I've had this case for 3 years and I love it. Got a 360 rad sitting at the top insider the case with the fans sitting ontop pulling air in. Removed the plastic that covered the front top fan while having the mesh covering the other two and half og the third. Doesn't really pull that much dust in and compared to an open case it's practically nothing. Only issue I have is that it's heavy.
I assume you mean you have the Panzer Max as the Max-G is only a year old. Basically the same case but yours was probably less expensive and came with fans installed.
@@ElevatedSystems I have the Cougar Panzer Max-G Full Tower PC Case for a few years now. thinking of getting the RGB version now for my next build. ( I love the handles ) for moving. I love the styles of many of the new glass cases on the market, but not practical for me.
i'm heading into my first build and i gotta say i appreciate this video. i was considering this case but after your review i see that i gotta keep browsing. thanks for the content
Thank you, I just saw the case on the Cougar website, and it was love at first sight. But looking at your review now, in more detail, I find aspects and design decisions that I don't like. Greetings from Argentina.
@@patorecchi8846 somos campeones de América!!! Lamentablemente también somos pobres, así que todavía no compré el gabinete que quiero, sigo con un Cooler Master más chico...
2 years later and this video spared me a headache! Thank you! It would have been awesome to see a company representative try to defend the design flaws!
I have this case currently, and I have some interesting words to describe some of the screw placements. I made it work, but my knuckles show the battle that occurred. Lots of neat features, but just a lot of “why would you do that? Why would you do ANY of that?” moments 😝
I got the combo case with Cougar Helor 360. Struggling to get the radiator in on the underside of the top panel. I would love to know if that top panel can be removed and replaced with the radiator attached. Already removed motherboard and dvd drive bay.
So having the same case, I randomly thought to re-read the manual. Turns out that we both were mounting the AIO and the fans the wrong way. We are suppose to put the fans on the outside, right beside the mesh and the radiator is suppose to be where we put the fans. Cougar wasn't lying when they said it can hold a 360 AIO.
Well, you convinced me to get one, it won't be an issue for my use and components. And I like the look and the case. But I do understand your comments and feelings, I just won't have those issues even though I have both CPU air coolers and water if desired. Going with fans this time, but I do have options if I ever needed to unbox the radiators. Good review!
you deserve more subs for your none bias review, I was about to take this one and saw your review! gonna install LCS but it seems that my project is not possible with this case.
What type of screws were you able to use to mount the fans to the Top of the tower? I purchased Cougar LED fans, and the screws it came with, and the screws that came with the case just fall straight through the Slots for the fans. The 120MM fan screw holes are MUCH larger than the 140MM screw holes for the top of the case.
Thank you! I am planning out a rather pricey build, focused on a water cooled gaming/content creation machine and I thought that this case might have been what I was looking for. However, this is not the droid I'm looking for and I would not have known that without your review. Thanks again!
Its a very detailed review in excellent video-audio quality, thank you very much, ill buy it, its worth every dollar imo. It has everything i need, i consider buying EVO version.
I like the looks of this case and it is getting harder to find cases with at least two 5 1/4 external drive bays. The Phanteck Enthoo Primo would be my prefect case if it was maybe 2-inches shorter with maybe 3 or 4 external bays. Would you have a suggestion of something in-between?
@@macole4958 Then if you need the internal drive space the Panzer Max-G will work good for you. Other options you may want to look at are maybe the Fractal Design Focus G or the Corsair Carbide 100R. Less flashy but solid cases.
@@ElevatedSystems yep 2x 120mm on front and 1x 120mm on back! I noticed that this particular case has different variations on the top ceiling. Maybe thats why yours wont fit
I bought the most expensive tower of this kind on new egg (over $300 Canadian) and it did not come with any front fans which was very disappointing to say the least.
Your max-g case review is much appreciated, what is your opinion of the panzer evo rgb case, it seems to be the updated version of the max g with features like the usb type-C in the front panel interface and no flimsy mesh panels on the front or top, plus 4 rgb fans adding some value. Also how would you compare the evo rgb case to the thermaltake view 71 rgb case, i can't decide between the two for my very first all around build that i will keep for probably ever. Thanks in advance.
Of the two the Thermaltake will provide much better ventilation as the Panzer Evo is a purely show case with almost no ventilation. If you go with the thermaltake and are using a liquid AIO it will perform best if you install the radiator on the front of the case pulling air in, as if you put it on the top the tempered glass top panel will reflect the hot air back into the radiator. However, if you are using an E-ATX motherboard in the View 71 I think I remember there being some issues with the Mobo covering the cable pass-throughs to a point where they are not usable. You may also want to look at the Lian Li PC-011 XL which has a similar look to the 2 cases you are looking at with better thermal performance and more build room and options.
This review saved my ass. I am building 10 duplicate systems and, as some here may agree, the case is sometimes the item which takes the longest to pull the trigger on. I found this case late last night and thought maybe my search was over... Nope! This review kept me from making a terrible and costly mistake. While it is visibly shown, I think it should be mentioned that the 5.25 drive bays must be removed to fit 3 fans in front or in the inside top. These builds will be in a training area and I don't want external blu ray burners to "walk away". Too bad, nice looking sturdy looking case, and reasonably priced. BTW, no USB C on front panel, WTF? My search continues....
Check out the Phanteks Enthoo Pro TG. I'm not sure if there's enough fan configuration for you, but it has storage for days. Finding a case with a 5.25" bay and a Front Panel USB-C may be the biggest challenge.
Thank you very much for your review. You saved me from a big headache. I was about to order this case for my new build. Any other choices you can recommend? I'm looking for a full tower.
I have one and dislike when built it, only pick it if you choose design over function, I put HDD on its back on crystal it's shown good result around 38C with 3 front fan case. now I love it because it's cool!
Great review. I bought the case for my son's computer last christmas(about 18months now). I had issues with the non working fan speed controller. I tried numerous times to contact Cougar - they Never answered me...ever. Although Newegg was awesome with the RMA process. It's a monster case and you're right, it's a bit big for just a gamer system case - it looks good and does spaciously hold a good gaming system. But would I replace it - No. For reasons you said and just poor(non existent) customer service. There are tons of great cases on the market these days customers don't need to deal with companies like Cougar.(I've watched plenty of cougar product reviews and they are shaping up to be a not so customer oriented company) just my 2cents. Cheers..again, great video
I love the look of this case, but I had the exact same problems... The fans at the top, towards the back, will always hit the motherboard I/O shield, and the screw holes on front will never fit anything I put in it. I have to leave things partially screwed. And the piece of removable plastic at the top serves literally no purpose. For a case this huge, you would think you could fit anything in it... but surprise surprise. I wouldn't recommend this case.
