It makes about as much sense as yelling and screaming. Your words louder when someone speaks a different language and doesn't understand the language that you're speaking, doesn't make them understand it or make it any more correct, but I equate these kids to that type of person
That tiktok kid needed to CHILL. He spoke faster than Ben Shapiro. I could barely follow half his points because of that. Also he needed to check his attitude. Did not help his case at all
The second time I saw him sit down I skipped. I got major anxiety. He wasn’t there to listen, understand, or have a productive conversation, a lot of them weren’t . Just kidding. He’s on there a third time. Holy crap. My head.
That's because none of his arguments make any sense, so he just spewed a ton at once. It's a legitimate cheating tactic in debates, because the ability to spew bullshit is much faster than the ability to correct it. How you counter this is by excluding the bullshitter from serious debate.
They criticize Trump for bringing up extremes in debates like Haitian immigrants eating people's pets in Ohio but they use extremes like rape and incest in abortion, 5-year olds giving birth, and intersex people in trans debates. I think these extremes should be debated separately. The minority shouldn't be the thing we use to dictate rules for the majority.
A 5 year old literally can't give birth anyway. A little girl would need to have her first menses or be right before in order to get pregnant. To my understanding no 5 year olds are capable of getting pregnant. You would be looking at more like 7 or 8.
I feel that a general concensus should be established before dealing with the extreme cases. For example, After much discussion we've decided that these are the rules for abortion, now lets talk about cases that might be exceptions. You shouldn't just permit whatever because there might be an exception.
If you are uncomfortable hearing graphic responses, then don’t bring up graphic debates lmao. You are literally proving her point when you say it’s to graphic
This was a very interesting but also really pathetic debate. I’m very intrigued to see if they are going to do the opposite and put 25 conservative young adults against one liberal. It would be interesting to see how that would turn out and see if it would be as chaotic as this one lol.
No one "ate up" Charlie. Dean maybe came the closest and Charlie complimented him in the moment. Parker probably thinks he ate Charlie up, but really just had high-speed word vomit.
I can't decide who was more annoying: the fast talking guy who threw red herrings around about child marriage in the past or the woman who resorted to personal insults about Charlie's smile when she had nothing else.
As a Catholic, I don’t agree necessarily with the premise that they should’ve brought a secular person to this debate, because Charlie is not the one bringing religion into the debate. Every single time it was mentioned, it was first brought out by the students and then he told them repeatedly to get back to the subject at hand. When they didn’t, that’s when he responded to their religious arguments. So is not on Charlie, but on the students.
They can't use religious arguments on someone who's secular because pointing out flaws in religious beliefs wouldn't actually reveal contradictions in that specific person's logic. So you wouldn't have to deal with all those arguments and hopefully move onto more substantial points. That's what she meant, she wasn't blaming Charlie lmao.
Amala, I actually already watched this video on Jubilee’s channel and it was so exhausting and infuriating that I told myself I’d never watch it again. But then I see that you’re reacting to it, so I put myself through that torture all over again 😭 Girl if that ain’t true love, I don’t know what is 😂😂
I actually intentionally don't want Jubilee's videos since much of the time they are infuriating to watch alone but watching with Amala's reaction makes them much easier to stomach.
@@legitlyspelunkingI support abortion but I would never refer to a fetus as a parasite because it’s delusional. I don’t believe abortion should be glorified, glamorized nor used as a form of birth control. I fully accept and respect those who don’t support abortion and I fully accept and respect myself and others who support abortion. Therefore there is zero argument in my opinion to have on abortion because it’s truly a pointless debate on my opinion. But I think allowing the people of each state to have the vote on abortion is as rational as it gets
Well the word fetus for starters isn't to describe a developmental stage of human gestation. Fetus just means offspring in Latin. It's a latin word to describe one's child or children.
@@jeanlarge4050Almost like…it’s her show….She can pause it whenever she wants….that’s why you came to watch her video and not the original, uninterrupted version…???
Whether someone is religious or not, its fascinating when someone just disregards it because "they dont believe it." Whether I believe there is a tree in front of me or not, doesn't change the fact that the tree is there.
Back in highschool debate we learned a term called "spewing" (talking very fast and loud/ not letting the other person talk) Worked everytime. Now i see spewing so juvenile and dishonest. This isn't highschool babe🙏
Being rude and screaming doesn’t make you a good debater/arguer. These people are insufferable. I don’t even want to be near them. You think you’re smarter than me? Congrats. Lol
I would like to say, simply because I heard Amala bring up this argument a couple times as possibly legitimate, my husband was one of those stereotypical “you should have been aborted cases” (and he’s been told this to his face). He was born the fifth child (fourth dad) to a drug addicted, suicidal mother. He was born premature at only two pounds, his skin still translucent. He and his siblings lived in poverty (five kids sleeping in a pallet on the floor of the living room, he’d eat dog food because he was hungry, etc.). He walked in on one of his mother’s suicide attempts, and she later died of accidental overdose when he was 6. He and his sister closest in age went to live with his dad, who was abusive and later married a woman who refused to be medicated for bipolar disorder and was also abusive as a result. He dropped out his junior year to escape the home. He ended up in a series of toxic relationships and one night stands, becoming addicted to drugs and alcohol, fully expecting he’d die young. By just about every metric, he’d be a “justifiable” abortion, someone who’d have been “better off” not being born. But after we met, he turned his life around. Now he’s clean, we’re very happily married, and we have two beautiful children and one on the way. He has a job that he enjoys and excels at. He went from not caring if he died to working to be healthier so he can live to see his grandchildren, feeling so blessed for the life he was given, despite his traumatic start. He argues that EVERY child deserves a chance, because a rocky beginning doesn’t mean they won’t have a wonderful, successful, love-filled life later down the road. I know not everyone will agree with him, but that’s his story.
Amen 🙏🏽❤️ And Praise God for your husband and for you and your family! What a beautiful testimony that shows just how precious EVERY SINGLE LIFE is! 🙌🏽
I'm a child abuse and family abuse survivor and constantly get told how better it would be if I was dead. I have a wonderful life now and am actively healing my past trauma.
@@rosal5802 people that major in psychology tend to be narcissistic, that's just my experience tho. I had the same experience with people going into nursing, they were all the mean girls in high school that are so self-centered they don't realize they were the bullies. totally just my anecdotal perspective, I know other people have different experiences, but I am giving my 2 cents.
Every time I hear Amala's view on this stuff, it amazes me how much we agree on how to go about it, and how to talk about something. The only difference is Amala does a better job of explaining her point of view and knowing how to work it into these debates than I ever would.
Thank you! I came to the comments literally to say this exact thing. Even if someone is religious, that doesn't negate the scientific fact of life beginning at conception.
The exploratorium in San Francisco actually had a display around 10 years ago that was about life cycles and it was using real chicken eggs to show it. The first display was literally labeled "Life begins at fertilization". The "bunch of cells" argument is just a lie to help people feel better.
@@Strangeworkings Meh ... that sounds a lot like wibbly wobbly logic. Biology was pretty clear at where life begins with mammals. What discipline applies that supercedes biology?
Parker is only good with debating because he dodges questions by overpowering you with quick thinking. He doesn't refute your argument, he just presents you with a counter-question that often times doesn't make sense.
Parker doesn't know what he is talking about and talks over people witch makes them stumble,if Charlie could speak 5 seconds without Parker interrupting,the conversation could go somewhere
Charlie kept interrupting other people too. His energy may not have been as bad as Parker‘s, but he didn’t always let other people finish their sentences.
People are so focused on “winning” the argument and/or debate instead of an opportunity to learn. this goes for both sides. And I am a fan of Charlie. But it’s something I struggle with too.
No one ate Charlie up, in my opinion. All these young folks showed me was how clueless, disrespectful, entitled, and immoral they really are. And they are our future. God help us all.
This is the first time I have watched a Jubilee before Amala’s reaction and I’m loving it even more with her commentary. You NEED to be in one of these Amala!!!
@@caromavi6476 I have a feeling he could hold his own with scholars too. Would love to see it at some point. Maybe take on some of the professors at these universities. I believe people like Michael Knowles have asked but they decline or back out last minute.
I don’t normally leave comments because people online are pretty nasty, but as a mother still recovering from a traumatic birth, what a terrible insult to say that women are defined by typically feminine traits like putting on makeup or liking to crochet. Women have such strength, dealing with constantly changing hormones, painful periods, bringing a child into to this world, because let’s be honest pregnancy and childbirth are hellish. They take on such a large burden, in the household DESPITE most marriages being joint income. Yet despite these factors, women are incredibly compassionate, kind, and protective. This is why so many women are liberal in a political and social sense, they are empathetic and want to help others. But that obviously cannot always be done, and reality cannot be subjective for a society to thrive. A great example of this is immigration, we are told that all of these people need help but the majority of illegal (not legal) immigrants are actually trafficking drugs and children, while not paying any form of taxes creating a deficit of income taxes, and therefore increased taxes. In my opinion, be what you want to be and live your life, but do not tell me that your subjective reality is objective reality and do not tell me that putting on a dress and a wig defines womanhood because it doesn’t.
Had to downvote because you are speaking as if women are a monolith, a hivemind, all clones of each other. We are all very, very different despite the veneer of our biological sex unifying us under shared experiences. Not all women give birth. Not all women have painful periods. Not all women experience cramps so bad they throw up and pass out. Not all women are strong and ride the hormones as gracefully as you painted it. Not all women are virtuous, least of all not because we are female. If you want to stop making women a costume, the first step is to recognize that women are not all the same. Similar features =/= unity. After we acknowledge that and respect that some women are punk goths while others are demure housewives and others are Rosie the Riviter and others are designing biometric prosthetics, THEN we can lambast the insulting men trying to act as if cosplaying magically changes your body.
Love this comment, especially when you were describing womanhood related to the physical demanding parts of being a woman- childbirth, hormone changes, etc.
But that is true though. When you describe a woman, it isn't based on whether or not she gives birth(implying women to can't give birth are not women), nor is it their chromosomes(I would hope you don't walk up to people and ask what chromosomes they have), nor is it about whether they have female sex organs or not. We all have a fairly good idea of what a woman is, and it has nothing to do with those aspects. There are traits we define woman by, and their are traits that we define men by, and it is nothing to do with deeper aspects relating to sex or gender.
@@voidtempering8700 Shocker, RUclips shadow banned a comment I made saying this same thing. Still got the thread notification and the screen shot. Hopefully yours will stay so at least everyone can see that giving birth =/= womanhood.
