Rules in RUclips have changed in the last three years drastically. The SAR K2 45 and K12 are closer to Tanfoglio than CZ75. Search "Memphis Tanfoglio Stock3" I learned watchmaking first but you will be fine with his instructions. If you have any specific questions. Email me at Wheeledandarmed@gmail.com. Nobody wants to watch a quadriplegic attempt to put a .25mm second hand on an ETA movement 33 times.
The difference in the K12 Sport being new and 500 rounds it opened up and the trigger there would have been great for most people. The trigger polishing and the $25 Galloway Precision spring kit would make it equalized to an $1800 Tanfoglio. But 4 months ago I did not see this coming. BTW the inside parts all look Tanfoglio.
@@WheeledandWellArmed I too have been pleasantly surprised at this quality pistol.Its great for absorbing recoil and backon target instantly.Mine still has all the standard springs etc,just shooting this pistol keeps getting better.Enjoy your K12 sport cheers
@@robertswyers4420 being a quadriplegic my left hand is pretty good with any trigger weight but I'm right handed. To get below 2.5lbs I needed the trigger kit and some polishing while in there. Thanks for watching and commenting!
It is more Tanfoglio than CZ. It still needs the "bolo disconnector" to tighten up the trigger reset to be like my Shadow2. Probably $350 additional and the original k12 cost $700 to get this to a CZ AccuShadow 2 level (CZ Custom Shop without that extream higher cost). I have enough CZ and 2011 pistols with that uber lever trigger and keep this k12 as it is.
Most Tanfoglio aftermarket parts fit. I found everything at Patriot Defense: BOLO and I can not remember the rest. CGW parts might work. Eric whatever in France.
I don't think I said "exact clone" because I've always thought it was better. Slide is lighter Slide is .1inch lower Trigger is lighter Trigger has shorter reset But it is a CZ licensed copy.
@@WheeledandWellArmed ha, yeah, on my well worked SP01 I've got a very nice short reset and I get the occasional double fire when I'm practicing trying to go fast. 😉
@@WheeledandWellArmed me too, on both accounts. I'm not much of a speed demon, that's for sure. I'm more slowish and deliberate. I actually find it more relaxing that way.
@@SEAKPhotog before the ammo shortage i was shooting 200 to 250 of 9mm weekly working not on speed but a fast cadence. Now I loading 5 rounds at a time and practicing mag changes.
Thank you for the video. I did the same independently, and I am glad to see the results are consistent. I will subscribe. :-) You should try adding the Patriot Defense Reduced Power Sear Spring. It helps a bit more. Btw to get reliable and consistent trigger pull readings, you need to pull painfully slowly. I have the same trigger gauge, and that is the recommendation I got from their support when I was getting results too low to believe.
Yes, you are right about the trigger gauge. Also if you press reset twice before the next pull, it will add a 0 to the average. 3, 4, 3, 3, 3/5 = 3.20 but 3, 4, 0, 3, 3, 3/6 = 2.666
hey quick question, does your k12 have a disconnect? the exploded view of parts on sarsilmaz's website shows that it doesn't have one and also just watched a video of a disassembly and there wasn't one on his
Sorry. Galloway was the magazine extension. "MCarbo CZ75 spring kit Reduce your CZ 75 Trigger Pull from a stock Double Action of ~9-11lbs to a modified ~5-7lbs, and a stock Single Action of ~4-5lbs to a modified ~2.5-3lbs Trigger Pull"
@@WheeledandWellArmed 0 rounds yet. I bought 2 weeks ago and started working on it. Hopefully I will get the slide today so I can shoot it. I took the slide to the gunsmith to put on the fiber optic front sight a week ago. If he hasn't done it by today I will pick it up and do it myself.
I have a SAR K12 sport that I purchased new that has a manufacturing defect. After many months of trying to get any type of return contact from SAR USA by telephone, email, website, and Facebook messages and posting on the SAR Facebook page, I say good luck to you if anything breaks or needs replaced on a SAR product. Their customer service borders on non-existent.
@@kurt6840 I spoke to him 4 times. The last time he said email me your address and I will send you 2 magazines. I didn't ask, he volunteered. But nothing came. No email response. He sounds like he might not be an email guy but a guy over a department but no team.
