Excellent video again and very informative. There's a lot of history in the area. The one thing that really amazes me is the infrastructure built and then disregarded. Love to see everything restored to its former glory.
I’m with you, it’s always hard to believe when you are out in the middle of nowhere with massive aqueducts and viaducts to understand how these railways and canals were abandoned, it’s such a waste! So many people died building these colossal projects they should be at least maintained in memory of the sacrifices people made to feed their family
Very interesting and informative video. Given the superb restoration of the Mechanics Institute, I wonder what the chances are of restoring the canal - at least to the missing aqueduct, or collapsed Butterley Tunnel?
Once beggerlea is done then they should be able to start extended to this area. It would be good to get it to the Reservoir. I’m not sure I’ll see the tunnel restored in my lifetime unless something significant happens, the canal past the tunnel is beautiful though so I hope I’m wrong
We always appreciate and enjoy your videos; but often find that the changing ariel and ground photography move too fast for us to get our bearings😁. Might just be us; but we would really appreciate a slower pace and more orientation of where you currently are, between shots.. I hope this doesn't sound too negative, as your commitment and knowledge is really impressive. Thank you.
The issue is time, if I slow down and explain where I am too much the videos will be too long. I try to add maps etc to show locations as well as saying where I am. I highly advise downloading the maps on waterwayroutes as the restoration ones are free, it might make it easier to follow videos, I do mention them in this weeks video. You can download each individual canal
We had several holidayys in cottages that were on a farm (Leashaw Farm i think at Whatstandwell?) which was on the side of the Cromford Canal a couple of miles or so below Cromford Mill. It had been restored some years before, but was decaying again. One of the cottages we had had the back wall beside the towpath, and the canal could be accessed by a gate and steps from the farm property. I had numerous walks beside the canal in both directions, and about a quarter of a mile towards Cromford wass a short tunnell. I often thought how good it would be to return to the area, but on a canal boat after the canal had been fully restored, but now, at 66, i doubt whether it will ever be done in my lifetime. Interestingly, the farm was in the original ownership of the family of "Florence Nightingale". I don`t know whetehr the farm cottages are still holiday cottages, as we hired them 15-20 years ago, and the owners were quite elderly back then, so i don`t know what happened to them.
You can take a boat trip from Cromford wharf, I’m sure if you asked they’d allow a private charter, I’ve walked from Gregory tunnel myself and it’s all in water. I’m not sure what parts are navigable, I know it is to the Leawood aqueduct
Hi Mr. C. Nice video again. Very informativeas usual sir. However, your audio issue has returned in the early part, then went away during the focus into the front of the institute building with the fancy porch, and returned again following that. If there's a way to keep the audio input down on initial recording, bring it down a little. The audio can always be boosted in post production/editing. The sound of over driven transistor amps cannot however be removed.
My grandparents lived in Plumptre Road Langley Mill and I often walked down Stoney Lane to Vicar’s Lock and up as far as Codnor Park in the fifties. It was all in water but disused. At the time it was destroyed you were starting to see canoes using the cut, which probably pushed British Waterways and the NCB into the opencast sites along the route before regular use could have been proven.
@ both BR and BW were set up by the government with a directive to prune their systems so that only profitable routes remained. There was no concept of tourist boating so no way it could be seen as generating income and, therefore, a reason to maintain or restore canals. I believe the only profitable canals were the broad cuts which supplied coal to Yorkshire power stations. BR was losing money hand over fist. Routes that probably had never turned a penny were in use all over the country. Profitable routes would become unprofitable when pits closed they served. The biggest problem was the number of employees. With today’s technology many rural routes might the fine but with signal boxes every few miles, crossing keepers and umpteen staff at rural stations they couldn’t. As cars got cheaper the slow, dirty trains became even less attractive.
