One correction, with latest firmware update it IS possible to adjust parametric EQ frequencies to what ever frequency you like, they are not fixed to certain frequency point.
Judging from the video content I was thinking you may have had the ability to change the frequencies in the PEQ already - When you show the PEQ screen at 8:47, at the bottom of the screen are 3 options - The first one “F” I’m guessing is Frequency as it says 1000.0 and has a “-“ to the left of it and a “+” to the right (same with Gain and Q options on bottom). So it looks like you select the point on the graph (as you did), which activated the 1000Hz frequency range, then you can use “-“ and “+” to alter the frequency as well as changing the Gain and Q setting for that PEQ adjustment. Hard to explain in text, but hope you get the idea? Hope that helps 👍
I have been an audiophile for 50 years. Your reviews are so honest and precise Its comforting to know you can get a professional and honest product evaluation. Thank you.. Steve.
This is a proper review. Every other reviewer said the preamp stage was excellent, one such reviewer has experience with pass labs gear. I appreciate the fact you were able to honestly tell us it was not up to the standard of an entry level preamp. Excellent work.
@@dajikbatarang1 LB is his best budget recommendation yes. Some find it removing to much both top and bottom end. I'm going to try it in my lower end setup. It has a tad to bright sound and a bit of a boomy base. Should be a good match. Some prefer A8's sound for other purposes. Basically A8 is a decent entery level preamp, good dac and excellent streamer. In other words a excellent product for most. Proper review unlike others ? They try to explain their experiences with new equipment . Getting new gear I often get carried away too and maybe it matches my setup better then someone else's. Just try to use the tests information for your best experience and don't be so occupied with who is right or wrong. Sound is a personal experience and this are great products with high value for money. It's a great time to be a audiophile 😉
Never forget that things sound different in different rooms too. Using Buchardt I150 as a preamp with room correction gave me goose bumps in my higher end setup. Got it used for 1200$. Wonder if Mads will make a pure pre.
This is the most helpful and informative review I've seen of this unit and your comparisons to the family of streamers from Eversolo. Thank you so much.
Great review. Eversolo should come out a pure streamer/transport/file server without the DAC and Pre-amp; and having the BEST sound quality. It is for those audiophiles who already have separate DAC, Pre-amp etc.
@@Pete.across.the.street the RS130 looks superb, I agree. An eversolo equivalent incl with internal OCXO & external clock input, but at Eversolo pricing levels, would be very tempting indeed.
Excellent review, I’ve been watching your reviews for a few months now and am always impressed with the insight you give on the pieces of gear and it’s much appreciated.
well man you saved me 2k usd!!! I planned to use the Eversolo as a preamp replacing my 15 years old Jeff Rowland Capri b/c other reviewers said it was on par with pass labs stuff... 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾
This is by far the most unbias review of the Eversolo products, thank you. My reference system is an Accuphase E-4000 with a Cary Audio DMS-700 and Marantz SA-10 SACD player driving T+A Criterion loudspeakers. I've been build a secondary system using an Advanced Paris Audio A-12 and was thinking about, after all rave reviews, pairing it with the DMP-A8. Your honest review has given me pause to research a bit more.
I was hoping the preamp would be transparent and support a turntable as well as digital sources. A separate preamp sounds like the way to go. Thanks for another candid assessment.
Excellent review. So many reviewers give no justification for their comments in regards to what they hear, just meaningless words like "better, fuller" etc.". You described differences in what you heard, separation, depth, width, tonal accuracy, soundstage, etc. That is what we need from a review. Thank you. Many potential buyers likely own better DACs already than what is inside the A6, for sure, and likely the A8 as well. The same likely goes for a pre-amp. A lot of us have them in our 2 channel systems already, but may still be looking for a high quality streaming source to add to it. Something to replace a computer or entry level streamer perhaps. So, as many others have commented, I wish they would also make the effort to build the best stand alone streamer they can and, like the A6/8, at a reasonable price. Give it the upgraded femto clocks, I2S digital out, a top shelf power supply, control it with a high performance GUI and just drop the DAC and analog sections altogether to keep the price affordable. If they kept it under 1,000 USD/Euro, they truly would have no competition. Keep the A6/A8 for customers that do need a DAC or DAC/Preamp. As offered, the 2.25x price of the A8 over the A6 as a stand alone streamer is a tough call for me.
I totally agree! The A8 is an interesting device, but for many it is really over-equipped, while the A6 is hardly an ideal streamer, since it has an extremely limited set of digital outputs (and at the same time we still have to pay for the built-in DAC, and ideally also pay extra for the Master Ed. and a linear power supply). So yes, a purely digital device with the richest possible set of digital outputs (it could be called D - from the word Digital, whereas the A-series is Analog), equip with a clean power source, and just leave everything else as it is.
Due to your prior excellent video regarding the Volumio Rivo I would much prefer that over these other "one box" solutions. A dedicated digital streamer such as the Volumio would much better serve my needs, as I have built a system around separate components. Currently I am using a WiiM Pro Plus with an Allo Nirvana power supply. So were I to 'upgrade' then a Volumio Rivo would be a much more reasonable purchase.
Maybe there is a DNP-10 coming with a much improved Pre-amplifier for $3000 to $4000. Then it would be a truly hi-end audiophile product. Love your work, thanks for doing what you do.
