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- Опубликовано: 10 апр 2023
- Welcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2023 experiment video I put Barcelona and Real Madrid in the Premier League to see how the two Spanish giants would get on in England, in FM21
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Everton casually in the bottom half of the table qualifying for UCL 😂 6:39
That means they must’ve won the FA cup, then the Europa League, then got UCL. I know Everton fans would kill for that right now 😂
An insane set of circumstances!
No way that happens IRL though
Can confirm, am an Everton fan who would chop off their left bollock for that to happen.
i would do ungodly things for that amount of success. our board have ruined our club
As a Everton fan. Hell yeah better than what we have now
That's weird as it's the opposite in real life, Barcelona flying in Laliga and Madrid in the ucl.
So apparently moving real and Barcelona to the prem makes arsenal a monster in the champions league. That I love to see
The butterfly effect is crazy 😂
Their team was class! Knockout specialists
please tell me you're from the future mate
Video suggestion: top 3-5 teams from the top 5 leagues get put into the same league, we can truly see what team would be the best on paper then.
A real Super League 👀
@@TomFM and an extra idea on top of it I just thought of now if you want to fill out the rest of the slots, take the top team from the next few leagues and put them into that same league as well
Isn’t that basically what the champions league does anyway lol
@@TomFM If i remember correctly to one of last Fm's i believe it started from 2017 ... someone created a Super Ligue 30 or 34 TOP reputation clubs smashed together with
i found it - World Super League (WSL) for FM22
That is superleague 😅
The Problem here is that Madrid and Barca Likely can't register all of their players because of homegrown problems. Also how did Real Madrid draw Barca in the Round of 16 at 5:00 ? isn't that not possible?
Maybe it'll be scrapped as part of the overall format change?
4:43 actually Barça also have Frenkie de Jong at 183
Oops, I missed that! Great spot!
Love Tenerife casually finishing 3rd in the final La Liga season.
I think Southampton and Leicester are proving that the Premier League is massively overrated in FM.
The issue isn't even with the best players - I'd argue they're all rated correctly. The issue is with the squad players who are much, much better than they are in reality. A few points off their CA and PA to match reality would balance the Premier League out compared to the rest of Europe. It won't stop the best teams from still being the best, but it'll fix the rest of them in Europe.
Those two had no business doing that well in La Liga, they would get absolutely battered
@@mnm5165 bottom half la liga teams are about as good as average championship teams so this makes sense
They are not too overrated I think, Premier League is juat filthy rich/strong
@@FlyingSandile It's rich, but I don't agree that all the teams are strong - Leicester and Southampton have been terrible this year, yet the game thinks (without Premier League money or reputation to help them) they're both solid La Liga sides. That just isn't true.
As I said, the issue isn't with the 'good' players, it's with the squad players that are far better than they are in reality. SI/the FM scouts has always historically had a bias towards the Premier League (and certain other teams outside it) which means it always overperforms reality. How othen have you seen the Champions League winners be English team after English team for years? Again, that doesn't reflect what actually happens.
There just needs to be a bit of balancing, and for someone at SI to take an objective view of their scout's reports and fix a bit of the bias that they currently have.
@@StewartForsyth if you simulated like 10 normal prem season with Leicester and Southampton in them then in a few of them they’d probably do quite well and get around mid table. Probably a similar case if you redid the actual prem season irl again. Everyone knows Leicester’s squad is way too good for relegation and Southampton have very good young players. La liga is also definitely not near the prem in terms of depth of quality especially towards the lower end so for Leicester and Southampton to get upper mid table and challenge for fringe European spots isn’t that weird at all tbh.
Video suggestion:
Put everyone from the Championship to the second league tier one of the top 5 league and see after years how clubs are doing. In reverse we could see how clubs from second tier they got into the premier league/league one. Could be several episodes :D
I love seeing Villarreal doing well in these sims.
I only just discovered your channel and I love it 😁 I love these FM experiments
Welcome aboard!
That second season was incredible with 4 teams within a point (and a couple GD) of winning the title. Even down to 6th was a title challenge. Would have been the best season in history if it was true!
Does having Spanish based teams in the EPL affect their operating costs at all? Having to fly backwards and forwards to the UK every other week can't be cheap.
Do you really think this is a big operating costs?
By the way, do you think this teams don't take flights to play La Liga ???
Interesting idea for a video, not sure how viable it is though. What would happen if each premier league club was managed but one of its former players? Kompany at City, Boa Morte at Fulham etc
I had the same idea! Trying to only use players who were legends at the club. Chelsea - Lampard, Arsenal -Vieira or Henry, Man U - Rooney or Van Nistelrooy, Liverpool - Gerrard, but some of them you might have to add to the database. Like Matt Le Tissier for Southampton. It would be fun to see who lasts longest and who goes on to have the best career.