@@voidtempering8700 Nah. It's people who're trying to redefine the word woman because they don't want it to link back to unchangeable biological fact. Thats why they end up with circular definitions and behavioural based definitions (which tend to be circular as well). A woman is a person typically born with a vagina, with typically lower testosterone, higher estrogen and XX chromosomes, who typically ovulates and can give birth. They have their development geared towards traits that are evidently different from a man. There are tons of physical and biological traits that determine what a woman is. Everything else is a mutation or variation of that. You can't give birth but you have XX chromosomes, a vagina, and boobs. You're a woman. A human born with 6 fingers on each hand, not 5 isn't not a human being because of his mutation. We know what a woman is. Dont reduce to something subjective and man made.
That's the problem with pro choicers, conceding to the fact that it's life just as plants are alive, doesn't make you wrong. But the way they understand "life" or "alive" is like being human and having life means you're supposed to give them moral value. But life at conception isn't worth a thing
as a gay man who dislikes charlie kirk: i got 2nd hand embarrassment every time the students spoke. incoherent arguments and desperate to get their points across. charlie kirk did great.
That’s how far leftism works. It’s based on outrage emotion instead of calm and logic, for the most part of what I’ve seen. They like insults and yelling. It’s what they are raised on via social media. It’s why they applauded when the woman that came on with bad faith super far off niche arguments and personal attacks left with another personal insult to Charlie.
@@vincentdarkrosrayne Almost every discussing I've ever tried to have with them on any sort of serious issue ends with them yelling and insulting. It is absolutely all about emotions.
@@SpiritWolf209 i had a far leftist rate me a 1 star on uber on July 4th just because i asked them if they were celebrating the day. they then told me they hate America and proceeded to say every reason why. and because i asked them to explain more instead of agreeing with them and told them to have a good evening i got a 1 star and a complaint that i was rude. keep in mind i barely said a word that entire ride and just listened. XD and i rarely have gotten any bad ratings in my 10 years of uber driving so i generally know who gives me bad ratings. and most of the time its people trying to bum a free ride from the platform via a complain and refund. far right people are much more back and forth then talking about their beliefs.
Same exact feeling for me. Took me 3 times to watch this through. All these students do is raise their voices instead of their arguments. They become vindictive verbally and just attack him personally. Or, like Parker become so condescending while speaking non-sense and claiming they are winning the argument and stumping him. Kuddoes to Kirk for his patience. That is basically what I got out of this: Kirk showing godly patience to these misguided humans.
I hate how literally everyone on TikTok is so brainwashed by woke ideology to the point they wholeheartidly believe that this Parker kid genuinely brought up good arguments. All this kid did was talk fast and not let Kirk get to any of his points. People are excusing this by stating that Kirk apparently didn't let people talk either but this is simply not true. Even if it was, that does not excuse these kids' attitude... Honerabel mention: "No I'm speaking🗣 No I'm speaking🗣 No I'm speaking🗣 No I'm speaking🗣" is NOT an argument and just shows how little respect that girl had... Actual braindead people on that show
Debating with KIDS who have no life experience nor actual valuable perspective. I know it's common for kids to think they know everything but.. it's really much worse these days...
It's exactly the same as debating anyone. People on both sides are massively informed and live in an echo-chamber of their own ideologies. You just believe whatever your side is telling you, it's just as bad on the right as it is on the left.
@@FreedomAintFree-ol6fy "Adults" more like. These days even most people at their ages in countries as privileged as the US don't have to actually grow up and mature. This isn't excusing their ignorance or narcissism, but it's a sad state we're in regardless.
@@Strangeworkings it's actually not. But that's the fault of the left, having given their reigns over to the progressive "woke" far left. Because of how far their side has pushed it has made even classical liberals, moderates and independents now have more in common with the right. (not to mention the outspoken Left basically consider all those groups "right" or even "far right" for disagreeing with them on anything. Unlike the Left, the current day Right is not in concert with their extreme factions (neo-yatzis, white-nationalist, hardcore militia types).
@Strangeworkings I don't think it's as bad on the right. On the right, you can disagree on the smallest thing without being called a racist, bigot, homophobe or "literally Hitler."
That kid Parker has so much pride in his own intellect that he can't even answer a prompt first before going off the rails. He's was *so* hyper focused on his 'gotcha' moment for his for his social media, he doesn't realize he failed at debating. Lol These kids were insufferable. The louder and faster you speak over people doesn't mean you 'ate' and stringing various words together at 2x speed without giving the other person a chance to respond to your point is not a debate at that point. These kids will become the victims of their own arrogance. Pride comes before a fall.
Well it is Republicans who are trying to remove sex education so that removal might be part of it. Both sides should encourage sex education idk why other Republicans are so against it.
Ooof. I agree with some views of Kirk, and even though the girl bringing up 10 year olds girl being forced upon was insufferable…I am pretty shocked that Charlie would stoop that low and say that children who get pregnant should not have access to an abortion . Like, C’mon dude. Not EVERYTHING is so black and white
Same, for me that was such an extreme take. That’s a situation where abortion is absolutely justified and critical for the 10 year olds health, at that age the body is not ready to be pregnant and could lead to serious risks for her.
half of what he says I agree with but it’s this type of stuff that makes me wonder😭 I think when it’s his religious stances being brought into it it gets iffy
@@Bobbobbity-e5g obviously if their pregnant you dingleberry. wtf does that have to do with anything? Their ten. Giving birth at that age is insane. I’d help my child abort immediately. Young woman can start cycles very early rarely and that means puberty. Doesn’t mean their brain has developed enough to deal with such things
I’d be worried about the physical trauma on top of the emotional trauma! To deliver that small is insane. A ten year old shouldn’t conceptually understand birth and what that means. You can’t ask for their opinion because they don’t know.
The 5 year old is an extremely rare case and a child that was suffering from precocious period. That is too young for a female to menstruate. But, that chick is an awful person. The way she acted and spoke was nasty and mean spirited.
That’s what infuriates me, Lina Medina (the 5 year old) developed very early (there are articles that debate of when she developed, one say that at 3 months old she had pubic hair and most of them say she menstruated at 2 years old). The girl was abused BUT her case is very rare she was the only 5 year old pregnant, bringing her on the conversation is not helping the point do to the cases of pregnancy before 10 are below 100. So saying “what if your daughter at 10< years old is 🍇ed” is like it doesn’t matter. In Lina’s case the baby was delivered by C-section, both were SAFE and live a normal life after that. That girl annoyed me, and the worst thing is that TikTok support her
❤I was 7 when i hit puberty. 8 with breast. 9 with menses. Day before 4th grade began. The sex talk was embarrassing. So was asking my male gym teacher if i could skip class for cramps. I cant imagine how that poor girl felt.... or how someone could be so nasty. I was raped as my first sexual experience at 15 by a man 20+ in age... groomed me for a yr. Sadly he served no time. Im thankful Plan B exists. That man was dangerous as hes now serving prison time for 35 yrs, murder. Killed his own father. How fckd up is that?! Gets out in 2037.... currently all parole has been denied.
@@LASB208 I couldn't agree more on the tiktok part, ppl on tiktok r so ignorant, I thought I was seriously in the wrong bc I actually supported most of what Charlie said, but then I opened yt, I like yt comments, while I disagree with most of them, ppl here on yt actually use their brains and most of their statements make sense
Love how Charlie went out of his way to express that Parker had a great point, and as soon as Parker had chance to do the same he started talking sh*t about how he thought he was mopping the floor with Charlie. Goes to show who the adult in the room is
I honestly hate both sides sometimes. It’s always an extreme vs another extreme. You should always prioritize the life and health of the mother. There should be a cutoff period, but that time should be flexible and a discussion between the mother and doctor.
and they think they're "winning a debate" and have to deliberately mention that upon themselves in the middle of the debate to give them the ego boost that they need to win a debate.
Also, no one seemed to notice that Parker's definition of what a woman is, was basically a long winded way of saying "someone who identifies as a woman", ie utter nonsense.
Can we just talk about how she used an incorrect definition for the word parasite?! A parasite is one of three types of symbiotic relationships between different species.. Mutualism, Commensalism, and Parasitism. Parasitism is defined as one species benefits and the other is harmed. Commensalism is defined as one species benefits and the other is not harmed nor benefits. Mutualism is defined as both species benefit. Again this is between two or more different species and the parasitic relationship involves the other being harmed. People who don't understand the vocabulary they are using (especially scientific) kill me🤦♀️
This. I instantly thought of brood parasitism. Parasites do not need to live _inside_ the host. Under their argument, a child remains a parasite until adulthood.
Just an idea, the whole rushing to the chair problem could be solved if they used a buzzer or something. If Jubilee gave each of them a buzzer, the first person that buzzed in should be allowed to take to the chair. That would save a lot of embarrassment. I’m only 5 mins into the vid and came up with that 😂
I only made it as far as the trans debate. These people are insufferable. And the ones who weren’t, the ones who were gracious and conciliatory… they were drowned out by the annoying ones. I dunno how you watched all of that 🤣 I hate that this format made them get under Charlie Kirk’s skin. He’s an excellent debater. Calm and level headed. But this debate style made everyone on edge. Not a fan
It’s good that you noticed the “quiet one.” Always remember that the loudest people get the most air time, it doesn’t make them the majority. The media loves to sensationalize and is partly responsible for the current tension between the left & the right.
I was r’d at 12. I gave birth and gave my child to a family that couldn’t have children but really wanted them. My child grew up in love and I am grateful to the family that loved them
The part of Bible about Isaac, God wanted to not only test the believers' obedience but show that He's not going to accept human sacrifices that other people did in other beliefs/cultures. Nothing of the sort of God forgetting to tell Abraham "Oh, it's just a prank, bro, jk". Also I don't fully like when people (from both sides) bring in the religion arguments to the discussion especially when debating non-belivers/people of different beliefs (unless it's about religion obviously).
It was also a representation of Christ…God sent a lamb in the place of Issac showing how God would bring the lamb for sacrifice for all sins and that the death penalty would be taken from us and put onto Jesus
@@NeonKue so what? Saying "because God says so" is weak argument, especially for non-belivers. Even as christian I'd rather use/hear logical and scientific arguments since in my experience those were almost never in conflict with the religion ones.
@@archi5461 Where else would you learn to differentiate bad from good? Murder, adultery, theft. We humans are evil savages out the womb and need guidance from a “father” to build our morals and values in life. Logic is manmade reasoning of society’s principles *today* which are subject to change at any time. Majority opinion if you will. Science never in conflict with religion? Are you serious? Evolution, supernatural, medical miracles, *faith* . Can science explain, measure, or reproduce any of that?