I’m buying the A6 Masters Edition to use til I can get my hands on a A8 . I like all in one setup . I don’t have a audiophile ear but pretty good. My devices aren’t the best either . I think the A6 will be nice for my Onkyo AVR paired with Focals . I want the A8 to connect with my Rotel 1591 MKII paired with Polk R700s . Love your channel just subscribed . Very detailed review . Thank you and great success with your platform
@@Pete.across.the.street I hope so as in my retirement my money tree has died . But I love the sound out of my big Polks. If I get the A8 version in February or march I’ll put the A6 on my Onkyo rz50 , Focal Chora and SVS 1000 sub . For my old ears it will be awesome but maybe not for someone with more accuse ears . Cheers across the street
Thank you for the comparisons, it really is vital! If you are looking for an all in one the A8 is is a contender, but if you are trying to put together a system to achieve the best sound possible for the least amount of expenditure, the DAC and the pre-amp in the A8 become redundant. I would tend to go with DSP (Leedh processing) for volume control if you are on a budget.
I much appriciate your reviews since allo usb bridge. Your conclusion on A8 using it as preamp, leaves me a little helples as to my interest it would be beneficial to USE A8´s and also A6 ´s DIGITAL INPUT, like for example with CD transport or other streamer, to really find out how the internal DAC (´s) is (are) performing. Thanks and stay healthy :)
If you want your preamp to add color, don't use the preamp. If you wish for transparent straight-wire performance with no added noise, the A8 is fantastic.
I wonder if the A6 Master Edition w/linear power supply closes the gap in SQ even more that the a6 Standard w/LPS? You mention as a streamer and also with the DAC engaged the LPS allows the A6 to compete in tone and texture with the A8, but not in staging. Just wondering if the A6 ME widens the soundstage over the SE enough to close that gap a bit with the A8?
Your comment that just "enabling" EQ/DSP without actually changing anything "negatively" influences "fidelity" is a point most overlooked by many RUclipsrs and on-line "guru's" IME.
Both devices if used only as a streamer I believe they have the same audio quality. The difference is if they are also used as a DAC, in which case the new analog and digital sections of the A8 outperform the A6 streamer. Since I only need a streamer, I decided on the A6, which has one advantage that the A8 does not have, which is an HDMI multichannel audio output.
Anyone using the PEQ, you must adjust the DSP gain to avoid nasty random clipping sounds. Even if you adjust the low frequency down you need to adjust the DSP gain. Took me a while to realise that was needed. I’ve set my DSP gain at -4.5 to stop the clipping distortion noises.
Great review! Love the way you broke it out to compare the streamer only, DAC only, preamp only and then all together. Seems like a great streamer and DAC for a very reasonable price. I wonder how it compares to the HIFI Rose 250 or 150? The 250 is about the same price. Also, just watched a great review on the Orchard Audio Pecan Pi+. Can the Pecan Pi+ compete with this or the Rivo? I personally am looking for the best reasonably priced streamer under $2K to pair with a Gustard R26 / Denafrips Pontus ii DAC and Audio Research Preamp. Which one do you think would be best for me?
Really SO appreciate your attention to detail and how comprehensively you approach pairings. Removes the guess work in so many ways. Argh! I wish Eversolo would also release transports without the dac at a price competitive with the Rivo (or others similar). But I suppose they'd lose money doing so?.
I have to say that would be my dearest wish as well... I have an iFi Zen stream with a Denafrips DDC Iris ($800) and a Denafrips Pontus 2 DAC, 12th anniv. ($2800). The sound is superb, but the $400 iFi is not up to par with the other components... I'm looking for a streamer without a DAC. There is the Volumio Rivo, but the choice of a streamer WITHOUT DAC is rather limited... The Denafrips Arce does not yet have the Tidal signal...
The only thing missing from this excellent review is how the DAC portion of this unit compares the Gustard A26 and how the sound of this device compares with the Eversolo A6 ME.
I enjoy your reviews. Your are well listened, know your music, and present remarkable reviews in I assume a 2nd language. Thank You I will wait until the initial A8 purchase rush is done, I want to know how the NAD M66 sounds. I am well invested in Bluos devices already. Please review it as soon as you get one.
Absolutely outstanding review as always...thank you. I think the combinations of a WiiM Pro Plus with Linear Power supply, paired with the Gustard R26, would out perform the DMP-A8. This is my game plan. I also think we can look forward to another Master Edition in the A8 coming soon.
That might be a little wishful thinking. I think the Wiim has more sonic limitations than just a power supply swap can fix. But if you actually try both let us know.
@Pete.across.the.street of course a power supply change will make a difference. In fact, if you watched iiWi's review of the WiiM Pro Plus, he mentioned that with an upgraded power supply, the digital platform of the WiiM sounds "richer, cleaner and more 3 dimensional" and he would rate the digital platform on the same level as the digital platform of the A6. That paired with the R26's superior DAC should make it a better sounding solution.
@@grantdwillemse21 I know it will make an improvement. I am saying there's other parts of the Wiim holding back the sound quality. Even with the LPS, it's probably not going to be on the same level as a higher end streamer.
@@Pete.across.the.street I hear you my good Sir . I know it won't with just the LPS, but paring it with the Gustard R26 will make a big diff....this is all just pure speculation on my side of course 😅 and I'm by NO means able to purchase either DMP-A8 or Gustard to test. LOL but I live in hope that iiWi will do a comparison for us.
@@grantdwillemse21 yeah that's true. Should be a pretty good combo. The Wiim aren't bad, they just have their limitations even with a great power supply.
Once again a fair and honest review. My experience: I bought the A8 and returned it immediately as the DAC section, exactly as said in the review, is below par and very (imo) weak compared to R26. My point in general is that A8 does too many things to be used as a Streamer (DAC not used, R2R volume attenuator/preamp not used). Also when used as a streamer the digital attenuator (unless I did something wrong) has only 15 steps. I would not recommend this product
Thanks for the detailed review. I was considering this unit alongside external dac so I could have less boxes since it has an integrated pre-amp. However, I don't think the integrated pre will do my nice dac and nice power amp justice. The search continues...perhaps a Holoaudio Serene.
