards.
thought the card was useless before, like coldlight oracle in non mill decks just advancing the game or losing tempo if the other person doesnt use it instantly, but the spell dmg thing is awesome i like this card now
Use the force Kriplo Ren
Would be interesting if the card instead read "you opponent takes fatigue damage". You could play a fatigue warlock or something, maybe?
So if your opponent has Malygos out and you play Curse of Rafaam+Loatheb, you can essentially deal 7 damage and lock up their entire turn unless they want to take 7 damage again next turn?
New card does 10 damage to face at 2 cost. Kripp: not value because not a minion.
curse + Cho = perfect combo
TURNS OUT TO BE PREEEEEEEEETY GOOOOD
It's a card that could be great in a mill Warlock. Warlock would need some more mill tools to do it well though.
Next vid : How good is Rafaam?
Turns out its PRETTY GUUD
The Curse's main advantage over Bluegill is that it doesn't get taken out by the same cards that Bluegill does, like taunts or any sort of AoE. Bluegill's main advantages over the Curse is that it can be used against creatures and that it's a Murloc. Buffs aside, the idea of a body doesn't really apply here. A Curse in their hand in a continual source of damage until they get rid of it, just like a minion.
It's actually closer to the Hunter hero power than Bluegill Warrior in a lot of ways.
I wonder If this would be cool with lorewalker cho! because u would get more and more curses :P
so you have an aunt and 3 other minions and to Mana crystals left over from playing the taunt would you or would you not curse of rafaam on that turn
Ok so I know it's not so grate. I have been experimenting with Lore Walker Cho and this card. So the opponent gets 2 almost useless cards in hand and one deals 2 damage if he does not get rid of it. Problem is when they cast the 2 damage dealing one at me and I cast it back it does not deal damage to them.
Does anyone know what happeneds if (somehow like spellslinger?) you counterspell the Cursed! card?
It evaporates into the void
Skipperrino Kripperrino!!
Should I craft two twilight guardians to play malylock and most dragon decks or save up for thalnos to add to my freeze mage and rogue decks?
Depends on how much you like playing freeze mage and rogue decks vs how much you wanna play malylock and most dragon decks. I would probably prefer dragon decks, and it's also only half the dust, but that's because I'd rather play these decks.
+Riven Is My Waifu its up to you :)