In a day and age where we KNOW how and when babies are made AND have dozens of birth control options available just in the last 30 years there really is NO excuse to not take responsibility and accountability to make sure you do NOT need an abortion.
I want to see a group of conservative people surrounding a liberal. I’m genuinely curious what the talking points would be and how all involved would handle it.
We all know the one liberal would rage quit, or just break down screaming ad hominem. Honestly most liberals can't actually debate anymore, it's all unseasoned and undercooked red herring shoved down your throat and they insult you if you complain.
My moral ground is that babies should not be having babies. Rape and incest victims should not be forced to bear the child of their attacker. And women who have pregnancies that are not viable, or that will kill them, not be forced to bleed out in a parking lot or go to another state to have they’re already dead fetus removed from their body.. I don’t condone abortion as a form of birth control. But I believe that there are situations in which it should be available.
Why do people always argue from extremes? Babies will have babies when they have sex. Just because someone got pregnant from a nonconsensual scenario, it doesn’t make it any less of a baby. Either it’s a vulnerable life or it’s not. Be consistent.
@@AliciatheCho and at the same time, the baby did nothing wrong, it shouldn't be aborted because of its father's actions. About the teen pregnancy part, if a teen has sex, then they should take responsibility for the baby if they get pregnant, having abortion available for teens in my opinion would send the message that it's ok for them to sleep around in middle/high school
1. Abortion is never medically necessary ever (thats been proven now by many OBGYNs) 2. Rape/incest cases are 1% of abortions and its rare that the victim will become pregnant
I Worked for the campus police for Columbia university for ten years, from 2008 to 2018. My first year there I was assigned to escort this high school class of 15/16 year olds around. When we got to the earth science dept the class was addressed by the head of environmental sciences. I can't remember her name but she was the dean in charge of the dept. Anywho, when asked if anyone had any questions one girl asked how they could stop the biosphere from total collapse if we didn't stop using fossil fuels before the decade was out. To which the dean assured her that while destructive to the environment, the biosphere wasn't going to collapse. To which this girl And several others INCLUDING THE LATE 20s SOMETHING TEACHER said that it most certainly was going to collapse. After a brief back and forth, and by which time the girl that first asked the question was almost screaming and almost hyperventilating, the dean, a woman that must have had more degrees, doctorates & PH.Ds 35 years before any of these kids were born, just said well ok have a good day and left. Many of these students, most of all I'M TALKING, NO I'M TALKING, really reminded me of this girl.
I mean, to be fair to that girl. She was brainwashed her entire school career to think the earth was gonna blow up tomorrow because of the ozone layer/amazon forest/polar caps/volcano eruption/mega earthquake.
@@applesdust8020 After my second year working at Columbia I became an almost exclusive dorm officer & as such you get to know "Your" residents very well. You get to know their families & quirks. Personalities & people they're dating. And a few of them turn out to be the type that stop by the desk and chat when nothing is happening or during breaks. And as I wrote in other comment sections about the mainstream media & teaching, I had many conversations with students from both the Columbia university school of Journalism & Teachers college. Students from the school of Journalism have told me on more occasions than I can count that their professors told them that the "old fashioned" way of impartial Journalism where you would report only the facts of a story and allow the readers/watchers of the news to decide for themselves what they thought was in fact allowing racism, sexism & homophobia to flourish. That they had a duty to be "An ally of the marginalized & dispossessed in their reporting" (which is why the news stopped being the news & became propaganda outlets for the DNC. Students at Teachers college (who didn't live in my dorm but whom once did & knew me then) told me much the same thing. That it wasn't their job to teach the ABCs 123s, reading & science but to (once again) be "An ally of the marginalized & dispossessed in their teaching by instilling in their student a sense of the social injustice of the current system (which it most Certainly is Not). Now this didn't start yesterday. It's been going on for at least 2 decades now which would explain that teacher's attitude as well. RUclips hates links so if you search youtube for a video named To Pass as ‘Normal’, Kids Must be ‘Queer’ and you go to 17:20 James Lindsay is just a master of explaining this. I think you'll be amazed.
Parker's take on the genotype of Jesus was so dumb... I'm an atheist, but even I can comprehend that God didn't put half his genotype inside of Mary. That's where the miracle part comes
I'm definitely glad it was Charlie in this video because he's pretty much the only one that could handle leftists that were THAT rude and insufferable! He's an excellent debater!
It should also be noted that while they did exclude women from the olympics, they could compete in other competitions...in their own category. Even they knew that males and females are different. I believe the only sport they allowed women and men to compete together was chariot racing.
Parker talking over Charlie, never letting him respond or finish his points and then bragging about how he is winning the debate was giving me second hand embarrassment. The other people just seemed uninformed, but Parker was so cringe to watch.
It was extremely inappropriate to clap. They KNOW it's 25 people who are here against ONE FUCKING PERSON to deliberately have a civilized debate. She was being completely vulgar and should have explained that evil offspring is still evil. That ruining a good child's life for that of an evil do-ers child to be born is wrong. I agree with him on most things but his stance on abortion is bias because his religion. Regardless, that was bullying, it was a power move, and was nothing but a rally to absolute childish behavior. What disgusting mindsets these people have.
Lmfao, what do you have to say for yourself after the latest Jubilee video in this format? You’ve got Dean (a teenage liberal) vs 20+ adult Trump supporters. They seemed to clap as much as they want just like the liberals did in this video.
I'm one of those unwanted children and I'm an abortion abolitionist. I love my life and so does my adult nephew who was also one of those children. Im glad neither of us were aborted.
I’m pro-choice and I won’t participate in the mental Olympics that it takes to dehumanize a fetus or make it seem like abortion isn’t ending a life…it is ending a potential life. But I do think the woman who is an active member of society, has relationships, speaks, etc. is more important to protect than the fetus. This is why I also believe abortion should be regulated and shouldn’t be allowed past a certain point in the pregnancy.
No common ground I am afraid. There is no protecting the women. It is simply deflection. Pregnencies are normal and not life threatening(for overwhelming majority). Only when the mothers life is in strict danger( and I am talking life and death can abortion be allowed) . Otherwise no
So we should overlook the consequences of irresponsible sex from a woman who is an active member of society, has relationships, speaks, etc.? Does a man who is an active member of society, has relationships, speaks, etc. have the Pro-Choice to not pay child support then?
@@NeonKue Your example is quite irrelevant. Child support is payed once the child is given birth. Both parents are required to pay child birth (with the one already having to take care of the child already counts as child support essentially) But the man doesn't have to carry the child. The woman however does. Most pro-choice are those who support the act of removing the child before it is given birth to. Idk about others but I think most are pro-choice because there are rape cases and not viable births. For rape cases, I think it's pretty obvious who's gonna be the one to suffer here, both physically, mentally and maybe financially as well. Maybe in some countries, child support laws differ but, using common sense, the rape victim, is gonna be the one to raise the child, essentially already providing child support so your example doesn't make sense.
@@gumoa2866 But with abortion, usually people who are pro-choice say it should solely be the woman's decision and that the man should not have a say at all. So if the man doesn't want the child but the women does, why should he then be forced to pay for the _woman's_ decision? Either give both parties a say in abortion (which most pro-choicers are against) or give the man an option to opt out of fatherhood. It's only fair.
@@gumoa2866 But with abort!on, usually people who are pro-choice say it should solely be the woman's decision and that the man should not have a say at all. So if the man doesn't want the child but the women does, why should he then be forced to pay for the _woman's_ decision? Either give both parties a say (which most pro-choicers are against) or give the man an option to opt out of fatherhood and not pay for child support. It's only fair.
Religion has no right in this convo. Unless a person is Christian, Christian perspective is none of the question. Nor should it be pushed on another. That was be no different than outlawing Mass or prayer groups. Freedom of Religion means freedom from it too.
That one of the things i dislike about the abortion debate. Most (not all) pro-life people are religious and use the moral absolute of their religion to argue against abortion. But no one is required to follow religious doctrine. There is a non religious argument against abortion, but it still involves forcing people who accidentally conceive (condom/pill failed) to have the baby they didn't want and tried to avoid having. Which doesn't sit well with me.
😂 It's the catchphrase "Weird." I guess you haven't met actual people who are glad their mom decided not to abort them. My friend & coworker are thriving good people even knowing what has happened to their mom. Proud of the choice their mom made. So I guess it's weird. 🤷 "A child should not be punished for the sin of thy father." To each of their own
Ok But if you're not Christian. Then Christian perspective has no place. Freedom to practice your religion means the right to Freedom from religion too. Not everyone believes in (the) Satan. 'The' as it was in the original texts. It's a job title. Not a being proper. The idea of Lucifer to be Satan was a much, much later concept. Early Medieval even. It's a misunderstanding of biblical scripture that was inserted to for the greater power of the church. The very idea of Satan as it stands is a massive falsity of the religion. So even to apply the concept there, invalidates the argument off the bat. Merely by showing an improper and inadequate knowledge of the religion in question to begin with.
@@SnailShoeshow is it a misunderstanding if Lucifer is referred to as the Satan in the scripture? I genuinely don’t understand what you’re trying to say
@@SnailShoes it sounds like you're wanting to have a more serious discussion and I'm not sure the RUclips comment section is the place for it. Your knowledge and drive might be better suited for some other forum where it can be put to better use.
I don’t think having a Christian view complicates things. The kid that’s trying to point at Christianity as a tangent is just using an ad homonym argument. Basically he wants to discredit his other points because not everybody’s going to agree with a Christian point of view. Invalid argument.
@@AMKmusic96that’s the point, the girl who acted as if the definition of fetus wasn’t relevant when it has the same translation in the English language. Many words in modern language stem from the Latin language thanks to my ancestors from Italy. Props to them
Parker is insufferable. Sure others were rude too. But Parker didnt let Charlie speak, and just rapid fired everything. His smugness and ego only made it worse.
Hi guys! Boise girl here! THANK YOU for this video...I am pro choice AND pro life...I know that is probably hard to get but I guess I just feel like certain things in our lives are so deeply personal. I understand both sides but certainly side with Charlie on almost everything. I appreciate listening and actually HEARING the woke debaters here, except when they get their emotions all out of sorts. When will they learn that facts do not care about emotions. While some are certainly educated, not well, but are articulate in getting points across. I am still watching and I have learned a few things that I didn't know either. I am about enlightenment in the way that ALLOWS ME to change my mind based on new evidence. I have changed my mind on several issues over the years. It's called experience, something their college can't pay for. Love you guys!
