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Leandros had decades of shared combat experience with titus to honestly question his judgement. I understand being the annoying codex safety representative but when the choices are mission failure or "hold my beer, I got this" he Chose to do what nobody else could. Plus objecting as an adviser with no suggested alternative action most often is wasted effort and time.. time being the most important. It's cute leandros is still mad for titus unfriending him
For me, Leandros’ failure was to ignore the chain of command. A whole company was present, which means the chaplain of the 2nd company was there - so Leandros was right to raise the question but it should have been raised to the chaplain. NOT the inquisition
I’d say the perceived norm in the imperium at that point is that those who can ignore the effects of chaos, particular a space marine is probably a servant of a chaos
@@ccboy259 fairly respectable theory honestly, I mean if you remember the Dark Imperium trilogy in the 2nd novel Guilliman straight up orders a young girl killed who is in fact being possessed by John Warhammer, so I mean to the imperium you’re literally fucked 100% of the time no matter what
@@MyraTalisenHe still isn't winning. Leandros jumping the chain of command and going straight to the Inquisition is inviolation of The Codex. He is guilty of not keeping this matter internal andtelling aChaplain first.
He was a good blueberry that followed the rules , don't know why ppl hate leandros so much . Other then the guy is clearly following the lore and not just driving forward into a coke using adrenaline Chad bro fest. ppl that can't see and respect the man from what he's saying clearly don't know 40k lore .not saying you gotta like the Smurf but space marines are not John Wayne . A space marine lives a life of service to the emp . I think this was a great video showing how both Marines were doing that in there own way , chaos just chuckles because the changing of ways can come for either one of them so witch one was right?
4:48 Black Templars "Why yes, we DEFINITELY only have 1,000 battle brothers. Yep yep, totally staying within that 1k threshold. No deviation there whatsoever."
Also the Black Templars: If we so much as get a HINT of your Inquisitors snooping around, we'll be sure to lead the "Ork Snipers" your way. Space Wolves somewhere: I'm getting the distinct feeling that I agree with something...probably the ale.
"Titus' final speech to Leandros about failing as a Space Marine because he follows the Codex Astartes too rigidly makes a lot more sense when you find that Roboute Guilliman, the Primarch who wrote the Codex, explicitly stated that he couldn't predict everything and that there needs to be room for personal initiative on the battlefield. Without meaning to, Titus is reinforcing Guilliman's message and Leandros is showing the rigid mentality that his own Primarch condemns." "Leandros' failure has another meaning, one more literal, as he actually fails to follow the Codex when he reports Titus to the Inquisition. Proper Codex procedure dictates that any suspicion of heresy or anything of the like is to be reported to an Ultramarines Chaplain first and Leandros violates that when he goes outside of his Chapter with this matter."
Aside from enforcing the 1000 brother limit per chapter which at the time was a good idea post heresy, Space Book was always meant to be a preferred actions guidebook rather than stringent "law". Robute even amitted back in the day that anyone familiar enough with the books tactics could always counter the Marines so it could potentially be fatally flawed. If Robute ever met Leandros I bet it would be an interesting conversation. Wonder if Leandros would accept it or if Robute would have to beat it into him haha
@@Demonica2539I honestly think it would break Leandros if his Primarch told him he was following the Space Book wrong. I could see him falling to chaos damn near immediately if he found out what he believes whole heartedly to be his truth has been wrong for centuries.
Titus, one of the longest serving Ultramarines, hero of Graia, true son of Guilliman, you have been gone too long, but I say it truly, I cannot wait to serve with you again.
@The_ZeroLine All space marines are biologically the children of Primarchs. The gene seed replaces all of their aspirants human DNA with the primarch's DNA.
A major point that I like that we have with Titus is that he is far stronger than he was in the first game. Not just because he is now a primaries marine, but because he is centuries older with new experienced and skills gained after spending so much time in the Deathwatch.
@@djert24 No. What bits have been told were apparently in a White Dwarf magazine and (SPOILERS) you only play as a Deathwatch member in the first level of the game.
@djert24 He served as a Black Shield within Deathwatch, essentially a Space Marine who shuns his Chapter and serves penance. He was mortally wounded and recovered by the Ultramarines who performed the Rubican surgery and not only saved his life but transformed him into a Primaris marine.
53:37 I think you fail to mention that even though Leandros was right about suspecting Titus of corruption, he should have gone to a chaplain of his chapter instead of the inquisition.
@@nopenope8418 Part of what chaplains do is interrogate their fellow marines for warp corruption. Of course the Librarians would be involved too, but so would chaplains.
