Starting a 5500HP Voith Schneider Tugboat. They only smoke during startup. Recorded several years ago. Please SUBSCRIBE to this channel if you like these videos. Thanks allot for watching !
Just did a little research out of curiosity, it looks like electric or electric/LNG harbor tugs are being produced and deployed to shipyards over the last few years - In 2019/2020 they have a bollard pull of between 5 and 45 tonnes with a battery of 2500kWh, and 2022/2023 there are some with a bollard pull of 60 to 80 tonnes and up to 6000kWh. Apparently they last all day, who knows how real world performance actually plays out since these ports are all obsessed with meeting the communistic sustainable development goals instituted by ESG. All these electric tugboats are habor only, havent seen a single open sea vessel which require much larger ranges, size and a pulling power of at least 70-120 tonnes at a bollard pull. They do make sense, in theory though, since the dead weight of battery banks has less effect than air or land travel.
My Honda gcv 160 lawnmower I got for $15 uses 1/2 quart of oil every 40 minutes. You are fully aware of the wind direction. Trying to get new rings and maybe do something about the piston slap. Is it worth it? Yeah maybe considering they are no more and I want to say that the money spent is a learning opportunity. My point is that the boat clears up and my mower can be seen from helicopters in the sky. I hate to be seen with it like that. People are so ready to rage over mundane things these days. What they don't realize is that I am right on top of it. Not too fun. Funny maybe. The boat is as great as it needs to be.
I was serving as an Artillery Sergeant on a Fast Patrol Boat of the German Navy. A class 143 "Albatros" boat, hull P6115/FGS S65 Sperber. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albatros-class_fast_attack_craft Those were 58 mtrs long and up to 44 knots fast under military power settings.Why? Because of 4(!) magnificent 16 cylinder double turbo engines with 160 liters or 9763,8 cubic inch of displacement from MTM, putting out 4500HP each. So we had 18.000 horses in a 58mtr boat made from aluminium and teak, because anti-magnetic steel as mine protection was not available or too expensive in the beginning of the 70´s in Germany. 48 cubic meter of diesel were onboard and we ran through 8 cubic meters every hour while doing 44 knots:) Those were the times. They called the fire department in France when we were starting one by one, because we were "rolling coal" like nothing the french had ever seen, while fleeing:)
Living along the Columbia River and having jet skied near the tugs that push barges up and down river, they sure sounds like a locomotive when the power up. I don't know what engines are used honestly!
Columbia river has a bunch of EMD. There are also a lot of Caterpillars, one that I know is a Cummins. Its a smattering. What I do know is, most are not large enough to actively compete with a locomotive. Portland doesnt have the need for stuff that big.
I've always wondered: Why are there so many smokestacks? I got the two main engines and a generator, but it looks like there are five exhaust pipes? Also do you know why they are shaped in such a way, as opposed to just being straight or not "bendy"? Thanks!
Bit late but the shape is to stop the ingress of rain and sea water. One stack will be a generator set, another will maybe be a hydraulic power unit or a water pump. One of the latest vessel I worked on building had 4 smoke stacks, 2 for the main engines, 1 for a high pressure water pump for underwater pressure cleaning, and another for the generator set. It's pretty standard really
They are bent inwards to allow manouvering under the Bow of larger Ships. A nice Side Effect is that it gets some Distance between the Exhausts and the Deck Crew of a larger Ship when alongside e.g. for connecting the Tug, thus not blowing Exhaust Gas directly into their Faces.
no, they shouldnt, black smoke is overload, or to mutch feul entering the cilinder, before the turbo's can build up pressure., its a lack off air, or to mutch feul due to giving it full load at oce, instead of slowly to help the turbo's give thetime to spoul up), under full load it should not smoke black, thats overload... (in cold start conditions the regulator pulls the feul rack to ful power, in the first revolutions starting it will pull it back, reducing the amount off feul injected in the cilinders., thats why it smokes that black at cold start...)
its the engine's rpm regulator (governor) ,when you start them up, there on ful throttle., if it starts the governor puls the feul rack back to the desired amount dictated by the throttles.. in most modern diesels its controlled by a computer.but it wil work almost the same.
Nope. Unburnt diesel fuel smoke is white. Black = ovefuelling, where the there is too much fuel for the air aka "too rich". It is 'burning' fine, just not in the correct mixture. It's a problem common to turbo diesels and can occur when a high throttle demand results in smoke before the turbo spools. Mr Bugsier5 was quite correct.
