I Flipped the English Football Leagues

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  • Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2023
  • Welcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2024 experiment video I flipped the English Football Leagues to put non-league teams like Chesterfield and Dorking Wanderers in the Premier League, and moved those teams like Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester City into the National League. How quickly will they be able to get back, and will the non-league clubs be able to hold them off?
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  • @ILIASFG
    @ILIASFG 7 месяцев назад +180

    I love how klopp wasn't mad about his side being relegated but the fact he would have to play more games 😂

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  7 месяцев назад +21

      It's all he cares about!

    • @jonathanstewart8106
      @jonathanstewart8106 7 месяцев назад +2

      Jurgen gotta jurgen

    • @codiesmith9425
      @codiesmith9425 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@TomFM how do you flip the leagues like this, is it a mod and if so how do you get it?

    • @fildafernandes4366
      @fildafernandes4366 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@codiesmith9425it's a mod probably

    • @seldengriffen9770
      @seldengriffen9770 4 месяца назад

      @@codiesmith9425fm editor

  • @daniel.7885
    @daniel.7885 7 месяцев назад +101

    5:34 "What were the ODDS of that happening" at Tonali💀

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  7 месяцев назад +10

      Glad someone got it 😂

    • @Joshyt1907
      @Joshyt1907 3 дня назад

      Lol 💀

  • @Bobstar10
    @Bobstar10 7 месяцев назад +222

    “And why will it be Tottenham Hotspur”

    • @jaxonbarbee2508
      @jaxonbarbee2508 7 месяцев назад +4

      🎉

    • @BrentTharp
      @BrentTharp 7 месяцев назад +5

      I freaking loved that.

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  7 месяцев назад +16

      They're the easy target!

    • @noahbonnaire8976
      @noahbonnaire8976 7 месяцев назад +3

      The obsession is cringe

    • @CCCPRusRus
      @CCCPRusRus 5 месяцев назад +3

      "More realistic than Saudi Arabia hosting the 2034 World Cup"

  • @MJWild250
    @MJWild250 7 месяцев назад +8

    Hi Tom, I love watching your videos. I was wondering if you'd ever consider downloading one of those mods where you can unlock more leagues in the English pyramid ( i.e lower than Vanarama North/south) and then flip the league's, and see how that would go lol

  • @jamiepike6909
    @jamiepike6909 7 месяцев назад +11

    Man City still cooking the books and getting away with it😂

  • @user-bg5wv8uz8e
    @user-bg5wv8uz8e 5 месяцев назад +1

    Coming from a Bury fan: I love that Bury somehow always do great in your last couple of videos.
    Have you considered doing a video on Bury?

  • @mikkelkold9633
    @mikkelkold9633 7 месяцев назад +13

    Hi Tom, i love these videos with the tables switched around. I have another idea, what if the top 6 teams where put in the league below the national league? To simply give the obvious stronger teams more competition. And some breakout winners from the rest of the league. Just so the rest of the Old Prem have sort of a 2-season head start😅

  • @forestaregoingdown7717
    @forestaregoingdown7717 7 месяцев назад +1

    This video was had more surprises than I would have expected

  • @BrazilianDaftPunkFan
    @BrazilianDaftPunkFan 7 месяцев назад +4

    Chelsea being in the National League is realistic

  • @ShalomBrother
    @ShalomBrother 6 месяцев назад +4

    11:31 excuse me? What about OLDHAM!!

    • @LapliChungus1213
      @LapliChungus1213 4 месяца назад

      Oldham are probably 40 devisions down😂😂

  • @SamButler22
    @SamButler22 7 месяцев назад +3

    Surely the 4 worst in the national league swap with the 4 best championship sides

  • @weewhiskydram1294
    @weewhiskydram1294 7 месяцев назад +4

    Was more impressive that Bradford were still in the Prem 40 years later!

  • @Arctix0998
    @Arctix0998 7 месяцев назад +10

    Finally my local team Bromley doing wonders irl and in Fm

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  7 месяцев назад

      It happens to everyone eventually!