@@nopenope8418 Probably both, tbh. If the Chaplain cleared him then the Librarius could assess him for latent psychic potential (another possible explanation for his resistance to Warp energies)
It is entirely possible that the librarians and chaplains are not present, are off world, are unavailable, or even KIA. They never say. It is simply implied that Leandros went straight to an Inquisitor with his concerns, who, of course, went overboard with his "due diligence," as most Inquisitors often do. So, yes, I believe Leandros SHOULD have kept his concerns within the chapter &/or company, and probably COULD have. Basically, when he got the Inquisitor involved, it was because he panicked, jumped the gun, skipped the chain of command, and/or even ignored the instructions of the Codex. His concerns were warranted, but his actions in the end went too far.
@@nopenope8418 Both. They both are responsible for looking for signs of deviancy or heresy. But a Chaplain is guaranteed to be with the company whereas a Librarian might not be.
I know it would never happen but with just HOW MANY demons he killed and how big a deal lore wise that is, imagine Robute waves his hand and declares Malum a Chapter Master of some new legion he can name and after a few 100 years we have a whole chapter of frothing mad Caedo aspirants lol
@Demonica2539 Malum Caedo, Chapter master of the WarpSlayers. An ultima founding chapter consists of Primaris Space Marine who have shown a high affinity for Chaos bloodshed and slaughter. Battle Cry: Intense screaming/ Skulls for Ultramar, Blood for the Imperium/ Your gods have adandoned you!
Lameandros being a contrarian wasn't what I hated about him, it was how he acted like a hormonal teenager looking for Daddy's approval and hating him for not listening to him at the same time. For someone in a company command squad such an attitude should have ironed out already, but Leandros seemed like a slow learner. Plus narqing to the Inquisition was a bitch move because the Codex says you should report suspicions of corruption to a Chaplain or Librarian first, so that makes his strict adherence to the rules really hypocritical, not a good look.
@@user-bv2by6rd9w Ultramarines aren't whiny, they they know the codex has room for leniency in terms of combat strategy, because it's ten thousand years old. But they follow the rules of the command structure to the letter
Our boy stopped an entire Ork WAAAGH!! almost single-handedly before also stopping a Chaos incursion, then got demoted to Lt. Now he's about to stop an entire Tyranid swarm and ANOTHER Chaos incursion. Demote that man to Private, he'll bring all the Primarchs back to life, fix the warp storms, save the Imperium, put the Emperor back to sleep before he goes warp-god-super-saiyan, and snake Yvraine while he's at it.
What I feel was Leandro's failing, was contacting inquisition directly with his concerns rather than chapter librarian and letting them to judge the situation. His concern was certainly legit, I feel method he went about it perhaps not.
Not to mention the inherent shame he could bring to a first founding chapter by having a Captain accused of potential heresy is insane; especially for the squeaky clean ultramarines.
The entire point of the chain of contact regarding possible treachery and heresy is to ensure that they only go to the inquisition with valid, and entirely true, threats. Leandros' accusation led to a radical, possibly heretical, inquisitor being swayed by a simple rank and file Ultramarine (compared to a Captain, Chaplain or Librarian). The simple fact the inquisition didn't try to label the entire chapter excommunicae traitoris is a miracle
The Horus Heresy series already converted me, specifically the Decimation of Ultramar period with the Word Bearer's ultimate betrayal. Those books were *chefs kiss*. Actually made Ultramarines look like the angels of death they actually are instead of just the typical "good guys".
I fondly remember when games like BG1 had nice chunky lore booklets to really give you the feel of the world before you played..... The first half of this vid really gives me the feel of that sort of game-prep lore.... it works perfectly to hype you up to play Titus again. I know this vid was sponsored by Focus, but kinda wish they would ask Leutin to provide a combined 40k/Titus primer and add it to the download of the game.... if you know 40k then you'd watch because you probably love his vids.... if you were new to the 40k Universe, it would be the perfect into to that world. Great vid, as always.
Demetrian Titus is Uriel Ventris by another name. Both had a more flexible interpretation of the codex, both had a tattletale sergeant that questioned them, both had to do the penance thing. At least Titus didn't wake up the Nightbringer...
As someone who has consumed hundreds of hours in 40k audiobooks and RUclips vídeos, I enjoy Ultramarines and how they are portrayed, they aren’t a complicated faction. Easy to follow and understand
Titus' resistance to the Warp could be a gift from Big E. He always had a penchant for nudging things in a certain direction without making his participation known. On the other hand, thoughts like that sound like I'm suggesting that not all Warp is bad, which some Inquisitor will definitely dub as heresy.
