Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne... 14 Years Later
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- 00:00 - Intro
01:58 - Pre-Production
04:04 - Gameplay
12:30 - Story
24:10 - Conclusion
Written, Voiced, and Edited by Lucas Raycevick
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"Last night I dreamed of my wife. She was still dead, but it was alright", and then "Late Goodbye" from Poets of the Fall started playing....absolutely masterful way to end such a game. This game was a masterpiece.
It was so good.
I remember i almost cried back then hearing that it was chilling experience
It seemed like he made peace with her being dead. And then... He started drinking in Max Payne 3?
@@MaccaveliPL It's what happens when different writers have to continue a story. They pull excuses out of their ass. MP1+2 are written by Sam Lake. MP3 are written by Dan Houser + 2 other people.
@@royal2852 I just finished MP2 and realized why MP3 shouldn't exist cause he comes to the same place in that game too
"Using the F5 key like a teenager's sock."
Never change, Lucas.
But he promised he'd never tell!
Thats actually a really good ... comparsion.
Especially since i was a teenager back then and propably used F5 at least as much as i used my Girlfriend.
This sounds a bit more wrong than i intended.
isn't f5 refresh? then the teenager sock is a masturbation reference. I don't get the comparison/metaphor
F5 to quick save game, F9 to reload last save game
Writing on Games I dnt get it. Why use socks? its disgusting
"The things that I want", by Max Payne. A smoke. A whiskey. For the sun to shine. I want to sleep to forget. To change the past. My wife and baby girl back. Unlimited ammo and a license to kill. Right then, more than anything, I wanted her.
Equipto 2nd favorite part of that game
Still gives me the chills even after all these years.
Jared you forgot: The trouble with wanting something is the fear of losing it, or never getting it. The thought makes you weak.
The dialogues hand downnnn the best
That what everyone wants unlimited ammo in all three games.
"Max, dearest of all my friends. I was supposed to be the hero."
Yes!
The saddest and most sympathetic line that Vladimir would ever said.
My mannnn!
Killing Vlad was really PAYNE-FUL for me
Bang you're dead Max Payne
Max payne was life changing. Maybe my age was a factor but it was one of the darkest and intimidating games; the adult themes were surprising and interesting
same here
i was about twelve when i first played Max Payne 2
Well said, I feel the same way... Max Payne 1 was a good opener, but Max Payne 2 was the masterpiece.
I played it just a couple of months ago(I'm 17 ) but no game has given me goosebumps like this one. (I have been playing GTA since I was 11)
It wasn't just your age. This series is a masterpiece.
Yess
I remember when I grinded Max Payne 2 until I found the alternate ending. I agree it defeats the story's purpose. However. On the first playthrough you're just shocked about the ending. On the second play-through you feel really sad whenever Mona shows up because you know how it ends. The third time you play because its the hardest difficulty and completionist in you cannot pass the challenge. After beating it I at least felt genuine joy that I got to see Mona surviving. I still feel it was a clever reward to those who really played the game a lot.
Did I do something wrong by tinkering with the registry of the game and enabling Dead on Arrival without playing the others first? I didn't had the time to play it again and again as I was in a somewhat dark and hectic time of my life as well. I don't think so. Coz I wouldn't have been able to bear Mona's death in the easy playthrough. I actually felt a sense of connection with Mona herself. In the Manor at the end, I tried to follow her, worried something might happen to her in my absence, ignoring the bullets headed towards me. I am in love. With Max, with Mona.
"Max pulling off the Bioware face" you are a genius.
Galebazz what is the Bioware face?
he is referring to the horrible facial animations of Mass Effect: Andromeda
Galebazz oh, what a shame. For the longest time i held Bioware's facial animations in high regard. Mass Effect 1 had (for the most part) the best ones i'd ever seen in an RPG
Actually credit goes to Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation and has nothing to do with Andromeda:
ruclips.net/video/QLNM_cW1SWk/видео.htmlm4s
BioWare has a rep for one single "neutral" expression every character in every game uses.
