British Soldier reacts to Nato's newest member Sweden packs a small but powerful military punch
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2024
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On combat experience... Sweden has combat experience from Mali, Afghanistan, Lybia. In former Yugoslavia the Swedes became famous for engaging hostiles in combat, going against UN orders. In the Congo, Swedish troops snd airpower fought actively against the various factions on behalf of the UN. And during the Winter War, alot of Swedish soldiers and pilots fought the Soviets.
So Swedish tactics, doctrine etc had been tested in deadly situations in modern conflicts since 1940. And it seems to work pretty well, even when fresh conscripts are deployed, relying on Swedish doctrine 😊
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I wish we/sweden were closer to Finland/Suomi´s way of decision making many times, but Sweden has some flaws and the word *consensus*.. Consensus leads to more thoughtful and sustainable decisions and reduces the number of conflicts. However, it can affect decision-making processes and efficiency by requiring time and commitment. In Sweden, consensus culture prevails in several contexts. Many... must be involved and like the decision. Finding the lagom in this is the key, maybe :-)
@@maxcore5815 Hi from Finland, i used to live in Söderhamn, small town in eastern coast. Pretty nice small town ,but i fucking hated the total lack of ability to make decisions. "vi måste diskutera om saken" and nothing happens except waste of time and loads of meaningless BS.
@@maxcore5815i doubt our defense are sleeping with their heads stuck up in the same arses as our politicians and regular ’Svenssons’
We also have 2 Blekinge-class submarines on order, which are the new generation of subs and also 4 new corvettes which will be bigger then the Visby-class! And we have also asked SAAB to start working on the next generation of subs, and research on next generation of air crafts (the air craft research was announced just a few days ago by SAAB)👌
yeah and of course the Gotland class submarines
Swede here! Really? I've missed that. Do you have a link about the new plane?
😂😂😂
@@concero2496Sesrch up SAAB Vampyren fighter jet
@@concero2496 RUclips doesn't like posting links, but search for "Saab får uppdrag av FMV - ska göra studie om framtidens stridsflyg" for the news article, the summary is that Saab has been tasked with doing a high-level study on what a next generation aircraft could be, so the plans are not that detailed yet.
There's A LOT of outdated numbers being put on display in this video.
Our submarines did sink a carrier in a simulated Exercise without getting caught and have done the same to other ships during exercise.
They didn't mention that Sweden is in the top 5 in the world when it comes to telecommunication and reconnaissance
Also 22,000 homeguard which a majority are reservists or old conscripts. The normal reservists are a Kader force of commanders in all levels where you can call up conscripts trained during former years to form new units.
No, not just decent submarines, subs that are the most quiet in the world and the only one that managed to sink Ronald Regan aircraft carrier 5 times in a training operation.
Im glad to see you like the gripen, it seems alot of people today are underestimating it.
1:42 The 4000 number is highly out of date, its about 6 years old. The conscription have been ramping up the last during that period and hit 6500 last year. Of cause, conscription is for the full armed forces, not only the army. It suppose to ramp up significantly and hit i think the target was 16 000 to 2026. The number of reservist is lower because there was the ability to opt out of the reserve as well, to my understanding that will also be change (of not already in place).
3:20 In the Swedish "Jägare" series they stated that there was only two places that educate "Jägare"... well.. two places in the army. "fältjägare" - "field hunter/ranger" and fjälljägare - "alp-hunter/ranger". But there is also a 3rd version. kustjägare, "coastal hunter/ranger". The thing is that the "Kustjägare" is educated by the navy, not the army. And the army/intelligence got/had (depending on how you see it) "fallskärmsjägare", basically "airborn hunter/ranger". It was canceled in 2004 and then reintroduced in a other format in 2008. They are no longer under the army command.
Navy also have conscript divers that are not under the "Jägare" category, but fairly similar. Its also a bit of pecking order and bantering where the other "Jägare" often calles the "fältjägare" for glorified infantry.
3:50 navy got sort of 5 submarines. 3 Gotland, and 2 upgraded södermanlands class (that also have Stirling power). One is layed up for decommissioning . The two Södermandsland class will be replaced by 2 blekinge class, again getting 5 submarines. THe first was layed down in 22 and the other in 23. THey should be ready for service in 27 and 28
Yeah several countries shave announced they are conscripting, seems everybody is gearing up for the Russo-Ukrainian war to escalate and spread to mainland Europe.
Yeah i believe the target for 2024 is 8000 conscripts, so it's scaling up rapidly!