Hi! I am struggling to find a sound-Upgrade to my current system without spending a leg and arm. It"s a ifi zen stream in exclusive DLNA Mode with a LPS, connected via USB to a Chord Qutest, also with LPS. As far as i understand your review, the DMP-A8 probably would not be the sound upgrade i am seeking?
I wonder how do you bypass the pre-amp section. If you use the XLR output does it go through the internal pre-amp circuit? If that could be done, it would be awesome, and it can go straight into my McIntosh pre-amp.
I think you have to use the digital outputs to circumvent the pre-amp stage. So USB, AES, coax and go to an external DAC. I would buy an A8 or A6 as streamer only.
Great video. Thank you. I would like to connect the Eversolo DMP-A8 Streamer with the KEF LS60 speakers. Do I need any additional hardware to play Hi-Res Audio via Apple Music? Sorry, I'm not an expert in this area.
Solid, professional review. You got a new subscriber. English is a second language to me too, so I humbly suggest you force yourself to add the article "the" to specific substantives like A8, A6, DSP, etc.
Thanks! As for the articles, yeah. I'm a natural Tarzan, especially while my mind is crunching on something else, and can't simultaneously pay active attention to grammar. But I'll keep giving it the old college try.
I noticed quite the difference between the a6 (normal) and a8 through usb digital, connected at a chord tt2+mscaler. So much that with the a8 I liked the combi, with the a6 I did not. They say there is not much difference digital, but why was the a8 way more dynamic, full sounding. It should not matter through usb, but it did. So is it clocks, changes power supply. I don’t know quite annoyed it made such a big difference. The a8 analogue is better than the a6, but won’t use that, neither then pre out. So than you pay way more for just the better digital. But a6 I did not like, not analogue not digital
Many of potential buyers already have a very good DAC and preamp. Hope Eversolo and Wiim can make the streamer only unit for less money and better performance. It is a waste of money buying streamer with inferior quality DAC or preamp built in.
I was going to get this to replace my PS Audio Stellar Gain Cell DAC/pre (and Node 2), but I was thinking it may best to keep the PSA SGCD and use it as a pre and A8 as DAC and streamer. Thoughts?
I don't have any experience with PS Stellar Gain Cell so it's difficult to give any advice in this case. If I have to make an educated guess, I would say that you won't need to keep it. A8 has a very good DAC.
Great review as always. I think you may have been referring to Steve Huff when you commented on the reviewer but not sure. If so, I really like Steve but I think he's a little out of touch with how he classifies the quality or label of audio components because he spent so much time playing with and owning super expensive gear for so long. Only in the last year has he started to embrace more "affordable" gear and he's still not quite labeling the gear right.
Hugo 2 absolutely demolishes the A6 SE. Not in the same league. A8 seems it would be closer but I highly doubt it's the same. SS talks about categorically subtle improvements from A6 -> A8.
After watching reviews of A8 and finding out that it has band equalizers, I went to settings in my A6 and for short period of time it also had band equalizers😊 . Couple days later it disappeared. I reached out to eversolo and they denied that band eq was never available on A6 and to show them pictures or video of that. Unfortunately I do not have any evidence of that but I was happy for that couple of days tinkering with eq. Unfortunately it was removed, I assume with an update. I wish they kept it and had it available on A6. Did any of you guys also experienced band eq on eversolo dmp-A6 for short period of time?
It would be neck to neck. It's more about personal taste really. I would maybe rather go for A8 because it's a bit smoother and more refined (which I like) compared to slightly sharper and brighter A26.
Interesting review. I'm currently running the Naim ND5 XS2 as an all-in-one streamer/DAC. I would be interested if you (or anyone else) has a view on how the A8 would compare in terms of sound quality in the same all-in-one streamer DAC configuration? cheers
I have and NDX2 + XPS-DR and have heard the ND5 XS32 many times (nearly bought one). If you appreciate the fullness and refinement that you get with the ND5 XS2, the A6 and A8 will sound bleached and color-less to you in comparison.
I'll add that if you want a solid sound upgrade and are using a Naim preamp/integrated, get a Gothic Audio ELLA 5-pin DIN interconnect cable. Very close to Witch Hat Morgana levels of performance for about half the price (before WH went under). Even when using Preh-DIN connectors.
I'm sure they have no comparison possible. Wiim pro/ pro plus is a great streamer and great value but one has to be serious...it's a HUGE price difference, A8 is a lot more complex, featured piece of gear. A8 has to be at leats two tiers above wiim current products.
@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh I have some WiiM streamers and you are correct. They are great values but not "giant killers". You actually do get more for your money sometimes in audio gear, you just have to be careful and read a lot of reviews. I would wonder how the A8 compares to streamers by Innuos.
@@rosswarren436 i think they are giant killers and put up a good fight with units costing 2 times maybe 3 times as much. But not like...10 times as much. There would have to be something very wrong with the company releasing such products.
One thing the Eversolo crowd shares with the McIntosh crowd, they are Defensive on their products. You think this was the 1st streamer made? And with the Power Supply upgrades offered for the A6/ME, that's like talking about Recapping or Power/RCA cable upgrades. Thanks for the reviews as you are Very Important in keeping these reviews real.
Not really true. Tarun (A British Audiophile, is his channel) measured A6 with LPS and compared it with A8 on its own. The A6/LPS combo was better than just A6, but still harsh and metallic on the upper end than A8.