There was an actress that did an interview that I really liked, where she said her dad explained it to her as: women should have access to abortion but it should not be normalized & publicly discussed as it is today.
Not to gotcha but the *fact* you say “I just feel” about life/choice then to state “facts don’t care about emotions” about the way these kids think is quite contradicting. I can respect that you’re willing to be enlightened and learn so I encourage you to find the morality in Pro-Life over personal feelings of modern society that made these kids woke.
@@NeonKue what makes you think I support 'woke' anything? When I said it is 'deeply personal' what I meant is that people need to start keeping some things to themselves. No one would be able to judge them if they didn't announce every aspect of their lives. Please, save your condescending attitude for someone who will tolerate it. Who do you THINK you are anyways? LOL! It actually sounds like you and I are on the same page but you can take your 'got cha' and shove it.
@@NeonKue You can feel pro-life all you want but you don't have to go out of your way to say that people who are pro-choice are woke. I am not pro-choice nor pro-life. I respect people who has pro-life beliefs as long as they don't try to make abortion illegal or insult pro-choice. I want you to see it from the viewpoint of a victim. I also tried to see it from a viewpoint as the baby who would be aborted. There is a lot that goes into it. I respect whoever wants to be pro-life but just don't impose your views on others, especially victims of rape.
@@gumoa2866 Pro-Choice is a feelings based idea supported by those woke to discrimination so birds of a feather. Lol There is no neutrality in between, you’re either with one or the other and based on your reluctance, you’re obviously Pro-Choice without saying it. How about we limit Abortions to ONLY r4pe cases then? Every Abortion must come with a court approval showing dna samples from the convicted suspect. That means no more Abortions cus of accidental pregnancies, would you support that then? I know women who’ve had 3 abortions and have no shame about it, they treat life like trash cus they don’t want to be accountable and take responsibility for their actions.
A religious person can still debate, but said person must ignore their beliefs in a no religious debate like this. If your stance is true then you could prove it without religion.
As a European Liberal this makes me go mad...being so emotionally invested in the most generic topics is stupid enough but not even being able to acknowledge literal scientific facts and repeating the others over and over again is bonkers to me. These students shouldn't represent liberal viewpoints for millions to watch...
I love how the lady moved away from talking about the 10 year old and focused on the 5 year old. Especially because the 5 year old's father was unknown, and the 10 year old's father was her mother's boyfriend, and they were specifically trying to get the abortion not because they felt sorry for the child (not *specifically,* even if the mother might have a bit), but because the mother wanted to get rid of the evidence of her boyfriend's pedophilia. Nice job there, lady. Thank god Mr. Kirk didn't know that one specific story, because he would have leapt on that immediately. And then to end it with the fact that *how dare* he not let his daughter get "medical care"? Yeah, because he wouldn't *rape his own daughter.* The absolute nerve of that woman.
The only thing re religion that should've come up. Is one thing only. The right of freedom religion also comes with the right to freedom from religion. Which means as valid as both sides have points. They are subjective to each others respective compasses. Neither should be forcing theirs on the others. Simple as that. It'd be reasonable to make it illegal for Christians to undergo, say. Because a true Christian would not deny their faith in a moment of interpreted requirement. In theory. I suspect many would however. But if someone has no belief in Yaweh or the distortions of Christian doctrine that the denominations have come to be even. Because they're both valid facets to be considered. Then the Christian segment has no right to force illegalisation of abortion on the atheists. As that is then on par with forcing them into Mass. Forcing them to prayer. Forcing them into church. All under duress. As it would be if the atheists banned churches. Illegalised the Bible. Banned Christian iconography. Christianity, even though muddled from its original truth has an issue of superiority of concept. It believes in its survival. Atheists as young a philosophy it is. Has the same issue because it's new and untrialed, it believes in its potential. Both are religions in their own right. Both young. Both wrong.
@@SnailShoesMany atheists are against abortions. Science says that at fertilization a human being is created and pro-life people, no matter there other beliefs, would say killing human beings is wrong.
@@SnailShoes freedom from religion isn't achievable, everyone will be exposed to religion no matter how secular a society pretends to be. 'forcing' your religion on someone these days is just talking about it, so freedom from religion is silencing religious people
It really is a bummer when these conversations pivot to religious view points. That completely defeats the purpose of a debate when you fundamentally don’t agree.
Abortion is a religious issue on both sides. The social justice movement absolutely operates like an informal religion. It’s Christianity without the metaphysics (and doctrine of forgiveness).
1:52:01 the senate argument is invalid in its premise. Because it’s part of a two part system. One part of that system is population based, House of Representatives, the other is state based. The states acting as ‘individuals’. It’s a system to make sure one state doesn’t rule the other 49. The house gives voice to the majority, the senate gives equal voice to all states. Not the people of all states.
Talking louder or faster doesn't make your point any more valid.
Or frothing at the mouth.
I remember the people in America who won a debate competition by rambling like crazy. Whoever allowed that should be fired.
Any kid could do similar thing to win an argument where your opponent just want to get rid of the kid instead of the question.
It makes about as much sense as yelling and screaming. Your words louder when someone speaks a different language and doesn't understand the language that you're speaking, doesn't make them understand it or make it any more correct, but I equate these kids to that type of person
Only way to debate Charlie with how much he interrupts people 🤷♀️
I'm not a fan of Charlie Kirk, but the attitude and arrogance of these students instantly make them insufferable
Best take from a non Charlie fan. At least you can look at it objectively and not defend their BS in a bias. We need more of you out here.
it’ll be interesting watching dean debate 20 republicans and see how insufferable they’ll be
@@fdjgkhfsdkghfskjghdf_i was wondering if they’d reverse it. Don’t know who dean is but I’d love to see it
@@Daisy99999 yeah, dean withers is the second guy debating after naima, he announced it yesterday, he usually has debates with people on tiktok lives
Same here.
That tiktok kid needed to CHILL. He spoke faster than Ben Shapiro. I could barely follow half his points because of that. Also he needed to check his attitude. Did not help his case at all
The second time I saw him sit down I skipped. I got major anxiety. He wasn’t there to listen, understand, or have a productive conversation, a lot of them weren’t .
Just kidding. He’s on there a third time. Holy crap. My head.
It's like a "Questions Only" segment of Whose Line.
That's because none of his arguments make any sense, so he just spewed a ton at once. It's a legitimate cheating tactic in debates, because the ability to spew bullshit is much faster than the ability to correct it. How you counter this is by excluding the bullshitter from serious debate.
Parker would absolutely get smoked if it was 1v1 with unbiased moderator
Awww too slow to keep up?
They criticize Trump for bringing up extremes in debates like Haitian immigrants eating people's pets in Ohio but they use extremes like rape and incest in abortion, 5-year olds giving birth, and intersex people in trans debates. I think these extremes should be debated separately. The minority shouldn't be the thing we use to dictate rules for the majority.
A 5 year old literally can't give birth anyway. A little girl would need to have her first menses or be right before in order to get pregnant. To my understanding no 5 year olds are capable of getting pregnant. You would be looking at more like 7 or 8.
I feel that a general concensus should be established before dealing with the extreme cases. For example, After much discussion we've decided that these are the rules for abortion, now lets talk about cases that might be exceptions. You shouldn't just permit whatever because there might be an exception.
If you are uncomfortable hearing graphic responses, then don’t bring up graphic debates lmao. You are literally proving her point when you say it’s to graphic
This was a very interesting but also really pathetic debate. I’m very intrigued to see if they are going to do the opposite and put 25 conservative young adults against one liberal. It would be interesting to see how that would turn out and see if it would be as chaotic as this one lol.
That would be entertaining.
The Jub channel wrote in comments its coming Friday apparently
Why do I feel like it would end with the liberal just giving up their views 😅
Or becoming Centrist.
@@Angel_Auraa because you're a conservative lmao
No one "ate up" Charlie. Dean maybe came the closest and Charlie complimented him in the moment. Parker probably thinks he ate Charlie up, but really just had high-speed word vomit.
I can't decide who was more annoying: the fast talking guy who threw red herrings around about child marriage in the past or the woman who resorted to personal insults about Charlie's smile when she had nothing else.
Right. The worst is how people think they "ate." Speaking louder and throwing personal insults does not win you the debate. Gen Z is so brainrot
They both are.
@@aparttogether3921As a Gen Z I 100% agree, our generation is concerning😭
she said one “insult” now that discredits all the great points & information she gave to back it up😭???
I agree that his smile can be a little off-putting to some, but to say that to him is just out right rude!
As a Catholic, I don’t agree necessarily with the premise that they should’ve brought a secular person to this debate, because Charlie is not the one bringing religion into the debate. Every single time it was mentioned, it was first brought out by the students and then he told them repeatedly to get back to the subject at hand. When they didn’t, that’s when he responded to their religious arguments. So is not on Charlie, but on the students.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I think Amala's impatience with religion kinda got the better of her there.
They can't use religious arguments on someone who's secular because pointing out flaws in religious beliefs wouldn't actually reveal contradictions in that specific person's logic. So you wouldn't have to deal with all those arguments and hopefully move onto more substantial points. That's what she meant, she wasn't blaming Charlie lmao.
Amala, I actually already watched this video on Jubilee’s channel and it was so exhausting and infuriating that I told myself I’d never watch it again. But then I see that you’re reacting to it, so I put myself through that torture all over again 😭 Girl if that ain’t true love, I don’t know what is 😂😂
I also watched in its entirety before. And watching again because I'm a big fan of her commentary, it has the ability to make you think.
My thought exactly. I'm ashamed on how jubilee ran that video. They better do it the other way but I don't see any liberal person be the center.
Yeah i decided to wait because i thought she might cover it im glad i did
😂😂 Amen! Me too!
I actually intentionally don't want Jubilee's videos since much of the time they are infuriating to watch alone but watching with Amala's reaction makes them much easier to stomach.
Calling a human fetus a parasite doesn’t sit well with me
They have to dehumanize in order to justify their acts
It is a parasite and it uses the same enzymes to attach to the host as parasites do
@@legitlyspelunkingI support abortion but I would never refer to a fetus as a parasite because it’s delusional. I don’t believe abortion should be glorified, glamorized nor used as a form of birth control. I fully accept and respect those who don’t support abortion and I fully accept and respect myself and others who support abortion. Therefore there is zero argument in my opinion to have on abortion because it’s truly a pointless debate on my opinion. But I think allowing the people of each state to have the vote on abortion is as rational as it gets
Well the word fetus for starters isn't to describe a developmental stage of human gestation. Fetus just means offspring in Latin. It's a latin word to describe one's child or children.
