Wow people in the comments have no clue what it takes to win a car show with a classic car. This kinda video is just a simple trick to tighten up gaps. This is what judges look for perfection.
How would you go about it then if the body lines all line up already? Pull the rear quarters forward to fill the gap? Likely this will make the tail piece and trunk lid not line up, same for the hood and front quarters. This problem was likely created by a bad rear quarter replacement panel or door skin. I'm genuinely asking, not trying to be a wise guy.
@@ChErRyaVe20pK HACK JOB, hinges should be shimmed to align the door properly. Even with bondo, primer, and paint it would rust within a year or 2. He is a butcher !!!!
@Dave in MONTANA But im confused. Why would the metal that hes adding on the edge rust versus the metal that was there before? If your statement is true, then shouldnt the door edge rust regardless?
@@ChErRyaVe20pK no, it's because of the differenc in the metal of the door VS the metal from the welding rod and the pores left in the welds VS the smooth edge of the bent door skin. Shimming the door to make the gap equal on the front and back of the door is the proper way to fix it and take just a few minutes VS spot welding and grinding then bondoing then sanding.
@@jameseastwood4984 which is what I have done. I have watched so many videos on door gaps. All pertain to gaps that are to wide. Not much on gaps that are tight. But there is always a smart a#$ every group. Thanks for the advice. Some people on here might should think about solutions to a problem instead of being a problem.
Is the worst idea to fix that problem. Better to fix the reason who cause this. Maybe you fix this but the geometry of this car I'm sure that it sucks. This car probably it would be so "straight" as a horse shoe.
This technique is used for a variety of reasons including mating aftermarket and factory sheet metal, excessive tolerances on original factory sheet metal - especially on older vehicles, etc. The car is straight, body lines all aligning, doors matching up nicely, the gap was just wide so this is a way to address it.
Not to burst your bubble but if you have a gap that you have to do that to,you still need to do some pulling somewhere !!that is never the solution to fix a wide gap !! Very amateurish fix !!!!!
@@jameseastwood4984 you need to put the car on a frame tugger and do some measurements !!if you got a gap that is that wide you have something bent somewhere !!!
@@rdmanagereastwood1245im sorry but there's no way that's the OE spec. unless the tolerances for the gap are that intense the other guy is right. if your gaps are that large something is bent
You just ruined the "classic"-ness of your car... from the factory, classic cars were not perfect. Knowing the imperfections from the factory is what would make you a classic car enthusiast/ restorationist...
Not the correct way in repairing or restoring a car . The ---up bodyman could not replace body panels right . Before welding or spot welding any panel on everything has to line up correctly . Some of you so called body man complain about it's the panels . No It is YOU or your shop taking short cuts . Not the right way . If this was my car and I know some -----off -------- my car like this . I will take the shop to court and they will have to pay to get it back right if another shop would take on a ------up like this . Everything lines up just right !!!!!!! LOL bull------- .
That is a bad hack ! Either the quarter panel, door shell or skin is not on correctly. I am an ASE collision and mechanical certified tech and this butchery is in no way a repair that is taught or even mentioned in any ICAR repair procedure! Go back to school and become a technician before you kill someone with your primitive repairs!
Dude, this is restoration, not repair from some collision or something. You have to work with what you got. He could have hand-fabbed some of these panels, had to steal a door off another car, had to buy some reman door, etc. Fit on old cars was not good to begin with, let alone putting parts from one car onto another.
How in the world is he going to kill someone by tacking on that little thin rod! Wait a minute, you are one of those perfect people that knows everything about everything! That’s it! I’m also an ASE certified tech and have been for more than 20 years and I see nothing that he has done that will get someone killed!
I know more than most ...almost 40 years of hands on in the trade . Yes he can kill someone...if the vehicle is not put together properly the crush zones will not do what they are designed to do. Why do you all want to ignore a professional who is trying to enlighten people. This makes no difference to me ...go ahead and listen to the hack then go into a real repair facility and ask them to perform that repair and they will laugh you out the door. There is one way to do a repair and that's the right way....according to ICAR standards.
@@mikebentley4832 welding the edge of the door like that wont kill anyone but imagine the repairs it took him to get him in that situation. If he were to do that repair in any reputable shop he would be thrown out on his ass
Better idea is to fix the reason it doesn't line up.
He fabricated the skin, so it probably is the reason.
Ignorant comment lol do you think old cars were manufactured with perfect gaps?
You obviously have zero clue what you’re talking about.
You’re not very bright, are you? Lol
It does line up!... lining up and gapping is completely different. Lined up perfect but has a gap..
The correct term for this in the shop is a hack job
Please define "Hack Job".
Wow people in the comments have no clue what it takes to win a car show with a classic car. This kinda video is just a simple trick to tighten up gaps. This is what judges look for perfection.