Video idea! Simulate what happens if Catalonia gains independence and establishes a separate league (which is what they'll have to do) and, this is important, if Barcelona moves to Ligue 1. What's left for the brand new Catalan league? Does La Liga stay in the top 3 long term? How well does Barca do in the French league? And most importantly, how does this new Catalan league do in the long term when you simulate several decades into the future? Do they ever get to a point where they qualify 3 or 4 teams to the Champions League? The Catalonians have some real money, and they also produce an insane amount of talent. Would the Catalan league match the quality of the Netherlands? Belgium? Would they do even better?
That's the scenario. Catalan independence, and Barcelona to Ligue 1. How does that play out?
And what about a separate Flemish league and a separate Walloon league after a hypothetical split of Belgium? Of the Brussels-Capital Region-based teams, Anderlecht would be put to the Flemish league and Union Saint-Gilloise to the Walloon league. Multiple Walloon teams have to be taken from lower tiers of Belgian football.
It's Ruben Selles he's a la Liga manager....he tries to play Spanish football with Southampton and it got us relegated but he might be successful in la liga
Could I maybe make a suggestion for an experiment video? Swapping clubs across continents! Like for example, what would happen if you swapped the English and Brazilian teams? Would the English teams dominate the Copa Libertadores? Would the Brazilian teams even manage to compete in the UCL? And what would the transfers be like? Thats something I'd always thought would be interesting, and if you wanted to do it on a lower scale, how about swapping Scotland and USA? Anyway, love your experiment videos, they're always so well edited and put together, thankyou!
Would that be interesting to make a video where you explain the European Cups Group Stage reform for the 2024/25 season with the help of FM23. For example, you record the group stage draws for UCL, UEL and UECL and explain how it works etc...
I'm not sure I've explained it well and if it's understandable but hopefully you'll see what I mean
It would be interesting to know they’re youth recruitment was now being based in England.
When you end up last in the Premier League and still get as much money as the winner in La Liga ofc the leagues are going to be unbalanced to each other. Premier League teams are massively overpaid.
The Premier league is definitely overrated on FM.
Yeah there is no way in hell that Southampton and Leicester would be anywhere near the top 4 in La Liga If we’re being honest
@@bababababababa6124 they had no business being there 😂they would get battered
@@bababababababa6124 other than atleti, barca and real, la liga is REEEEEEALLLY weak
@@xenon8342 So weak that Villareal reached the semis in the champions league last year. So weak that teams like Sevilla have battered others in the Europa league, including Man U. Get out of my face PL suck off.
@Dan SouthLondon Talk to me when your league has more champions league trophies than La Liga.
FM probably the only place where Prem teams out do spanish teams in champions league titles. Guess they got to do what makes their fantasy seem “real”
Would it be possible to do this with the best belgian teams? I know they will not get far but it would be funny 😁
I’m an arsenal fan but even I had to laugh at arsenal winning four champions leagues in a row
Imagine being a Reál or Barça fan in the 51/52 Season. The Banter will go on forever.
Can you do a video with a team that you edit the stats so they have 20 for big matches compared to 1 for big matches
your videos bring me so much comfort :3
As a Saints fan, I approve of this video! It would be nice to see a bit of success after years of mismanagement.
Why I always see in such type of experiments when Premire League claimed 8 or more Europe places? I saw here 6 Champions league places one, insane.
I know it is possible when 2 teams outside of top-4 won Champions league and Europe League, but in that case place #4 usually drop to Earope League, so that just makes no sense.
It's the new UEFA rules coming in 2024. The top 2 nations by UEFA coefficient (usually England and Spain) will get a 5th spot for the team with the highest UEFA coefficient who didn't qualify for the Champions League. Essentially a way to keep some of the clubs who were going to start the Super League happy. And then that 6th place would have been a team qualifying as they won another European tournament.
@@TomFM damn it. Interesting, and I did not know that. Thanks for clarification
Great video as always 👏🏻
Awesome video idea!
Glad you think so!
Crazy how Barca can win anything in the play offs in Europe, while irl they have no idea how to do it xD
Can you do a retro UCL and UEFA Cup with just the Champions qualifying for UCL and the others for UeFA Cup? I wish it would go back to that System in real life too. 😢
Alternative tiltle,Barça and Madrid switch places in the PL
How do u show their CA?
9:49 pep guardiola arena 😂
include juve, milan, inter, roma, napoli, bayern, dortmund, psg, marseille, lyon, leipzig, newcastle, porto, ajax to the existing top 6 of pl and make a league
Next up put Ajax in the Premier League but....