    • @CZiderFORCE1
      @CZiderFORCE1 7 месяцев назад

      Big up the Bromley

  • @rhesusminus7303
    @rhesusminus7303 7 месяцев назад +3

    Interesting that York took six wins and two draws from the first season (1:12). That means York beat Kiddy, Maidenhead and Oxford home and away AND also drew TWICE with real Premier League teams. That is the real shocker of the first season. 😳

  • @TT10Boss
    @TT10Boss 7 месяцев назад +1

    I didn't realise how posh TomFM was until he said "for pure bants innit"

  • @TDBTylerable
    @TDBTylerable 7 месяцев назад

    You had me at "for pure bantz innit" xD

  • @NathanHeaver
    @NathanHeaver 7 месяцев назад +3

    Luton are used to being in the national league

  • @cooliuswizard4034
    @cooliuswizard4034 7 месяцев назад +1

    Didn't you do this before, but guess now this Is updated

  • @BuyBronze1
    @BuyBronze1 7 месяцев назад +1

    Dorking on the thumbnail 🔥

  • @jonathangardner7766
    @jonathangardner7766 4 месяца назад

    York with 20 points im actually impressed with that 👏 there is a big gap, but they gave it a go

  • @jaydenfitton4257
    @jaydenfitton4257 7 месяцев назад

    u did a vidoe last year about making the mls able to play in champions league by putting the league as apart of europe how did u do it?

  • @jonathanstewart8106
    @jonathanstewart8106 7 месяцев назад +1

    64 point Bromley wins the first EPL. God I'd love to watch that league season

  • @asyedan5172
    @asyedan5172 7 месяцев назад +5

    I once remember flipping the English leagues in FIFA, and Liverpool lost the Championship playoffs to Mansfield Town lmao. They came third behind City and... Chelsea iirc, but then did the bottlejob of the century in the playoffs.

  • @interista39
    @interista39 7 месяцев назад

    12:59 Macclesfield is back! :)

  • @codiesmith9425
    @codiesmith9425 7 месяцев назад +1

    11:57 Leeds, Leicester and Southampton left the chat

  • @omarschrouder614
    @omarschrouder614 7 месяцев назад +1

    As a villa fan watching this, i can ssy with all confidence, Emery out.

  • @Snappycutegstarbroski
    @Snappycutegstarbroski 7 месяцев назад +1

    3:01 my local team is tamworth and their bottom 💀

  • @DanoFSmith-yc9tg
    @DanoFSmith-yc9tg 4 месяца назад +1

    Friggin Debby, up to her schinanigans again. Lol

  • @acleedsunited
    @acleedsunited 7 месяцев назад +2

    8:47 😀🏆

  • @assortedcave7408
    @assortedcave7408 7 месяцев назад

    Ah I wanted to see the premier league clubs that were relegated in the first season from the national league and how badly they destroyed the national league north/south :(

  • @benhayward2597
    @benhayward2597 7 месяцев назад

    Gutted for Wrexham and Notts County, they got robbed here.

  • @EjvindGEMDark
    @EjvindGEMDark 7 месяцев назад

    "Grimsby, as usual, are the best club in Lincolnshire" didn't appear on the news ticker?

  • @kaistewart006
    @kaistewart006 7 месяцев назад

    Can you put the premier league clubs all the way down to like the 8th division next time you make a video like this?

  • @FreemindTv11
    @FreemindTv11 7 месяцев назад +1

    Poor Luton getting stuck in non-league again

  • @CaptainFishbeard
    @CaptainFishbeard 7 месяцев назад

    Leeds got ahead of this last season - now a league ahead - that’s thining

  • @lakey1237
    @lakey1237 7 месяцев назад

    Hi ho Stockport County!!

  • @ChipNDip67
    @ChipNDip67 7 месяцев назад

    Why don’t you flip reputation as well?

  • @noddyjoe
    @noddyjoe 7 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely glazing over Swansea making UECL in season 1 😅

    • @lw.1730
      @lw.1730 7 месяцев назад

      I was wondering this, making UECL from League Two (with a Championship team, granted)

    • @JordanCCFC17
      @JordanCCFC17 7 месяцев назад

      As a cardiff fan it was purposefully glazed over

  • @SK-io2no
    @SK-io2no 7 месяцев назад

    Who is this Saikou Janneh fella?

  • @panimho
    @panimho 7 месяцев назад +1

    Do with European leagues,reverse the rankings

  • @Duugsofficial
    @Duugsofficial 7 месяцев назад

    you should play fm24 online with your friends

  • @Dorkingwanderer
    @Dorkingwanderer 7 месяцев назад

    DORKING! WOAAAAAH WOAAAH WOAAAH WOAAAH WOOAH WOOAH DORKING!