Great insights! Thank you brother! I wonder if i should consider this for my Hegel H390 integrated amp for the network transport as i love the DAC in the H390. Would you recommend that? Appreciate your thoughts 🙏🏼
@@tomislavvukusic5051 it could be awesome. Btw I've decided to go for a gustard r26 alone. Later I will seek for a streamer. Maybe some pure streamer with a good screen will come out for a decent price. Something without pre or Dac in it..
Without questioning the review conclusions, I'd still appreciate if someone explains what makes digital USB output of one streamer better than another one. Each of the two receives exactly the same compressed audio stream, decodes it into PCM (which must be exactly the same in both cases) and sends it over USB to a DAC.
Better timing (better clocks/less digital noise), Less analog noise ( which flows on the USB cable to the DAC and shows up in the analog signal after conversion)
I noticed quite the difference between the a6 (normal) and a8 through usb digital, connected at a chord tt2+mscaler. So much that with the a8 I liked the combi, with the a6 I did not. They say there is not much difference digital, but why was the a8 way more dynamic, full sounding. It should not matter through usb, but it did. So is it clocks, changes power supply. I don’t know quite annoyed it made such a big difference. The a8 analogue is better than the a6, but won’t use that, neither then pre out. So than you pay way more for just the better digital. But a6 I did not like, not analogue not digital. Even my wife heared it easily, and that says something, because she really, rreaaalllyy doesn’t care about hifi
Becoming a fan of your channel , Is A6 with upgraded lps or with out lps as a streamer with gustard r26 better than a A8 or a ifi zen streamer with a r26 compare to a A8
have you had a chans to listen to the dmp-a6 master edition?, for me it was i nice step up from standard a6 now thinking about lps for it, have a nice vincent sa-94 preamp so no need to pay for extra funktions that whould not be used.
One correction, with latest firmware update it IS possible to adjust parametric EQ frequencies to what ever frequency you like, they are not fixed to certain frequency point.
That's great news. I've updated it recently but haven't checked that part. I'll pin this comment.
Judging from the video content I was thinking you may have had the ability to change the frequencies in the PEQ already - When you show the PEQ screen at 8:47, at the bottom of the screen are 3 options - The first one “F” I’m guessing is Frequency as it says 1000.0 and has a “-“ to the left of it and a “+” to the right (same with Gain and Q options on bottom). So it looks like you select the point on the graph (as you did), which activated the 1000Hz frequency range, then you can use “-“ and “+” to alter the frequency as well as changing the Gain and Q setting for that PEQ adjustment. Hard to explain in text, but hope you get the idea? Hope that helps 👍
Need to be sure to adjust the DSP gain to avoid nasty clipping sounds.
I have been an audiophile for 50 years. Your reviews are so honest and precise Its comforting to know you can get a professional and honest product evaluation. Thank you.. Steve.
This is a proper review. Every other reviewer said the preamp stage was excellent, one such reviewer has experience with pass labs gear. I appreciate the fact you were able to honestly tell us it was not up to the standard of an entry level preamp. Excellent work.
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It's easily as good as entry level preamps 😉. What do you define as entry level preamps?
@@wegardfjeld3789 That ladder preamp that was recently reviewed.
@@dajikbatarang1 LB is his best budget recommendation yes. Some find it removing to much both top and bottom end. I'm going to try it in my lower end setup. It has a tad to bright sound and a bit of a boomy base. Should be a good match.
Some prefer A8's sound for other purposes. Basically A8 is a decent entery level preamp, good dac and excellent streamer. In other words a excellent product for most. Proper review unlike others ? They try to explain their experiences with new equipment . Getting new gear I often get carried away too and maybe it matches my setup better then someone else's. Just try to use the tests information for your best experience and don't be so occupied with who is right or wrong. Sound is a personal experience and this are great products with high value for money. It's a great time to be a audiophile 😉
Never forget that things sound different in different rooms too. Using Buchardt I150 as a preamp with room correction gave me goose bumps in my higher end setup. Got it used for 1200$. Wonder if Mads will make a pure pre.
I hope that Eversolo comes out with the streaming section the A8 as a standalone device.
yes like the hifi rose rs-130
@@junior-OGNot the
same price category.
This is the most helpful and informative review I've seen of this unit and your comparisons to the family of streamers from Eversolo. Thank you so much.
Great review. Eversolo should come out a pure streamer/transport/file server without the DAC and Pre-amp; and having the BEST sound quality. It is for those audiophiles who already have separate DAC, Pre-amp etc.
I would love to see that too.
HiFi Rose RS130 is what you want
@@Pete.across.the.street the RS130 looks superb, I agree. An eversolo equivalent incl with internal OCXO & external clock input, but at Eversolo pricing levels, would be very tempting indeed.
Check Matrix Element S if you wish.
@@Pete.across.the.streetTotally different price tier.
your reviews are great. so articulate, thorough yet clear and engaging.
Excellent review, I’ve been watching your reviews for a few months now and am always impressed with the insight you give on the pieces of gear and it’s much appreciated.
Good job done ! I am waiting for Eversolo to produce a Streamer only product !
Good. Me too...
well man you saved me 2k usd!!! I planned to use the Eversolo as a preamp replacing my 15 years old Jeff Rowland Capri b/c other reviewers said it was on par with pass labs stuff... 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾
well the preamp is great in fact...
This is by far the most unbias review of the Eversolo products, thank you. My reference system is an Accuphase E-4000 with a Cary Audio DMS-700 and Marantz SA-10 SACD player driving T+A Criterion loudspeakers. I've been build a secondary system using an Advanced Paris Audio A-12 and was thinking about, after all rave reviews, pairing it with the DMP-A8. Your honest review has given me pause to research a bit more.