Sorry, you have to look for videos from 5+ years ago. YT will not allow us to make these today. This video series has everything you need. It worked for me. ruclips.net/video/2tf_jmfLzq0/видео.html
You are not the first to correct me. Maybe it was you everytime. Thank you for the pronunciation simplified. I need to redo the SAR K12 Sport against the CZ Shadow2 again, the K12 will do MUCH better. I'm going to redo the Tanfoglio Stock3 with $200 in parts (hammer, SAO trigger, bolo disconnector, firing pin and reduced springs) and polish. The SAR K12 will get lots of credit for being easier to upgrade. 👌
@@youmasajp Sorry just a southern dyslexic. I will try to stick with SAR. Are you Turkish? I spent 2 weeks backpacking clockwise around Turkey in 1997.
@@youmasajp Probably going forward I will only say SAR. Not just you, that held me to account for my mispronounced speech. There are words I just can't say when I only read them. I'm on RUclips because I do not have a gun culture or group of friends I can talk to daily. My Army buddies might have 1 to 5 guns but are not enthusiasts. I also mispronounce Tanfoglio but to-date no Italian has corrected me. I know I mispronounce Canik but no one corrects me on that Turkish word. I lived in Prague 3 years and the town of Sokolov 1 year and my Czech pronunciation is 90%, but most Americans can't say: Česká zbrojovka Uherský Brod.
I love the SAR K2 45, SAR K12 and SAR P8S. In fact, I have two K2 45. I'm dyslexic and have a hard time with the name. Get over being a pronunciation police or your job would be endless on my channel.
John i understand but RUclips frowns on take apart, polish and add aftermarket springs. Search "Tanfoglio Stock3 polish" his RUclips name is Memphis something, that was my tutorial. Internals are almost identical.
John, RUclips is not run by gun people. RUclips is ok with field stripping for cleaning, because that narrative is considered safety. But adding parts, even grips on a 1911 they do know if legal or not from state to state. Like adding an upright grip on an AR pistol and making it a SRB unless OAL is 26 inches. You have to find something 5 years old or off RUclips.
@@WheeledandWellArmed Thanks for your response I understand and accept your comment. I guess it's all about control it admin doesn't like or agree with the content. A very "media thing" it seems. to be a facebook etc "thing" as well. Removing freedoms is common the world over.
ruclips.net/video/mIZl-KhkkBA/видео.html most recent video
Would you please do a video of a complete disassembly of the K12 trigger component included thank you
Rules in RUclips have changed in the last three years drastically. The SAR K2 45 and K12 are closer to Tanfoglio than CZ75. Search "Memphis Tanfoglio Stock3" I learned watchmaking first but you will be fine with his instructions. If you have any specific questions. Email me at Wheeledandarmed@gmail.com.
Nobody wants to watch a quadriplegic attempt to put a .25mm second hand on an ETA movement 33 times.
that gun looks/shoots sharp sir and also you are a sharp shooter.
Thanks but this gun shoots by itself that well
very nice! i have a witness polymer frame i really like. great video!
I really want the Tanfoglio 10mm. How does yours shoot?
@@WheeledandWellArmed it is very accurate and i have not had a failure, regardless of the ammo used,
@@babyhulk5977 is that the compact or full size?
@@WheeledandWellArmed full sized, 16+1.
Thanks for the update.cheers!
The difference in the K12 Sport being new and 500 rounds it opened up and the trigger there would have been great for most people. The trigger polishing and the $25 Galloway Precision spring kit would make it equalized to an $1800 Tanfoglio. But 4 months ago I did not see this coming. BTW the inside parts all look Tanfoglio.
@@WheeledandWellArmed I too have been pleasantly surprised at this quality pistol.Its great for absorbing recoil and backon target instantly.Mine still has all the standard springs etc,just shooting this pistol keeps getting better.Enjoy your K12 sport cheers
@@robertswyers4420 being a quadriplegic my left hand is pretty good with any trigger weight but I'm right handed. To get below 2.5lbs I needed the trigger kit and some polishing while in there. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Nice job bud.
Thanks, I need to clean her.
Oh that gun is Tanfoglio Stock Custom damn
It is more Tanfoglio than CZ. It still needs the "bolo disconnector" to tighten up the trigger reset to be like my Shadow2.
