Red Line Must Be Not Engaging in World War: Germany's Habeck
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- German Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck says a decision on sending Germany's Leopard main battle tank to Ukraine will be easier if the US also sends equivalent vehicles to the war zone. He speaks with Francine Lacqua on "Bloomberg Surveillance Early Edition" on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum's annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland.
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This is not going to end well , many red lines have been crossed already .
We're already in WW3 so many different cogs already in motion besides the metal flying in Ukraine...
Why is this set up like they doing an interview on sports or something, this is not a game these people are playing with all our lives 🤬
It’s a game to them sadly
The background looks looks like an empty ski resort. It could be subliminal programming. Winter games are exciting. This season, the sport is war. Watch from the safety of your home, and support your winning team...
the world is a stage
The _Thrill_ of Victory...
The _Agony_ of Defeat...
This reporter is so blood thirsty
End this war. No more money.
MORE BLOOD!!!!!
' Ukraine 🇺🇦 ' White Flag " GIVE IT UP " ! ' ! ❤️ ! " Responsibility Matters for ALL Lives " ! 🇺🇸 !
Ukraine secretly as conspiracysizing with Russia to start World War 3....
Says the country that started the first two
Germany is gonna freeze while Greta is leading war against the coal mines in germany. Glad I'm not german right now. It's hard all over
Is there any way to actually prevent ww3 when we’re already in its prelude?
I don't think Russia has enough support or ability to even wage a war with any other countries
@@orionstocker493 there’s still China though. They could still benefit from one another
Yes, demand immediate peace negotiations. This war must end now, even if Ukraine loses territory!
Ukraine secretly as conspiracysizing with Russia to start World War 3....
@@dingleberryjim4456 , Xi would happily watch Russia burn and push into it.
It's back. They published it. Then it was made private. Now it's back to public. Odd.
They can get in trouble for a seemingly anti-war message in US & Western news. I highly doubt that the candidate is serious.
Here...we...go...
Tanks will solve nothing...
It will full the order books of weapon manufacturers. There's that
@@jptrainor and political leaders line their pockets.
If we keep helping WW3
Ukraine secretly as conspiracysizing with Russia to start World War 3....
No more proxy war in Ukraine!
No more support
Russia doesn't want Nato on its border. What kind of nuclear superpower would allow that? And before people in the comment section start accusing me of being a Russian bot, I leave with this so you know my bias is not blinding me. Why in the hell the US after the missile crisis in the 60s allowed Russia to set up military bases and personnel back in Cuba? The stupidest thing ever!
Well said
Ukraine secretly as conspiracysizing with Russia to start World War 3....
If Ruzzia didn't want Nato on it's border, then it should have threated its neighbors with respect and established mutually beneficial business relations with their neighboring countries. Instead Ruzzia fucks up their relations with their neighbors, pushing those countries to join Western alliances.
Russia put missiles in Cuba because the US already had missiles in Turkey, just a short flight from Moscow. Russia removed their missiles on the condition that the US remove theirs as well (which they did, but did not publicize, so as to save face.) Russia kinda had a good reason for that particular insanity... Although Castro might not have been the best choice for their "buddy."
That said, Russia is still completely in the wrong for invading Ukraine. The two situations don't really compare. This is just a land grab, and Putin is a gangster.
Germany should have considered that red line before WW2 🙄
They almost captured Russia in ww2
So is the RedLine when Berlin is divided again or then Russian Troops march into Munich?
Can always appreciate the brutal honesty of a German.
@You Tube that goes both ways back in forth for the past 2 centuries...
Kinda sounded like Schultz. I know nothing! 😃
Ya 🤓
@@evankline759 Past history does not excuse present bad behavior. Germany acts not from the memory of two centuries but rather from its subservience to the American war machine. I am an American citizen, and I believe my government is indictable for war crimes committed since the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the fire-bombing of Japanses population centers; also Hamburg and Dresden. Then there was Vietnam ...
The right to vote in the US gives our citizens no control of our war machine, because our media conceal the the war crimes of our administrations, especially since George W. Bush. We have no democratic control of foreign policy. We are misinformed by our media.