That rep is that they look like fish people.
Oooeh, that Max Payne cello theme always gives me goosebumps
Max Payne 2 theme > Max Payne 1 theme
It's as rich and deep as a glass of oak-aged whiskey beside a bottle of painkillers
And we keep driving
Into the night
It's a laaate goodbye...
This song still pops up in my head every once in a while
"I had a dream of my wife. She was dead. But it was alright."
And then Late Goodbye kicks in...
I think it's in the top 3 best video games' endings of all time.
Max Payne 1-2 is one of the best games ever made.
One of the best games characters. Max was almost real to me :)
He’s a bit too overpowered to be real. He shrugs off a shot to the head better than a hangover.
I agree
I think one thing I like so much about Max Payne's character is that he should have died so many times, even wants to die at times, but there is something driving him that just will not let him. Sort of like a boxer that's been beaten to a pulp, but just will not stop getting up again and again. The bandaged, bloody state he's in at the end of Max Payne 2 says it all.
One of the best story in gamesss hands fucking down!!!!
One of the best games i´ve ever played, truly a classic and highly underrated, i barley see people talk about it, thank you for this video.
I still have it. For good reason. I'll never get rid of it.
@@mr.raslyon6626 same where Maree best games hand downn
dav2693 max Payne 1 is better
Mr. Ras Lyon same here man ...i installed the Payne 3 effect mod and it makes the game 10 times better
dav2693 great game, but not revolutionary. Sales were good, but not one of the best. Small cult like fans/sales.
Credits song at the end of Max Payne 2 by Poets Of The Fall was one of the best moments in videogames history. And that "Max Payne's journey through the darkness will continue" credit gives me chills to this day. Masterpiece.
the game's amazingly written story is what single handedly taught me to fluently speak english at the age of 7, i remember being so intrigued by it i slowly began to understand english to the point where i became fluent, and since the game was my only source of prolonged exposure to spoken and written english at the time i picked up an american accent when i speak
This is my favorite MP title, and I thank you for the justice you brought to it in this video.
While most people I know despise MP2 for the story, I absolutely adored it and was completely immersed by act 3, losing an entire night until I completed the game. Just like in the game, it was raining outside and once "Late Goodbye" kicked in, I couldn't hold back the tears streaking my face. It was exhilarating ride, and a far more personal story than I ever thought I would get.
I agree 100% on "Duty VS Passion" being the best track on the score; so much is conveyed in that track that cannot be explained unless you're actually playing the game.
Great review!
I've been saying it for years. Only 3 games moved me to tears. FF7, Max Payne 2, and Jade Empire.
People despise MP2 for the story? For real? I have trouble wrapping my head around it, tbh. This game has (for me) the most emotionally impactful plot of all videogames that I played, it even helped me discover the film noir genre, so to this day I watch and re-watch every noir or ne-noir style film from 1940s onward to get that almost cathartic set of emotions MP2 once provided for me.
Same here. There used to be a time that I would make it a tradition to re-install MP2 every Thanksgiving Day weekend and play the game again. 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and it must have tapered off sometime after that.
I would, however, say my favorite track is the one that you here when Max is going down the elevator and finds Winterson arresting Mona. The few seconds in the beginning convey an unnerving, palpable build-up and tension.
The game hooked me, dragged me into it's world. Max Payne 1 was a single piece of bait put on a hook and line. Max Payne 2 was bigger bait, and more hooks. Both times I took the bait. both times I couldn't stop until the playthrough was done.
And now all that's left is Max Payne 3. It's kinda funny, how the lineup room only has slots for 3 people. As if it was fated Max Payne would have a trilogy.
I'm totally going to watch this instead of doing my 2 papers due tomorrow.
Yay procrastination!!
