Firebox "Wood Flame" Gas Burner -Trangia Alternative? Comprehensive Review
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Firebox Gas Burner with Titanium Diffuser www.fireboxsto...
$39.99US vs $78.99US for Trangia gas burner www.fireboxsto...
Comes With
Manual
Titanium Flame Diffuser / Radiant Grill Adapter
2 x Universal mounting pins that work for either the 5” Firebox Stove and Firebox Freestyle (cut to fit).
Stuff sack
Key Features
Can be used in any stove that holds the Trangia by its rim and has a port to allow the gas line to be passed through
Titanium flame diffuser
Unique flame adapter allows user to adjust air-fuel mixture
Physical Specifications
Weight - Burner 3.4oz / 97g
Weight - Ti Plate 0.6oz / 18g
Performance Specifications
Output: 2100 W / 6700 BTUs
Looks like the Snow Peak Giga Power 2.0 at 10,000 BTUs
Operation
Set universal mounting pins at the height for a Trangia burner (1” pot gap)
Mount gas burner across the pins. Will snap into place
Feed cartridge valve through feed port
Attach to gas canister
Light flame and open canister slowly
Using the Flame Adjuster - Use a pair of pliers to pinch the flame adjuster tabs. Adjust to cover no more than 50% of the holes. Light the burner as before. Let cool before adjusting.
Boil times
Gen 2 5” Firebox - 2 cups water - 15cm SS kettle
Full-open 5:33 - 14g fuel
Half-open 4:00 - 8g fuel
Did the same test using the Bulin Trangia gas burner clone. Ran it at about 2/3rd open. Boil time of 2:53 with 11 grams of fuel consumed
Same test with the FB burner set one pin-hole lower
Full-open stopped test as not all jets were firing
Half-open 4:12 - 11g fuel
I think the creator was chillin to some oldies on vinyl records when he got this idea.
Steve is a classic for sure. Actually, a great piece of kit that add to the versatility. Thanks for commenting
It’s already ridiculous how much money I’ve spent with that company. And now this. Well here I go again.
LOL...yeah, so easy to do. Thanks for commenting
Yup 🤣
I have to laugh because I do it too. I was just thinking how nice a titanium Firebox G2 would be in the 4Runner...
@@nvrumi that’s my favorite stove of all.
One underrated touch to this burner compaired to the trangia burner is the metal clips are rounded off. The trangia clips were really sharp often times scratching or tearing some materials. I rounded off my trangia burner clips with sandpaper. Good to see the firebox burner already solved this 👌
Yes, good point. I noted that but forgot to include it. Thanks for commenting
Mark, thanks for the work of evaluating these stoves. I grew up in Alaska and have used canister stoves in many cold conditions. When it is colder than 0F i use a tea candle to heat the canister. This has worked to -40 every time.
Good tip. Thanks for commenting
Thanks that is a good tip!
The beauty of multifuel stoves. More than one option of cooking time, plus warmth. These burners would be a great necessity for rocket and wood gasifier stoves too. The rocket and wood gasifier stoves would be the perfect wind screen.
Interesting idea. Something I should be able to test. Thanks for commenting
Hey Mark, I got mine today. I barely turned the collar just a smidge and covered about 1/10 of the air holes and it richened up the mixture and stopped sputtering out at wide open throttle. Still a nice blue flame but really works nice. Like you I don’t run mine at wide open. But it sure is cool to be able to adjust it.
Yes, I alos have learned about adjusting the collar a bit. I will be making an update video soon. Thanks for commenting
Another excellent thorough review Mark. Well done.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
I couldn't find many reasons to use a remote canister stove unless it's very cold and need to use a heat pipe. A much lighter weight stove that sits on top of the canister would work just as well. Using the diffuser to grill looks like a great reason. Thanks for the video.
I always use a remote stove
1. Stability
2. because it is low it is away from tent fabric
3. Mush easier to protect from ind with a better burn
Thanks for commenting
Oooh. I think I want one!
Great review, sir. I hadn’t seen this before. Thanks!
Great value option to the Trangia for sure. Thanks for commenting
I use the Firebox Titanium G2 stove exclusively and this is an interesting product, thanks Mark
I have the Gen 2 in titanium as well. Great stove. This burner just add to the versatility. Thanks for commenting
I am looking forward to receiving mine. You did a good job reviewing this Mark. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
Thank you for reviewing the firebox combination with various stoves.
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for a well done review. I just received my burner and have yet to run it. I was looking for a way to grill for one person here at the house as well as out in the field. This looks like a way to do it.
I think adding a foldable or roll-up windscreen might be a useful addition to the kit in the field.
I love this stuff. It is so much fun.
Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for commenting
Outstanding information on everything; very in-depth! Thank you for such a thorough review.
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Great Demo & Tests, Thanks Mark, Steve's Good People ! ATB T God Bless
Totally agree. So good to work with. Thanks for commenting
Very informative and professionally developed. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
I have never had any problems with the burner pot - also just received from firebox the upgrade it make it easy for the adjustment mixture you don’t need any tools now
Waiting on my upgrade now (takes longer to get to Canada) so I can make an update video. Thanks
Another GREAT thorough review Mark. Much appreciated!!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
G'day Mark, excellent review and demo mate. Outside of Triangia, didn't know these types of designs existed, that sure is think'n ......... INSIDE the box, lol.
