Koine vs Modern Greek: An introduction / The Professor with the Bow - Tie
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Some similarities and differences between Koine Greek and modern Greek language. Introductory observations by The Professor with the Bow - Tie
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One thing that separates Koine from Modern Greek is this: The authors of The Gospels THOUGHT in Aramaic and WROTE In Greek, with their Greek coming off rather awkwardly with a Semitic influence in grammar (e.g. Ο Άνθρωπος ο καλός, from a phrase like האש הטוב in Hebrew, for instance).
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The NT was written by a number of different authors each with his own style. Luke writes in a literary and eloquent style. The introductions to his Gospel and Acts are almost classical in style. No doubt, Greek was his mother tongue, unlike the other writers who learnt Greek as a second language. Nevertheless, Hebraisms are found in his gospel and Acts because of the nature of the subject matter. Similarly, the style of Greek used in the Epistle to the Hebrews is highly literary with a sophisticated vocabulary. For these reasons, some have speculated that Luke was the author of Hebrews. In contrast to Luke and the author of Hebrews, John and Mark write using a restricted vocabulary and short simple sentences with lots of “καί”s / “and”s. The “καί”s / “and”s are equivalent to the waw or vav conjunctive commonly used in the Hebrew OT.
Except John he was literally a philosopher or something like that when he wrote that gospel cause he used a lot of helenisms
Thanks for this great content! I would like to ask a question. If someone intents to learn both Modern and Koine Greek, does the pronounciation much matter? To concentrate on modern pronounciation might be more efficient then? Or does the pronounciation transport so much more information? Would be great if you share your thoughts about it. Thanks in advance.
Hello and thank you for your comment! Yes, pronunciation does matter, especially if you want to communicate effectively with native speakers or understand spoken Greek. But for the koine Greek the Greeks use the pronunciation of modern Greek to pronounce it. So, in my opinion it is better if you learn the modern Greek pronunciation.
@@TheProfessorwiththeBowTie Thanks a lot for your prompt answer. I will use modern pronounciation then.
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Parabéns. Vou continuar sempre dando uma espiadinha.
Thank you for your kind words!!
I’ve been studying Koine for 8 months and would like to get away from Erasmian pronunciation. Would you recommend Kantor’s reconstructed or Zachariou’s historical pronunciation? Thank you!
If you're studying Koine Greek for linguistic or historical purposes, you might prefer Kantor's approach. If you're interested in the musical or performance aspects of the language, Zachariou's reconstruction could be more suitable.
Hello professor, I studied greek (modern greek) last year and I reached some level and I tried to learned ancient greek because I'm already have some knowledge with modern greek. The hardest thing to learn about ancient greek is its have many dialects variation like attic, ionic, doric and many other. Each dialect have its own features, for example, in ancient greek, Phileo means I love in most of greek dialects but in aeolic dialects verb conjugation is very different it becomes Philemi. Ancient greek have extremely complex verbal system and nominal declensions.Believe it or not, I learn ancient greek first declension(alpha declension) and it took one month and 13 day to remember one word. 😂😂😂😂
You are learning a very difficult language!! Even Greeks who study ancient Greek for years can't remember a lot of things... You are praiseworthy for this!! 👏👏👏👏
You shouldn't learn all Ancient Greek dialects. Nobody does that. You should just focus on Attic. This would simplify your journey. The fact that you also know Modern Greek will make it easier for you because you are going to see connections.
Για σού! Τί γνώμη έχετε για την ερασμαικης προφορά;; Γιατί φαίνεται τόσο fake. Τα ελληνικά τού Έρασμος είναι απάτη η όντος έτσι είναι τά αρχεία ελληνικά. Είμαι ρουμανος και με ενδιαφέρει πάρα πολύ για τής σπουδές μου. Απάντησε μου σε παρακαλώ. Η ερασμαικη προφορά είναι αποδεκτή από την φιλολογική κοινότητα της Ελλάδας;; Ευχαριστώ!!
Στην Ελλάδα δεν χρησιμοποιείται η ερασμιακή προφορά. Αυτό δεν σημαίνει ότι η ερασμιακή προφορά είναι απάτη. Προσπαθεί να αποδώσει την αρχαία ελληνική προφορά αλλά δεν είναι τόσο εύκολο ούτε μπορεί να γίνει με ακρίβεια. Καλή συνέχεια στις σπουδές σου!!
Technically, and ironically, the Koine Greek of the Hellenistic and Roman periods WAS the δημοτική of it's time, while the more florid literary Attic was like the καθαρεύουσα of it's day, the only difference being that the latter was an artificial puristic form, as you know, and the former the more "High" Koine of its day.
Very good analogy δημοτική and καθαρεύουσα!! It seems you know a lot for the history of Greek language... 👏👏
@@TheProfessorwiththeBowTie Not as much as yourself, κυρία!
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What would suggest for a beginner who wants to read the Bible in Greek? Would modern or ancient be better? I feel like learning I am a real language in modern. Thanks.
It would be better to learn the modern Greek language first. It is a lot easier this way!! You can speak with Greeks and also you can understand the ancient language!!
Ευχαριστώ, I’m learning in baby steps.
Damn it is incredible as greek speakers sounds like spaniards
Yassas! Question, is it pronounced Koiné or (Kinee)?
Efkaristou 🙏🏻
According to erasmian pronunciation it is pronounced like koine and according to modern Greek like kinee.
@@TheProfessorwiththeBowTie Ευχαριστώ πολύ! Επίσης, μου αρέσει το παπιγιόν σου ☺
@@carlosacta8726 Ευχαριστώ πολύ! 😀
If you are greek, one really cannot tell by your pronunciation of typical sh, g, j etc! 👍
Thank you!!
They are completely difrent languages mother Greek can’t understand koine Greek period very small amount of words are the same also Slavic alphabet is made by using koine Greek alphabet which we beg the question old Macedonias used same alphabet as koine Helen language but whole different accent just like Slavic languages today they are same alphabet but most can’t understand each other
How are you sure? I am Greek and I understand everything, as most my compatriots... Or you assume that I am a liar.. Greetings from Athens, Greece. By the way where you from? Don't tell me North Macedonia 😂😂
@@paulrudiger2552 no you don’t they are done who do you might be one of them but most dont understand my family comes from yanina also we have lots of land in Solun where Greek government took it from my grandparents and chased them off their own homes if you know what I mean in 1930
Wonder why your language is more like Bulgarian and any other slavic language than Greek. Every linguist will tell you that Slavic languages did not by any chance evolve from what ancient Macedonians spoke, this is just false.
@@PetrosGolt well Bulgarian is more like mine and 2 guys that moderated the language was Kiril and metodia both born in solun Macedonia at that time Macedonia was whole country it wasn’t Greek nor Bulgarian nor Serbian now they didn’t make new language but what they did is fixed the one they were talking they made the language easier so people can use it which means old ancient Macedonias were speaking same language we speak today probably difrent accent but alphabet is the same very similar to your alphabet kirilic
@@leonidtodorovski635 haha Kyrillos? That is after christ, Im talking about Alexander and the rest of the Argead dynasty. If you say that ancient Macedonians spoke what slavic you are delusional. Read about the slavic migration that happend in 600AD and why Kyrillos and Methodius who were Greek missionaries made a alphabet worth having because until the you were analphabets. No1 He was born in Thessaloniki, today it is in Greek part of Macedonia.
No2 when he lived there was no country called Macedonian, it was part of Byzantine Empire. A empire which was ruled be Greeks.