@@goedelite well you have a point. It's going to suck when our karma hits.
Yes let the Americans do everything….
Escalation of this war has been going on for decades. Yet, China has been treated much differently. Globalization has rules of not crossing that line.
Because China is the manufacturer of the world lol
Sanctions won’t work
The rule is be nice
to me, or else.
True, China has not crossed any line besides on its defense mode, unlike those who lied then invade.
Merikkka has already given Ukraine more support than some countries entire GDP.
Yep
While are kids starve and out people sleep
On the streets
Why should Germans not have free healthcare? They cannot pay a DEFENCE BUDGET and keep up free medical services with heavy steel to achieve their goals against Russia, so Americans should remain without free medical and stick praying the debts to rebuild Germany just like post-ww2. That's what Biden's fellow leftists in Germany are paying "the big guy" for via Hunter's Swiss accounts and Ukraine -registered shell corporations...
Such high and laudable standards. Let's sacrifice Ukraine, as long as *we* don't get dragged into a world war.
Such high and laudable standards. Let's sacrifice everyone, as long as we get dragged into a world war.
The US did that as soon as it made it a proxy, gutter tripe pusher knowingly lying.
So you'd rather have nuclear armageddon over a corrupt oligarchy like Ukraine? They're just as corrupt as Russia
Ukraine is not worth a nuclear war, sorry but it's not
@@thomasjones4570 I dont know anyone who wants to fight or die over a country like Ukraine.
Not mainly Anglo-America. Only the democratic-fascist state of Anglo-America.
When you conduct fourth generation warfare then pretend you didn't help start the fire...
America is in crisis and can't afford to make another Nation's problem,ours.
We've our own crisis
😂 how much have we spent already???
Ukraine secretly as conspiracysizing with Russia to start World War 3....
If France would have said that when our founding was happening we wouldn't have a country
@@TreyWK
You act like France supported the American rebels for altruistic and not selfish reasons.
@@oppie47 Regardless of the reason they supported us
Glad to see Germany giving away our tanks. Europe what's to protect Europe let them foot the bill.
Any questions?
True leadership for supporting Ukrainians
People have said the cold wars ended, but the US meddled in the Russian afghan war and Russia meddled in the US Afghan war. Now the US provided aid to Ukraine, when they UN should be supporting them.
Umm...the cold war was still going when Russia tried to take Afghanistan.
@@thomasjones4570 we know, we were there the whole time.
@@thomasjones4570why do you think Russia went to Afghanistan lol
@@dontlookback9292 You tell me oh wise one...this should be rich.
Doom... finally some honesty
Ukraine secretly as conspiracysizing with Russia to start World War 3....
World War 3 had been kick started without announcement!
CONFESSION THRU PROJECTION..
Germany has plenty to lose if they keep sending weapons to Ukraine and Germany has nothing to lose if they don't send weapons to Ukraine
Afghanistan has great weapons. You should see if they will help out 🤔
Ukraine secretly as conspiracysizing with Russia to start World War 3....
don’t wanna get into a world war to help people that’s not our thing😂
foreigners can get over there and fight if thats what they feel they need to do, but I dont want to lose friends and family over another country
Ukraine secretly as conspiracysizing with Russia to start World War 3....
2:40 the war must stay within Ukraine. Wow brutal honesty for first time! The alliance will fight to the last Ukrainian to defeat Russia. This is straight from his mouth.
You're cherry picking. He meant it can't expand globally. He was making a stand against world war.
So how about Europe take the lead in sending money to Ukraine instead of the u.s.
Ukraine secretly as conspiracysizing with Russia to start World War 3....
Ukraine must fight a hard battle and win this war alone. It's Ukraine's destiny. No question the west can obliterate Russia in a month, but nothing good will come out of that and losses on each side will be much higher. Russia must lose this war to Ukraine ALONE, without fighting NATO troops, permanently recognize failures of it's top-down leadership and escape the cycle of blaming the West for all of it's misfortunes/losses and finally become a civilized, democratic country. Unless you want another wave of revanchism in 30-50 years and other wave of attack/craziness, then by all means start World War III, bomb Russian territory, walk NATO troops into Moscow, install another puppet pseudo-democratic government. That would be insanely stupid. Russia can be an amazing long-term ally against China. We need it. Don't give it reasons to stay an angry, shady, vengeful resource-economy satellite forever.