Should be able to get that with adjusting the hinges
Body panels are the blueprint of the car, if it doesn’t fit you have a problem,
This is not how you fix the problem!
make a video showing us how it's done the right way.
my man, its custom work 🙄
It's 60 to 70s car the spec for tolerance was 1 inch on a 66 mustang this is what you do to fix it
Sound like you talking out your ass
Love y'all's videos..they have gave me confidence to do it myself
Well when you're doing it the wrong way, it can make anyone confident.
I've watched this one before, great results.
Reproduction parts usually fit funky as they are not stamped out using original equipment and presses no longer in service
What is the door fit like in the front? Tight? Move door to the rear!!!!
Take a moment and watch the other video!!!!! Front is good this why he did this
Makes sense, sort of like the drywallers using the aluminum angle pieces for outer edge corners.
Nice! You've now weaponized your door for high wind days, or tight parkers, let'm park too close now!! 😂😂👍
Great idea. I'm getting so tired of people randomly walking up to me and telling me my door gaps are unacceptable in a modern civilized society.
If you do it rite no one should say anything but gaps look great 👍
It's even easier to put a couple washers in the door hinge to push it back
Which way, I got a obs Ford that's got a big gap up by the rain rail, I tried adjusting for a few hours and no go
Or adjust the hinges...
It's so nice to see Datsuns making a resurgence. What year z?
I'm pretty confident that it would be faster to oval out the holes in the hinges and just slide it back
Depending on the door to fender fit.
Maybe it’s after market junk he is making work
Why dont you pull it on the frame machine so it back to its original form?
Just got my panel gaps set on my 240sx can finally open the doors this really does take a lot of patience..
I have replaced a couple hundred 1/4 panels just like that and you dont weld anything until it all lines up!
How would you go about it then if the body lines all line up already? Pull the rear quarters forward to fill the gap? Likely this will make the tail piece and trunk lid not line up, same for the hood and front quarters. This problem was likely created by a bad rear quarter replacement panel or door skin. I'm genuinely asking, not trying to be a wise guy.
@@farmyardfab if it lines up welder up. Sometimes its very difficult to make everything fit. The parts dont lie. Either it fits or it doesnt.9
Nice ! What rod did you use ?
Why not add 8th of an inch behind the door hinges instead? Seems like a lot of hassle this way and a bit of a john wayne job if u ask me
What's that attached to the neck of the mig gun?
I'm guessing you replaced the rear quarter, and you can not pull the door back any further? Ask me how I know, first time for everything!
Dude, I appreciate your analysis of the problem. Nice
I learned this in Auto Body class in High school. Great experience!!
Not the correct way to repair. Is shell bent or post in?
I love door edge guards, why not use some chrome ones here? Thanks…Jim
A "simple trick" that only requires advanced experience with a welder, so simple!
Excellent thanks for sharing
Gonna be a nice z car
I prefer shims but I'm old fashioned
Aligne it properly ❌
Weld metal on to fix alignment issue✅
The gaps from the factory on these cars are not good to begin with. If you're trying to get show car fitment this is often the way.
I like how you use the seam of your glove on the thumb to hold the tip of the gun
I used ally use like the middle of my thumb to hold the tip or middle of the gun
I thought he was welding the door shut.
That should buff right out
One good pot hold and one of the doors won’t open again 😂
I'd have moved the entire door back to close the gap first. If that worked I'd leave it.
@Keith Clark not necessarily fender can be in the right place and the door itself is to far forward. I've seen it many times
@Keith Clark so true need to see the whole side. Could have installed quarter to far back who knows
Ahh I miss welding been a few years
Tesla should really watch this video
That's gonna rust out quickly
You think he's just gonna leave it bare metal?
@@ChErRyaVe20pK HACK JOB, hinges should be shimmed to align the door properly. Even with bondo, primer, and paint it would rust within a year or 2. He is a butcher !!!!
@Dave in MONTANA But im confused. Why would the metal that hes adding on the edge rust versus the metal that was there before? If your statement is true, then shouldnt the door edge rust regardless?
@@ChErRyaVe20pK no, it's because of the differenc in the metal of the door VS the metal from the welding rod and the pores left in the welds VS the smooth edge of the bent door skin. Shimming the door to make the gap equal on the front and back of the door is the proper way to fix it and take just a few minutes VS spot welding and grinding then bondoing then sanding.
@@daveinmontana7726 I understand now. Thanks.
Dont adjust the door to fit the opening.
I totally love the end result. Dude nailed it
They didn't even close the door to show the gap. That's cause it didn't work well. Why not show it with the door closed...
Body must be way off if you have to make the door long. Not good at all 🇬🇧 good I suppose if you like driving in circles 😂😂😂😂
Didnt even show the finished results
It's a short... watch the full video on this car being top coated here: How to Paint: ruclips.net/video/BfNHnTg4lLg/видео.html
beautiful work
Something Tesla doesnt understand when making new cars...let alone others doing repairs.