I really wish they would revamp this model, it has basically everything I'm looking for except the design choices are making me second guess picking this up. I need room for the ODD but also need room for liquid cooling. With some modding it could potentially work but I don't want to spend 200 on a case that I then have to cut into. It seems liquid cooling would either get in the way of the ODD or the motherboard, that's not taking into consideration the rest of the components. With a radiator on the back, extra fans could go on top but you can really only utalize 2 up there. If I end up deciding not to go with liquid cooling this case could potentially work out great.
Thanks for reviewing this case as honest as you can, Bro. I Own A cougar panzer Max not A Max G. You can make a Perfect Air Cooled Beast with this case with Some Badass Noctua Chromax Fans. Liquid Cooling However? Very Tricky...HEAVY modifications needs to be done, Like Installing The 3 Fan Radiator OUTSIDE of the Front Panel just to make to make room for the Extra Fans and Reservoir inside the case(Which I'm Planning to do in the Future). It's a neat looking case, But It does have a lot of flaws due To marketing hype.
That's the whole point of the clearance between the case and the mesh on the front: So you can put the radiator (or fans) outside, and the fans (or radiator) inside. I've only got a two-fan radiator because I wanted an optical drive, and the radiator is between the case and the mesh, with the fans inside the case, and it works perfectly, and still gives tons of room on the inside for the reservoir.
This case is great. Been thru 2 builds with it. Most of what is mentioned as "issues" are more like minor inconveniences. I mounted the 120mm fan in back on the outside (avoids any MB confrontation) and got an extension cable to get connected to my Corsair Commander in the back. I removed the front air deflector and the PSU shroud. Neither is needed. I managed to get an Asus Thor 1200w Plat in there, had to remove the floor fan though. No biggie. I have a Corsair H115i-Pro up front inside with 4 140mm fans in push/pull config. 2 mounted outside and 2 mounted to the AIO inside. No biggie. 2 140mm up top under the mesh panel. There is so much air flowing thru there it isn't funny. As for the broken pin on the front panel, ok that suks, My way to fix that is to get another case, swap the panels and RMA it back. Inconvenient? Yeah. But you end up with what you want. Nobody gets everything without a little effort. Sometimes you have to drill a hole or file an edge down or pinch a flap of metal out of the way. This case is soon to hold an MSI Meg Ace-7950X3D-64GB Corsair DDR5. Oh, I just added a PNY RTX 4080 Super Verto OC. It came to within 1.25 inches of the radiator fan. BUT, it fit damn it. Yeah. Love this case.
Not a major issue for me since I am not using water coolant unit at all. but I do really want a big full tower ATX case with handle. This is the only one I can find with a very reasonable price. I might give a a try. I use to have a big full tower ATX PC case, Cooler Master Storm Stryker. It is not available any more. What is your new case? Thanks
I actually wanted to buy the Cougar Panzer Max but settled on the Cooler Master Mastercase Pro 5. If upgrading wasn't an issue I'd have gone for the Panzer.
Excelent video ! , What do you think about the ASUS TUF Gaming GT501? I am only concerned with the front cover which is semi closed. does not obstruct the air intake? it only has 2 side spaces. I plan to install a 280mm aio on the top one.
That little bit of metal that's right beside the front mounted radiator, aka the air guide. Can that be removed if i wanted to do a push-pull set up for my AIO?
I demonstrated that at 7:00 You can only install the rad fans above the rad on the top of the case but then the 3rd fan is almost completely blocked by the plastic panel.
@@ElevatedSystems Yes that's what i referred to. I thought it was weird that it is not actualy room for both rad and fans on the inside, even tho the official images from Cougar shows a rad with fans on the inside... Sorry if i formulated that poorly. Are you sure the rad is not able to be mounted closer to the glass panel, so that the fan hangs down in front of the MB? In my Fractal Design Define S2, the rad is mounted further away from the MB wall, compared to the glass panel.
@@NORxDRONExAT01 I'm not 100% sure as it's been over a year but if I remember correctly the only place the holes lined up for the rad was where I mounted it. I think the holes towards the glass were for 140mm fans.
That could be right, the steel was thinner than typical for cases in this price point. Although, that might be the weight of the Max version, the Max-G may be slightly heavier due to the tempered glass side panel.
The panzer max and the Max-G are exactly the same case with the exception of the full tempered glass side panel on the Max-G. I would recommend the Panzer Max over the Max-G just based on the lower price, unless you just really want the glass side panel.
I really like mine, but one of the two USB 3.0 ports never worked. By the way, I had all the fans included, and I put a 360mm rad on top, with the fans outside of the case, right under the top panel. I guess only slim fans would fit over the motherboard. I have the Max, not G.
It sounds like Cougar is a bit out of their league with this one. If those issues, which could have been avoided with a little more thought to the design, weren't present, this would be a case easily worth the asking price. As it is, there are just too many other cases in that price range with more features and without those design flaws.
I wonder if you could help. I bought this for my first build as, much like you, couldn't find any robust reviews which highlight what you have. I have recently bought a GPU which doesn't seem to fit, how would you best solve this problem, or alternatively (as mines also came with a damaged panel) could you recommend an alternative case.
Im trying to mount my radiator to the top of the case but I cant seem to figure out how to mount it. Its a 240mm corsair h100i l. Im just confused and dont see how the screws fit in the holes.
Elevated Systems im trying to do both rad and fans on the inside. But the top Of my panzer max case isnt like the one in the video its just the mesh with a bunch of holes and whenever I line up the rad i dont see how its supposed to screw into the top the holes are to big for the screws.
Hey, how do you remove the outermost panels on this beast, I need to get into it to remove some busted fans, and I can't figure out how to open the outer fins to get to the square interior.