@Congressman Matt Gaepz Ukraine doesn’t have the power to obliterate anything. Zelshitststain can only provoke those who do have the power to obliterate Moscow to do so by telling lies. He’s a Zionist bastard. Nobody will win this war. Eventually it will escalate into WW and from there almost immediately go nuclear. As long as America and its crony allies support Ukraine by not just sending small arms but large armament it will indeed come to a point where Russia makes a major chess move and destroys Ukraine or the US and NATO send major arms and Russia takes it as a declaration of war and it goes nuclear. These are the only outcomes. Nobody is going to back down.
red line must not be crossed
I find it whimsical that people like this try and make such statements. The circumstances dictate the actions taken in response.
Rule of Ukraine is inconsequential. Let Russia have it.
Let’s the people of that region decide their own autonomy
But we don’t need to be pushing them for escalation
LOL Says the country that decided to go to war with the world not once but twice!
All history is a lie 🤡
This is what you say when you haven't sufficiently studied history.
Who are the combatants of this world war supposed to be? Everyone versus Russia and Belarus? Talk about taking a knife to a gun fight. 1942 Italy might handle them.
Why isn't Germany sending any of their awesome MERCEDES tanks? These are the only tanks in the world with a plush leather interior, Blaupunkt stereo system, and, if reports are to be believed, four cup-holders instead of two.
Because Germans remember the cost of war so, they try to avoid war, where as, conservatives promote a civil war. The South had more wealth than the North at the start of the Civil War. Now, even today, the South lags behind economically.
No tanks
Fork Ukraine they couldn't win a civil war
The world needs to make a choice. Half ass wars never end well. Do it hard and fast or don't do it at all.
This is the only mentality we should entertain. For Russia, today the Ukraine, tomorrow the world.
Except that hard and fast can lead to a nuclear war.
here's an easy solution;
how's about not expanding NATO and stop overthrowing governments you don't like?
indefinitely confining all US neocons in an insane asylum would greatly help too.
@@Le_Dislike_Button What should we do with manical despots that choose to invade other countries, like say emmm errrr Russia?
@@ivorharry6372 - If you listen to Russia, them losing the war in Ukraine leads to nuclear war with NATO. Should we perhaps give them another year or two to prepare for that?
Tell the enemy what you won't do or are not willing to do. Good plan 🙄
Yea...we know your history, everyone knows
Germany still wants Russian gas
So,dragging their feet
So basically we are already in WWIII
Good job Germany. War would be over soon!
It's too late, Herr Habeck.
Let them nukes start flying
The friend of my enemy is also my enemy.
Inching towards WW3 for what reason? No!
There should be no debate about funding Ukrainian Azov Battalion Nazis.
So if Ukraine successfully purged all Azov, you’d be fine with them joining NATO? Good to know thanks
Not nazis pro putin biden Democrat
In hindsight, it is easy to sit here and be critical, but I would not have shared those thoughts publicly and thus with Putin. It would have been better, in my opinion, if there was an element of uncertainty.
The 'Western Alliance' has done nothing but reinforce Putin's belief that it will not directly oppose him, no matter how extreme his aggression in Ukraine. This is 1939-40 all over again, albeit, the consequences will be exponentially worse in the here and now.
Sounds like you support a slow escalation to WW3.
@@TheChopf26 Sounds like you support a slow escalation to WW3, i.e. the track we're presently on. FYI: "Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are bound to repeat them."
@@tbthomas5117 yes we are on that track, thats why we need to get off that track. Youre the one who has failed to learn from history and is trying to repeat it, except this war will not look like any war in history.
Corrupt Germans in bed with Putin, masking it with being for “peace”
He is one clown of the Nation here in germany....i can tell u that for sure!