@ whilst I agree with some of this it’s not entirely true, Beeching never recommend to close as many routes as what were closed. The issue was Ernest Marples who had a road building company and was in charge of Transport, the same guy who had to leave the country after dodging taxes for 30 years. He commissioned a load of work from rolling stock, new tracks, decorating stations so it appeared on paper that many lines weren’t turning a profit. He then used this as an excuse to close many lines which were useful because it didn’t align with his business
@ that’s perfectly true but BR was set up to make a profit and was under pressure to do so from Nationalisation Day. The railways were wrecked after being under government control during WW2 and the Big Four would have been due eye-watering compensation had nationalisation not happened. Buying them out was much the cheaper option but that left the Treasury with a big hole to fill to repair the system. It failed to do so. The other thing to remember was that *all* commercial transport was nationalised at the same time. The railways were very integrated, with buses, hotels and even a joint airline. All these, which improved profitability, were split off and British Road Services was told to compete. The ferries were split off. The hotels were split off. BR really never stood much of a chance, IMO.
@CourtAboveTheCut you past a train bridge just before ironville they is a footpath to the road there they are either sides of that they are mostly hidden by weeds when I walked last month but seen loads of bridge stones they must be the missing bridges.
@ it’s when RUclips limit how you see other channels leave likes and make comments … also, if you have a controversial pov, or an opinion that doesn’t align with popular norms… that can get one shadow banned.
Excellent video again and very informative. There's a lot of history in the area. The one thing that really amazes me is the infrastructure built and then disregarded. Love to see everything restored to its former glory.
I’m with you, it’s always hard to believe when you are out in the middle of nowhere with massive aqueducts and viaducts to understand how these railways and canals were abandoned, it’s such a waste! So many people died building these colossal projects they should be at least maintained in memory of the sacrifices people made to feed their family
Wow.. very cool video.. so much history.. love it..
It’s an area packed with history
Walked that many times then around the Reservoir and back. Lovely.
@@denisemardell3588 it’s beautiful up that way isn’t it. It’ll be even better with boats on a canal though!
Very interesting and informative video. Given the superb restoration of the Mechanics Institute, I wonder what the chances are of restoring the canal - at least to the missing aqueduct, or collapsed Butterley Tunnel?
Once beggerlea is done then they should be able to start extended to this area. It would be good to get it to the Reservoir. I’m not sure I’ll see the tunnel restored in my lifetime unless something significant happens, the canal past the tunnel is beautiful though so I hope I’m wrong
@@malcolmrichardson3881 its being restored from the erewash canal end
We always appreciate and enjoy your videos; but often find that the changing ariel and ground photography move too fast for us to get our bearings😁. Might just be us; but we would really appreciate a slower pace and more orientation of where you currently are, between shots.. I hope this doesn't sound too negative, as your commitment and knowledge is really impressive. Thank you.
The issue is time, if I slow down and explain where I am too much the videos will be too long. I try to add maps etc to show locations as well as saying where I am. I highly advise downloading the maps on waterwayroutes as the restoration ones are free, it might make it easier to follow videos, I do mention them in this weeks video. You can download each individual canal
We had several holidayys in cottages that were on a farm (Leashaw Farm i think at Whatstandwell?) which was on the side of the Cromford Canal a couple of miles or so below Cromford Mill. It had been restored some years before, but was decaying again. One of the cottages we had had the back wall beside the towpath, and the canal could be accessed by a gate and steps from the farm property. I had numerous walks beside the canal in both directions, and about a quarter of a mile towards Cromford wass a short tunnell. I often thought how good it would be to return to the area, but on a canal boat after the canal had been fully restored, but now, at 66, i doubt whether it will ever be done in my lifetime. Interestingly, the farm was in the original ownership of the family of "Florence Nightingale". I don`t know whetehr the farm cottages are still holiday cottages, as we hired them 15-20 years ago, and the owners were quite elderly back then, so i don`t know what happened to them.
You can take a boat trip from Cromford wharf, I’m sure if you asked they’d allow a private charter, I’ve walked from Gregory tunnel myself and it’s all in water. I’m not sure what parts are navigable, I know it is to the Leawood aqueduct
Hi Mr. C. Nice video again. Very informativeas usual sir. However, your audio issue has returned in the early part, then went away during the focus into the front of the institute building with the fancy porch, and returned again following that. If there's a way to keep the audio input down on initial recording, bring it down a little. The audio can always be boosted in post production/editing. The sound of over driven transistor amps cannot however be removed.