I believe we have 5 ranger courses, Coastal rangers/Marine commandoes (kustjägare), Airborne rangers (fallskärmsjägare), Airbase/CSAR rangers (flygbasjägare), Light rangers/hunters (fältjägare K3) and Arctic rangers/Mountain rangers (Jägare & Bergsjägare K4)
@@zoega0850Air base hunters is the perfect example of "ranger inflation". I played football with arctic rangers, and worked with a true house cat of an air base "ranger". Those are not the same.
@@zoega0850 Right... yes, i forgot about the Flygbasjägare.. are they still in operation?
Can't relay remember for sure, but conscription had been disbanded just like 3 years prior.
It had been defacto voluntary since the big unit slughter around the millenial shift. When I did my mustering(testing) less than 1 in 10 got placements around that time.
A few years later the kids got a letter asking if they were interrested rather than an order to be at a mustering point ;)
”Allmän värnplikt”, or conscription was ended in 2010 in Sweden, so not that long ago.
it's not accurate, we still have 1.5m reserves from before we terminated the conscript system. only issue is that they are old in the ages of 35-50
Some errors to clarify:
1. It's wrong to say there are 11.5k "reservists" - that number refers to part-time employed soldiers (many of which are former full-time) or employed Reserve Officers.
As for reservists, there are many many thousands who have been trained throughout the years and who are assigned a deployment duty (i.e. position of service in case of war). This includes both trained soldiers and trained Reserve Officers who are not employed. There is no public data on these numbers because it's a military secret.
2. In addition to those numbers, there are also 22k officially serving in the National Guard.
3. This year 7k+ are going through their ~1 year conscription, i.e. almost double the mentioned number of 4k. (It is to be raised to 10k per year.)
Nonetheless, the volumes themselves are not as impressive as during the Cold War, when we could mobilise 800k pre-trained and equipped men at a population (incl. children and elderly) of ~7.6 million.
They will get more personal!
2018 for conscription start is not quite correct. Sweden has had some sort of conscription for about a century.
However in 2010 it was made voluntary/inactive. You had to call a recruiter yourself and announce your interest to be called up.
But then in 2018 general mandatory conscription for all Swedish youth was reinstated.
Also the personnel numbers in the video are outdated. The conscription number for 2023 was around 6 500, and we are now
increasing the conscription target to reach around 16 000 personnel in 2026.
P.S. the lads love your videos, and so do I. Cheers from Sweden!
Well, if needed they can put us old genX conscript farts in a trench. We can sit there, defending our country and complain about younger generations, sharing our love for old metal and grunge music.
You have to watch another swedish military series ” Vägen till stridspilot” ( Fighter pilot series ). Its amazing!!
Dude said "less than 20 seconds" about the archer, I said "wow" Just been checking it out "eight rounds per minute at ranges of up to 40 km" buying 14 to replace the AS90's that were "donated" to Ukraine.
Basically this move turns the Baltic sea into a NATO lake and locks the Russian Baltic sea fleet in port, much like their Black Sea fleet is now basically stuck in port.
We also bring : Nlaw, AT4, Rbs70NG, rbs17, Carl Gustaf 84mm M4, Bofors BONUS, RBS 15Mk4 gungir,Bofors STRIX, Globaleye (AEW&C), and Arthur Radar
Very well equipped
Hello there!
My son, who is a Sargent in the Swedish army had a couple of beers with the Brits that came to collect the Archers you've bought.
then Sweden has almost 300,000 registered hunters and they are very good at handling weapons. so the hunters can help defend Sweden very well.
Good pod but you missed one of the major benefits Sweden brings to NATO ... Yay Sweden! Sorry, my heritage is Swedish ... and that's the island of Gotland. Huge addition because because once NATO arms it, and with the subs, and with Denmark, the Baltic is a NATO lake and it controls who, and what, goes in and out. Thanks for the pod.
The Gripen E can carry 7 meteors. And yes, the Swedish army is equpped to the teeth. Tanks, IFV's, Artillery, Submarines, Naval assault craft, aerial assualt. They do not have combat helicopters. Mostly domestically produced, or by contract. And Ukraine is gifted parts of all of those, except the fighters and the submarines. And the fighters may come soon.
Sweden's obvious strength is they have/build all their own equipment/vehicles and kit. They are not reliant on outside countries and so in a War time scenario can supply themselves. Having their own gear also makes it harder for outside nations, to get a handle on their full military strength and capabilities.
Ur welcome Nato! Greetings from Sweden!