Just looked at their site today and they have updated it to show that this case (of the 4 different versions) is the ONLY one that doesn't come with the front fans. Very odd that they wouldn't include it... especially since this feels like a higher model than just the Max. Basically only the side panel is different.
A bit of a warning it also doesnt support top 360mm AIO as the 3rd fan is covered by plastic and not mesh, also it does not support 140 or 120mm fan at the bottom if your PSU is larger. The design of this case is baffling.
The glass panel is different in my case. its more integrated with a push latch like the back pannel. How is this possible? Also, my case is more strudy. I tried the same movement before installing mb and didn't flex at all. I think there are different versions.
Only 2 3.5" drive trays? And this is a full tower? What an efficient use of space! (I'm being sarcastic) You'd think there'd be a whole lot more accommodations for storage devices. Glad I watched your video! I'll pass on this one. Need at least 8 drive bays for 3.5". Anyone have any suggestions?
No. I wouldn't have had a justification to return it if it arrived intact and as described. In all fairness this case would have fit my intended build perfectly had it included the fans and not been broken. I ended up building in the Lian Li Lancool 2. ruclips.net/video/Sa9uuZmzqdY/видео.html
i'm not tha biggest fan of Tempered Glass but tha case still sells me because of tha 5.25 bays! i still use them because it's my only source of playin' Blu Ray discs and i'm not a AIO person either
I've been shopping at newegg and was curious about this case. It was even said in their description that it had one fan, so that didn't surprise me that it was a negative here I am really curious as to how big of a power supply that thing can fit. I've found a nice 1000w for the RTX 3080 since it is super power hungry but I would like a big case with cable management. Does anyone have recommendations?
Moof! Frankly, I like to pick and install my own fans so that is not a dealbuster, it would B better if they had a fan-delete option at point of purchase. If they spent an X-Tra $25 on quality instead of that piece of glass it would be better still. Overall I am happy with mine and those handles are AWESOME for moving it around. Thanx ES!
Also ein optisch perfektes Gehäuse mit unzähligen Mängeln. Ich finds schon traurig, dass man trotz der Größe keinen Festplattenkäfig hat, sondern die Festplatten (nur 2...) ganz schäbig ungekühlt hinters Mainboard schraubt.
Yeah top and front space for cases is dissapointment, i was at the point of disassembly and cutting holes on top frame the way it shown in their promo materials, but i found out that front should be aligned by middle fan slot, then you will be able to screw in 8 screws into frame, and remaining 4 will get from fan to radiator directly, and to compensate lack of frame between fan and radiator i used thin silicone layer in between. 8 screws enought to keep radiator. What i did not like is that fans on front are not centered, they are shifted to side a little, my perfectionalist self is upset by that. I got original model with metal panels, want to replace it with latest revision with glass, but i dont like holes in it - its source of noise and dust i like more tight frame of origina just wante to have bigger window inside. also new revision has glass on top and front and i also dont like glass there with same issues, i just want glass on 1 side... and the problem is that for some reason they got glass with same holes on other side where you can see ugly cable managment, plue because glass is flat it does not have this bumpy extra space behind it to fit in fat cables. It was 4th revision of case, which actually had 1 type C now, but it still not perfect. I really love this case, but i wish them do a new revision with modular options and all problems fixed. There is no case like this in market and i really wish it to be perfect. I dont know how can we able to influence Cougar and make them see our feedback and fix everything, but it needs to be done, i want 5th revision to make a perfect case! What needs to be done is -left pannel with shape and even sliding mechanism of V1, but with curved tampered glass attached to thinner metal frame to make window bigger but still keep tightness of V1. Right side should be metal, no windows. Top pannel should be like V1 but full mesh, no solid plastic, front pannel also should be full mesh, this time with no windows for 5.25, just a one solid mesh. Front frame should be redesigned with 12cm and 14 cm holes in mind but without such a big space between them or there should be modular swapable frame for 14 and 12 cm to perfectly match both. Inner shell for power case should have modular window at side of power supple and also on top of power supply which may be equipped with RGB fan, also these widnows should have detachable meshes for dust. Front part of this shell should be shorter by 3 cm to support configuration with both radiator and fans attached behind frame inside case. Mechanism of fixing this shell should not require to detach video card just to open it and should not rely on screw to hold it. Upper frame should have holes identical to new and fixed front frame, so you can set up fans bellow radiator, front should also be tweaked to actually make some radiators like MSI coreqliquid 360 fit in with tubes both directed to front and back both on upper and inner side. Reobus aka fan speed controller should be changed to analogue thin slider, with MB position and should have "incoming" port to get fan control from motherboard and to let switch between manual overrider and automatic motherboard control, with return channel to let motherboard know speed even in manual override mode. 4 pins pwm should be default option with 3 pin as fallback to backwards compatibility. Also all rubber parts should be replaced with black silicone because rubber decays fast. And all places where front, upper, left and right pannels supposed to touch case should have silicone layer to cover all gaps between case and these pannels and make them sit supper tight. All plastic locks should re replaced with metallic or better to magnetic. Lower dust filter should be made same way is in older cases of Cougat where its inside some rails and cas has hole bahind where you can detach this filter without moving case. there should be modules to replace 2 x 2.5 ssd holders by 1x HDD 3.5 holders. case have enought space to support it. In modern NVMe SSD era i would better use 2.5 taken space with extra 2 HDDs 3.5 with 12-16 TB of space. instead of useless 2.5 Also space between PSU and front fans actually could be used as extra bay for 3.5 HDDs and i wish there be a holder next to fan space to be able to put it 3-4 hdds under shell. There needs to be a detachable plastic cover on shell to hide wiress on a low of motherboard. Also shell should have hole and built in vide card holder. One more thing i really wish this case to had - is support for vertical video card alignment with ability to move it so far from pci EXPRESS SLOTS SO YOU CAN FIT some audio cards and other PCIE devices behind card, with PCIE 4 or 5 cable and possibly modular back panel. Also back panels for each pcie slot should have dust filter. Back fan should not be aligned to same level as motherboard panel, it should have sub-fram to let fan be put inside, because it covers motherboard RGB logos they way it is now, so it should be shifted behind motherboard deeper 2-3 cm. Holes for cables should be wider and there should be 4 vertical instead of 3. USB 3.0 cable should be thinner and more flexible, especially connector, its pain in *** to attach and get it outside. All panel cables should de modular and detachable, in so tired to hide unused stuff like fan cables. Rgb controller should support regular ARGB and 4 pins ports or should at lest has connecters from cougars ports to regular argb+4pin. case should have all 8 fan slots equipped with their latest rgb fans. Motherboard frame should be no so thin and screw holes should be detachable with solid metal, because current one has literally no limit of how hard you can screw them, them are bending and you can bend motherboard and have problems with PCIE alignment. This is really serious issue. Back panel of motherboard need like one extra mm to tie in well, because now its getting bend a little. Air routing panel should be 2-3 cm shorter to support radiator+fans inside config. Also i forgot to mention that upper panel should support 3x14cm fans config. Holes for fans and argb connectors of fans should be 2-3 mm wider. Maybe front, and upper panels should come packed with glass and mesh option so you can choose. But glass should not be designed like this, it should be inside metal frame that will use mesh connectors and upper and lower part of frame should have few CM meshes with detachable dust filters. and tight connection of frame with case. so the air could flow only through these dust filters. Oh and they should not forget to center fan frames on front and top to make them look perfectly symmetric. Im pretty sure i forgot something, but thats all the problems and and things i with to improve for 5th revision that i can remember now. I really hope cougar would not stop production of this case and will improve it with new revision. i would pay extra 50-100 bucks if they will do everything i listed above i just want ultimate perfected edition of this case.