Its just pure evil
I understand Amala isn’t religious but Taylor is and I’d like to hear his opinion more when the conversation turns to religion
yeah same
Yes! I've been wanting that too.
It would be interesting to hear his point of view but ngl amala needs the pause button taken away. Too many interruptions.
@@jeanlarge4050Almost like…it’s her show….She can pause it whenever she wants….that’s why you came to watch her video and not the original, uninterrupted version…???
Whether someone is religious or not, its fascinating when someone just disregards it because "they dont believe it."
Whether I believe there is a tree in front of me or not, doesn't change the fact that the tree is there.
Back in highschool debate we learned a term called "spewing" (talking very fast and loud/ not letting the other person talk) Worked everytime. Now i see spewing so juvenile and dishonest. This isn't highschool babe🙏
Being rude and screaming doesn’t make you a good debater/arguer. These people are insufferable. I don’t even want to be near them. You think you’re smarter than me? Congrats. Lol
I would like to say, simply because I heard Amala bring up this argument a couple times as possibly legitimate, my husband was one of those stereotypical “you should have been aborted cases” (and he’s been told this to his face). He was born the fifth child (fourth dad) to a drug addicted, suicidal mother. He was born premature at only two pounds, his skin still translucent. He and his siblings lived in poverty (five kids sleeping in a pallet on the floor of the living room, he’d eat dog food because he was hungry, etc.). He walked in on one of his mother’s suicide attempts, and she later died of accidental overdose when he was 6. He and his sister closest in age went to live with his dad, who was abusive and later married a woman who refused to be medicated for bipolar disorder and was also abusive as a result. He dropped out his junior year to escape the home. He ended up in a series of toxic relationships and one night stands, becoming addicted to drugs and alcohol, fully expecting he’d die young. By just about every metric, he’d be a “justifiable” abortion, someone who’d have been “better off” not being born. But after we met, he turned his life around. Now he’s clean, we’re very happily married, and we have two beautiful children and one on the way. He has a job that he enjoys and excels at. He went from not caring if he died to working to be healthier so he can live to see his grandchildren, feeling so blessed for the life he was given, despite his traumatic start. He argues that EVERY child deserves a chance, because a rocky beginning doesn’t mean they won’t have a wonderful, successful, love-filled life later down the road. I know not everyone will agree with him, but that’s his story.
Amen 🙏🏽❤️ And Praise God for your husband and for you and your family! What a beautiful testimony that shows just how precious EVERY SINGLE LIFE is! 🙌🏽
I'm a child abuse and family abuse survivor and constantly get told how better it would be if I was dead. I have a wonderful life now and am actively healing my past trauma.
The woman yelling "I'm speaking! I'm speaking...etc" -- she's majoring in Psychology......figures.
lol I’m glad someone said this 😅 I wonder how her sessions with patients will be 😂😂
my NPD abusive father has a bachelore's in psychology. maniacs are attracted to medicine to gain power over people, no other reason.
because she lets him speak but always he wouldn’t let him finish a sentence. thats the only downside of Charlie.
i dont see how that relates to her majoring in psychology
@@rosal5802 people that major in psychology tend to be narcissistic, that's just my experience tho. I had the same experience with people going into nursing, they were all the mean girls in high school that are so self-centered they don't realize they were the bullies. totally just my anecdotal perspective, I know other people have different experiences, but I am giving my 2 cents.
Every time I hear Amala's view on this stuff, it amazes me how much we agree on how to go about it, and how to talk about something. The only difference is Amala does a better job of explaining her point of view and knowing how to work it into these debates than I ever would.
“Life begins at conception” is a scientific fact. It has nothing to do with religion.
Thank you! I came to the comments literally to say this exact thing. Even if someone is religious, that doesn't negate the scientific fact of life beginning at conception.
The exploratorium in San Francisco actually had a display around 10 years ago that was about life cycles and it was using real chicken eggs to show it. The first display was literally labeled "Life begins at fertilization".
The "bunch of cells" argument is just a lie to help people feel better.
If you ask any kid that understands what conception is they will agree. It is so plain and simple lol.
Yea, we can debate if it classifies as Human Life fine leftist BUT it is a Life regardless.
@@Strangeworkings Meh ... that sounds a lot like wibbly wobbly logic. Biology was pretty clear at where life begins with mammals. What discipline applies that supercedes biology?
Parker is only good with debating because he dodges questions by overpowering you with quick thinking. He doesn't refute your argument, he just presents you with a counter-question that often times doesn't make sense.
Parker doesn't know what he is talking about and talks over people witch makes them stumble,if Charlie could speak 5 seconds without Parker interrupting,the conversation could go somewhere
Charlie kept interrupting other people too. His energy may not have been as bad as Parker‘s, but he didn’t always let other people finish their sentences.
I am convinced they think if they talk fast it makes them seem smarter? But he was very annoying.
Gish gallop debating tactics.
He knew what he was talking about when it came to religion. Charlie is woke.
As I said above, I got the overwhelming impression that he wasn't trying to debate but just run the clock out and shut down any debate.
People are so focused on “winning” the argument and/or debate instead of an opportunity to learn. this goes for both sides. And I am a fan of Charlie. But it’s something I struggle with too.
No one ate Charlie up, in my opinion. All these young folks showed me was how clueless, disrespectful, entitled, and immoral they really are. And they are our future. God help us all.
In like 30 years,when we are all old and these kids are in their 40s and 50s, we will face incredible hate and violence from them.
You better count on it!
@@svetlanaandrasova6086 I totally agree.
They get their news from TikTok
I agree somewhat i believe they brought some good points tho
This is the first time I have watched a Jubilee before Amala’s reaction and I’m loving it even more with her commentary. You NEED to be in one of these Amala!!!
Oh my goodness, I have so much anxiety watching these. Charlie Kirk is made of something else to be able to stomach these insufferable students.
I would love to see him debate actual scholars. This is all he’s capable to do
@@caromavi6476 I have a feeling he could hold his own with scholars too. Would love to see it at some point. Maybe take on some of the professors at these universities. I believe people like Michael Knowles have asked but they decline or back out last minute.
@caromavi6476 : At least, with the scholars, it might be an actual debate on topics instead of a word-vomitis I think I gotcha shouting match.
@@caromavi6476actual scholars would agree with Charlie ...
I absolutely love watching Amala, she provides the logical nuance that the world greatly misses today. Love from The Netherlands!
The fetus is created by the body of the mother, it is not a parasite.
* and the father
The baby is not created by the body of the mother, any more than you create a rosebush by watering and feeding it.
great point. first time i heard this counter argument and it sounds solid
Umm. Recall there is a father involved….
The father's seed is the life. The mother is the egg....not life. The mother creates nothing. She is a human incubator.
I would LOVE to see Blaire White or Buck Angel on something like this. The liberal students would lose their shit.
Righttttt especially Blaire, she would do great bc she'd shut those kids down so fast
@@RandomInternetRat3276 no she wouldnt.
@@dainasaurrshe definitely wouldn’t allow them to talk over her nor take any disrespect that’s for sure
I don’t normally leave comments because people online are pretty nasty, but as a mother still recovering from a traumatic birth, what a terrible insult to say that women are defined by typically feminine traits like putting on makeup or liking to crochet. Women have such strength, dealing with constantly changing hormones, painful periods, bringing a child into to this world, because let’s be honest pregnancy and childbirth are hellish. They take on such a large burden, in the household DESPITE most marriages being joint income. Yet despite these factors, women are incredibly compassionate, kind, and protective. This is why so many women are liberal in a political and social sense, they are empathetic and want to help others. But that obviously cannot always be done, and reality cannot be subjective for a society to thrive. A great example of this is immigration, we are told that all of these people need help but the majority of illegal (not legal) immigrants are actually trafficking drugs and children, while not paying any form of taxes creating a deficit of income taxes, and therefore increased taxes. In my opinion, be what you want to be and live your life, but do not tell me that your subjective reality is objective reality and do not tell me that putting on a dress and a wig defines womanhood because it doesn’t.
Had to downvote because you are speaking as if women are a monolith, a hivemind, all clones of each other. We are all very, very different despite the veneer of our biological sex unifying us under shared experiences.
Not all women give birth.
Not all women have painful periods.
Not all women experience cramps so bad they throw up and pass out.
Not all women are strong and ride the hormones as gracefully as you painted it.
Not all women are virtuous, least of all not because we are female.
If you want to stop making women a costume, the first step is to recognize that women are not all the same. Similar features =/= unity. After we acknowledge that and respect that some women are punk goths while others are demure housewives and others are Rosie the Riviter and others are designing biometric prosthetics, THEN we can lambast the insulting men trying to act as if cosplaying magically changes your body.
Love this comment, especially when you were describing womanhood related to the physical demanding parts of being a woman- childbirth, hormone changes, etc.
But that is true though. When you describe a woman, it isn't based on whether or not she gives birth(implying women to can't give birth are not women), nor is it their chromosomes(I would hope you don't walk up to people and ask what chromosomes they have), nor is it about whether they have female sex organs or not.
We all have a fairly good idea of what a woman is, and it has nothing to do with those aspects. There are traits we define woman by, and their are traits that we define men by, and it is nothing to do with deeper aspects relating to sex or gender.
@@voidtempering8700 Shocker, RUclips shadow banned a comment I made saying this same thing. Still got the thread notification and the screen shot. Hopefully yours will stay so at least everyone can see that giving birth =/= womanhood.
@@voidtempering8700 Nah. It's people who're trying to redefine the word woman because they don't want it to link back to unchangeable biological fact. Thats why they end up with circular definitions and behavioural based definitions (which tend to be circular as well). A woman is a person typically born with a vagina, with typically lower testosterone, higher estrogen and XX chromosomes, who typically ovulates and can give birth. They have their development geared towards traits that are evidently different from a man. There are tons of physical and biological traits that determine what a woman is. Everything else is a mutation or variation of that. You can't give birth but you have XX chromosomes, a vagina, and boobs. You're a woman. A human born with 6 fingers on each hand, not 5 isn't not a human being because of his mutation. We know what a woman is. Dont reduce to something subjective and man made.
As an adopted child I just have to say that I am glad my mother was not pregnant with me in todays political climate....
not everyone thinks like that
Life beginning at conception is not necessarily a religious belief, it is a scientific fact. You may not be religious and still acknowledge that.
But it is not a scientific fact in THEIR world of opinions and feelings. Just like gender is [rest of comment removed by RUclips community guidelines]
Maybe not necessarily at conception, but as an embryo, absolutely yes.