Probably $350 additional and the original k12 cost $700 to get this to a CZ AccuShadow 2 level (CZ Custom Shop without that extream higher cost). I have enough CZ and 2011 pistols with that uber lever trigger and keep this k12 as it is.
Excellent shooting !👍
It's the gun. It would do that in most anyone's hand.
Excellent! Another video shoots 10m, 25m, etc?
7 yards
Hey I know it’s 4 years old but do you happen to know of a link of the parts I’ll need to do this I can find them
Most Tanfoglio aftermarket parts fit. I found everything at Patriot Defense: BOLO and I can not remember the rest. CGW parts might work. Eric whatever in France.
Is this gun a single action only? Would the spring kit work for a da/sa tanfoglio?
Yes SAO yes on the springs. But shoot it first. Factory fresh this K12 was better than the Tanfo Stock3 from the factory.
@@WheeledandWellArmed yea, I have the defiant stock master. Trigger decent but reset and to the wall are a bit long
I wish you were correct about it being an exact CZ clone. Barrel is NOT.
I don't think I said "exact clone" because I've always thought it was better.
Slide is lighter
Slide is .1inch lower
Trigger is lighter
Trigger has shorter reset
But it is a CZ licensed copy.
Nicely done. Trigger looks great. What further improvement would a Tanfo disconnect provide? Shorter reset?
Yes. Shorter reset. But this reset is nice, not sure i would want 1 or 2mm shorter. On my Shadow2 I get a double fire once a box of ammo.
@@WheeledandWellArmed ha, yeah, on my well worked SP01 I've got a very nice short reset and I get the occasional double fire when I'm practicing trying to go fast. 😉
@@SEAKPhotog it sort of freaks me out when no. t 100% in control. I wish I could double tap that close.
@@WheeledandWellArmed me too, on both accounts. I'm not much of a speed demon, that's for sure. I'm more slowish and deliberate. I actually find it more relaxing that way.
@@SEAKPhotog before the ammo shortage i was shooting 200 to 250 of 9mm weekly working not on speed but a fast cadence. Now I loading 5 rounds at a time and practicing mag changes.
Thank you for the video. I did the same independently, and I am glad to see the results are consistent. I will subscribe. :-)
You should try adding the Patriot Defense Reduced Power Sear Spring. It helps a bit more.
Btw to get reliable and consistent trigger pull readings, you need to pull painfully slowly. I have the same trigger gauge, and that is the recommendation I got from their support when I was getting results too low to believe.
Yes, you are right about the trigger gauge. Also if you press reset twice before the next pull, it will add a 0 to the average. 3, 4, 3, 3, 3/5 = 3.20 but 3, 4, 0, 3, 3, 3/6 = 2.666
hey quick question, does your k12 have a disconnect? the exploded view of parts on sarsilmaz's website shows that it doesn't have one and also just watched a video of a disassembly and there wasn't one on his
Yes, I think it is more like the Tanfoglio Bolo. I took everything out and everything was there. It has been a while so I can't remember it all.
which galloway kit did you use?
Sorry. Galloway was the magazine extension.
"MCarbo CZ75 spring kit
Reduce your CZ 75 Trigger Pull from a stock Double Action of ~9-11lbs to a modified ~5-7lbs, and a stock Single Action of ~4-5lbs to a modified ~2.5-3lbs Trigger Pull"
What was the trigger pool when you got it out of the box before you started your modifications?
Almost 5 lbs
Did you installed all the springs that came in the Galloway Presision kit? I am about to start installing mine.
Yes, everything together runs great
@@WheeledandWellArmed I installed the springs yesterday and polished all the internals. Trigger is breaking at 2lbs feels great.
@@katanapr3 what is the round count?. I dropped 1 lbs by shooting 500rds. I'm thinking about putting a SRO on mine.
@@WheeledandWellArmed 0 rounds yet. I bought 2 weeks ago and started working on it. Hopefully I will get the slide today so I can shoot it. I took the slide to the gunsmith to put on the fiber optic front sight a week ago. If he hasn't done it by today I will pick it up and do it myself.
@@katanapr3 have fun, please keep me updated. I think your trigger will go up .5lbs with the slide. But still a dream to shoot.