A few reasons.... 1) to direct the flow of exhaust as much away from bridge as possible. 2) to minimize admittance of rainwater when engines not running. 3) to maintain as low a profile as possible in the event that it must be in close quarters with the overhang at bow of a ship.
Because the EPA does not require tight emissions regulations "yet" and the IMO Tier 3 regulations are not agreed upon by all parties involved and have not been enforceable yet. The EPA's plan has always been to start with the largest quantity of engines being sold with the smallest displacement (think On Highway emissions from small pickups and semi trucks) and enforce regulations on those first, eventually working their way up to the larger displacement engines over the span of many years. Marine applications are especially challenging to upfit with aftertreatment emissions control devices because they have to worry more about fires at sea due to the 450 C exhaust temp, and also what do they do when the device plugs up with soot. They are also hard to enforce because ships that make international travel can turn off or "re-route" their exhaust aftertreatment device once they are some distance away from the shoreline (roughly 100 miles) of the regulated zone. Once you are in international waters, there is no regulation until you reach the next shoreline that has regulation. I can assure you there are several companies actively designing large marine engines (3000+ hp) that are far more fuel efficient and far cleaner burning than any of these old rigs you see out there now. But it's a tough market to due high cost and low volumes of units sold.
Diesels smoke when they are not warmed up or just starting(runs it really rich). Also they smoke when facing a lot of resistance like when a truck goes up a hill without downshifting or in this case prop having to push water while pulling large boats.
This is unlikely to be 5500hp, more likely 1500hp. A tug's thrust is limited by its buoyancy. When you're at maximum bollardpull with the towing line at an angle, it causes the tug to lay over. A tug like this has very low freeboard, which limits the maximum allowable thrust. I'm going to guess around 60 tons bollardpull, so around 1500hp. Cheerio!
Lol starts better than my damn car! But geeeeeezus Christ. 5000hp diesels usually don't put out much horsepower but gobs of torque! So what are the torque ratings! Or is it transferred to electricity and or hydraulic?
Um, 5000 HP is 5000 HP. Horsepower is how much work an engine can do, i.e. move things. Torque is just an instantaneous measurement of the force it applies to the crankshaft. Torque is huge on low-RPM diesels because a large force is required to do work at low RPMs. If they revved higher, the torque would be less for a given horsepower. Point being this: power is power. Power is the ability to move things, accomplish work. Torque is just the force used to do it.
@@mrobinson4210 I would word it this way; Horsepower is how fast you apply torque. Torque is what gets the work done, horsepower is how fast you get it done.
It is pity that the cameraman only shot from the out side of the ship..... much more interesting if they shot the SOP of starting the engines from the inside of engine room
You probably wouldn't want to - not much performance gain. Lots of power, but also very heavy. The engine alone probably has a worse power-to-weight than your entire car. So it won't haul ass, but you can bet it would haul (or more drag) shit, anything you could possibly hook to it.
Ich liebe Motoren u Schiffe ( außer Passagier Schiffe ) aber ,,diese" Abgase sind jedenfalls nicht gut in der Nähe eines Luft Kurort für Lungenkranke ☝️🤭
two 5000 hp engines ,,, or two 2500 hp engines???the black smoke is normal,,,,when try to start some unburnt fuel has in ccylinders chamber,and when fires up,,, the air /fuel weight ratio is less than 17 , at ralenti,,,the ratio is about 100,,,at full load is 17.
boy those engines are LOYAL. fire right up.
All Caterpillar diesels are just like that
I don’t think electric will ever replace that
NEVER
Why
Just did a little research out of curiosity, it looks like electric or electric/LNG harbor tugs are being produced and deployed to shipyards over the last few years - In 2019/2020 they have a bollard pull of between 5 and 45 tonnes with a battery of 2500kWh, and 2022/2023 there are some with a bollard pull of 60 to 80 tonnes and up to 6000kWh. Apparently they last all day, who knows how real world performance actually plays out since these ports are all obsessed with meeting the communistic sustainable development goals instituted by ESG.
All these electric tugboats are habor only, havent seen a single open sea vessel which require much larger ranges, size and a pulling power of at least 70-120 tonnes at a bollard pull.
They do make sense, in theory though, since the dead weight of battery banks has less effect than air or land travel.
It will one day (don’t get me wrong, I love electric), but the sound of that WILL BE LEGENDARY and will never die!!
@lucasrios5839 Because it's the biggest con since bottled water. You'll see soon. If the government is involved, it's not for our good.
those smoke stacks are so sick!!!!!
Inhale them then.