  • @user-bc6ly9hx6m
    @user-bc6ly9hx6m 3 месяца назад

    it wasn’t js norwich that weren’t in the national league to start in top 10 leeds leicester and southampton were in league 2

  • @antuari.
    @antuari. 7 месяцев назад

    why were man city in the champions league when they were in league two? did they win uel?

  • @haydenandhayden
    @haydenandhayden 7 месяцев назад

    Yeah I feel realistically most teams would lose most their players not just retain a world class team

    • @llSuperSnivyll
      @llSuperSnivyll 5 месяцев назад

      This is what happens when teams are swapped but reputations aren't.

  • @jordanquinn8533
    @jordanquinn8533 7 месяцев назад

    Hibs challenge please

  • @thenameplus431
    @thenameplus431 7 месяцев назад +7

    Here's a thought, how about flipping the leagues and then flipping the points, so you get more points for losing compared to winning

    • @chakitoooo
      @chakitoooo 7 месяцев назад

      WHAT?

    • @thenameplus431
      @thenameplus431 7 месяцев назад +8

      @@chakitoooo so it'd be 3 points for a loss, 1 for a draw as is, and 0 for a win

    • @chakitoooo
      @chakitoooo 7 месяцев назад

      @@thenameplus431 thanks. I wonder if it's possible with the editor...

    • @Rantasalmi47
      @Rantasalmi47 7 месяцев назад

      @@thenameplus431 someone did this in fm23. i believe its only possible by editting the points for losing to be 8 or something

    • @denja964
      @denja964 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@chakitooooit is

  • @user-yl5nh2nh1t
    @user-yl5nh2nh1t 6 месяцев назад

    Eastleigh ending up in national league south :(

  • @LordWay
    @LordWay 7 месяцев назад

    Exeter always get screwed in your simulations immedietly

  • @AJT-gj6mi
    @AJT-gj6mi 7 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe make the leagues the same as they were in a random season eg 1950/1951

    • @TH1RDP3RSON
      @TH1RDP3RSON 7 месяцев назад

      a lot of clubs from that time probably aren’t around anymore, also the league structure was wildly different

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  7 месяцев назад

      It's a cool idea, might need a whole new custom database for that though!

  • @Midtable1881
    @Midtable1881 7 месяцев назад +1

    Could you do this but with the Scottish leagues?

  • @Lemming.
    @Lemming. 7 месяцев назад

    0:43

  • @max82s
    @max82s 7 месяцев назад

    why does the premier league doesnt lose places for the international tournaments, because after those years the league cant be in the top4 of the uefa-five-year rankings.

  • @Fruits544
    @Fruits544 7 месяцев назад

    Love the videos

  • @LapliChungus1213
    @LapliChungus1213 4 месяца назад

    Liverpool got the deduction instead of man city😢😢

  • @davidphillips7857
    @davidphillips7857 6 месяцев назад

    I view this loads of times

  • @alexisauld7781
    @alexisauld7781 7 месяцев назад

    I think you need to somehow confine 'Man Sh*tty' et al in the lowest league for five years to let the other divs sort themselves out? It seems that every single one of these types of vids sees them just trampoline back up like nothing happened, and it just gets old tbh :/

  • @clembu2275
    @clembu2275 7 месяцев назад

    The disappointment of being a Saints fan, watching Saints power up through the leagues only to finish second in the Premier League in the only season they could have won it before Man City started dominating.

  • @Marco-hx8wf
    @Marco-hx8wf 7 месяцев назад

    you guessed everton -10 points

  • @MrGreen-ix5lj
    @MrGreen-ix5lj 6 месяцев назад

    y u doing spurs like that

  • @memeodi
    @memeodi 7 месяцев назад

    bradford in the prem😢😍

  • @dlewis1701
    @dlewis1701 7 месяцев назад +1

    So basically City will be near unbeatable in FM24

    • @SVAgxlxxi
      @SVAgxlxxi 7 месяцев назад

      unfortunately yes

  • @FootballHomeandAwaydays87
    @FootballHomeandAwaydays87 7 месяцев назад

    GAME???