I was hoping the preamp would be transparent and support a turntable as well as digital sources. A separate preamp sounds like the way to go. Thanks for another candid assessment.
Danke!
Thanks for your support!
@@iiWiReviews You're welcome!
This is the best review I have seen of this streamer/DAC, thank you!
Excellent review. So many reviewers give no justification for their comments in regards to what they hear, just meaningless words like "better, fuller" etc.". You described differences in what you heard, separation, depth, width, tonal accuracy, soundstage, etc. That is what we need from a review. Thank you.
Many potential buyers likely own better DACs already than what is inside the A6, for sure, and likely the A8 as well. The same likely goes for a pre-amp. A lot of us have them in our 2 channel systems already, but may still be looking for a high quality streaming source to add to it. Something to replace a computer or entry level streamer perhaps. So, as many others have commented, I wish they would also make the effort to build the best stand alone streamer they can and, like the A6/8, at a reasonable price. Give it the upgraded femto clocks, I2S digital out, a top shelf power supply, control it with a high performance GUI and just drop the DAC and analog sections altogether to keep the price affordable. If they kept it under 1,000 USD/Euro, they truly would have no competition. Keep the A6/A8 for customers that do need a DAC or DAC/Preamp. As offered, the 2.25x price of the A8 over the A6 as a stand alone streamer is a tough call for me.
I totally agree! The A8 is an interesting device, but for many it is really over-equipped, while the A6 is hardly an ideal streamer, since it has an extremely limited set of digital outputs (and at the same time we still have to pay for the built-in DAC, and ideally also pay extra for the Master Ed. and a linear power supply). So yes, a purely digital device with the richest possible set of digital outputs (it could be called D - from the word Digital, whereas the A-series is Analog), equip with a clean power source, and just leave everything else as it is.
having been saving up for A6 upgraded version and A8 is produced to lure us more. Personally I prefers A6😅
Due to your prior excellent video regarding the Volumio Rivo I would much prefer that over these other "one box" solutions. A dedicated digital streamer such as the Volumio would much better serve my needs, as I have built a system around separate components. Currently I am using a WiiM Pro Plus with an Allo Nirvana power supply. So were I to 'upgrade' then a Volumio Rivo would be a much more reasonable purchase.
I came to a similar conclusion and finally bought a Lindemann Limetree Bridge II. I strongly recommend that based on my first impressions
@@fstrati what gear have you had that you can compare it against?
Great and honest review as always! 😊 Thanks a lot 🙏 for this very thorough and thoughtful review!
Maybe there is a DNP-10 coming with a much improved Pre-amplifier for $3000 to $4000.
Then it would be a truly hi-end audiophile product. Love your work, thanks for doing what you do.
that would be really nice... killer product
😂😂😂😂 nice one. Upgrading the same product without offering a real upgrade. Just price increament.
Almost one Year later here it is. Audiophile Nostradamus.😂
Very nice review and I appreciate the comparisons.
Great review. Thank you. Mine's shipping from Canada to US this week. Can't wait.
Hmm.Great review.I think I;d take the 6 with upgraded PSU and use a Lab12 tube pre.Waiting for the DMP 6 to get a eArc in version 2
I’m buying the A6 Masters Edition to use til I can get my hands on a A8 . I like all in one setup . I don’t have a audiophile ear but pretty good. My devices aren’t the best either . I think the A6 will be nice for my Onkyo AVR paired with Focals . I want the A8 to connect with my Rotel 1591 MKII paired with Polk R700s . Love your channel just subscribed . Very detailed review . Thank you and great success with your platform
Sounds like a good combo.
@@Pete.across.the.street I hope so as in my retirement my money tree has died . But I love the sound out of my big Polks. If I get the A8 version in February or march I’ll put the A6 on my Onkyo rz50 , Focal Chora and SVS 1000 sub . For my old ears it will be awesome but maybe not for someone with more accuse ears . Cheers across the street
Thank you for the comparisons, it really is vital! If you are looking for an all in one the A8 is is a contender, but if you are trying to put together a system to achieve the best sound possible for the least amount of expenditure, the DAC and the pre-amp in the A8 become redundant. I would tend to go with DSP (Leedh processing) for volume control if you are on a budget.
I much appriciate your reviews since allo usb bridge. Your conclusion on A8 using it as preamp, leaves me a little helples as to my interest it would be beneficial to USE A8´s and also A6 ´s DIGITAL INPUT, like for example with CD transport or other streamer, to really find out how the internal DAC (´s) is (are) performing. Thanks and stay healthy :)
Thanks!! Personaly.. you are my favourite reviewer
If you want your preamp to add color, don't use the preamp. If you wish for transparent straight-wire performance with no added noise, the A8 is fantastic.
I wonder if the A6 Master Edition w/linear power supply closes the gap in SQ even more that the a6 Standard w/LPS? You mention as a streamer and also with the DAC engaged the LPS allows the A6 to compete in tone and texture with the A8, but not in staging. Just wondering if the A6 ME widens the soundstage over the SE enough to close that gap a bit with the A8?
Great review! Thanks for sharing.
Fantastic review. Thank you!
Excellent review!
Your comment that just "enabling" EQ/DSP without actually changing anything "negatively" influences "fidelity" is a point most overlooked by many RUclipsrs and on-line "guru's" IME.
It's true in Roon and it's 10000% true here. Great point.