All Cougar Panzer line is garbage. I have the Panzer-G and im tired of modifying it to get basic things like mount a 240 on front and 360 on top. Also the gap between top coolers and motherboard is sick. The worst is the tempered glass of my model; had to separate them 1/2 inch with WC hoses (like expanded the glass support) in order to get a decent air flow. Make a lot more mods and im getting tired. It was a great review and i send you a hug from Argentina (people here greet each other like this)
You are right the Panzer Max is a good case at it's price point. My overall conclusion is that the Max-G isn't worth the price hike, just get the Max unless you really want the full glass side panel. Also, this isn't Theee Dak is it? Cause I'm literally watching you play Minnesota at this very moment 🤔
i have this case and i have instaling acces at the top 3 fan water cooling pure loop 360mm be quiet!!!! dont say you cant doit this. this case cugarPanzer Max-G is amazing!!!!!! i have buy 160 euro and is awesome!!!!!!!
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I've had this case for 3 years and I love it. Got a 360 rad sitting at the top insider the case with the fans sitting ontop pulling air in. Removed the plastic that covered the front top fan while having the mesh covering the other two and half og the third. Doesn't really pull that much dust in and compared to an open case it's practically nothing. Only issue I have is that it's heavy.
I assume you mean you have the Panzer Max as the Max-G is only a year old. Basically the same case but yours was probably less expensive and came with fans installed.
@@ElevatedSystems you are correct. Must have missed the fact that it says Max-G.
@@ElevatedSystems I have the Cougar Panzer Max-G Full Tower PC Case for a few years now. thinking of getting the RGB version now for my next build. ( I love the handles ) for moving. I love the styles of many of the new glass cases on the market, but not practical for me.
i'm heading into my first build and i gotta say i appreciate this video. i was considering this case but after your review i see that i gotta keep browsing. thanks for the content
Thank you, I just saw the case on the Cougar website, and it was love at first sight. But looking at your review now, in more detail, I find aspects and design decisions that I don't like. Greetings from Argentina.
Glad I could help, check out the Lian Li Lancool II or the Fractal Design Meshify S2 as good alternatives.
@@ElevatedSystems I was about to buy Panzer Max , i think Max and Max G are similar , may be i may take Cooler master H500P Mesh
I agree with this mate, same thing!
Ola que ase? Ganamo la copa america o que ase? Que gabinete te compraste al final, locura?
@@patorecchi8846 somos campeones de América!!! Lamentablemente también somos pobres, así que todavía no compré el gabinete que quiero, sigo con un Cooler Master más chico...
I may not recommend the case depending on the person though, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY ABSOLUTELY RECOMMEND THIS RUclipsR !!
I got this case for 150.00 total. Myne came pristine with no issues. Came from a Haf-x full tower. I like the case.
I got one too, I'm happy with it.
Earned my sub. Need more unbiased reviews like this these days, you helped me out a lot.
2 years later and this video spared me a headache! Thank you! It would have been awesome to see a company representative try to defend the design flaws!
Does it have the pc parts in it?
I was just about to buy this case for my 360 top rad, glad to watch this first, thanks man 😌
Check out the Phanteks Eclipse P500A. That is the case I think I may move my edit workstation into.
Legit, no BS review. Thanks!
I have this case currently, and I have some interesting words to describe some of the screw placements. I made it work, but my knuckles show the battle that occurred. Lots of neat features, but just a lot of “why would you do that? Why would you do ANY of that?” moments 😝
excellent review thank you , im using this case for my second personal build , i needed this info!
Thanks for the review was one of the only ones I could find with such detail.
You're welcome. Not being able to find a good review was why I decided to do the review.
I got the combo case with Cougar Helor 360. Struggling to get the radiator in on the underside of the top panel. I would love to know if that top panel can be removed and replaced with the radiator attached. Already removed motherboard and dvd drive bay.
So having the same case, I randomly thought to re-read the manual. Turns out that we both were mounting the AIO and the fans the wrong way. We are suppose to put the fans on the outside, right beside the mesh and the radiator is suppose to be where we put the fans. Cougar wasn't lying when they said it can hold a 360 AIO.
Does this apply to front mounting the radiator also? Or just the top-mount.
@perfectshave85 It applies to both top and front. The fans are also going to be your guide for how to place the radiator.
Well, you convinced me to get one, it won't be an issue for my use and components. And I like the look and the case. But I do understand your comments and feelings, I just won't have those issues even though I have both CPU air coolers and water if desired. Going with fans this time, but I do have options if I ever needed to unbox the radiators. Good review!
you deserve more subs for your none bias review, I was about to take this one and saw your review! gonna install LCS but it seems that my project is not possible with this case.
What type of screws were you able to use to mount the fans to the Top of the tower?
I purchased Cougar LED fans, and the screws it came with, and the screws that came with the case just fall straight through the Slots for the fans.