I have a SAR K12 sport that I purchased new that has a manufacturing defect. After many months of trying to get any type of return contact from SAR USA by telephone, email, website, and Facebook messages and posting on the SAR Facebook page, I say good luck to you if anything breaks or needs replaced on a SAR product. Their customer service borders on non-existent.
did you speak to Bill over their customer support? Here is his email bill@sarusa.com
P: 1-833-SAR-GUNS or
P: 1-833-727-4867
I believe that I emailed Bill. I shouldn’t be jumping through hoops for customer service.
@@kurt6840 I spoke to him 4 times. The last time he said email me your address and I will send you 2 magazines. I didn't ask, he volunteered. But nothing came. No email response. He sounds like he might not be an email guy but a guy over a department but no team.
You had Tanfo parts as your on screen correction - do you know if it runs on Tanfo magazines (Stock 2/3)?
A small frame Tanfoglio magazine is exactly the same as the CZ. The magazine release cut is in the wrong spot. SAR USA has plenty of magazines.
@@WheeledandWellArmed Thank you. Be nice not to have to buy more magazine extensions (or mags) but such is life I guess.
Does it take cz magazines
No, but the SAR P8S does. I have a video on it too.
Does it come in 40 cal?
Nope, Odd that they wouldn't make it in 40sm
You couldn’t show us how you installed it? Geeesh old timer…
Sorry, you have to look for videos from 5+ years ago. YT will not allow us to make these today. This video series has everything you need. It worked for me.
ruclips.net/video/2tf_jmfLzq0/видео.html
BTW i think this is my first time being called an "old timer". Good luck sonny boy!
@@WheeledandWellArmed Lol all love!
In all videos, you have problems pronouncing Sarsilmaz. Try to pronounce it like this Sahr-sill-mazz.
You are not the first to correct me. Maybe it was you everytime. Thank you for the pronunciation simplified. I need to redo the SAR K12 Sport against the CZ Shadow2 again, the K12 will do MUCH better. I'm going to redo the Tanfoglio Stock3 with $200 in parts (hammer, SAO trigger, bolo disconnector, firing pin and reduced springs) and polish. The SAR K12 will get lots of credit for being easier to upgrade. 👌
@@WheeledandWellArmed it was not me, I found the channel yesterday night. :-)
@@youmasajp Sorry just a southern dyslexic. I will try to stick with SAR. Are you Turkish? I spent 2 weeks backpacking clockwise around Turkey in 1997.
@@WheeledandWellArmed no, I am not Turkish. :-) I had some colleagues from there and asked them to confirm the pronunciation.
@@youmasajp Probably going forward I will only say SAR. Not just you, that held me to account for my mispronounced speech. There are words I just can't say when I only read them. I'm on RUclips because I do not have a gun culture or group of friends I can talk to daily. My Army buddies might have 1 to 5 guns but are not enthusiasts. I also mispronounce Tanfoglio but to-date no Italian has corrected me. I know I mispronounce Canik but no one corrects me on that Turkish word. I lived in Prague 3 years and the town of Sokolov 1 year and my Czech pronunciation is 90%, but most Americans can't say: Česká zbrojovka Uherský Brod.
If you cant pronounce the name, you should practice it before you critique it. SAR SIL MAZ - fun with phonics.
I love the SAR K2 45, SAR K12 and SAR P8S. In fact, I have two K2 45. I'm dyslexic and have a hard time with the name. Get over being a pronunciation police or your job would be endless on my channel.
I found this a bit of a waste of time. I would have wanted to see the actual parts that were polished not all this waffle
John i understand but RUclips frowns on take apart, polish and add aftermarket springs. Search "Tanfoglio Stock3 polish" his RUclips name is Memphis something, that was my tutorial. Internals are almost identical.
John, RUclips is not run by gun people. RUclips is ok with field stripping for cleaning, because that narrative is considered safety. But adding parts, even grips on a 1911 they do know if legal or not from state to state. Like adding an upright grip on an AR pistol and making it a SRB unless OAL is 26 inches. You have to find something 5 years old or off RUclips.
@@WheeledandWellArmed Thanks for your response I understand and accept your comment. I guess it's all about control it admin doesn't like or agree with the content. A very "media thing" it seems. to be a facebook etc "thing" as well. Removing freedoms is common the world over.
nice grouping
Thinks i took shooting today a first time shooter, well he hadn't shot in 30 years and only revolvers.