Diffuser; great little addition, I assume it would work much the same with a small frypan, probably still get some sort of central hotspot, but that'd take any fat dripping out of the equation.
It does off course mean you need the firebox to use it. The same thing with legs to use it autonomously would be even better again IMO. But hey, as is; a windsheild and multifuel option for fire ban days, best of both worlds, love it.
Also, it's still an important consideration, but I reckon gas efficiency becomes less of an issue, since in emergency you've always got wood to fall back on, (and contained), regardless of restrictions.
Cheers Duke.
Hi Duke. The nice thing about this burner is that oit will fit in almost every setup that a Trangia would fit in. Yes, the diffuser will help with hot spots on pots and pans as well. Thanks for commenting
I have been waiting for this review - thanks! Your thorough analysis helped me make my decision.
Glad I could help! Thanks for commenting
Fantastic, thorough review!
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Thank you for this review. You always do a comprehensive review.
I appreciate that! Thanks for commenting
Great review. Could see clearly what you mean about how the flame behaves when the tap is fully open.
I have learned that it actually works best when not run at full blast. Thanks for commenting
Excellent Review ....THANKS MARK!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
You can also use the diffuser for baking.
I would think so but I would suggest still using a spacer inside the oven. Thanks for commenting
Great review Mark. I wonder about the defuser plate when used with a frying pan? Most small burners, and even medium sized burners, create such a hotspot in the middle of the pan that it makes them hard to use. Does the defuser solve that? Thanks again.
I won't say it solves the issue but so far, the diffuser has been great for reducing risk or burning from hot spots. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft thanks again.
I use the top to a tin can
I use a side cutting tin opener like from Ikea
Works excellently as a defuser
A diffuser is a great addition to any cook system. Thanks for commenting
I do the same, I keep several lids and I find all kinds of uses for them.
Very good
Thanks for commenting
I love that you can use butane, propane, and an alcohol burner when wood is too moist to burn. This must be "Wood Plan A, Alcohol burner Plan B, Then gas burner Plan C."
Don't forget charcoal and wood pellets. I enjoy using charcoal in theese.
I agree, good to have options or backups. I also agree about pellets and charcoal. Thanks for commenting
The diffuser plate is a good addition, I would definitely use it. Did the flame act in the same way with the diffuser on it, as it did with the pot? I have the same grill, it has come in handy a few times. ✌️🇺🇸🇨🇦✌️
The diffuser is a great idea for cooking drippy meats...
I messed up a 500 series Coleman single burner, cooking Polish sausage/brats on a simple sticks whacked from the woods, held up at angle leaning on the guard(s) of my large camp knife. Two sticks, two sides of the guard is two brats. 'n how fast 'n simple the knife stuck to earth was.
~ I thought the grease just burning up after was fine. It ended up rotting out the burner. :-l
~~ Nice li'l burner they thunk up.
I just don't think I'll ever go with li'l canisters of gas fuel. Pumper like Coleman fuel equipment does a nice flame for me.
Fair enough. I have started using a diffuser on a number of stoves. Lots of advantages. Thanks for commenting
Great review as always Mark. Do you know if this burner has pressure regulator like some other canister stoves?
No, it is a standard un-regulated burner. Thanks for commenting
Cool
Thanks for commenting
Using this gas burner with the Trangia would give the stove excellent wind protection. Do you get the same level of wind protection with it in the Firebox stoves?
The Firebox is good but a Trangia system would be better for wind protection. Thanks for commenting
I’m curious to know if you tried this in your Trangia setup. Does it snap into the Trangia as securely as the Trangia burner does?
Yes, I have the Trangia 25 cook system and it fits in perfectly. Thanks for commenting
So I’m definitely not a gas stove expert, but wouldn’t that adjustment be more for the type of gas or something? And aren’t there pure propane cylinders for colder weather?
As for the full vs medium, seems like the jets are also blasting right to the outside, and around the pot, and not right into the pot.
Plate is awesome, and the wide pattern seems awesome for spreading the heat. Surprising for such a small head
Good for summer campers.
I can see why you might think that but I did try it with propane and it burns the same. Steve actually designed it for a softer flame, A diffuser of some type can really help for everything other than boiling. Thanks for commenting Jim
How it compares to Trangia? Especialy in cold weather? Trangia's gas leading pipe gets hot improoving efficiency in low temperatures :)
It will not work as effectively in very cold weather when compared with the Trangia version. Thanks for commenting
Thank you Mark for reviewing stuff and answering questions ❤
The burner on my gas stove is so wide I have to use it on low with small pots because if I don't it takes longer and wastes fuel
Yes, that is a good point. Using gas stoves on high can waste a lot of fuel. Thanks for commenting
Does anyone know if this stove will fit into a Trangia windshield?
Yes it will. I have the 25 and it fits perfect. Thanks for commenting
I think it's a bunson burner.
Thanks for commenting
Has anyone tried this in a Trangia kit with the diffuser?
I waited before replying so I could give it a try. It works perfectly in my 25. Thanks for asking
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanks for checking. The diffuser plate should make for a more even heat spread when using the Trangia frying pan.
Tested. Works well, simmering in a pot is very good as is controlled frying pretty much avoiding hotspots.
One could manage with a Trangia original burner but the FB gives more control.
All your heat is shooting sideways, that is the largest contributor to the poor performance.
Yes, this is true. Thanks for commenting
Just admit that the Firebox gas adapter is complete rubbish.
Nope, see the update video. Thanks for commenting