The 120MM fan screw holes are MUCH larger than the 140MM screw holes for the top of the case.
I'm pretty sure I just used standard PC case fan screws. If not I would have cemented on it. www.newegg.com/startech-fanscrew-black/p/N82E16811993009
Thank you! I am planning out a rather pricey build, focused on a water cooled gaming/content creation machine and I thought that this case might have been what I was looking for. However, this is not the droid I'm looking for and I would not have known that without your review. Thanks again!
Glad I could help.
Its a very detailed review in excellent video-audio quality, thank you very much, ill buy it, its worth every dollar imo. It has everything i need, i consider buying EVO version.
Glad I could help.
I like the looks of this case and it is getting harder to find cases with at least two 5 1/4 external drive bays. The Phanteck Enthoo Primo would be my prefect case if it was maybe 2-inches shorter with maybe 3 or 4 external bays. Would you have a suggestion of something in-between?
What type of cooling are you planing on using?
@@ElevatedSystemsI am planning on air cooling using my current beQuiet DarkPro 3.
@@macole4958 Then if you need the internal drive space the Panzer Max-G will work good for you. Other options you may want to look at are maybe the Fractal Design Focus G or the Corsair Carbide 100R. Less flashy but solid cases.
@@ElevatedSystems Thanks for the advice, appreciate it.
Nice review! Thanks for making this video!
Thank you, I was about to purchase it but the radiator problems you mentioned made me change my mind.
installed kraken x72 360mm radiator on this case. worked perfectly ;)
Good to hear. Did yours come with the preinstalled fans?
@@ElevatedSystems yep 2x 120mm on front and 1x 120mm on back! I noticed that this particular case has different variations on the top ceiling. Maybe thats why yours wont fit
I bought the most expensive tower of this kind on new egg (over $300 Canadian) and it did not come with any front fans which was very disappointing to say the least.
This Case is double the price of the Max here on Amazon in the Far East. So few Nice cases with place/s for Blu-Ray Drive etc.
Your max-g case review is much appreciated, what is your opinion of the panzer evo rgb case, it seems to be the updated version of the max g with features like the usb type-C in the front panel interface and no flimsy mesh panels on the front or top, plus 4 rgb fans adding some value. Also how would you compare the evo rgb case to the thermaltake view 71 rgb case, i can't decide between the two for my very first all around build that i will keep for probably ever.
Thanks in advance.
Of the two the Thermaltake will provide much better ventilation as the Panzer Evo is a purely show case with almost no ventilation. If you go with the thermaltake and are using a liquid AIO it will perform best if you install the radiator on the front of the case pulling air in, as if you put it on the top the tempered glass top panel will reflect the hot air back into the radiator. However, if you are using an E-ATX motherboard in the View 71 I think I remember there being some issues with the Mobo covering the cable pass-throughs to a point where they are not usable. You may also want to look at the Lian Li PC-011 XL which has a similar look to the 2 cases you are looking at with better thermal performance and more build room and options.
This review saved my ass. I am building 10 duplicate systems and, as some here may agree, the case is sometimes the item which takes the longest to pull the trigger on. I found this case late last night and thought maybe my search was over... Nope! This review kept me from making a terrible and costly mistake. While it is visibly shown, I think it should be mentioned that the 5.25 drive bays must be removed to fit 3 fans in front or in the inside top. These builds will be in a training area and I don't want external blu ray burners to "walk away". Too bad, nice looking sturdy looking case, and reasonably priced. BTW, no USB C on front panel, WTF? My search continues....
Check out the Phanteks Enthoo Pro TG. I'm not sure if there's enough fan configuration for you, but it has storage for days. Finding a case with a 5.25" bay and a Front Panel USB-C may be the biggest challenge.
Thank you very much for your review. You saved me from a big headache. I was about to order this case for my new build. Any other choices you can recommend? I'm looking for a full tower.
Take a look at the Fractal Design Define series, the Corsair Carbide or Obsidian Series, or the Phanteks Enthoo Pro series of Cases.
thank u bro i was about to buy this one , this video helped me a lot !
Thorough, organized and well presented. Thank-you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing video the 24 dislikes were probably people with buyers remorse
Cougar fanbois ;D
Very informative video, thanks for uploading!
You're welcome, Thanks for watching.
@@ElevatedSystems Eres un super gringo¡¡. Estamos orgullosos de ti. Sigue asi¡¡.
Straight forward and to the point. Nice review. Where did you get the case?
Thanks. I got the case from Newegg. Luckily it came with their free 30 day return.
I have one and dislike when built it, only pick it if you choose design over function, I put HDD on its back on crystal it's shown good result around 38C with 3 front fan case.
now I love it because it's cool!
Great review. I bought the case for my son's computer last christmas(about 18months now). I had issues with the non working fan speed controller. I tried numerous times to contact Cougar - they Never answered me...ever. Although Newegg was awesome with the RMA process. It's a monster case and you're right, it's a bit big for just a gamer system case - it looks good and does spaciously hold a good gaming system. But would I replace it - No. For reasons you said and just poor(non existent) customer service. There are tons of great cases on the market these days customers don't need to deal with companies like Cougar.(I've watched plenty of cougar product reviews and they are shaping up to be a not so customer oriented company) just my 2cents.
Cheers..again, great video
They don't seem to care, luckily the retailers (newegg) seem to.
I love the look of this case, but I had the exact same problems...
The fans at the top, towards the back, will always hit the motherboard I/O shield, and the screw holes on front will never fit anything I put in it. I have to leave things partially screwed.
And the piece of removable plastic at the top serves literally no purpose.
For a case this huge, you would think you could fit anything in it... but surprise surprise.
I wouldn't recommend this case.
Your should change your name to "Review Master." Well done and a lot of information to take in but it's very helpful.
That’s a shame, great looking case, thanks for the review.
I really wish they would revamp this model, it has basically everything I'm looking for except the design choices are making me second guess picking this up. I need room for the ODD but also need room for liquid cooling. With some modding it could potentially work but I don't want to spend 200 on a case that I then have to cut into. It seems liquid cooling would either get in the way of the ODD or the motherboard, that's not taking into consideration the rest of the components. With a radiator on the back, extra fans could go on top but you can really only utalize 2 up there. If I end up deciding not to go with liquid cooling this case could potentially work out great.