Make it Ajax with the best players from the past 5 years (which would simulate what Ajax could be if it could hold on to its best players).
So, Ziyech, Alvarez, Blind, De Ligt, De Jong, Antony, Mazraoui, Haller and Onana would still be at Ajax for example.
Did I hear you say "World class player in Upamecano"? 💀
Great video
Great idea.. Can you please explain how you change the teams in the editor? Really stuck?
Thanks
Andy
Hi Tom, any plans to do a career save. Loved the Aberdeen “On the rocks” save. 😀
Barca beating Bayern and Madrid can't win a UCL is crazy 💀💀
This has to be the 3rd time you've done this experiment. Definitely seen this video before
I've done Celtic and Rangers a couple times before, and some similar Tik Tok's, but never these teams on RUclips!
How does stuff like homegrown and stuff work here?
Barcelona also won a Papa Johns by the end xD
how do you change a clubs league?
With all the money, Man city fans must get to FIFA and FM to see their club win UCL
Lol, winning the Prem with 83 points and City suddenly getting 79 points in a season? Kai Havertz winning the golden boot and scoring 23 goals while Haaland gets 19 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If Man City were in La Liga or the Serie A, their players stats wouldn’t be as high 🥱
If Barca and Madrid plays in the EPL
It will become a Farmers league with Man City competing for the 2nd spot
Here is a fun one. Barcelona and Madrid in the MLS. To see how much they decline and keep up 😊
You should have put Southampton and Leicester in there with RM and Barcelona and see if they would reach anywhere
Minor thing: It's actually pronounced Levandovski.
In Poland they pronounce the W as V
10 teams qualifying for Europe in season9!
4:49
Pedri was not barca best player at 176 because frenkie is at 183
What type of squad view do you use to look at the current ability and club??
You could create the 'super league' that was talked about
VAMOSS TOMFM
My predictions: Real will win the first season, Man City the second one. Leicester and Southampton will dominate La Liga though. Real and Barca will drop off in season 3. City to win their first ever UCL, Southampton doing greatly too. Barca will do well in Europe but not domestically. How did I do? Cant wait to find out!
Edit: Oh wow, I got everything right quite surprisingly!
Man City losing 6/7 games in a league season? This simulator is broken...
Pretty sure Declan Rice played center back when he was a youngster
Hi tom, could you try pumping money into the singapore premier league. As a fan of the channel from singapore im always curious how that would turn out. Especially when our local football isn’t that great
U can do that urself but it won't do much, players don't wanna sign
How do you simulate all these years, how many hours does it take?
You should put the top 80 teams or something in the top 4 english leagues
how to move team?
Give all europe league big tv deal same as premiere league and see 100 years
Hey Tom playing as Rochdale in the prem my affiliate are Lincoln currently they sit second In the championship
Oh my word, up the IMPS!
How do you move clubs to other leauges?
pre-game editor
The fm editor
Not the one in game. Then you search for the league add them there + go to the club to indicate which league they will play in I think.
you know it`s really a simulation if ARSENAL won a CL :D
2:33 Arda Güler 🇹🇷💙💛
tbh i feel a dutch+belgian league merger would be far more realistic and beneficial for both parties?
Wth, Arsenal and Barca winning UCL and Real winning leagues
1 champions league no question.
fardin would be really mad bc of real sociedad
Can i download editor file some where? I would like to play barca in prem
Southampton in Champions League is just the copium I need
ChampionSHIP is close enough 😂
Oh, the transfer showing up in the season prior annoys me so much!
One of my biggest bugbears
"Lou and Owsky"?
I predict season 1: Real 1st, Barca 2nd
nah they didnt make the championsleague final cuz they gave alaba #7
Can you make the European super league
With the best 92 teams in the english system
Why do you pronounce the word 6th as sict?
So realistic 😂😂
Man, this is a complain I ever have with FM. Premier Leage is overpowered in every aspect, is a game that is built around England.
Can you simulate the idea of a super league?
What game are you playing
what skin do you use?
4 UCL in a row for Arsenal ❤
Place Celtic and Rangers into the Premier League, if you haven’t done so already. I can do with a laugh.
He’s done that already, like 9 or 10 months ago
Now put P$G there. They will not finish higher than 10th. What a joke of a team
How do u do that?
IF ONLY IT COULD HAPPEN IN REALITY
have they had it too easy in spain? - (sevilla knocks man u out of europe 3-0)
Where can get this game free?
what stie called ?
i always see declan rice at psg
Well, Barcelona is evidently decaying rn no? Aren’t they because of the debt?
What league is everyone managing in?
Barca on top