This is fine when your gap is to wide. Does nothing for gaps that are to tight.
Wow you are genius mom must be so proud
Grind the edge off and re-weld a bead down it?
Firm grasp of the obvious.
@@S42069 your mom must have raise a smart a%$.
@@jameseastwood4984 which is what I have done. I have watched so many videos on door gaps. All pertain to gaps that are to wide. Not much on gaps that are tight. But there is always a smart a#$ every group. Thanks for the advice. Some people on here might should think about solutions to a problem instead of being a problem.
Why does this look like a datsun
Is warpage a concern in this area?
He still ground stuff down anyway so????
Nah bro......just weld it shut , you even have the torch right there ffs.
😂😂😂what 😳 hole crap of rust soon
Is the worst idea to fix that problem.
Better to fix the reason who cause this.
Maybe you fix this but the geometry of this car I'm sure that it sucks.
This car probably it would be so "straight" as a horse shoe.
This technique is used for a variety of reasons including mating aftermarket and factory sheet metal, excessive tolerances on original factory sheet metal - especially on older vehicles, etc. The car is straight, body lines all aligning, doors matching up nicely, the gap was just wide so this is a way to address it.
This is some hack shit
Not to burst your bubble but if you have a gap that you have to do that to,you still need to do some pulling somewhere !!that is never the solution to fix a wide gap !! Very amateurish fix !!!!!
You obviously know what you're talking about, but please explain how you 'pull' a door aperture smaller.
@@jameseastwood4984 you need to put the car on a frame tugger and do some measurements !!if you got a gap that is that wide you have something bent somewhere !!!
It’s a factory gap from Nissan, there was no damage I just didn’t like the size gap ass
@@rdmanagereastwood1245 bullshit
@@rdmanagereastwood1245im sorry but there's no way that's the OE spec. unless the tolerances for the gap are that intense the other guy is right. if your gaps are that large something is bent
Lavoro da non fare. Probabilmente lo sportello è troppo avanti provare qualche spessore nelle cerniere.
Heres an idea install the door and quarter panel correctly and you wont need to butcher it with wire to close the gap!
Simple??
We do not need your service anyone.
Um hack city
🤤
Raise the door up on hinges then slide top hinge back. Easy peasy. This is butchered.
Definitely don’t want this person working on my Porsche chassis
Kinda doesn’t line up nice
Hack job. There is something wrong bigtime with a gap that large.
Butcher
Very cool skills, but this is wank, isn't it? What does it matter??
Old trick
Total bodge
You just ruined the "classic"-ness of your car... from the factory, classic cars were not perfect. Knowing the imperfections from the factory is what would make you a classic car enthusiast/ restorationist...
Learn how to pull a car properly first
Not the correct way in repairing or restoring a car . The ---up bodyman could not replace body panels right . Before welding or spot welding any panel on everything has to line up correctly . Some of you so called body man complain about it's the panels . No It is YOU or your shop taking short cuts . Not the right way . If this was my car and I know some -----off -------- my car like this . I will take the shop to court and they will have to pay to get it back right if another shop would take on a ------up like this . Everything lines up just right !!!!!!! LOL bull------- .
Hack
That is a bad hack ! Either the quarter panel, door shell or skin is not on correctly. I am an ASE collision and mechanical certified tech and this butchery is in no way a repair that is taught or even mentioned in any ICAR repair procedure! Go back to school and become a technician before you kill someone with your primitive repairs!
Dude, this is restoration, not repair from some collision or something. You have to work with what you got. He could have hand-fabbed some of these panels, had to steal a door off another car, had to buy some reman door, etc. Fit on old cars was not good to begin with, let alone putting parts from one car onto another.
How in the world is he going to kill someone by tacking on that little thin rod! Wait a minute, you are one of those perfect people that knows everything about everything! That’s it! I’m also an ASE certified tech and have been for more than 20 years and I see nothing that he has done that will get someone killed!
Having a piece of paper is different from hands on experience just like your comment implies.
I know more than most ...almost 40 years of hands on in the trade . Yes he can kill someone...if the vehicle is not put together properly the crush zones will not do what they are designed to do. Why do you all want to ignore a professional who is trying to enlighten people. This makes no difference to me ...go ahead and listen to the hack then go into a real repair facility and ask them to perform that repair and they will laugh you out the door. There is one way to do a repair and that's the right way....according to ICAR standards.
@@mikebentley4832 welding the edge of the door like that wont kill anyone but imagine the repairs it took him to get him in that situation. If he were to do that repair in any reputable shop he would be thrown out on his ass
That's that's bad ass work
Nope wrong you slide the door back a little to compensate...
Just install it correctly on the beginning. Stupid simple.. this is just hack work.