@@Gizepi this was recorded months ago on the old camera and equipment, I’ve got another 2-3 still sat in edit from the summer.
@@Gizepi thanks for the tips though :)
My grandparents lived in Plumptre Road Langley Mill and I often walked down Stoney Lane to Vicar’s Lock and up as far as Codnor Park in the fifties. It was all in water but disused. At the time it was destroyed you were starting to see canoes using the cut, which probably pushed British Waterways and the NCB into the opencast sites along the route before regular use could have been proven.
I always think that if both the railways and canals survived another 20 years we would have amazing infrastructure in this country.
@ both BR and BW were set up by the government with a directive to prune their systems so that only profitable routes remained. There was no concept of tourist boating so no way it could be seen as generating income and, therefore, a reason to maintain or restore canals. I believe the only profitable canals were the broad cuts which supplied coal to Yorkshire power stations. BR was losing money hand over fist. Routes that probably had never turned a penny were in use all over the country. Profitable routes would become unprofitable when pits closed they served. The biggest problem was the number of employees. With today’s technology many rural routes might the fine but with signal boxes every few miles, crossing keepers and umpteen staff at rural stations they couldn’t. As cars got cheaper the slow, dirty trains became even less attractive.
@ whilst I agree with some of this it’s not entirely true, Beeching never recommend to close as many routes as what were closed. The issue was Ernest Marples who had a road building company and was in charge of Transport, the same guy who had to leave the country after dodging taxes for 30 years. He commissioned a load of work from rolling stock, new tracks, decorating stations so it appeared on paper that many lines weren’t turning a profit. He then used this as an excuse to close many lines which were useful because it didn’t align with his business
@ that’s perfectly true but BR was set up to make a profit and was under pressure to do so from Nationalisation Day. The railways were wrecked after being under government control during WW2 and the Big Four would have been due eye-watering compensation had nationalisation not happened. Buying them out was much the cheaper option but that left the Treasury with a big hole to fill to repair the system. It failed to do so.
The other thing to remember was that *all* commercial transport was nationalised at the same time. The railways were very integrated, with buses, hotels and even a joint airline. All these, which improved profitability, were split off and British Road Services was told to compete. The ferries were split off. The hotels were split off. BR really never stood much of a chance, IMO.
@ they needed trimming, the issues were everybody built the same routes, they just didn’t need trimming as much as they were
Not Pinkton Arm, the Pinxton Arm as far as I know. Great video thanks !
I watched a few videos to try and get the pronunciation right but still messed it up 🤦🏻♂️
@@CourtAboveTheCut yes, I'm just being OCD ! 🙂We don't normally encounter "X" in similar names
Just before ironville there is load of bridge stones probably four or five whole bridges it over grown now
Interesting, Where would I be looking?
@CourtAboveTheCut you past a train bridge just before ironville they is a footpath to the road there they are either sides of that they are mostly hidden by weeds when I walked last month but seen loads of bridge stones they must be the missing bridges.
@@computercraig777 Could be from the accident , years ago, when some Trucks derailed and crashed through the parapet.
Very good. By the way it’s called PINXTON not Pinkton!! So pronounced PINKSTON
@@MattJarvis78 yes I’ve been told off a few times 😂😂 pronouncing place names wrong is a bit of a theme for me, you should watch my Welsh stuff 😂😂
Another one I didn’t get a notification for…. I’m probably shadow banned… I was at High Peak Junction back in September…
What’s shadow banned?
@ it’s when RUclips limit how you see other channels leave likes and make comments … also, if you have a controversial pov, or an opinion that doesn’t align with popular norms… that can get one shadow banned.
@ yeah I’ve had to stop saying what I think of those in charge on videos as I get a noticeable dip in views etc for 4-6 weeks
Very good. By the way it’s called PINXTON not Pinkton!! So pronounced PINKSTON
I thought I replied to this, thank you! I watched some videos and thought I had it right 🤦🏻♂️