Both devices if used only as a streamer I believe they have the same audio quality. The difference is if they are also used as a DAC, in which case the new analog and digital sections of the A8 outperform the A6 streamer. Since I only need a streamer, I decided on the A6, which has one advantage that the A8 does not have, which is an HDMI multichannel audio output.
He said they didn't have the same audio quality in the review, when used only as a streamer.
Anyone using the PEQ, you must adjust the DSP gain to avoid nasty random clipping sounds. Even if you adjust the low frequency down you need to adjust the DSP gain. Took me a while to realise that was needed. I’ve set my DSP gain at -4.5 to stop the clipping distortion noises.
Great review! Love the way you broke it out to compare the streamer only, DAC only, preamp only and then all together. Seems like a great streamer and DAC for a very reasonable price. I wonder how it compares to the HIFI Rose 250 or 150? The 250 is about the same price. Also, just watched a great review on the Orchard Audio Pecan Pi+. Can the Pecan Pi+ compete with this or the Rivo? I personally am looking for the best reasonably priced streamer under $2K to pair with a Gustard R26 / Denafrips Pontus ii DAC and Audio Research Preamp. Which one do you think would be best for me?
It makes me wonder, while I would like to upgrade, how soon before the A10 comes out of an A10 Master Edition?
Does the DMP-A8 work via I2S with your Gustard R26?
Really SO appreciate your attention to detail and how comprehensively you approach pairings. Removes the guess work in so many ways. Argh! I wish Eversolo would also release transports without the dac at a price competitive with the Rivo (or others similar). But I suppose they'd lose money doing so?.
I have to say that would be my dearest wish as well... I have an iFi Zen stream with a Denafrips DDC Iris ($800) and a Denafrips Pontus 2 DAC, 12th anniv. ($2800). The sound is superb, but the $400 iFi is not up to par with the other components...
I'm looking for a streamer without a DAC. There is the Volumio Rivo, but the choice of a streamer WITHOUT DAC is rather limited... The Denafrips Arce does not yet have the Tidal signal...
I have orderd an A8, and a iFi Audio Pro iCAN Signature. I think that can be a nice combo, as there are meny settings on the amp to! Mvh/Peter
I’d use the iFi as the preamp. It’s incredibly good.
The only thing missing from this excellent review is how the DAC portion of this unit compares the Gustard A26 and how the sound of this device compares with the Eversolo A6 ME.
Sounds excellent to me.
hi, A6 as a streamer with Gustard R26 as a dac are better than A8?
Holoaudio Red sreamer with Gustard R26 should be killer combo
I enjoy your reviews. Your are well listened, know your music, and present remarkable reviews in I assume a 2nd language. Thank You
I will wait until the initial A8 purchase rush is done, I want to know how the NAD M66 sounds. I am well invested in Bluos devices already. Please review it as soon as you get one.
Good review. I would also like to see an eversolo dac z6 review.
Absolutely outstanding review as always...thank you. I think the combinations of a WiiM Pro Plus with Linear Power supply, paired with the Gustard R26, would out perform the DMP-A8. This is my game plan. I also think we can look forward to another Master Edition in the A8 coming soon.
That might be a little wishful thinking. I think the Wiim has more sonic limitations than just a power supply swap can fix. But if you actually try both let us know.
@Pete.across.the.street of course a power supply change will make a difference. In fact, if you watched iiWi's review of the WiiM Pro Plus, he mentioned that with an upgraded power supply, the digital platform of the WiiM sounds "richer, cleaner and more 3 dimensional" and he would rate the digital platform on the same level as the digital platform of the A6. That paired with the R26's superior DAC should make it a better sounding solution.
@@grantdwillemse21 I know it will make an improvement. I am saying there's other parts of the Wiim holding back the sound quality. Even with the LPS, it's probably not going to be on the same level as a higher end streamer.
@@Pete.across.the.street I hear you my good Sir . I know it won't with just the LPS, but paring it with the Gustard R26 will make a big diff....this is all just pure speculation on my side of course 😅 and I'm by NO means able to purchase either DMP-A8 or Gustard to test. LOL but I live in hope that iiWi will do a comparison for us.
@@grantdwillemse21 yeah that's true. Should be a pretty good combo. The Wiim aren't bad, they just have their limitations even with a great power supply.
Thanks Srboljub! How does the RME ADI-2 compare as a preamp? Your impressions of it seemed quite a bit better.
Also interested in this.
Once again a fair and honest review. My experience: I bought the A8 and returned it immediately as the DAC section, exactly as said in the review, is below par and very (imo) weak compared to R26. My point in general is that A8 does too many things to be used as a Streamer (DAC not used, R2R volume attenuator/preamp not used). Also when used as a streamer the digital attenuator (unless I did something wrong) has only 15 steps. I would not recommend this product
To my ears the DAC is outstanding. The volume control can be set in the menu to half dB steps.
Its a warmer DAC, I love it!
I will wait for the Master version😊
still waiting...
[@9:10] I don't like or use DSP either. Subscribed!
(my A8 gets delivered in a couple of days)
Thanks for the detailed review. I was considering this unit alongside external dac so I could have less boxes since it has an integrated pre-amp. However, I don't think the integrated pre will do my nice dac and nice power amp justice. The search continues...perhaps a Holoaudio Serene.
Wonder if the A6 ME willl match up to the A8 as far as a streamer only sound wise
Hi! I am struggling to find a sound-Upgrade to my current system without spending a leg and arm. It"s a ifi zen stream in exclusive DLNA Mode with a LPS, connected via USB to a Chord Qutest, also with LPS. As far as i understand your review, the DMP-A8 probably would not be the sound upgrade i am seeking?