3:50
The Gotland class submarines are famous for sneaking past a whole US carrier group and into strike range of a US carrier during multiple exercises.
It's among the stealthiest subs in the world.
5:22
It's not *outright* better thrn the F35.
It's better in some areas.
But it depends on your metric.
If you pitch a equal number of F35 vs Gripens the F35 will probably come on top.
Likewise if you buy them for a equal sum.
However if you invest the same lifetime sum of money you can buy the Gripens and then operate them so much cheaper that you'll have more and more skilled pilots and can afford more planes in operation, meaning that you'd probably have a slight edge with the Gripen in the role it's designed for, defense of your home territory.
The F35 and Gripen is a bit apples vs oranges though, with different but complimentary capabilities.
The Gripen will have more uptime without being kept on the ground due to maintenance needs of the plane or the runway nearly as often.
In a prolonged war the F35 just can't be kept in the war as efficiently.
It's more vulnerable to ground strikes then the Gripen, and more expensive so harder to train a lot of well trained pilots with it.
The F35 has better range and stealth however.
The Gripen is better suited for a defensive frontline role, defending the airstrips further away from the front through hit and run tactics using random roads as runways.
While the F35 is better for strikes from further back all the way into enemy territory.
The Gripen might be anywhere and is equipped with long range meteor missiles denying huge areas of air from the enemy in the fog of war.
And with the F35 always being a potential reinforcement for the Grupen that also can make it seem like there's way more fighters in the air then there really is to enemy sensors...
The two planes each have their own ways of confusing the enemy and making their jobs more difficult.
The Gripen is a way better interceptor in the sense that you can afford to keep launching them throughout a war while the F35 can be a force multiplier when reinforcements are needed.
Sweden 😂😂😂 Har har Har 😂😂😂
Sweden's military was for a very, very, long time (talking hundreds of years) pretty much conscription-based (was just called something else). We have always had a standing army, but in the more moderns days (especially the Cold War) Sweden had about 20000 conscripts per year, and like Finland can today, Sweden could field about 1 million men in case of war. Some fascinating stuff if you want to dig into it.
Sweden has had conscription for 100 years more or less. During the Cold War Sweden trained 40,000 to 50,000 conscripts per year, roughly. And had the ability to call in 800,000 troops in short order
Wrong about combat experion, We have ben in many UN tasks. In Bosnia We took control over a smal town after UK and France trupps aboned when thet where attack by bandits.
Sweden increases the numbers of soldiers and conscripts alot right now
When I was a conscript in the 80s we could mobilize almost 1 million soldiers, and I think the correct number today is 64000 + home guard.
The Home Guard is around 25.000 personnel. So in all around 80.000 without summoning older conscripts.
Yes Göran. That is corect untill june 2000 we were about 1.000.000 soldiers that was the year the politichans put us down to a guard pluton. It was sad it cost a hughe amount mony that we once more now have to pay for the build up. Fight we can i know iv been there many years.😮
They say that Sweden has a small but strong military, BUT the numbers mentioned in the video are no longer correct. From the fall of 2024, 8,000 men and women will do their military service every year, then as it sounds from the government, the number who will do the military service will then increase to 10,000 per year. More regiments that were previously shut down will be reopened, including various special units. More men and women have applied to what in Sweden is called the Home Guard, these are the ones who will first face the enemy in the event of war, before the regular military has mobilized. The Home Guard are the ones who will protect important buildings and community functions.
In Sweden we have several units that go by the namn "Homeland soldiers" And these have a response time of 48 hours if someting happens like a threat from other country. They consist of approx at 22.000 soldiers, everything from the Navy, The Army and Arteleri so on. Around 8000 soldiers are trained each year. After the training 9 mounth - 14 mounth. You gona be assigned to a military unit. This means that you return to your normal lite and ockupation. But if some country attack Sweden, then the "Home Guard soldiers move out first. Like first defens unit at max 48 hours be in the front zone.
So Sweden have total around 240.000 soldiers home are trained to war to start up in a few days. Then we also have soldiers home are employees in the military and that nummer i can White here. Then we have soldiers in UN Soldiers home are in other country that can Come home
Ok brilliant thank you for the comment and information
Numbers are quite dated now. Things has happened since the video was produced.
not true sweden has over 30.000 reservists
much outdated information...
Sweden adds a lot of value to NATO and along with Finland creates a lovely irony to Putin's "special military operation" which was supposed to discourage NATO expansion. Great call, Vladdy!
you really dont wan´t to fight Vikings?