That's the problem with pro choicers, conceding to the fact that it's life just as plants are alive, doesn't make you wrong.
But the way they understand "life" or "alive" is like being human and having life means you're supposed to give them moral value. But life at conception isn't worth a thing
@@user-so3yw8tr1xvery different things
Fact
as a gay man who dislikes charlie kirk: i got 2nd hand embarrassment every time the students spoke. incoherent arguments and desperate to get their points across. charlie kirk did great.
ur gay? pretty sure Charlie would not only hate you he'd also make laws against u dude
Its crazy that the decent ones got red flagged but the nutjobs got to stay, seriously.
That’s how far leftism works. It’s based on outrage emotion instead of calm and logic, for the most part of what I’ve seen. They like insults and yelling. It’s what they are raised on via social media. It’s why they applauded when the woman that came on with bad faith super far off niche arguments and personal attacks left with another personal insult to Charlie.
Cuz half of them are a bit extreme
😂😂
@@vincentdarkrosrayne Almost every discussing I've ever tried to have with them on any sort of serious issue ends with them yelling and insulting. It is absolutely all about emotions.
@@SpiritWolf209 i had a far leftist rate me a 1 star on uber on July 4th just because i asked them if they were celebrating the day. they then told me they hate America and proceeded to say every reason why. and because i asked them to explain more instead of agreeing with them and told them to have a good evening i got a 1 star and a complaint that i was rude. keep in mind i barely said a word that entire ride and just listened. XD and i rarely have gotten any bad ratings in my 10 years of uber driving so i generally know who gives me bad ratings. and most of the time its people trying to bum a free ride from the platform via a complain and refund. far right people are much more back and forth then talking about their beliefs.
The red flag system isn’t great. Every time a debater was willing to admit they didn’t know something or asked for clarification, 3 flags go up.
Yeah, I think it could have been better.
It took me a few days to get through this video because the students were so insufferable. It’s physically painful
Same exact feeling for me. Took me 3 times to watch this through. All these students do is raise their voices instead of their arguments. They become vindictive verbally and just attack him personally. Or, like Parker become so condescending while speaking non-sense and claiming they are winning the argument and stumping him. Kuddoes to Kirk for his patience. That is basically what I got out of this: Kirk showing godly patience to these misguided humans.
Thought the same thing and then remembered plenty of insufferable middle-aged adults.
Insufferable and physically painful are the correct terms fr😭
y’all are insane . but the man that said he’ll MAKE his ten year old daughter to carry the baby.. y’all are insane
@@unknownunion-u2j when did I say I agreed with him on that take?
I hate how literally everyone on TikTok is so brainwashed by woke ideology to the point they wholeheartidly believe that this Parker kid genuinely brought up good arguments. All this kid did was talk fast and not let Kirk get to any of his points. People are excusing this by stating that Kirk apparently didn't let people talk either but this is simply not true. Even if it was, that does not excuse these kids' attitude...
Honerabel mention: "No I'm speaking🗣 No I'm speaking🗣 No I'm speaking🗣 No I'm speaking🗣" is NOT an argument and just shows how little respect that girl had... Actual braindead people on that show
Debating with KIDS who have no life experience nor actual valuable perspective. I know it's common for kids to think they know everything but.. it's really much worse these days...
These are all adults. If they can't handle a debate, we should stop letting them cosplay as adults and vote then.
It's exactly the same as debating anyone. People on both sides are massively informed and live in an echo-chamber of their own ideologies. You just believe whatever your side is telling you, it's just as bad on the right as it is on the left.
@@FreedomAintFree-ol6fy "Adults" more like. These days even most people at their ages in countries as privileged as the US don't have to actually grow up and mature. This isn't excusing their ignorance or narcissism, but it's a sad state we're in regardless.
@@Strangeworkings it's actually not. But that's the fault of the left, having given their reigns over to the progressive "woke" far left. Because of how far their side has pushed it has made even classical liberals, moderates and independents now have more in common with the right. (not to mention the outspoken Left basically consider all those groups "right" or even "far right" for disagreeing with them on anything. Unlike the Left, the current day Right is not in concert with their extreme factions (neo-yatzis, white-nationalist, hardcore militia types).
@Strangeworkings I don't think it's as bad on the right. On the right, you can disagree on the smallest thing without being called a racist, bigot, homophobe or "literally Hitler."
That kid Parker has so much pride in his own intellect that he can't even answer a prompt first before going off the rails. He's was *so* hyper focused on his 'gotcha' moment for his for his social media, he doesn't realize he failed at debating. Lol These kids were insufferable. The louder and faster you speak over people doesn't mean you 'ate' and stringing various words together at 2x speed without giving the other person a chance to respond to your point is not a debate at that point. These kids will become the victims of their own arrogance. Pride comes before a fall.
A college student that does not know what a Cesarean section is?? Who is educating these children? I learned what a C-SECTION was is 7th grade.
That’s what I thought, she’s debating abortion but doesn’t even know what a C section is
most people call it a C-Section. we don’t know the full of it.
Dont debate on a topic that you dont know fully 😭@@cetrion575
Well it is Republicans who are trying to remove sex education so that removal might be part of it. Both sides should encourage sex education idk why other Republicans are so against it.
These children are so angry
Ooof. I agree with some views of Kirk, and even though the girl bringing up 10 year olds girl being forced upon was insufferable…I am pretty shocked that Charlie would stoop that low and say that children who get pregnant should not have access to an abortion . Like, C’mon dude. Not EVERYTHING is so black and white
Same, for me that was such an extreme take. That’s a situation where abortion is absolutely justified and critical for the 10 year olds health, at that age the body is not ready to be pregnant and could lead to serious risks for her.
well has the 10 year old hit puberty yet?
half of what he says I agree with but it’s this type of stuff that makes me wonder😭 I think when it’s his religious stances being brought into it it gets iffy
@@Bobbobbity-e5g obviously if their pregnant you dingleberry. wtf does that have to do with anything? Their ten. Giving birth at that age is insane. I’d help my child abort immediately. Young woman can start cycles very early rarely and that means puberty. Doesn’t mean their brain has developed enough to deal with such things
I’d be worried about the physical trauma on top of the emotional trauma! To deliver that small is insane. A ten year old shouldn’t conceptually understand birth and what that means. You can’t ask for their opinion because they don’t know.
It was really irritating how anytime they were getting into a good exchange the other participants wanted to vote them out
The 5 year old is an extremely rare case and a child that was suffering from precocious period. That is too young for a female to menstruate.
But, that chick is an awful person. The way she acted and spoke was nasty and mean spirited.
That’s what infuriates me, Lina Medina (the 5 year old) developed very early (there are articles that debate of when she developed, one say that at 3 months old she had pubic hair and most of them say she menstruated at 2 years old). The girl was abused BUT her case is very rare she was the only 5 year old pregnant, bringing her on the conversation is not helping the point do to the cases of pregnancy before 10 are below 100. So saying “what if your daughter at 10< years old is 🍇ed” is like it doesn’t matter. In Lina’s case the baby was delivered by C-section, both were SAFE and live a normal life after that. That girl annoyed me, and the worst thing is that TikTok support her
❤I was 7 when i hit puberty. 8 with breast. 9 with menses. Day before 4th grade began. The sex talk was embarrassing. So was asking my male gym teacher if i could skip class for cramps.
I cant imagine how that poor girl felt.... or how someone could be so nasty.
I was raped as my first sexual experience at 15 by a man 20+ in age... groomed me for a yr. Sadly he served no time. Im thankful Plan B exists. That man was dangerous as hes now serving prison time for 35 yrs, murder. Killed his own father. How fckd up is that?! Gets out in 2037.... currently all parole has been denied.
It's the way she's been taught to argue.
@@LASB208 I couldn't agree more on the tiktok part, ppl on tiktok r so ignorant, I thought I was seriously in the wrong bc I actually supported most of what Charlie said, but then I opened yt, I like yt comments, while I disagree with most of them, ppl here on yt actually use their brains and most of their statements make sense
@@ididntaskyouropinionwho was this man
Love how Charlie went out of his way to express that Parker had a great point, and as soon as Parker had chance to do the same he started talking sh*t about how he thought he was mopping the floor with Charlie. Goes to show who the adult in the room is
Amala I’m loving your hair today !
I honestly hate both sides sometimes. It’s always an extreme vs another extreme. You should always prioritize the life and health of the mother. There should be a cutoff period, but that time should be flexible and a discussion between the mother and doctor.
Parker reminds me of Destiny. They talk very fast, use bombastic words, and you might think it's a valid point but there's nothing there
and they think they're "winning a debate" and have to deliberately mention that upon themselves in the middle of the debate to give them the ego boost that they need to win a debate.
Also, no one seemed to notice that Parker's definition of what a woman is, was basically a long winded way of saying "someone who identifies as a woman", ie utter nonsense.
I have been waiting for you to react because there is no way I will sit and watch an hour long jubilee video without Amala🙏🙏
saw my husband watch this video and said "I can't wait until Amala Ekpunobi streams this" 😂
Saying that a 10 year old child shouldn't get an abortion is CRAZY.
Can we just talk about how she used an incorrect definition for the word parasite?!
A parasite is one of three types of symbiotic relationships between different species..
Mutualism, Commensalism, and Parasitism.
Parasitism is defined as one species benefits and the other is harmed.
Commensalism is defined as one species benefits and the other is not harmed nor benefits.
Mutualism is defined as both species benefit.
Again this is between two or more different species and the parasitic relationship involves the other being harmed.
People who don't understand the vocabulary they are using (especially scientific) kill me🤦♀️
This. I instantly thought of brood parasitism. Parasites do not need to live _inside_ the host.
Under their argument, a child remains a parasite until adulthood.
Just an idea, the whole rushing to the chair problem could be solved if they used a buzzer or something. If Jubilee gave each of them a buzzer, the first person that buzzed in should be allowed to take to the chair. That would save a lot of embarrassment.
I’m only 5 mins into the vid and came up with that 😂
I love ur way of thinking 😭😭
I only made it as far as the trans debate. These people are insufferable. And the ones who weren’t, the ones who were gracious and conciliatory… they were drowned out by the annoying ones. I dunno how you watched all of that 🤣 I hate that this format made them get under Charlie Kirk’s skin. He’s an excellent debater. Calm and level headed. But this debate style made everyone on edge. Not a fan
I'm not even sure you could call it a debate. Where was the moderator to pull the conversation back to the topic at hand?