Good review👍
Thanks, hope it helped.
Thanks for reviewing this case as honest as you can, Bro. I Own A cougar panzer Max not A Max G. You can make a Perfect Air Cooled Beast with this case with Some Badass Noctua Chromax Fans. Liquid Cooling However? Very Tricky...HEAVY modifications needs to be done, Like Installing The 3 Fan Radiator OUTSIDE of the Front Panel just to make to make room for the Extra Fans and Reservoir inside the case(Which I'm Planning to do in the Future). It's a neat looking case, But It does have a lot of flaws due To marketing hype.
That's the whole point of the clearance between the case and the mesh on the front: So you can put the radiator (or fans) outside, and the fans (or radiator) inside. I've only got a two-fan radiator because I wanted an optical drive, and the radiator is between the case and the mesh, with the fans inside the case, and it works perfectly, and still gives tons of room on the inside for the reservoir.
This case is great. Been thru 2 builds with it. Most of what is mentioned as "issues" are more like minor inconveniences. I mounted the 120mm fan in back on the outside (avoids any MB confrontation) and got an extension cable to get connected to my Corsair Commander in the back. I removed the front air deflector and the PSU shroud. Neither is needed. I managed to get an Asus Thor 1200w Plat in there, had to remove the floor fan though. No biggie. I have a Corsair H115i-Pro up front inside with 4 140mm fans in push/pull config. 2 mounted outside and 2 mounted to the AIO inside. No biggie. 2 140mm up top under the mesh panel. There is so much air flowing thru there it isn't funny. As for the broken pin on the front panel, ok that suks, My way to fix that is to get another case, swap the panels and RMA it back. Inconvenient? Yeah. But you end up with what you want. Nobody gets everything without a little effort. Sometimes you have to drill a hole or file an edge down or pinch a flap of metal out of the way. This case is soon to hold an MSI Meg Ace-7950X3D-64GB Corsair DDR5. Oh, I just added a PNY RTX 4080 Super Verto OC. It came to within 1.25 inches of the radiator fan. BUT, it fit damn it. Yeah. Love this case.
Not a major issue for me since I am not using water coolant unit at all. but I do really want a big full tower ATX case with handle. This is the only one I can find with a very reasonable price. I might give a a try. I use to have a big full tower ATX PC case, Cooler Master Storm Stryker. It is not available any more. What is your new case? Thanks
Totally full review. Thanks!
You're welcome.
For above. How many inches of cooler should we put? Sorry, my English is a bit bad, I hope you understand.
I actually wanted to buy the Cougar Panzer Max but settled on the Cooler Master Mastercase Pro 5. If upgrading wasn't an issue I'd have gone for the Panzer.
What features led you to selecting the Mastercase 5 Pro, and would you recommend it to anyone looking at the Panzer Max-G?
ur a god, i had this in my cart all day. saved me a headache
Glad I could help.
Please tell me you heard back from them 😭😭😭 this is the only big case with handles and drive bays 😭😭😭
Excelent video ! , What do you think about the ASUS TUF Gaming GT501? I am only concerned with the front cover which is semi closed. does not obstruct the air intake? it only has 2 side spaces. I plan to install a 280mm aio on the top one.
That little bit of metal that's right beside the front mounted radiator, aka the air guide.
Can that be removed if i wanted to do a push-pull set up for my AIO?
Yes it can.
@@ElevatedSystems Sweet, and thanks for replying.
Just wanted to ask cause.... well, PushPull setups are quite thick.
How come you didnt manage to install a 360 rad in top with fans, but the official images shows one installed?
I demonstrated that at 7:00 You can only install the rad fans above the rad on the top of the case but then the 3rd fan is almost completely blocked by the plastic panel.
@@ElevatedSystems Yes that's what i referred to. I thought it was weird that it is not actualy room for both rad and fans on the inside, even tho the official images from Cougar shows a rad with fans on the inside... Sorry if i formulated that poorly.
Are you sure the rad is not able to be mounted closer to the glass panel, so that the fan hangs down in front of the MB? In my Fractal Design Define S2, the rad is mounted further away from the MB wall, compared to the glass panel.
@@NORxDRONExAT01 I'm not 100% sure as it's been over a year but if I remember correctly the only place the holes lined up for the rad was where I mounted it. I think the holes towards the glass were for 140mm fans.
I seriously thought this was a luggage review from that thumbnail, was like alright guess he's expanding the content a little.
Ya, I'm trying to land a Samsonite sponsorship :D
Great review. Seriously thinking about this case. Their website claims it weighs 8.8 pounds but I find that hard to believe. Did you weigh the case?
That could be right, the steel was thinner than typical for cases in this price point. Although, that might be the weight of the Max version, the Max-G may be slightly heavier due to the tempered glass side panel.
Can you do a panzer max review? I doubt which one to buy, I wanted the panzer max or the panzer max g (sorry for my English)
The panzer max and the Max-G are exactly the same case with the exception of the full tempered glass side panel on the Max-G. I would recommend the Panzer Max over the Max-G just based on the lower price, unless you just really want the glass side panel.
Thanks for the review, saved myself the hassle.
What do people do with a Type-C port?
The type-C port can utilize the USB 3.2 gen 2x2 header on many new motherboards which has transfer speeds of 20Gbs. It also allows for video output.
I managed to install a 420 mm arctic radiator in front panel of this case lol (with sacrifices 😂)
Very good review....can the interior air guide be removed?
Yes it can be removed, with just one screw if I remember correctly.
I really like mine, but one of the two USB 3.0 ports never worked. By the way, I had all the fans included, and I put a 360mm rad on top, with the fans outside of the case, right under the top panel. I guess only slim fans would fit over the motherboard. I have the Max, not G.
For the price everything should work.
@@ElevatedSystems For any price, everything should work.
Thought they have PCI 3.1 ports on the rear of the case?
Yes there are PCIe expansion slots on the rear of the case. I don't remember how many but there's a shot of the back of the case in the video.
It sounds like Cougar is a bit out of their league with this one. If those issues, which could have been avoided with a little more thought to the design, weren't present, this would be a case easily worth the asking price. As it is, there are just too many other cases in that price range with more features and without those design flaws.