This. ^
I'm going to be a total killjoy and recommend you finish the papers. I know it's not fun but you'll be glad you did it.
Doing the same thing
>Mfw I'm doing the same thing
im doing the same.
There’s also Max’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosop
TO BE FAIR, YOU NEED A VERY HIGH IQ TO UNDERSTAND MAX PAYNE 2
Goddammit! You guys just ruined my serious mood about the story of max payne!
Fucking love it
And yes, I do have a Max Payne tattoo. It's for the ladies eyes only, and only if they've played five Max Payne games beforehand.
...and his attraction to broken women...
@@monte6777 yaaa it ISS soo damnnn subtlee and plus I hope a good director pick up on the game story and make it into a masterpiece which will stand among the greatest
4:28 , This is the EXACT Reason I never played Max Payne 1 on pc even though I owned it on both Pc and Xbox.
I did not realize you could separate the bullet-time and Leap until about 6 months ago when I finally broke down and needed to play the game again.
If any games deserve an HD Remake, its Max Payne 1+2
IT'S HAPPENING BROOO🎉🎉
@@saifmbappe5544 you have no idea how happy I am for this remake.
and its kinda crazy about all the replies I got to comments I left all over the place from years ago wanting Remasters of the games
@@SrtRacerBoy haha same
I have always wanted a remake for these legendary games
And hopefully this remake sells well and we get a new MP game🙏🏼
yo this shit crazy yo
Honestly I don't even want a remake as original games are always better. But it's gonna be hype and good for people who wants it.
Don't answer that.
A rhetorical question
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IT'S THE PAIN IN THE BUTT
PAIN TO THE MAX
You're still on for poker, R I I I I I G H T ? ? ? ? ?
In loving memory of Kitty.
Oh my god, oh god you shot me!
*AAAAAHHHHH*
UncannyMatt NOOOOOOOOOOO!
>Best song of Max Payne 2
>not Late Goodbye
disliked, unsubbed, reported and called the cops.
Someone noticed. Thank god lol
yeah, he could have ended the video with that music.
Mirrors are more fun than television
Another expertly well-made video by Raycevick. I love these analysis videos you're making and I'm always on my toes when a new one is uploaded because of the high standard you're maintaining and pushing with every new video. Keep up the amazing work man :)
Raycevick, dearest of all my channels!
Max Payne has literally never been uninstalled from my computer since I installed it when it first came out. It’s a classic that went beyond being underrated and still is. The story, the music, the gameplay and the bullet time! I still play it and can play it over and over again. I’d love to see a Unreal Engine Max Payne redo with current 4K graphics! I’d donate to that.
well your wish seems to be granted. Remedy is working on the remake of 1 and 2 :)
@@g_n_5547 Don’t you f**king play with my emotions lol. Whaaaatt!!??
@@elthanos879 oh yeh they are combining both games into one in the same engine they used for control and quantum break
@@elthanos879 bro u didnt heard the news? We not playin :D
"Throw the rules out the window, odds are you'll go that way too"
"MAX! WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION I DIDN'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO.
That game is a true masterpiece, it holds my admiration even today 16 years later, him wandering like an ignorant child who fell for Mona Sax, and being blind that Vlad has been trying to kill him all along
"With the speed that will make Neo run for the payphone"
Hot damn
That transition at 6:54 was top notch, well done Rayce!
"Moving at a speed that would make neo run for a pay phone" made me laugh out loud. Great video. Max payne is my favorite video game series
As a kid that replayed Max Payne 2 over twenty times on my cousin's PC in 2004 I agree with this video and its entirety. Despite not experiencing Max Payne 1 before playing its sequel; I could still feel and sense the dark and rich tone this game had.
I love it and still see it as one of the best noir style games of all time.
As for Max Payne 1, I love its origin and wilder aspects for comparison as well. However, Max Payne 2 has something I still hold to this day; both are fantastic titles and truly worthy of Remedy's best products.
another game that deserves a worthy video is.. Syphon Filter! its crazy the lack of attention that series has gotten..The first was on god level!