Thanks for the best a8 review on youtube!
How do i bypass the pre amp and how to connect or set?
Good point with the $2000 audiophiles price
Thanks! Do you have any plan to review the Eversolo AMP-F2 amplifier?
I wonder how do you bypass the pre-amp section. If you use the XLR output does it go through the internal pre-amp circuit? If that could be done, it would be awesome, and it can go straight into my McIntosh pre-amp.
I think you have to use the digital outputs to circumvent the pre-amp stage. So USB, AES, coax and go to an external DAC. I would buy an A8 or A6 as streamer only.
I'd like to see a review of the Topping Pre90 preamp, others have gave it high marks
Hi, thanks for the nice video! Would you like to publish a comparison between 2 DACs? The Ares 12 and the gustard r26 ???
Eversolo A8 vs Lumin D3 ktory lepszym wyborem?👍👍👍
Great video. Thank you.
I would like to connect the Eversolo DMP-A8 Streamer with the KEF LS60 speakers. Do I need any additional hardware to play Hi-Res Audio via Apple Music? Sorry, I'm not an expert in this area.
Hi! Thank you for your work. So a question arises. A8 alone or A6 into R26 via USB? Thank you, cheers from Italy
Solid, professional review. You got a new subscriber. English is a second language to me too, so I humbly suggest you force yourself to add the article "the" to specific substantives like A8, A6, DSP, etc.
Thanks! As for the articles, yeah. I'm a natural Tarzan, especially while my mind is crunching on something else, and can't simultaneously pay active attention to grammar. But I'll keep giving it the old college try.
I noticed quite the difference between the a6 (normal) and a8 through usb digital, connected at a chord tt2+mscaler. So much that with the a8 I liked the combi, with the a6 I did not. They say there is not much difference digital, but why was the a8 way more dynamic, full sounding. It should not matter through usb, but it did. So is it clocks, changes power supply. I don’t know quite annoyed it made such a big difference. The a8 analogue is better than the a6, but won’t use that, neither then pre out. So than you pay way more for just the better digital. But a6 I did not like, not analogue not digital
Many of potential buyers already have a very good DAC and preamp. Hope Eversolo and Wiim can make the streamer only unit for less money and better performance. It is a waste of money buying streamer with inferior quality DAC or preamp built in.
You want the HiFi Rose RS130
Hoped A8 came with 10M clock input
When will the master edition be available ... 2 months???
Excellent vid
Great review! How do you bypass the preamp on the A8 (to use just the streamer & dac)? Advice appreciated. Thanks
i want to now too...
Don’t need to, just don’t use it if you don’t want to. Set volume to maximum fixed.
@@aussie8114 but the output still goes through the press amp stage...it doesn't bypass it.
I was going to get this to replace my PS Audio Stellar Gain Cell DAC/pre (and Node 2), but I was thinking it may best to keep the PSA SGCD and use it as a pre and A8 as DAC and streamer. Thoughts?
I don't have any experience with PS Stellar Gain Cell so it's difficult to give any advice in this case. If I have to make an educated guess, I would say that you won't need to keep it. A8 has a very good DAC.
To bypass the preamp, you set the analogue outputs as fixed? This will make HDMI ARC pointless, right?
Great review as always. I think you may have been referring to Steve Huff when you commented on the reviewer but not sure. If so, I really like Steve but I think he's a little out of touch with how he classifies the quality or label of audio components because he spent so much time playing with and owning super expensive gear for so long. Only in the last year has he started to embrace more "affordable" gear and he's still not quite labeling the gear right.
Great review. Just comparing the DAC how does it stand with Hugo 2? Thanks
Hugo 2 absolutely demolishes the A6 SE. Not in the same league. A8 seems it would be closer but I highly doubt it's the same. SS talks about categorically subtle improvements from A6 -> A8.
Thanks
After watching reviews of A8 and finding out that it has band equalizers, I went to settings in my A6 and for short period of time it also had band equalizers😊 . Couple days later it disappeared. I reached out to eversolo and they denied that band eq was never available on A6 and to show them pictures or video of that. Unfortunately I do not have any evidence of that but I was happy for that couple of days tinkering with eq. Unfortunately it was removed, I assume with an update. I wish they kept it and had it available on A6. Did any of you guys also experienced band eq on eversolo dmp-A6 for short period of time?
Eversolo announced a few days ago that PEQ and GEQ are coming to the A6. Maybe you accidentally got a sneak peak at a beta version somehow!
Nice previews ! I would like to know if the dac inside the A8 is better than RME dac. Thanks in advance. Pit
To my ears it is better. It creates bigger soundstage and even more deteil retrieval.
Eversolo A6+ Gustard A26 or standalone A8 in terms of sound quality?
It would be neck to neck. It's more about personal taste really. I would maybe rather go for A8 because it's a bit smoother and more refined (which I like) compared to slightly sharper and brighter A26.
@@iiWiReviews Thank you very much. Very fast and very helpful reply 🙂
Interesting review. I'm currently running the Naim ND5 XS2 as an all-in-one streamer/DAC. I would be interested if you (or anyone else) has a view on how the A8 would compare in terms of sound quality in the same all-in-one streamer DAC configuration? cheers
I have and NDX2 + XPS-DR and have heard the ND5 XS32 many times (nearly bought one). If you appreciate the fullness and refinement that you get with the ND5 XS2, the A6 and A8 will sound bleached and color-less to you in comparison.
I'll add that if you want a solid sound upgrade and are using a Naim preamp/integrated, get a Gothic Audio ELLA 5-pin DIN interconnect cable. Very close to Witch Hat Morgana levels of performance for about half the price (before WH went under). Even when using Preh-DIN connectors.