I wonder if you could help. I bought this for my first build as, much like you, couldn't find any robust reviews which highlight what you have.
I have recently bought a GPU which doesn't seem to fit, how would you best solve this problem, or alternatively (as mines also came with a damaged panel) could you recommend an alternative case.
hey where can i buy those white tiles on your wall they look amazing
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S2JQEME
I have this case and he's right the AIO is a problem I plan on adding 140 mm fans and putting on a CPU heatsink and dropping the AIO
Im trying to mount my radiator to the top of the case but I cant seem to figure out how to mount it. Its a 240mm corsair h100i l. Im just confused and dont see how the screws fit in the holes.
It depends on how you mount it. Are you mounting the fans on the top of the case and the radiator inside, or both the fans and rad inside?
Elevated Systems im trying to do both rad and fans on the inside. But the top
Of my panzer max case isnt like the one in the video its just the mesh with a bunch of holes and whenever I line up the rad i dont see how its supposed to screw into the top the holes are to big for the screws.
Hey, how do you remove the outermost panels on this beast, I need to get into it to remove some busted fans, and I can't figure out how to open the outer fins to get to the square interior.
You just push on them and they come out. Push the corners of the fins
So at 6:55 he has the radiator in the top. Is that possible or no
Yes, but you will most probably need to install the fans on the top of the case 3:45
Just looked at their site today and they have updated it to show that this case (of the 4 different versions) is the ONLY one that doesn't come with the front fans. Very odd that they wouldn't include it... especially since this feels like a higher model than just the Max. Basically only the side panel is different.
It's good that they updated their website, however it doesn't change my conclusion on the case.
A bit of a warning it also doesnt support top 360mm AIO as the 3rd fan is covered by plastic and not mesh, also it does not support 140 or 120mm fan at the bottom if your PSU is larger. The design of this case is baffling.
The glass panel is different in my case. its more integrated with a push latch like the back pannel. How is this possible? Also, my case is more strudy. I tried the same movement before installing mb and didn't flex at all. I think there are different versions.
That sounds like the Panzer Max, Not the Max-G. www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553024
Only 2 3.5" drive trays? And this is a full tower? What an efficient use of space! (I'm being sarcastic) You'd think there'd be a whole lot more accommodations for storage devices. Glad I watched your video! I'll pass on this one. Need at least 8 drive bays for 3.5". Anyone have any suggestions?
Would you have returned it if it included the 3 fans and the front clip was in good shape
No. I wouldn't have had a justification to return it if it arrived intact and as described. In all fairness this case would have fit my intended build perfectly had it included the fans and not been broken. I ended up building in the Lian Li Lancool 2. ruclips.net/video/Sa9uuZmzqdY/видео.html
@@ElevatedSystems awesome review thanks for the input awesome work! I'll check it out
Thanks for the review I like the case at first but your review showed me the bad design on top air flow. thanks for the great review.
Glad I could help
@@ElevatedSystems hello. The older panzer max (not G version) has the same problem with the size front or top to install a big radiator? 9:15
I was thinking of a 240 mm water cooling system in the top
What size radiator do you recommend for the top fan ducts
I would go with 240mm, a 360mm will fit but one of the fans will be mostly obstructed.
Elevated Systems thanks I’ll sub for ya thank you for the help
Thanks for the info!
You are very welcome.
good job
so much information
Thanks Punkin, you're my #1 fan.😁👍
i'm not tha biggest fan of Tempered Glass but tha case still sells me because of tha 5.25 bays! i still use them because it's my only source of playin' Blu Ray discs and i'm not a AIO person either
I've been shopping at newegg and was curious about this case.
It was even said in their description that it had one fan, so that didn't surprise me that it was a negative here
I am really curious as to how big of a power supply that thing can fit. I've found a nice 1000w for the RTX 3080 since it is super power hungry but I would like a big case with cable management. Does anyone have recommendations?
I have an 850 Thermaltake in mine, and there's plenty of room. can't see why a 1k wouldn't fit.
Moof! Frankly, I like to pick and install my own fans so that is not a dealbuster, it would B better if they had a fan-delete option at point of purchase. If they spent an X-Tra $25 on quality instead of that piece of glass it would be better still. Overall I am happy with mine and those handles are AWESOME for moving it around. Thanx ES!
this thing is an absolute unit
I find it frustrating my 280mm AIO can't fit on the top.
11:46 on, Could you suggest some great alternatives?
The Lian Li Lancool 2, the Fractal Design Meshify C or Define 7, the Phanteks Eclipse P400A, the Corsair Carbide series.
I saw this case for sale because it was returned product, by 50%, and reason is the clip on the back panel, lol
Also ein optisch perfektes Gehäuse mit unzähligen Mängeln. Ich finds schon traurig, dass man trotz der Größe keinen Festplattenkäfig hat, sondern die Festplatten (nur 2...) ganz schäbig ungekühlt hinters Mainboard schraubt.
Yeah top and front space for cases is dissapointment, i was at the point of disassembly and cutting holes on top frame the way it shown in their promo materials, but i found out that front should be aligned by middle fan slot, then you will be able to screw in 8 screws into frame, and remaining 4 will get from fan to radiator directly, and to compensate lack of frame between fan and radiator i used thin silicone layer in between. 8 screws enought to keep radiator. What i did not like is that fans on front are not centered, they are shifted to side a little, my perfectionalist self is upset by that. I got original model with metal panels, want to replace it with latest revision with glass, but i dont like holes in it - its source of noise and dust i like more tight frame of origina just wante to have bigger window inside. also new revision has glass on top and front and i also dont like glass there with same issues, i just want glass on 1 side... and the problem is that for some reason they got glass with same holes on other side where you can see ugly cable managment, plue because glass is flat it does not have this bumpy extra space behind it to fit in fat cables.
It was 4th revision of case, which actually had 1 type C now, but it still not perfect. I really love this case, but i wish them do a new revision with modular options and all problems fixed. There is no case like this in market and i really wish it to be perfect. I dont know how can we able to influence Cougar and make them see our feedback and fix everything, but it needs to be done, i want 5th revision to make a perfect case! What needs to be done is -left pannel with shape and even sliding mechanism of V1, but with curved tampered glass attached to thinner metal frame to make window bigger but still keep tightness of V1. Right side should be metal, no windows.