Not too sure about the numbers...
Sweden has full time soldiers and parttime soldiers. Ontop of that you have the Homeguard, roughly 25,000 strong.
I think the idea is for the Armed Forces to be 90k strong by 2030 (we'll see how that goes).
On conscription. They bring in around 6000 a year now, but intend to have 8000 by 2025 I think it is.
Now, this is where it gets interesting. These conscripts, 6000 to 8000, are handpicked out of a batch of 100,000 young adults each year. So they handpick the smartest, the most physically fit and the most motivated out of every generation (in theory). So those conscripts shpuld be the best soldiers available out of every generation. It is from these conscripts that the Armed Forces then recruit career soldiers (not exclusively). So if you recruit the best and willing from 8000 that were handpicked out of 100,000... you should have a pretty ok fighting force.
Obviously, you still lack the numbers for a prolonged war, this is true. But I doubt Sweden will return to training 50,000 conscripts per year like back in the 80s.
I believe our total number of trained soldiers that can be summoned in a time of war today is 800 000.
@@concero2496 from 1980 to 2020 I think its 300,000 that has done conscription. Most in the 80s, alot in the 90s, very few after 2000.
800,000 was the Cold War.
Off course, you can draft every man and woman in their 20s and 30s. But looking at conscripts, its 300,000
@@scruffy7760 Fuck, I read it wrong. My bad.
What is the actual reserve strength of the Swedish army?? Small jaeger forces are not enough. 🤔
If we call up the conscripts, which isn't part of our defence planning, hence not an official number we use, we could add another 250 000 men/women that have done their military service, some repetition educational training, but been off the role call for the last 14 years.
Also, every man above 50 have a solid military training since "the old" conscription, whatever that's worth...
Nothing. I´m fat no stamina and my knees hurt.
Tomato tometo.. Look at hockey or like skiing.. small countries can do ALOT. The North by history arent to be taken gently and has never been.
Truth is that we have a lot of nice stuff but to little of everything. 1,5 brigade thats it. The air force is competent but to small and have few weapons. The fleet have no anti aircraft missiles. And the politicians just talk a lot of shit.
F-35 fires Meteor missiles too. And the meteor out ranges the Aim-120, not the Aim-260, and when you use the meteor at its outer range limits, the batteries die and it goes dumb....chemical batteries. Plus, yes, the Gripen carries the same amount of air-to-air missiles as the F-35, internally, then you can add even more externally to the F-35, but who's counting?
Aim-260 is still in development and actual performance is right now just wishes and speculation.
F-35 is projected to be able to use Meteor later this decade, but can't right now.
Using external stores with F-35 would take away it's main feature, stealth.
Not yet. The Meteor, in its common version, don't fit the internal weapon bay of the F35. Thus the modified version, for that reason, needs more time before being mission-ready. The common version can be carried under the wing of the F35. For that, Lockheed only needs the software integration. Since the F35 doesn't have a split between the flight critical and the management system that takes time too as any integration needs to be tested and certified.
The army used to be like the Finnish one, basically.. An absolute trvesty how the politicians downsized it (and massimported muslims instead)
poweful? how?😂
Mainly regional (Baltic Sea) where Sweden alone could contest Russia in the air and at sea thanks to a very capable airforce and state of the art submarines, combined with very high tech torpedoes, air to air missiles and antiship missiles.
Groundforces are a bit small, sure, but Sweden has hundreds of CV90s. And in Ukraine, Russia deploys T90 tanks, the best equipment they have, to counter CV90s. And CV90s are IFVs, not even tanks.
These numbers are outdated
I seriously doubt these liberals are going to be of any use
😂😂😂 15,000 😂😂😂 New Zealand has more troops 😂😂😂
Its vastly miss calculated. We have about 800k military educated people, easily mobilized.
@@BerishStarrReally?? 🤔
Are well hidden because they are never mentioned anywhere.
The video is not correct with its information.
The Swedish Armed Forces are made up of 24,400 active personnel, 11,400 military reserves, 21,500 Home Guard and 5,200 additional conscripts yearly into the Reserves (set to increase to 8,000 conscripts yearly by 2024) as of 2022.
With the recent massive increase in military spending (dubbled in the past couple of years, aimed to be 2.1% of GDP by the end of this year) You can count on that number being even higer than that as we speak, and drastically increase in the following years.
Also worth mentioning is that our military is based and constructed on needing fewer personel, take the rearming of a Gripen that can be done in
If you stand-up the two countries,,, NZ would lose.