"In a nightmare, every choice you make is a wrong one"
I remember buying Max Payne 2, getting home, installing it and just playing through it in 1 go through the night. Absolutely loved the game.
I love your videos to death man, keep doing what you doing.
And just an hour or so earlier I was browsing your channel, thinking to myself "man would it be awesome to see another video soon."
Praise be
I had a dream of my wife. She was dead, but it was alright.
You make me cry
Best last words in a video game ever.
...and then "Late Goodbye" starts playing....tears
@@mr.raslyon6626 I legit cried to ittt
My favourite third person shooter of all time
David0vić I prefer hitman but this is a great game
Tahmid Antar My view is that if guns is an important part of the game it's a shooter, no need to be so aggressive
Mr Ojo64 i didnt use guns in hitman expect the final mission at the church in hitman 2 and the funeral in blood money. Its a pure stealth franchise for me i wouldnt call them shooters either.
David0vić If that's you're view that's totally okay.
Moram da primetim da ima previše naših koji su voleli/vole Max Payne generalno. 😂
Doing all this and not mentioning Poets of the Fall?
I swear your videos only get better as time goes on I even rewatch these sometimes cause of the loads of information. Keep it up dude.
This is so incredibly deep and thorough, thank you for sharing your amazing analysis of this classic. I might just reinstall these.
You always garner an instant like and an uncontrollable yelp of excitement from me. Thank you for the consistently amazing content, sir!!
Still is my favorite game of all time after all these years. The only problem I have with it, is the length, it's too damn short!
Hairy Cornflake that's what makes it beautiful. Imagine if it was too long? Would it have been as great as this? Maybe the game needed more add ons but the time was 2002. I don't wish it was long the shortness of it the amazing story is what has made it powerful for me for years
Oh yes indeed!
In a way you could also say it felt too short because it was too good. I see it that way. But yeah, I'd rather have a short yet awesome through and through, than a boring long ass game.
Hairy Cornflake we can also argue that the game was soo good we wanted more. I agree with your point of being too short but my belief is that is what made this game great. I wish there was more games like this but there is no gaming company which pays attention to detail. I wish rockstar can give remedy max Payne back. It also makes me sad how much gaming has changed its so shit now
Yeah man, I agree with you on that!
vlad was such a cool villain
You talking like Max Payne at the introduction, Cool man.
You are absolutely amazing at making videos, i have just watched every single one back to back! awesome work!
The outro song 'Late Goodbye' by Poets of the Fall is something I hoped you would have touched on, I felt it capped the game really well and added a good emotional through line, since the song mirrors Max in his thoughts and problems. Almost like it was his late goodbye.
I can't believe he didn't mention it.
15:34
Oh shit, I did that "Gotta get a grip" wallpaper and i STILL CAN'T BELIEVE YOU USED IT FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL VIDEO
Homie COME TO BRAZIL PLEASE
Very well put together video, kudos. This game captivated me, and I still find myself posting Payne 2 quotes on my social media platforms. The noir setting really resonated with me and this game was the full package - action, story, and adventure.
Excellent work as always Lucas. I'm hoping there's a video coming for Max Payne 3. I can't get enough of this series.
Life knows two miseries: Getting what you don’t want and not getting what you want.
'Bang, your dead Max Payne!' Lol I always loved that line.
This is becoming one of my favorite channels, keep it up!
21:07 OMG that track... Makes me remember all the feels I got when I finished this game....
A Raycevick and GVMERS video in one day? FUCK YEAH!