I came to this channel for the Arma Zeus gameplay, but I stayed for the 40k lore. You really are one of the biggest driving forces that got me into the hobby, and I can't thank you enough for the colossal effort it must have been to compile so much lore and knowledge. Thank you Luetin.
@Lurtin09 correct me if I’m wrong, but Leandros was wrong, turning him over to the inquisition for the codex states the his concern should’ve been taken to the chapter Chaplins. For it’s is there duty to maintain the purity of the chapter.
I have wondered since the first game how Titus was captain of the second company, especially since when the game came out, the table top had Sicarus at the head. I finally get to have that question answered. I also appreciate a lot of the parallels between titus and uriel ventris.
This is why I love Space Wolves and Salamanders. The most human of the Space Marines and the ones that give a shit about humanity instead of it just being "what they're made to do."
Nope. Chaplains and Librarians should have been the ones alerted to Leandros's concerns. Clearly Calgar and chapter command weren't happy about it either considering they demanded Titus back.
It's like calling the CIA on your boss because the homeless didn't shank him on sight. Just because he survived walking down a dark ally, doesn't automatically mean that he's in cahoots with the criminals that roam it, and even If that is the case, you skipped SEVERAL groups of people you were supposed to inform before going straight to the nuclear option.
Most people assumed it was oversight by the devs, but the second game reinforces the idea that Leandros def fucked up lmao Given he was "promoted" to Chaplain and the Chapter himself states he was livid at the situation tells me that the Devs know their lore and Leandros is a hypocrite who is thankfully paying the price for it. If he wants to cast suspicion and seek corruption, then let him be in a position which trains him for it. Makes sense to me, at least.
That’s the thing I love most about Titus. He really, truly is everything an ultramarine should be. Which is, certainly, being exactly what the emperor intended a space marine to be in the first place. Like the quote at the start said “wear the mantle of hero, inspire where you can. But remember always; we are the angles of death. Not of mercy or salvation” As good as he is at killing, he really does inspire and wear the mantle of hero. Especially compared to he must not be named. He will always suck for what he did to Titus. But…it hopefully will lead to being what they both needed to change and become better servants of the imperium and even the chapter. As Titus even said, he has learned much about how he also failed to be a better leader. Let’s just hope he that must not be named also has learned much in his many decades since he fucked over big poppa T.
I've been watching your content and learning so much about 40k for a couple years now, and I hope this video helps bring some weight to the Space Marine 2 campaign and brings your channel and the game even more success. I've been forcing my friends to listen to me rant about the minor things a person not familiar with 40k wouldn't grasp, and this video encompasses all that in an awesome format. Thank you. The only thing that could make Space Marine 2's campaign and story MORE epic, is understanding these subtle nuances and screaming like an 8 year old when seeing Calgar and WHY he's such a badass. Thanks for this!
I saw an interview with a former Relic employee how Space Marine should have been continuing after the first title. Originaly the plan was for Titus to become a chapter master and the second game should have been about building your own new chapter. But this idea was scrapped it seems now.
There was also talk that Titus was supposed to become a Deathwatch member or a Grey Knight in the second game too, continuing his story and delving further into his resistance to chaos
As someone who was in the military, if there is an issue with your command, you dont go OUTSIDE the chain to ask for help. You go to the next layer of command to request inspection. Leandros going outside of the chapter, never mind just going to another captain, he went to the inquistion! He should have reached out first to a chaplain, or sent the request to a leader above Titus. IF THEY ignored it, THEN going to the inquistion after hearing the answers from within his chapter, MAY and i cant stress enough, MAY be warranted.... What he did, in OUR WORLD, would have ended his carreer. He would never advance in rank, and would have been excluded and ignored by his squad mates because he cannot be trusted to carry out orders. His constant questioning of his superior IN BATTLE, would have risked the lives of his team. NO ONE wants that. If hes busy questioning, hes not busy watching the ACTIVE WAR around him. In 40k, that war is SO MUCH worse than anything we have in our world, and he would likely have been killed the second time he went off like he did by HIS OWN SQUAD. This has been shown on several occasions in the books. SM' s dont play.
@@weir-t7y nope, he became the next chaplain.... so he was REWARDED for his actions, actions proven to be wrong, and harmful to not only his captain, but his division and chapter. only took 100 years and serious luck to "fix" his error in judgement.
@@lazaruswall First of all, and more importantly its been 2 days, since the release for the game, Please restrain from any form of spoilers, although some may have acquired the game on early release, some have not. SPOILERS below... Secondly there are zero mentions on why, or how, was he promoted, so all of that is speculation, IT is the most likely answer how ever, but there is no confirmation ( unless there is a book comic or something else that I might missed ). and Third and last, I COMPLETELY AGREE F Leandros, hope he dies on [ SPOILERS AGAIN ] there next mission.