He seems to think Ukraine can win this. Is that what ordinary German people think?
@@jptrainor Only those who voted for his hypocrite party
@@jptrainor Ukraine can and will win this. It's obvious.
@@DarkPesco Everything suggests it's obvious, except for the evidence.
@@DarkPesco 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Reporter should have told him,,, already done, try to stay current!
A guicker end to this conflict benefits Europe
🙏♥️🙏
Tanks aren't going to do it.
At any cost?
God in heaven save the earth please have mercy on us.
Already in WW3💡
Can World War Z stay confined to one location or does it spread everywhere?
Fallout goes with the wind ☣️
That is such a horribly written title
Interesting 🤔
You cannot fight a war if you are afraid to beat the opponent. To continue to supposedly support Ukraine, but only give them enough to maybe hold Russia from taking over, but allows Russia to continue to mount offensives and inflict damage to Ukraine is not really support at all. It must be remembered that Putin started this war and could have negociated a settlement any time. It is ludicrious to keep given Ukraine just enough to fight but not enough to win. For the Russian people to tire of the war, they need to know they are in a war. There has been several interviews in Moscow who didn't even realize they were at war.
Ukraine needs to surrender. Fighting to the last man is not a good strategy against a superpower
100%. Ukraine needs to end its war of agression.
Look look we b-b-built pleasure schools for gay men.
Great Briton just sent main battle tanks. 10 challenger mbt’s. Escalation seems inevitable.
Endgland always likes escalating wars they don't have to fight.
@@herrwahnsinn4229 like that drunk guy in your group that mouths off and then needs help lol
Erroneous...uh, you THINK? The Russians started escalation yet again with 300,000 more men. Of course thinks have to escalate to match the Russians.
Chickensballs
What a dope
Talking in circles
Turn to Jesus
Everything the MI internet said is 100% true, and is very much in line with President Zelynskyy's speech yesterday. It should also apply to Russian activity in Syria.
Germany shouldn't be helping Ukraine at all, however, especially considering that it was Germany's pipeline deal with Russia that started this conflict to begin with. I very much hold Germany accountable for this war. If I was the US president, I would kick Germany out of NATO. I would very much blame Germany for hedging both sides to Germany's selfish advantage.
One could extend that logic to Al Gore being the cause of the war.
Lmao your Russian to English translation service needs a little help
What started the war is Putin invading a sovereign neighbor, the end.
It wasn't the pipeline that started the war, it was the CIA backed coup in 2014 to replace the democratically elected government with a US aligned government. That started the Ukrainian civil war. The current Russian invasion is just an escalation of the civil war that has been going for 7 years. Ultimately it's the United States that caused this conflict.
I wish the US could kick itself out of NATO. I'm no fan of Donald Trump, but I miss his ideas on this.
US destroyed the pipeline
"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." Matthew 5:38-39
"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly." Matthew 6:5-6|
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
If let Ruzzia eats Ukraine, the next will be Latvia, Estonia, Poland, and so on. Orks never stops.
Ukraine needs to end its war of agression.
such shameless double speak. Germany has fought Russia twice and lost twice.
"Red Line Must Be Not Engaging in World War: Germany's Habeck"
*TRANSLATION: we in germany NEED cheap russian resources to get rich and lord it over the peon countries in our -4th reich- EU
so we in germany are OK with russia taking over small insignificant countries in Lebensraumski. Bye Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Estonia, Moldavia. This is a sacrifice we in germany are willing to make for cheap gas*
👎👎👎
Look at this appeasement
You fight wars because of the principles at stake, not because of what you are afraid they might become.
People fight wars for money. There is no other reason.
Principles?
The US and NATO have no principles
@@doggobork-bork5305 The most important reasons for fighting a war have not a damn thing to do with money. Ask any Ukrainian.
@@DoctorFixMaster it's always about money, don't be naive. Governments just make up a reason because if they admit their financial ambitions, people would not fight for those governments. Since the dawn of civilization, every single war has been faught to benefit someone in some way over others.
@@doggobork-bork5305 While guzzling on your flagon of caustic cynicism, you didn't talk to any Ukrainians about that, did you?