😑
@@mdanas0007whatever man, nothing beats good ol reliable.
I like the deep black smoke!! Greets, your nature :D
Actually the smoke isn't bad for a 5500hp diesel, I've seen smaller unmaintained ones that produces waaay more smoke than that...
1.9 TDI owners: that’s cute.
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My Honda gcv 160 lawnmower I got for $15 uses 1/2 quart of oil every 40 minutes. You are fully aware of the wind direction. Trying to get new rings and maybe do something about the piston slap. Is it worth it? Yeah maybe considering they are no more and I want to say that the money spent is a learning opportunity. My point is that the boat clears up and my mower can be seen from helicopters in the sky. I hate to be seen with it like that. People are so ready to rage over mundane things these days. What they don't realize is that I am right on top of it. Not too fun. Funny maybe. The boat is as great as it needs to be.
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Can confirm, both my IDI's regulary smoked out the neighborhood at 6am
"My Duramax rolls coal!!"
"Bet.."
i always miss the dook dook sound..from the tugboat
Imagine they didn't start it in weeks and some bird made a nest in there lol
Happens all the time... except the birds get in there and they don’t have enough room to fly out and die
Probably turn into a blackbird.
@@charlesdfloria i can picture some hardcore country dude taking it out and eating the chared meat
The exhaust gas temps would incinerate it they get up above a thousand degrees
@@SousTerre1 LMAO
Magnificent. How can you not get a boner watching this?
That's easy, a NEWS flash pop up on your screen with a picture of Pelosi's mug shot.😂
Caused some emissions into my underwear
If you listen close enough, you can hear Greta crying as she listens to these engines hurt the environment, and I love it.
Bro she is a child
goinghomesomeday1 and very stupid
@@christopherhopkins4805 Can you prove your point? Otherwise you are the stupid one...
Screw the environment, diesel power!
They sound almost like alco engines
I was serving as an Artillery Sergeant on a Fast Patrol Boat of the German Navy. A class 143 "Albatros" boat, hull P6115/FGS S65 Sperber.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albatros-class_fast_attack_craft
Those were 58 mtrs long and up to 44 knots fast under military power settings.Why?
Because of 4(!) magnificent 16 cylinder double turbo engines
with 160 liters or 9763,8 cubic inch of displacement from MTM, putting out 4500HP each.
So we had 18.000 horses in a 58mtr boat made from aluminium and teak,
because anti-magnetic steel as mine protection was not available or too expensive in the beginning of the 70´s in Germany.
48 cubic meter of diesel were onboard and we ran through 8 cubic meters every hour while doing 44 knots:)
Those were the times.
They called the fire department in France when we were starting one by one, because we were "rolling coal" like nothing the french had ever seen, while fleeing:)
Living along the Columbia River and having jet skied near the tugs that push barges up and down river, they sure sounds like a locomotive when the power up. I don't know what engines are used honestly!
Most of tugs we use out here in the U.S. use EMD I believe but I might be mistaken, funny since they build locomotives as well.
Columbia river has a bunch of EMD. There are also a lot of Caterpillars, one that I know is a Cummins. Its a smattering. What I do know is, most are not large enough to actively compete with a locomotive. Portland doesnt have the need for stuff that big.
That’s one mean looking boat
Badass
Nice boat!
Good wark 👍
Tàu kéo 2 động cơ quá to khủng🌾👍🙏🇻🇳
This ship will drag Hawaii so easy
Sounds like a big ass lawnmower
I've always wondered: Why are there so many smokestacks? I got the two main engines and a generator, but it looks like there are five exhaust pipes? Also do you know why they are shaped in such a way, as opposed to just being straight or not "bendy"?
Thanks!
usually multiple generators, plus a diesel-powered water pump (for the fire monitors, i.e. firefighting).
Bit late but the shape is to stop the ingress of rain and sea water. One stack will be a generator set, another will maybe be a hydraulic power unit or a water pump. One of the latest vessel I worked on building had 4 smoke stacks, 2 for the main engines, 1 for a high pressure water pump for underwater pressure cleaning, and another for the generator set. It's pretty standard really
They are bent inwards to allow manouvering under the Bow of larger Ships. A nice Side Effect is that it gets some Distance between the Exhausts and the Deck Crew of a larger Ship when alongside e.g. for connecting the Tug, thus not blowing Exhaust Gas directly into their Faces.
@@Genius_at_Work also keeps smoke from blowing straight into the wheelhouse.
Nice sound
Got I love the sound of that thing
I like
YEAH DIESEL
Reminds me of the 606NA from Baldwin.