One question! About PRE APM - Is it better than digital volume in Standard A6? I am using Sveda Audio Active speakers, only with E. DMP - A6.
Analog volume control is generally much better than digital
Fantastic review. Planning to get one soon. Could you please advise how to install & stream Apple Music on A8.
Great as always. No need for external power supply?
@IWii
Did you compare Eversolo A6, A8 to Wiim Pro or specially to Wimm pro plus?
How does it looks c9mpared to RME 4 ?
There's a Wiim Pro plus review few videos back on the channel... There I compared it to A6 among others.
I'm sure they have no comparison possible. Wiim pro/ pro plus is a great streamer and great value but one has to be serious...it's a HUGE price difference, A8 is a lot more complex, featured piece of gear. A8 has to be at leats two tiers above wiim current products.
@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh I have some WiiM streamers and you are correct. They are great values but not "giant killers". You actually do get more for your money sometimes in audio gear, you just have to be careful and read a lot of reviews. I would wonder how the A8 compares to streamers by Innuos.
@@rosswarren436 i think they are giant killers and put up a good fight with units costing 2 times maybe 3 times as much. But not like...10 times as much. There would have to be something very wrong with the company releasing such products.
@@JoseFerreira-zb7whEach new product for 1000 or 2000 euro more expensive🤯😲😟😤🙄 a step back🤢
I wonder what accuracy you could hit which device you hear from the two one in a blind test.
I have the A8 thinking of getting the the ladder bach or shitt Kara. Which on should I go for? 👍🏻
One thing the Eversolo crowd shares with the McIntosh crowd, they are Defensive on their products. You think this was the 1st streamer made? And with the Power Supply upgrades offered for the A6/ME, that's like talking about Recapping or Power/RCA cable upgrades. Thanks for the reviews as you are Very Important in keeping these reviews real.
Not really true. Tarun (A British Audiophile, is his channel) measured A6 with LPS and compared it with A8 on its own. The A6/LPS combo was better than just A6, but still harsh and metallic on the upper end than A8.
Will the DMP A6 with a Gustard A26 sound better than the DMP A8?
Great insights! Thank you brother! I wonder if i should consider this for my Hegel H390 integrated amp for the network transport as i love the DAC in the H390. Would you recommend that? Appreciate your thoughts 🙏🏼
A6 + gustard R26 or A8 ?
Nice to see a claremont 56 fan, that almunia album is really nice.
I got the same question, what you decide for? I'm more fore the A6 + r26
@@SimoRama I still haven't decided. Think I might try the new holo cyan 2 and use it with an A6.
@@tomislavvukusic5051 it could be awesome. Btw I've decided to go for a gustard r26 alone. Later I will seek for a streamer. Maybe some pure streamer with a good screen will come out for a decent price. Something without pre or Dac in it..
Thank you for once again, another awesome review. 😊
Do you happen to know if the brand new A10 will have a better pre-amp section?
I have a question about how to use an IPAD to play music via USB
Who will be better? Gustard R26 /A26 DMP-A8?
With the A8 you wouldn't have to connect the iPad via USB.
I would like to see a digital transport from eversolo with a better equalizer. I dont want to pay for a delta sigma dac.
Without questioning the review conclusions, I'd still appreciate if someone explains what makes digital USB output of one streamer better than another one. Each of the two receives exactly the same compressed audio stream, decodes it into PCM (which must be exactly the same in both cases) and sends it over USB to a DAC.
Better timing (better clocks/less digital noise), Less analog noise ( which flows on the USB cable to the DAC and shows up in the analog signal after conversion)
Hmmm I wonder if this is better than A6 or A5 Master plus a Freya +?
eversolo should offer a standalone streamer. i'll choose a dac. that would be a big seller and a winner in my book.
I noticed quite the difference between the a6 (normal) and a8 through usb digital, connected at a chord tt2+mscaler. So much that with the a8 I liked the combi, with the a6 I did not. They say there is not much difference digital, but why was the a8 way more dynamic, full sounding. It should not matter through usb, but it did. So is it clocks, changes power supply. I don’t know quite annoyed it made such a big difference. The a8 analogue is better than the a6, but won’t use that, neither then pre out. So than you pay way more for just the better digital. But a6 I did not like, not analogue not digital. Even my wife heared it easily, and that says something, because she really, rreaaalllyy doesn’t care about hifi
hegel h120 + dmp-a8 (just dac/streamer) good combination ?
Would it have a better sound than do300 (or su-9 pro) with a wiim pro ?
Please do consider reviewing Lejonklou Kalla streamer and DACs from Audial, Newontech, Merason and TentLabs
Great review, thanks! Was wondering if you had ever tried the Nain Uniti Atom and how you would compare it to the A8.
Thanks. I have listened to Atom and it sounded nice, but it was in a completely different system so any meaningful comparison is not possible.
Becoming a fan of your channel , Is A6 with upgraded lps or with out lps as a streamer with gustard r26 better than a A8 or a ifi zen streamer with a r26 compare to a A8
Great idea giving it away as a xmas prize 😋😋😋😋😋
have you had a chans to listen to the dmp-a6 master edition?, for me it was i nice step up from standard a6 now thinking about lps for it, have a nice vincent sa-94 preamp so no need to pay for extra funktions that whould not be used.
I haven't. But given how nice of an improvement LHY LPS A6 brought to the standard edition, I think it might be a solid plan.
how does this compare to the geshelli j2s
May I ask for opinion here.. My Dmp-a6 Master edition, weaker is dac or preamp? Would you change it to the r26 alone?