Good luck with that. We're due for one.
They turn off my comments on the Debt limit fight! I say DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!!!
This war is the result of Ukraine’s disarmament in the 90’s. At that time, they possessed nuclear weapons. Ukraine is the perfect example of what happens when you are perceived by a stronger entity of being an easy target.
This is also what happens when a government views itself as being in a dominant position over its people, and why without private firearms ownership as a deterrent, the government ALWAYS veers towards control and dictatorship.
The strong prey on the weak. A simple and obvious concept forgotten by a generation that can’t figure out which bathroom to use…
Tyranny took place under your watch. You watch it form and now you are looking at us as the problem sorry you dropped the ball we were just born into it.
@@peatyxxjxxx1494 I am in my 30’s. No, this didn’t happen under my “watch”.
By the way, it is your generation’s fault there is a push to restrict firearms throughout what was previously the free world. This is because you are ignorant of the lessons of recent history. But don’t worry. The hegemon that will come about from your generation’s stupidity and carelessness will teach you this lesson. I imagine that you will become very familiar with what oppression looks like…
@@Mautiks what lessons? No firearms leads to genocide? Please. I used to believe that watched “innocents betrayed” then I started realizing that this issue isn’t being framed under the proper context and the main guy that was yelling about a police state is now on the side of the police and authoritarian rule while telling you he’s on the side of freedom. The proper context is Tyranny came a long time ago and the accumulation of nuclear weapons is its signifier. If the 2nd amendment nuts were really about that life they would’ve put a stop to anything that would give a government the power to destroy all life on Earth. You want to talk about encroaching on freedoms how about the daily threat to my existence encroaches on all of my rights not just my right to own a firearm. It’s an insane global game of chicken that our government has entered in and we are all simply “lucky” that we are still here. Guns, no guns doesn’t really matter you just haven’t woken up to that reality you think there still a chess game going on and you’ve been checked way before you even started the game. There’s a push to ban firearms because they are now just really dangerous toys in that end up in thd hands of incompetent and highly sensitive individuals that use them to mainly take their own life but if they are a real POS they will take innocent people with them. We also live in the 21st century a gun is a relic of the past there are more modern solution to self defense and protection. Police have implemented non lethal weapons like the Byrna HD to assist them in apprehending non compliant suspects.
You forgot about the Minsk agreement that Ukraine continually broke. And they let NATO have wayyy too much influence in their country. What would the US do if Russia militarily supported Mexico right across our border? We'd invade Mexico yesterday. Ukraine made their own bed
Ukraine didn't have posession of those nukes and had no way to use or even maintain them. The nukes didn't belong to Ukraine.
Get in line with the level of our partners. I call BS. Germany hasn't come anywhere near the US or the UK,. Propaganda from leadership financially tied to Russia. Plan and simple.
When Russia its u with after me there is 9nly silence don't he made at Russia for defending its country after nato and america broke cold war o race agreements
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It's there super sonic nuke that doesn't fly in our atmosphere goes faster then anything America has and it is called
AFTER ME THERE IS ONLY SILENCE
makes u think now don't it 🤔
By the time that showed up on radar after coming into America from outerspace u don't have time to think 7 seconds from.the time.amer8ca.seeins it to destination go.shooting tuay down.and.if u did it be even a worse then it impacting the ground just saying
Every action has a repercussion
For posterity's sake Germany says it does not want nor is it willing to start world war.