  • @Tai849
    @Tai849 7 месяцев назад

    Nah how have southend got relegated first season 😭

  • @tyranttracergaming
    @tyranttracergaming 7 месяцев назад

    “Legue 2 clubs swapped with Championship”

  • @darliebb
    @darliebb 7 месяцев назад

    Why did you do my Oxford City so dirty haha saying that would be good to watch all those Prem sides at home :)

  • @jlwlol4084
    @jlwlol4084 7 месяцев назад +2

    Which app is this?

  • @joshcarberry4463
    @joshcarberry4463 7 месяцев назад

    Trent going to city 😂

  • @TheKazzerscout
    @TheKazzerscout 6 месяцев назад

    Why are Villa cursed

  • @aaronflatt3525
    @aaronflatt3525 7 месяцев назад

    If you know anything about luton you know they would be fine. Used to that sort of thing

  • @Thyme_gamer
    @Thyme_gamer 7 месяцев назад +2

    Could you rebuild barnsley fc after the lost the play off final in the 120+3 min to there rivals shefdield wednesday.

  • @dannyjesden1335
    @dannyjesden1335 7 месяцев назад

    1:20 actually its spelled : Ka-lei-znitsch on german/Austrian language but its not even for us easy to spell XD. Thanks for this cool video keep up your good work. Have a nice day.

    • @didrikmesicek4825
      @didrikmesicek4825 7 месяцев назад +1

      You mean pronounced and actually he was closer to being correct than your attempt is. I'm Balkan so I'd know. It's Kah-lie-jeech

    • @dannyjesden1335
      @dannyjesden1335 7 месяцев назад

      @@didrikmesicek4825 yeah i mean pronounced but in austria we dont talk like you from balkans do in austria we spell it like that maybe bc of our dialekt idk

    • @dannyjesden1335
      @dannyjesden1335 7 месяцев назад

      @@didrikmesicek4825 we either say ka-lei-jnitsch or Ka-lei-znitsch idk were you from but you know in austria nobody could say it like you wrote although its correct

    • @didrikmesicek4825
      @didrikmesicek4825 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@dannyjesden1335 None of you can say it yet you wanted to (incorrectly) correct him saying it? 😂
      For a Brit he says it surprisingly well. I have no idea why you're sticking an n in there. It's Kalajđić, not Kalajnđić

    • @dannyjesden1335
      @dannyjesden1335 7 месяцев назад

      @@didrikmesicek4825 XD Sry i just thought bc he is an austrian football player right now in the national team and its spelled like i wrote before in austria i just thought its the right way to say it. bc Sasa is in austrian sascha spelled

  • @haydenandhayden
    @haydenandhayden 7 месяцев назад +1

    Man city with their classic money cheats lmao

  • @JamieAubrey
    @JamieAubrey 7 месяцев назад +1

    Lets go Rangers 🔴⚪🔵

  • @Mojiatusv2
    @Mojiatusv2 7 месяцев назад

    Arsenal fans are already building protest 😂😂

  • @ATFC.OK23
    @ATFC.OK23 7 месяцев назад

    ALDERSHOT 🔴🔵

  • @BrentTharp
    @BrentTharp 7 месяцев назад

    Whoever signs Alisha Lehmann is taking it all. That transfer fee is going to be brutal, though.

  • @Pikachu0071000CS
    @Pikachu0071000CS 7 месяцев назад

    Proof that City need to be dropped below the National League and down to at least Step 3 for their financial crimes

  • @juanquinoneschumacero5699
    @juanquinoneschumacero5699 7 месяцев назад

    Lol

  • @margaretmorgan1771
    @margaretmorgan1771 27 дней назад

    Grimsby are the best team.

  • @franskmering
    @franskmering 7 месяцев назад

    CRUEL 🤣

  • @freezy2613
    @freezy2613 7 месяцев назад +1

    xd

  • @mosalah11thegoat
    @mosalah11thegoat 4 месяца назад +1

    oh for fucks sake why does this happen when northampton is league one couldnt you have made this video a uear ago? 😂😂

  • @_-_._-_._--.82
    @_-_._-_._--.82 7 месяцев назад

    100 comment

  • @coen_jacobs3113
    @coen_jacobs3113 7 месяцев назад +1

    57th

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM  7 месяцев назад +1

      My guy

  • @ayoutubechannel7143
    @ayoutubechannel7143 7 месяцев назад +1

    Love how you never mention any of MK Dons’ successes lmao. Fake club

  • @owenthfc9055
    @owenthfc9055 7 месяцев назад

    Your obsession with tottenham is a bit weird mate