It’s good that you noticed the “quiet one.” Always remember that the loudest people get the most air time, it doesn’t make them the majority. The media loves to sensationalize and is partly responsible for the current tension between the left & the right.
I was r’d at 12. I gave birth and gave my child to a family that couldn’t have children but really wanted them. My child grew up in love and I am grateful to the family that loved them
Wow. Thanks for sharing that. Incredibly vulnerable.
@@stayathomehustler7887 thank you I appreciate that I just don’t like how people use my situation as there is only one answer
Am so sry for what happened to u bro, but it's absolutely heartwarming that ur child grew up in a loving family ❤❤❤
What a brave sacrifice. It sounds like you were mature beyond your years 💛
@@emilylefevre6806 thank you I appreciate that so much
The part of Bible about Isaac, God wanted to not only test the believers' obedience but show that He's not going to accept human sacrifices that other people did in other beliefs/cultures. Nothing of the sort of God forgetting to tell Abraham "Oh, it's just a prank, bro, jk".
Also I don't fully like when people (from both sides) bring in the religion arguments to the discussion especially when debating non-belivers/people of different beliefs (unless it's about religion obviously).
It was also a representation of Christ…God sent a lamb in the place of Issac showing how God would bring the lamb for sacrifice for all sins and that the death penalty would be taken from us and put onto Jesus
You do realize the constitution and morals of life were derived from Religion right?
@@NeonKue so what? Saying "because God says so" is weak argument, especially for non-belivers. Even as christian I'd rather use/hear logical and scientific arguments since in my experience those were almost never in conflict with the religion ones.
@@archi5461 Where else would you learn to differentiate bad from good? Murder, adultery, theft. We humans are evil savages out the womb and need guidance from a “father” to build our morals and values in life.
Logic is manmade reasoning of society’s principles *today* which are subject to change at any time. Majority opinion if you will.
Science never in conflict with religion? Are you serious? Evolution, supernatural, medical miracles, *faith* . Can science explain, measure, or reproduce any of that?
In a day and age where we KNOW how and when babies are made AND have dozens of birth control options available just in the last 30 years there really is NO excuse to not take responsibility and accountability to make sure you do NOT need an abortion.
Absolutely. There might be a few exceptions but 98% of pregnancies are preventable.
Parker couldn’t name even half the amendments
Charlie Kirk couldn’t understand subjective morality
@@Majorskillissue101 he does, he just doesn’t agree with it. These are two different things.
@@Majorskillissue101 you must be another Parker.
I want to see a group of conservative people surrounding a liberal. I’m genuinely curious what the talking points would be and how all involved would handle it.
We all know the one liberal would rage quit, or just break down screaming ad hominem. Honestly most liberals can't actually debate anymore, it's all unseasoned and undercooked red herring shoved down your throat and they insult you if you complain.
My moral ground is that babies should not be having babies. Rape and incest victims should not be forced to bear the child of their attacker. And women who have pregnancies that are not viable, or that will kill them, not be forced to bleed out in a parking lot or go to another state to have they’re already dead fetus removed from their body..
I don’t condone abortion as a form of birth control. But I believe that there are situations in which it should be available.
And we have that already
And incest isn't always molestation, there's hillbilly like families wgere brothers sleep with sisters
Why do people always argue from extremes? Babies will have babies when they have sex. Just because someone got pregnant from a nonconsensual scenario, it doesn’t make it any less of a baby. Either it’s a vulnerable life or it’s not. Be consistent.
@@AliciatheCho and at the same time, the baby did nothing wrong, it shouldn't be aborted because of its father's actions. About the teen pregnancy part, if a teen has sex, then they should take responsibility for the baby if they get pregnant, having abortion available for teens in my opinion would send the message that it's ok for them to sleep around in middle/high school
1. Abortion is never medically necessary ever (thats been proven now by many OBGYNs)
2. Rape/incest cases are 1% of abortions and its rare that the victim will become pregnant
Can we talk about the amount of kids who are in the foster care system, or the ones born into horrible homes??
I Worked for the campus police for Columbia university for ten years, from 2008 to 2018. My first year there I was assigned to escort this high school class of 15/16 year olds around. When we got to the earth science dept the class was addressed by the head of environmental sciences. I can't remember her name but she was the dean in charge of the dept. Anywho, when asked if anyone had any questions one girl asked how they could stop the biosphere from total collapse if we didn't stop using fossil fuels before the decade was out. To which the dean assured her that while destructive to the environment, the biosphere wasn't going to collapse. To which this girl And several others INCLUDING THE LATE 20s SOMETHING TEACHER said that it most certainly was going to collapse. After a brief back and forth, and by which time the girl that first asked the question was almost screaming and almost hyperventilating, the dean, a woman that must have had more degrees, doctorates & PH.Ds 35 years before any of these kids were born, just said well ok have a good day and left.
Many of these students, most of all I'M TALKING, NO I'M TALKING, really reminded me of this girl.
Emotions and feelings over logic and facts.
@@one_eyed_pete2462 Enjoying Kamala's fake campaign are ya
I mean, to be fair to that girl. She was brainwashed her entire school career to think the earth was gonna blow up tomorrow because of the ozone layer/amazon forest/polar caps/volcano eruption/mega earthquake.
@@applesdust8020 After my second year working at Columbia I became an almost exclusive dorm officer & as such you get to know "Your" residents very well. You get to know their families & quirks. Personalities & people they're dating. And a few of them turn out to be the type that stop by the desk and chat when nothing is happening or during breaks. And as I wrote in other comment sections about the mainstream media & teaching, I had many conversations with students from both the Columbia university school of Journalism & Teachers college. Students from the school of Journalism have told me on more occasions than I can count that their professors told them that the "old fashioned" way of impartial Journalism where you would report only the facts of a story and allow the readers/watchers of the news to decide for themselves what they thought was in fact allowing racism, sexism & homophobia to flourish. That they had a duty to be "An ally of the marginalized & dispossessed in their reporting" (which is why the news stopped being the news & became propaganda outlets for the DNC.
Students at Teachers college (who didn't live in my dorm but whom once did & knew me then) told me much the same thing. That it wasn't their job to teach the ABCs 123s, reading & science but to (once again) be "An ally of the marginalized & dispossessed in their teaching by instilling in their student a sense of the social injustice of the current system (which it most Certainly is Not). Now this didn't start yesterday. It's been going on for at least 2 decades now which would explain that teacher's attitude as well. RUclips hates links so if you search youtube for a video named To Pass as ‘Normal’, Kids Must be ‘Queer’ and you go to 17:20 James Lindsay is just a master of explaining this. I think you'll be amazed.
That’s actually insane
Parker's take on the genotype of Jesus was so dumb... I'm an atheist, but even I can comprehend that God didn't put half his genotype inside of Mary. That's where the miracle part comes
Kirk knew exactly how to get views for Jubilee. Of all their content featuring non-leftists, this has been one of the most viewed.
Yeah since leftists r seriously delusional n unhinged with lots of word salads just like kamala lol can't stand those morons rite??? 😂😂😂
I'm definitely glad it was Charlie in this video because he's pretty much the only one that could handle leftists that were THAT rude and insufferable! He's an excellent debater!
There is a standard definition of a woman.
And a standard definition of a man.
Everything and everyone else can define themselves as "others".
The question he should have asked: “How did the Ancient Greeks know who to exclude from the Olympics?”
It should also be noted that while they did exclude women from the olympics, they could compete in other competitions...in their own category. Even they knew that males and females are different. I believe the only sport they allowed women and men to compete together was chariot racing.
The people on tiktok think being rude is “eating him up”
facts
It explains how lost we are as a country and generation lol
Parker talking over Charlie, never letting him respond or finish his points and then bragging about how he is winning the debate was giving me second hand embarrassment. The other people just seemed uninformed, but Parker was so cringe to watch.
It was extremely inappropriate to clap. They KNOW it's 25 people who are here against ONE FUCKING PERSON to deliberately have a civilized debate. She was being completely vulgar and should have explained that evil offspring is still evil. That ruining a good child's life for that of an evil do-ers child to be born is wrong. I agree with him on most things but his stance on abortion is bias because his religion. Regardless, that was bullying, it was a power move, and was nothing but a rally to absolute childish behavior. What disgusting mindsets these people have.
Lmfao, what do you have to say for yourself after the latest Jubilee video in this format? You’ve got Dean (a teenage liberal) vs 20+ adult Trump supporters. They seemed to clap as much as they want just like the liberals did in this video.
It's absolutely ABSURD to say that a child born from evil circumstances is evil themselves. What an absolutely horrendous take.
I'm one of those unwanted children and I'm an abortion abolitionist. I love my life and so does my adult nephew who was also one of those children. Im glad neither of us were aborted.
And, we don't judge people. We judge actions.
I feel like Amala would have done a better job than Charlie Kirk. She should do this again.
I find it very hard to believe that people can think one sex can be the other sex. they can pretend to be the other sex, but they can't actually be.
I kind of like the way ladyboys in Thailand do it. They act and look like women but I've never seen any of them claim to actually be a woman.
I’m pro-choice and I won’t participate in the mental Olympics that it takes to dehumanize a fetus or make it seem like abortion isn’t ending a life…it is ending a potential life. But I do think the woman who is an active member of society, has relationships, speaks, etc. is more important to protect than the fetus. This is why I also believe abortion should be regulated and shouldn’t be allowed past a certain point in the pregnancy.
No common ground I am afraid. There is no protecting the women. It is simply deflection. Pregnencies are normal and not life threatening(for overwhelming majority). Only when the mothers life is in strict danger( and I am talking life and death can abortion be allowed) . Otherwise no
So we should overlook the consequences of irresponsible sex from a woman who is an active member of society, has relationships, speaks, etc.?
Does a man who is an active member of society, has relationships, speaks, etc. have the Pro-Choice to not pay child support then?
@@NeonKue Your example is quite irrelevant. Child support is payed once the child is given birth. Both parents are required to pay child birth (with the one already having to take care of the child already counts as child support essentially) But the man doesn't have to carry the child. The woman however does. Most pro-choice are those who support the act of removing the child before it is given birth to. Idk about others but I think most are pro-choice because there are rape cases and not viable births. For rape cases, I think it's pretty obvious who's gonna be the one to suffer here, both physically, mentally and maybe financially as well. Maybe in some countries, child support laws differ but, using common sense, the rape victim, is gonna be the one to raise the child, essentially already providing child support so your example doesn't make sense.
@@gumoa2866 But with abortion, usually people who are pro-choice say it should solely be the woman's decision and that the man should not have a say at all. So if the man doesn't want the child but the women does, why should he then be forced to pay for the _woman's_ decision? Either give both parties a say in abortion (which most pro-choicers are against) or give the man an option to opt out of fatherhood. It's only fair.