Better put it in writing too Hans, this whole thing could go tits up and get blamed on you again
I look at what Germany is doing, not saying. Germany's actions do not match his words, they are provoking a world war, supporting a country that OPENLY has a whole battalion whose last ally was ADOLF HIMSELF, in actions that Putin has made CLEAR -- clear as a perfect diamond -- will result in Russia protecting the Slavics from human rights abuses (e.g. imagine USA says "We put anyone in Arizona IN JAIL FOR SPEAKING SPANISH ON USA SOIL": that's one example since Zelensky's SECRET POLICE have indeed jailed ppl just for speaking Russian. Zel has BANNED ALL UKRAINIAN MEDIA EXCEPT FOR HIS STATE-CONTROLLED MINISTRY OF PROPAGANDA, AND BANNED 11 PARTIES WHO NEITHER PARTOOK IN VIOLENCE NOR SUPPORTED PUTIN, then Biden tells his dumdum NPC supporters "we're supporting FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY". Biden's MONEY LAUNDERED by U banks for Hunt's "energy ceo" crimes with Gorgje-Sôros & trafficking Ukrainian prostitutes for Hun Bidn's DRUG DEALS, while DISSENTING POLITICIANS AND FREE SPEECH SUSPENDED, TO CREATE A ONE-PARTY STATE, is not "freedom and democracy". GERMANY DELENDA EST. BLUE STATE VOTERS DELENDA EST -- crimes against humanity... Some biologists i know created a nice microbe to take care of NATO vvar crimes, as CONFESSED now by Andrew Huff regarding another area outside Crimea -- you are ENEMIES OF HUMANITY, ITSELF, AND SHALL BE TREATED AS SUCH BY THE NEWLY ENGINEERED FIGHTERS.
Why don’t you help your neighbor Poland … Germany … anyone ?
Would it not be a better path forward to take a definitive stance and decisive action against Russian oppression than to wallow in remorse over the holocaust? I get it but, damnit man, you guys are capable of so much more.
Oh course, they’re going to wallow in the holocaust. Do you think America would ever allow a post-war occupied Germany to have even a single shred of self-respect?
Russian oppression?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As far as the Germans, the LEAST they could have done was make a serious energy deal with the U.S., Canda and Mexico. A deal that Biden would have been unable to turn his back on...
germany should have never become dependent on russia.
Germany is better off aligned with Russia, the United States is a bad partner. Look at how we blew up their pipeline. Germany needs cheap and abundant energy. They chose wrong though and now they will suffer. Its self inflicted though so a bit hard to feel bad for them.
Neville Chamberlain also had the belief that good people could reason with a dictator. It seems not possible.
Chamberlain’s country (England) was under threat of invasion or occupation. Germany is not under threat, instead, it is choosing to export it’s war machine. I get it, but that’s a little different.
The US is the dictator.
"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." Matthew 5:38-39
"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly." Matthew 6:5-6|
@@followerofjesuschrist. Non sequitur.
Putin is not a dictator.
This got to be the softest war of all time.
Like 100,000 ppl have died lol
Germany helping neonazis in ukrania,they dont remember ww2
Arming Ukraine to defend itself is not a red line, nor is supplying MBTs.
Ukraine secretly as conspiracysizing with Russia to start World War 3....
Why doesn't Ukraine have its own military?
No, I mean _real_ military...
Quaint to see Germany castrating itself on the world stage.
Germany seems to be conveniently ignoring its own sordid history as regards the Sudetenland, in 1938. Germany (and the rest of NATO) would do well to recall Neville Chamberlain's grave mistake of capitulating to Hitler, which ultimately resulted in WWII.
Did you even listen to what the minister said? It appears not.
He's talking about avoiding a 3rd World War. That is specifically because of Germany's history.
WW2 was the direct result of an unstable world order and unreasonably punitive conditions imposed on Germany after the First World War. Such conditions are a breeding ground for fanatical ultranationalistic sentiment, which untimely brought Adolf Hitler into power.
What you chickenhawks fail to understand, is after 1933 WW2 was unavoidable
@@Le_Dislike_Button That was some random masturbation. Everyone knows about the conditions after WWI that led to part 2. The reason nobody is talking about that, is because it's not applicable to this video.
The modern Germany is very much against this history, and remorseful it happened, thus why he's saying he will only assist Ukraine with weapons, but not actually participate in another World War.
You don't get to insult other people's intelligence until you can stay focused on the topic at hand.
@@Danielson1818 the point is that justifying participation in this conflict because of the failure of the Munich Agreement is invalid, ignorant, and disingenuous. Every single disastrous US intervention has been justified by equating the current bogeyman to hitler. In reality, Putin, much like Saddam, Gaddafi, Milosevic, Assad, are NOTHING AT ALL like hitler and anybody who makes such an argument deserves to have their intellect questioned.