Nice but i want more 👍
I like sound and manoeuver this tug..ASD TUG nice..
I love tug boat
👍👍👍👍👍
Nice
It reminds me of a diesel locomotive engine
That thing sounds exactly like a Hydra-Mac 1600 when it fires up lmfao
As the polar bears gently weep.
most tugs must smoke hard if you throttle while towing a ship
no, they shouldnt, black smoke is overload, or to mutch feul entering the cilinder, before the turbo's can build up pressure., its a lack off air, or to mutch feul due to giving it full load at oce, instead of slowly to help the turbo's give thetime to spoul up), under full load it should not smoke black, thats overload... (in cold start conditions the regulator pulls the feul rack to ful power, in the first revolutions starting it will pull it back, reducing the amount off feul injected in the cilinders., thats why it smokes that black at cold start...)
I was wondering about that, so it over fuels automatically on cold start or is he working the throttle?
its the engine's rpm regulator (governor) ,when you start them up, there on ful throttle., if it starts the governor puls the feul rack back to the desired amount dictated by the throttles..
in most modern diesels its controlled by a computer.but it wil work almost the same.
GoProWithTom geez, the thought of an exhaust leak in the engine room while doing that
Nope. Unburnt diesel fuel smoke is white. Black = ovefuelling, where the there is too much fuel for the air aka "too rich". It is 'burning' fine, just not in the correct mixture. It's a problem common to turbo diesels and can occur when a high throttle demand results in smoke before the turbo spools. Mr Bugsier5 was quite correct.
Mesin 5500 HP, jembatan suramadu bisa ditarik tuh
sounds like that russian locomotive!
Sounds like a 218 locomotive
Will the engine fit in my Peugeot 206?
Is this a boat with two separate engines?
I wanna be a diesel boat driver
I wanted to add this engine into an SD40.
Oh Mama 👍👍🇺🇸
rolling coal
WhiteGangster400 tugs don't rial coal like mall cruiser playschool trucks. this is a working machine not a punk truck
if only i had smoke stacks that size !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
floating coal
WhiteGangster400 sailing coal.
Is there a reason that the exhaust pipes are shaped like that?
I-Love-CO Mountains to look badass
they are shaped like that so they can go closer to the ships.
A few reasons.... 1) to direct the flow of exhaust as much away from bridge as possible. 2) to minimize admittance of rainwater when engines not running. 3) to maintain as low a profile as possible in the event that it must be in close quarters with the overhang at bow of a ship.
They do look bad ass:)
Stan Patterson yet they curve in and towards the bridge?
Looks like CAT Power. LOL
Suitable for tugging on berthing vessel Panamax class
Does Voith make the engine also or just the drive train?
auf nach Hamburg damit!😂
ABC?
What is that giant board in the background
Greta Thunberg didn't like that >:(
Nice.. And we all have to replace our car for ecologic restrictions
Why does a locomotive take 25 minutes to get all cylinders firing and this fires up like family sedan?
Don't they use locomotive engines in these?
Is this an ancient engine kept off for 1000 years or what
Diesel engines tend to smoke. It’s normal.
Позовите Грету Тунберг 😁 ♻
How much yall fill up in that thing
Why do Diesel engines in marine application seem to smoke much more than standard application? Really want to know. I'm interested.
Chevyblock 550 typical the engines are older and marine engines have lower emission standards
because no one gives a ship.
Because the EPA does not require tight emissions regulations "yet" and the IMO Tier 3 regulations are not agreed upon by all parties involved and have not been enforceable yet. The EPA's plan has always been to start with the largest quantity of engines being sold with the smallest displacement (think On Highway emissions from small pickups and semi trucks) and enforce regulations on those first, eventually working their way up to the larger displacement engines over the span of many years. Marine applications are especially challenging to upfit with aftertreatment emissions control devices because they have to worry more about fires at sea due to the 450 C exhaust temp, and also what do they do when the device plugs up with soot. They are also hard to enforce because ships that make international travel can turn off or "re-route" their exhaust aftertreatment device once they are some distance away from the shoreline (roughly 100 miles) of the regulated zone. Once you are in international waters, there is no regulation until you reach the next shoreline that has regulation. I can assure you there are several companies actively designing large marine engines (3000+ hp) that are far more fuel efficient and far cleaner burning than any of these old rigs you see out there now. But it's a tough market to due high cost and low volumes of units sold.