Top pannel should be like V1 but full mesh, no solid plastic, front pannel also should be full mesh, this time with no windows for 5.25, just a one solid mesh. Front frame should be redesigned with 12cm and 14 cm holes in mind but without such a big space between them or there should be modular swapable frame for 14 and 12 cm to perfectly match both. Inner shell for power case should have modular window at side of power supple and also on top of power supply which may be equipped with RGB fan, also these widnows should have detachable meshes for dust. Front part of this shell should be shorter by 3 cm to support configuration with both radiator and fans attached behind frame inside case. Mechanism of fixing this shell should not require to detach video card just to open it and should not rely on screw to hold it.
Upper frame should have holes identical to new and fixed front frame, so you can set up fans bellow radiator, front should also be tweaked to actually make some radiators like MSI coreqliquid 360 fit in with tubes both directed to front and back both on upper and inner side. Reobus aka fan speed controller should be changed to analogue thin slider, with MB position and should have "incoming" port to get fan control from motherboard and to let switch between manual overrider and automatic motherboard control, with return channel to let motherboard know speed even in manual override mode. 4 pins pwm should be default option with 3 pin as fallback to backwards compatibility. Also all rubber parts should be replaced with black silicone because rubber decays fast. And all places where front, upper, left and right pannels supposed to touch case should have silicone layer to cover all gaps between case and these pannels and make them sit supper tight.
All plastic locks should re replaced with metallic or better to magnetic. Lower dust filter should be made same way is in older cases of Cougat where its inside some rails and cas has hole bahind where you can detach this filter without moving case. there should be modules to replace 2 x 2.5 ssd holders by 1x HDD 3.5 holders. case have enought space to support it. In modern NVMe SSD era i would better use 2.5 taken space with extra 2 HDDs 3.5 with 12-16 TB of space. instead of useless 2.5 Also space between PSU and front fans actually could be used as extra bay for 3.5 HDDs and i wish there be a holder next to fan space to be able to put it 3-4 hdds under shell. There needs to be a detachable plastic cover on shell to hide wiress on a low of motherboard. Also shell should have hole and built in vide card holder.
One more thing i really wish this case to had - is support for vertical video card alignment with ability to move it so far from pci EXPRESS SLOTS SO YOU CAN FIT some audio cards and other PCIE devices behind card, with PCIE 4 or 5 cable and possibly modular back panel. Also back panels for each pcie slot should have dust filter. Back fan should not be aligned to same level as motherboard panel, it should have sub-fram to let fan be put inside, because it covers motherboard RGB logos they way it is now, so it should be shifted behind motherboard deeper 2-3 cm.
Holes for cables should be wider and there should be 4 vertical instead of 3. USB 3.0 cable should be thinner and more flexible, especially connector, its pain in *** to attach and get it outside. All panel cables should de modular and detachable, in so tired to hide unused stuff like fan cables. Rgb controller should support regular ARGB and 4 pins ports or should at lest has connecters from cougars ports to regular argb+4pin. case should have all 8 fan slots equipped with their latest rgb fans.
Motherboard frame should be no so thin and screw holes should be detachable with solid metal, because current one has literally no limit of how hard you can screw them, them are bending and you can bend motherboard and have problems with PCIE alignment. This is really serious issue. Back panel of motherboard need like one extra mm to tie in well, because now its getting bend a little. Air routing panel should be 2-3 cm shorter to support radiator+fans inside config. Also i forgot to mention that upper panel should support 3x14cm fans config. Holes for fans and argb connectors of fans should be 2-3 mm wider. Maybe front, and upper panels should come packed with glass and mesh option so you can choose. But glass should not be designed like this, it should be inside metal frame that will use mesh connectors and upper and lower part of frame should have few CM meshes with detachable dust filters. and tight connection of frame with case. so the air could flow only through these dust filters. Oh and they should not forget to center fan frames on front and top to make them look perfectly symmetric.
Im pretty sure i forgot something, but thats all the problems and and things i with to improve for 5th revision that i can remember now. I really hope cougar would not stop production of this case and will improve it with new revision. i would pay extra 50-100 bucks if they will do everything i listed above i just want ultimate perfected edition of this case.
What a bummer. It looks so badass
All Cougar Panzer line is garbage. I have the Panzer-G and im tired of modifying it to get basic things like mount a 240 on front and 360 on top. Also the gap between top coolers and motherboard is sick. The worst is the tempered glass of my model; had to separate them 1/2 inch with WC hoses (like expanded the glass support) in order to get a decent air flow. Make a lot more mods and im getting tired.
It was a great review and i send you a hug from Argentina (people here greet each other like this)
Is there good alternative to this case?
This comes to mind: ruclips.net/video/s7yvACN-TjY/видео.html
I'm buying this case, but my biggest let down is that it's not actually painted like a German Pazer tank HUGE missed opportunity.
Sounds like a good case mod opportunity.
@@ElevatedSystems Nice involuntary pun my good sir.
cougar panzer evo rgb for me its one of the best bilt boxes ive had for ages and it looks practicaly i dentical lol but better and has usb c
Hello . Iam building a new pc with x299 motherboard inside . Which tower is the best to buy ? I don’t care about the cost I just want the best .
Fractal Torrent
The Panzer Max is a great case. How can this one be so much worse?
You are right the Panzer Max is a good case at it's price point. My overall conclusion is that the Max-G isn't worth the price hike, just get the Max unless you really want the full glass side panel. Also, this isn't Theee Dak is it? Cause I'm literally watching you play Minnesota at this very moment 🤔
i have this case and i have instaling acces at the top 3 fan water cooling pure loop 360mm be quiet!!!! dont say you cant doit this. this case cugarPanzer Max-G is amazing!!!!!! i have buy 160 euro and is awesome!!!!!!!
Thank you with this review. Even old in this "case" my coolermaster HAF X is better.
You're welcome.
0:52 you forgot to add the "or did I"
lol, ya this video was about 1 month into my channel.
@@ElevatedSystems keep up that good content creator work. That stuffs hard to do.
thanks
Not a fan of dark tinted glass. Not everyone lights up their case with useless LED's
thanks bro
No problem
Ok this is an epic video
Thanks.
CPU COOLER MAXIMUM ??