The countries of the world should offer amnesty, a means of escape, to the citizens of Ukraine.
Every dictatorial despot in history never stopped after one invasion.
They should offer weapons also. If they think by not sending the Ukraine military tanks and there will be no world war they are sadly mistaken. If Russia takes the Ukraine next is the world nation by nation.
Giving up isn't an option now, for either party.
The EU has banned, from the very beginning of the Russian armed intervention in Ukraine, the entrance of any Ukrainian male of combat age into its territory through their borders, denying them “War Refugee” Status, literally putting them in buses to be sent back into Ukraine and dropped at Kyiv’s Recruiting Centers, simultaneously sending Billions of Euros and US Dollars in weaponry.
The Atlantic Alliance, that is the USA, the UK, the EU and their global allies, are using Ukraine’s Armed Forces as a NATO Proxy Army, Ukraine territory as Battlefield, and the Ukrainian Population as cannon fodder, in a war of attrition against Russia, and against the China - Russia Strategic Partnership.
Meanwhile, Zelinskyy, along with the Ukrainian oligarchs, are more than happy to serve Ukraine, the most corrupt European nation since its independence from the URSS, in a silver plate to NATO, in exchange to being their “Business Partners” and fill their global network of offshore accounts.
Germany will let Ukraine bleed for as long as it doesn’t spill into its territory. But is a highly unpredictable “game”, and already bloody for both Ukraine and Russia.
all Ukrainians deserve automatic US citizenship, since their country would certainly not be facing calamity had the Obama State Department never overthrown the Yanukovych government. Thanks Victoria Nuland✡ !
Should have just sent them jets in the first place 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
4th Reich invading Russia? Not a good look. Maybe Germany should stop waging war against Russia.
Let's take a journey on the wayback machine. "Conservatives say Obama is like Neville Chamberlain." When Obama was president conservatives railed against appeasement. Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich accord of 1938 surrendering the Sudetenland to Hitler (a right wing icon) to avoid war with Germany. An interesting side note: conservatives were against giving aid to Churchill in Britan's fight against fascism. How conservatives are against aiding Ukraine in it's fight against Putin's fascism. Conservatives being as ignorant about history has they are about most everything, Think Putin would stop at Ukraine?
Putin? The Communist who earned his striped in a Far Left sevret police group that accused Ukraine of being fAsCiSt?
If the Obama State Department did not overthrow the Yanukovych government in 2014, Crimea would still be part of Ukraine.
As with all wars of the last 30 years, the US is directly responsible for starting this mess.
Why should other people's children fight and die for YOUR WAR, you deranged chickenhawk?
That same mentality got us into Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam. In Vietnam, after Tet, the US government decided the war needed to be more of a Vietnamese effort. They called it "Vietnamization." So we were dependent on the South Vietnamese to fight and die for a profoundly corrupt government. This failed miserably, but we again did the exact same thing in Afghanistan. Now Ukraine? I wish Ukraine was different, but it's not. It's easy to point to the injustice of what Putin is doing. He is a war criminal. But anyone who thinks we should be involved doesn't understand the history of that conflict.
There is a sizable population of people in Crimea who support what Putin is doing. The conflict is centuries old.
In 1962 the US made it very clear that we would never tolerate Soviet missiles in Cuba. Now, there are NATO missiles in Poland, and Ukrainian membership has been discussed for the last 30 years. People expect the Russians to tolerate what we never would. Everyone sees it as Russian aggression, but the history books will correctly record it as the result, at least in part, of US aggression.
@@wintercook2 Whether Afghanistan, Iraq or ARVN, these were military forces who never showed the will to fight, were as, Ukraine has taken the fight to their enemy.
Conservatives tried to show Obama's appeasement by comparing him to Chamberlain and the Munich Agreement of 1938 that gave Hitler Sudetenland.
Did this appeasement work? We lost 500.000 American in the European Theater during WWII. Conservatives were against giving miliary aid to Chruchill.