@@gumoa2866 But with abort!on, usually people who are pro-choice say it should solely be the woman's decision and that the man should not have a say at all. So if the man doesn't want the child but the women does, why should he then be forced to pay for the _woman's_ decision? Either give both parties a say (which most pro-choicers are against) or give the man an option to opt out of fatherhood and not pay for child support. It's only fair.
Religion has no right in this convo. Unless a person is Christian, Christian perspective is none of the question. Nor should it be pushed on another. That was be no different than outlawing Mass or prayer groups. Freedom of Religion means freedom from it too.
That one of the things i dislike about the abortion debate.
Most (not all) pro-life people are religious and use the moral absolute of their religion to argue against abortion. But no one is required to follow religious doctrine.
There is a non religious argument against abortion, but it still involves forcing people who accidentally conceive (condom/pill failed) to have the baby they didn't want and tried to avoid having. Which doesn't sit well with me.
hahaha "No, I'm speaking! 5x plus" So insufferable. LOL. She is wishing that on his child. It is nasty.
and him saying he'd still keep his daughter's child that was from a rapist(hypothetically) is not disgusting? you're weird
😂 It's the catchphrase "Weird." I guess you haven't met actual people who are glad their mom decided not to abort them. My friend & coworker are thriving good people even knowing what has happened to their mom. Proud of the choice their mom made. So I guess it's weird. 🤷
"A child should not be punished for the sin of thy father."
To each of their own
I would love to see an episode like this with Amala, less insufferable liberals and a less “modern” (free-for-all-friendly-fire) debate format.
“Calm down. I’m not a cop.” 😂
he didn't debate with most of them. he's just getting lot of angry charged argument from them
"We really just want to be allowed to peacefully carry out Satan's plans, mkay?" - students
Ok But if you're not Christian. Then Christian perspective has no place. Freedom to practice your religion means the right to Freedom from religion too.
Not everyone believes in (the) Satan. 'The' as it was in the original texts. It's a job title. Not a being proper. The idea of Lucifer to be Satan was a much, much later concept. Early Medieval even. It's a misunderstanding of biblical scripture that was inserted to for the greater power of the church. The very idea of Satan as it stands is a massive falsity of the religion.
So even to apply the concept there, invalidates the argument off the bat. Merely by showing an improper and inadequate knowledge of the religion in question to begin with.
real
@@SnailShoeshow is it a misunderstanding if Lucifer is referred to as the Satan in the scripture? I genuinely don’t understand what you’re trying to say
@@ashleyfrancis0405 direct me the precise scripture you're referring to
@@SnailShoes it sounds like you're wanting to have a more serious discussion and I'm not sure the RUclips comment section is the place for it. Your knowledge and drive might be better suited for some other forum where it can be put to better use.
I don’t think having a Christian view complicates things. The kid that’s trying to point at Christianity as a tangent is just using an ad homonym argument. Basically he wants to discredit his other points because not everybody’s going to agree with a Christian point of view. Invalid argument.
Fetus is Latin for offspring.
Offspring = the young of an animal, or a person's children.
Baby, fetus, offspring all the same 😂
@@AMKmusic96that’s the point, the girl who acted as if the definition of fetus wasn’t relevant when it has the same translation in the English language. Many words in modern language stem from the Latin language thanks to my ancestors from Italy. Props to them
@@elettramia6380 yup, they wanna try and spin it like Fetus is some dehumanizing word when its not at all
@@elettramia6380 Yea, especially when we're talking medical and scientific terms.
Parker is insufferable. Sure others were rude too. But Parker didnt let Charlie speak, and just rapid fired everything. His smugness and ego only made it worse.
Hi guys! Boise girl here! THANK YOU for this video...I am pro choice AND pro life...I know that is probably hard to get but I guess I just feel like certain things in our lives are so deeply personal. I understand both sides but certainly side with Charlie on almost everything. I appreciate listening and actually HEARING the woke debaters here, except when they get their emotions all out of sorts. When will they learn that facts do not care about emotions. While some are certainly educated, not well, but are articulate in getting points across. I am still watching and I have learned a few things that I didn't know either. I am about enlightenment in the way that ALLOWS ME to change my mind based on new evidence. I have changed my mind on several issues over the years. It's called experience, something their college can't pay for. Love you guys!
There was an actress that did an interview that I really liked, where she said her dad explained it to her as: women should have access to abortion but it should not be normalized & publicly discussed as it is today.
Not to gotcha but the *fact* you say “I just feel” about life/choice then to state “facts don’t care about emotions” about the way these kids think is quite contradicting.
I can respect that you’re willing to be enlightened and learn so I encourage you to find the morality in Pro-Life over personal feelings of modern society that made these kids woke.
@@NeonKue what makes you think I support 'woke' anything? When I said it is 'deeply personal' what I meant is that people need to start keeping some things to themselves. No one would be able to judge them if they didn't announce every aspect of their lives. Please, save your condescending attitude for someone who will tolerate it. Who do you THINK you are anyways? LOL! It actually sounds like you and I are on the same page but you can take your 'got cha' and shove it.
@@NeonKue You can feel pro-life all you want but you don't have to go out of your way to say that people who are pro-choice are woke. I am not pro-choice nor pro-life. I respect people who has pro-life beliefs as long as they don't try to make abortion illegal or insult pro-choice. I want you to see it from the viewpoint of a victim. I also tried to see it from a viewpoint as the baby who would be aborted. There is a lot that goes into it. I respect whoever wants to be pro-life but just don't impose your views on others, especially victims of rape.
@@gumoa2866 Pro-Choice is a feelings based idea supported by those woke to discrimination so birds of a feather.
Lol There is no neutrality in between, you’re either with one or the other and based on your reluctance, you’re obviously Pro-Choice without saying it.
How about we limit Abortions to ONLY r4pe cases then? Every Abortion must come with a court approval showing dna samples from the convicted suspect. That means no more Abortions cus of accidental pregnancies, would you support that then? I know women who’ve had 3 abortions and have no shame about it, they treat life like trash cus they don’t want to be accountable and take responsibility for their actions.
Amala groaning in the background of Parker’s onslaught is too relatable, I couldn’t finish the original vid by the third time Parker came up
LMAO about Amala asking people to chill and calm down before we even get to Parker 🤣
Tik Tok dude talks at the same speed as Ben Shapiro but without being right
A religious person can still debate, but said person must ignore their beliefs in a no religious debate like this. If your stance is true then you could prove it without religion.
As a European Liberal this makes me go mad...being so emotionally invested in the most generic topics is stupid enough but not even being able to acknowledge literal scientific facts and repeating the others over and over again is bonkers to me. These students shouldn't represent liberal viewpoints for millions to watch...
I couldn’t sit through all of that. Especially when Parker was talking
I love how the lady moved away from talking about the 10 year old and focused on the 5 year old. Especially because the 5 year old's father was unknown, and the 10 year old's father was her mother's boyfriend, and they were specifically trying to get the abortion not because they felt sorry for the child (not *specifically,* even if the mother might have a bit), but because the mother wanted to get rid of the evidence of her boyfriend's pedophilia. Nice job there, lady. Thank god Mr. Kirk didn't know that one specific story, because he would have leapt on that immediately.
And then to end it with the fact that *how dare* he not let his daughter get "medical care"? Yeah, because he wouldn't *rape his own daughter.* The absolute nerve of that woman.
Amala's commentary is cracking me uppp!!
Any time they admit that the woman in question is a mother, they’re admitting it’s a baby. You wouldn’t call someone with a parasite a mother.
Doctors admit a pregnant female is a mother.
@@BabyShark-kd9jl yep. Doctors know enough to realize the unborn is still a human child.
It’s wild how so many people said Parker won, but you can’t really win a debate on college or abortion by just challenging the legitimacy of religion.
Impossible to win a debate if you keep dragging it off-topic.
The only thing re religion that should've come up. Is one thing only.
The right of freedom religion also comes with the right to freedom from religion.
Which means as valid as both sides have points. They are subjective to each others respective compasses. Neither should be forcing theirs on the others. Simple as that.
It'd be reasonable to make it illegal for Christians to undergo, say. Because a true Christian would not deny their faith in a moment of interpreted requirement. In theory. I suspect many would however. But if someone has no belief in Yaweh or the distortions of Christian doctrine that the denominations have come to be even. Because they're both valid facets to be considered. Then the Christian segment has no right to force illegalisation of abortion on the atheists. As that is then on par with forcing them into Mass. Forcing them to prayer. Forcing them into church. All under duress.
As it would be if the atheists banned churches. Illegalised the Bible. Banned Christian iconography.
Christianity, even though muddled from its original truth has an issue of superiority of concept. It believes in its survival. Atheists as young a philosophy it is. Has the same issue because it's new and untrialed, it believes in its potential.
Both are religions in their own right. Both young. Both wrong.
@@SnailShoesMany atheists are against abortions. Science says that at fertilization a human being is created and pro-life people, no matter there other beliefs, would say killing human beings is wrong.
@@SnailShoes freedom from religion isn't achievable, everyone will be exposed to religion no matter how secular a society pretends to be. 'forcing' your religion on someone these days is just talking about it, so freedom from religion is silencing religious people
@@mafiawaffle talking about your religion is not synonymous with banning abortion because of your religion.
TikTok Punk was the worse debater
Real, bro kept going off topic to the point where I actually closed the og vid on julibees channel😭😭
Nahhhh yall are just mad that he owned charlie kirk 😂
@@jiohyadefine "owned", if it means talking fast and not passing your point across effectively, then yeah maybe he owned him
You are exactly right. Its makes way more sense to be transracial than transsexual/gender.
It really is a bummer when these conversations pivot to religious view points. That completely defeats the purpose of a debate when you fundamentally don’t agree.
Abortion is a religious issue on both sides. The social justice movement absolutely operates like an informal religion. It’s Christianity without the metaphysics (and doctrine of forgiveness).
Next episode will be Amala vs 25 Woke Students.
1:52:01 the senate argument is invalid in its premise. Because it’s part of a two part system. One part of that system is population based, House of Representatives, the other is state based. The states acting as ‘individuals’. It’s a system to make sure one state doesn’t rule the other 49. The house gives voice to the majority, the senate gives equal voice to all states. Not the people of all states.
Charlie Kirk surviving a zombie apocalypse
Amala...a lot of pro life framework isn't based on religion but science and the value of the human species. Period.
So is pro choice. Period.