Who is gvmers?
gvmaers is underrated
Mandalore gaming is another underrated gaming channel
thnx to u people i got 2 more awesome channels to kill time..u can also suggest more if u know any
Dead baite he has great stuff aswell
I love the MP games so much. I used to have a saved game in MP2 (or 1, I can't remember) where a bunch of Bad Guys are climbing a stairwell. I would bullet time down those steps guns blazing and it was just pure violent beauty. What's best is that due to the physics engine, debris would fall in random patterns, or the bad guys might react in a different way, so every scene on those steps would play out slightly differently, every time.
man your videos are pure freaking gold. Keep up with the awesome word
Thank you so much for doing this! Please do the third one!
I still love this game to this day, its a joy to play through each time.
yes daddy please more
Damn
Amazing job, keep up the good work!
Every video you release is so comprehensive and tightly shipped. Thorough, positive and negative aspects of each title, analysing creative, mechanics, designs, production etc etc... say it with every video I see you've released - best Game Review channel on YT. Keep it up Rayceboi
Where is spongebob battle for bikini bottom years later?
Weaponized Meme My favorite PS2 game
Edit: Actually Barnyard is.
Aye that was my shit!
That game is shit
FreakToPlay so is your opinion
Loved both
Remedy's games just have this dark and quiet feel that I dont think another studio can reproduce. Its very clear in Max Payne and I was really happy that Control had it too.
Amazing video as always! Can't wait for your analysis of the third game in which is one of my favorite series ever.
6:55, dat transition, great video!
"yet they were seduced..." shows video of Mona in the shower... cheeky editing there friendo! lol
Hehe mona arse
There was a quote towards the end of this video that gave me chills when I heard it:
"From the opening cutscene, The Fall of Max Payne is about the past. How running from it only allows it to consume you and that the only true way to overcome it, is to confront it; to risk the damage and madness that comes from facing it until you're truly set free."
The reason being is this is also a perfect summary of Cowboy Bebop, possibly my favorite TV show ever. I played the first two Max Payne games for the first time recently and loved them both but especially The Fall of Max Payne, now it makes perfect sense to me why I like the story so much, so thanks for that.
Your videos are always an eye opener !
Damn you for uploading this right before my shift starts! But then again, thank you for giving me something to look forward to after I get off work.
Finally a video on my favorite games of all time!
Yeah, mine too!
My favorite of the series.
I was wondering when you would release this. Top shelf, I do say sir!Top shelf!
Your Max Payne "Series" is so amazingly done. clever and entertaining. I love your channel !!!
I never knew I could move so fast in bullet time so I played this game exactly like I did for max payne 1, shoot dodging my way through
What a beautiful video!
I dunno why, but the main theme of MP2 gets me paranoic and causes fear, lol.
MP1 gave me trauma... in that hotel. In the confrotation with that russian demoniac guy. (I was 11 at the time)
I wish I had the ability to write a script perfectly just like you do. Congrats, sir.
Greetings from Brazil!
TheSilentEvil agreed I will never forget I have tasted the flesh of fallen angels creepy but awesome.
Thanks for putting this out. I love the old Max Payne games and they never seem to get talked about today. Great video
Dude, great video!! You reminded me playing this Max Payne 2 port on my oldie PS2, good memories though. Nice quality, nice narrative, thank you kind sir for your upload.
Everyones been naming there videios years later after u raycevick.u started a trend
U mean me lol
English isn't required to make a comment, but effort in the spelling is.
U mean me and DT lol.
Hi whitelight! also Ray popularized it u just started it
People have been using “Years Later” for many games for several years already. Raycevick just made it more trendy
I remember the alternate ending vividly, and was appreciative of it- it felt like waking up. I believe you had to beat the game before you could do the higher difficulty, so you had already experienced the tragedy, and having your anticipation subverted was welcome when you were primed for unremitting loss.
Man, I am quite glad that you did this. Some good memories of 2003 autumn/winter. Remember when i saw MP2 at the market and didnt buy it instantly when i could, but returned 1-2 weeks later and bought it automatically and then - over and over again playing this masterpiece sequel.