GotThrottle th California it applies
Diesels smoke when they are not warmed up or just starting(runs it really rich). Also they smoke when facing a lot of resistance like when a truck goes up a hill without downshifting or in this case prop having to push water while pulling large boats.
FEMINIST DESTROYER 5500
What engine??
Need DPF on that sucker
De antwerpen? , in haven oostende?
That was fun......zzzzzzz.
This is unlikely to be 5500hp, more likely 1500hp. A tug's thrust is limited by its buoyancy. When you're at maximum bollardpull with the towing line at an angle, it causes the tug to lay over. A tug like this has very low freeboard, which limits the maximum allowable thrust. I'm going to guess around 60 tons bollardpull, so around 1500hp. Cheerio!
is it 5500hp for each engine ?
IAM going to say combined, probably ( 2) 12 Cylinder two stroke locomotive engines ?
No one thinks electric can replace it? Me neither. Diesel will always make vehicles run.
Airstarting ya bro..??
and government wants euro 5 for motorcycles? geez what a fake world!
Does it have two separate engine ?
Shirish yes
take it thats newport
What's the black board thing top right?
Advertisement board maybe?
And yet I thought my dad's truck roles Coal, ha nvm
Lol starts better than my damn car! But geeeeeezus Christ. 5000hp diesels usually don't put out much horsepower but gobs of torque! So what are the torque ratings!
Or is it transferred to electricity and or hydraulic?
War Phoine these actually are 2610 hp a piece good for 18584.61N.m of torque or 164494.69 lb.in
Um, 5000 HP is 5000 HP. Horsepower is how much work an engine can do, i.e. move things. Torque is just an instantaneous measurement of the force it applies to the crankshaft. Torque is huge on low-RPM diesels because a large force is required to do work at low RPMs. If they revved higher, the torque would be less for a given horsepower. Point being this: power is power. Power is the ability to move things, accomplish work. Torque is just the force used to do it.
M Robinson so what are the torque ratings? I know the difference haha
Not sure about you, but 5000 is more than ‘not much’ horsepower
@@mrobinson4210 I would word it this way; Horsepower is how fast you apply torque. Torque is what gets the work done, horsepower is how fast you get it done.
It is pity that the cameraman only shot from the out side of the ship..... much more interesting if they shot the SOP of starting the engines from the inside of engine room
There is a Video from the inside
He has a video of the inside
is it fired on coal?
Do you understand the premise of turbo diesel engines? If not then I suggest some research.
Why so much black smoke?
Only smoke at startup - residual unburned fuel in the combustion chambers burns dirty all at once.
Sounds like either EMD 567, or Fairbanks Morse?
Danny Jones ABC (Anglo Belgian Corperation)
Wat kind of engines?
ABC diesels, made by Anglo-Belgian Corporation.
What engines are you running?
Mark Huett sounds like abc diesel to my ears
Guess the port engine is secondary on the PM schedule...
How dare you
Qual é o bollard Pull ?
Can I put it in my Miata?
You probably wouldn't want to - not much performance gain. Lots of power, but also very heavy. The engine alone probably has a worse power-to-weight than your entire car. So it won't haul ass, but you can bet it would haul (or more drag) shit, anything you could possibly hook to it.
ALCO engine maybe, or 4 cycle engine!
Is it a v12?
Sounds like Wartsila engines.
Ce truc fait 5500 cv mais fume moins que ma bmw 525 tds lol
Torque max?
torque(kgr.m= 716,2x 5000hp/ 500rpm. approx 7162kgr.m
Euro 6.2 ;D
Dat is Antwerpen
Euro norm 0 :D
Chyba port w Antwerpii.
So....One time it starts smoke goes on one exhaust and another time on second exhaust....2 engines or what???
One stack per engine. So two stacks, two engines.
Ich liebe Motoren u Schiffe ( außer Passagier Schiffe ) aber ,,diese" Abgase sind jedenfalls nicht gut in der Nähe eines Luft Kurort für Lungenkranke ☝️🤭
Like a 1.9 tdi
two 5000 hp engines ,,, or two 2500 hp engines???the black smoke is normal,,,,when try to start some unburnt fuel has in ccylinders chamber,and when fires up,,, the air /fuel weight ratio is less than 17 , at ralenti,,,the ratio is about 100,,,at full load is 17.
EURO ??? -100 ? :)
it twin 2750 HP engine not one engine
Deutz 549?
No those are ABC diesel engines. the channel has a video showing the startup from inside the engine room
@@CS_Blitzen so abc diesel engine are commonly use in tug boat...
that was it? dissapointed