Excellent video. On point
I talked to Sam Lake in a christmas party last year and tried to drunkenly grill him on the subject of Max Payne 3's writing, and surprisingly enough he did give some solid answers. He refused to comment on the quality of Houser's writing of the game's story, but he did give me a startling revelation that demonstrated Rockstar's ignorance of the game's style and theme in regards to storytelling. According to Sam, Houser and the rest of the writing team behind Max Payne 3 had *entirely* *forgotten* *Max's* *inner* *monologue.* Rockstar actually got Sam to fill in the blanks they left with genuine Max monologue in appropriate scenes. Without his involvement, it would have been an entirely different type of narrative, and I doubt the players could have related as well to Max without being able to read his thoughts.
I highly doubt they could forget the inner monologue. It's what the Max Payne stories are based around.
Plutonia Na Rockstar are usual smart with its writing so i call bullshit.
+Eric Nick
Rockstars writing been utter shit since after max payne 2 and gta vice city times and only goten worse over time
Insiainutorr T Uh no not by a long shot.
I could believe it, but pics or it didn't happen
I just finished this game for the first time today and I look into my RUclips feed and see this.
the hands of fate had a plan for you
Great video, enjoyed it all.
Bravo ! Quality retrospective !
Great video as always my friend. Quick Question, do you think you will do a video on Assassin's Creed at all?
I would love a metro critique series.
Dude, loved the intro. Great video.
I can't thank you enough for this video, man. It is THE ultimate Max Payne 2 video I've been looking for.
Was wondering if there will be a third video for the final game in the series,but would probably be a no since its still too soon...
...until I noticed it got released 5 years ago.Damn does time sure fly.
I played this game when I was 14. It changed me. The first time I cried after playing a videogame - later to cry in Mass Effect and Assassin's Creed Revelations.
I honestly never saw a video from a channel and subscribe and hit the bell from the first video i watched. But u man r a legend keep up the good work man :)
Seriously I love your videos.
Keep it up man.
The good old times when we thought computer games would only get better with time.
Not consistently, but they did.
Maxs lust for Mona is unexplained to me.
How the heck this happened
I just watched two of your videos and now I feel the need to watch all of them just to listen to your godlike voice.
Such a nice and detailed video. Thank you!
One of my favourite games of all time! Love the analysis. I agree 2 is not so difficult, unless you play on "dead on arrival", but i prefer it to 1 in every single way. The music, the setting, the desperation, falling down in to the rabbit hole, refine gameplay, etc.. I never played 3, but i know i will not like it as much as 1 and 2. There some interviews given by Remedy hints that they don't like the direction of 3 or at least sounds like that. I wish i'm that well spoken :D My favourite quote from the game: "Max, dearest of all my friends. I was supposed to be the hero". The last words of Vlad.
not really, MP3 is considered to be a worthy sequel by remedy afaik, Sam Lake is on board for helping the Houser's make the story. but i get your point. MP3 doesn't feels like a Max Payne game, it feels like a generic TPS with Max in it
@@caro1015 They probably should've went with the initial setting in Russia instead of Brazil. A much more fitting location for a somber character like Max
@@caro1015
Max Payne 3 on pc is the greatest 3rd person shooter of all time. The combat, gunplay and physics are unmatched to this day.
@@caro1015
Yes, Max Payne 3 is different than the previous games, but that doesn't mean it's bad or generic .
@@olzhas1one755I feel like most people who dislike MP 3 only dislike it for having a different atmosphere than the first two games and ignore everything good about that game . They are so biased .
Max Payne 2 is one of my top 10 games of all time. The story, the gameplay, the feeling I get when I play that game...just nothing like it.
By the way, is there a chance you could do one video for Operation Flashpoint? Also a game from my childhood and my country. Grew up with all the cool characters, enjoyed the grim reality of cold war combat and never managed to get how the hell to properly use the AI controls.
Thank you for uploading this.
I love the structure of this video. It feels like how a review should be. You (in my book) are the text book example of a review.