@@jurgensosa8747 grow up. You’re not some arbiter of who can and can’t speak of the game that’s already been out. The knowledge has been out before the game released as people saw the cut scenes already when they were posted. In addition the video itself dictates that it goes into game spoilers. Just stop weirdo. In response to OP. This is correct, it’s the equivalent of having a serious issue and immediately going to the Inspector General instead of raising concerns by running the issue up your chain of command.
Man, this deep dive into Titus is epic! I love how they really flesh out his character and struggles. It's like we're not just seeing a warrior, but a whole story behind him. Can’t wait to see how his journey unfolds in the new game! 🚀⚔️
this is AMAZING!!!! just played the first space marine game and loved it and now with this amazing video, i feel READY to see more of the story of Titus. This just makes me more excited!!!!
Nice that Luetin is going over the basics for the potential new fans introduced to the setting with Space Marine 2, it seems it's going to be big with way some games are going atm showing the market for them is there but some games making missteps.
i'm really hyped about the implication of the 1k Sons (my favorite legion). Since they first appeared in the trailer i knew they might be involved with Titus's resilience to warp energy. But why tho ? And also, that Sorcerer leading the Tzangors, what a badass look !
Leandros was wrong in contacting an inquisitor as opposed of a Chapter Chaplain. He not only went outside the chain of command but outside the Chapter. That to me makes him more of a traitor than Titus could have been.
Leoandros is the one corrupted by Tzeentch. He doesn't even follow the codex himself. He should have reported Titus to his chapter and not to the inquisition. Leandros' plan was basically: just let the demon ascend and do nothing.
Leandros was 100% correct to report the clear and present risk that Titus's nature and actions represent to the Ultramarines. What he did wrong was contacting the Inquisition, not the Chaplain and Chapter Master in order to manage the matter internally.
I've been playing a lot of Space Marines 2, loving the game, but your lore videos really make me appreciate the game even more. So thank you for making all of these videos so I can better understand the lore of the game I'm playing.
I still think Leandross is a big bag of suck. Perils ofthe warp? Totally valid concern. Tattling to the INQUISITION the first chance he gets? That still seems a bit excessive, especially when the Ultramarines have such a powerful psyker as mentioned in the video that could clear up the situation and keep it in-house. Just my personal opinion. But then again, i usually lean much more towards the Ciaphas Cain school of thought.
Oh nah you're totally right. What's supposed to happen is Leandros reports Titus to the Company Chaplain or Librarian and they do their investigation. The Chaplain's whole entire purpose it to make sure the Company Astartes are all loyal and not tainted by any warp nonsense. The last thing any Space Marine chapter wants is the inquisition being all up in their business. What Leandros did was extremely reckless and dangerous, he could have gotten that whole entire company of space marines killed and the ultramarines as a whole investigated by the inqusition.
IIRC part of the original plans for the Space Marine series before the original developer closed up was for Titus to become the leader of a new Chapter. So now, that would mean he becomes Chapter Master of a new Ultima-Founding Chapter.
Titus has always been among my favorite Space Marines. Sure there are others, but Titus' qualities and traits are very heroic, a worthy son of Roboute Guilliman. And I got to say Leandros has been wrong. I don't know what his fate is, but I like to see him be chastised by either Marneus Calgar or Roboute himself, if he's able to have lived. Or perhaps something has happened to him that made him realize that what Titus did was right but it was too late for him as he perhaps lost his life to some battle.
this is such a great video not only because of the quality as always but this is a really awesome entry point level of lore introduction for all the new people that are going to soon discover 40k from the new game
Thanks for the look back at the first game. It's been an age and a half since I played that. I think SM1 might have been my first exposure into 40k and I certainly didn't have the knowledge of the franchise I do now thanks to you.
Other chapters appear to already be in the games multiplayer, with a Dark Angels focused ‘season’ already listed on the steam page… so Salamanders are in all likelihood there on launch
Just got into the Warhammer franchise through watching your lore videos. Today I just purchased the ultra edition and I have to say I'm so sorry about everything I ever said about this community this is genuinely one of the coolest things I have ever been a part of.
A space marine veteran captain starts to understand what i've grasped in my thirties. Took him a century. You guys are sure those guys have superhuman IQ ?
Build the lore Keep the meaning Post the content. Well made, every time I get a notification you posted a video I know I can grab a couple minis sit back and listen to some great content while painting.
Potential Spoiler After beating the Space Marine 2 game, i watched all of the credits at the end, and I saw the name Luetin as one of the voice actors for the dataslates. Was that you, Loremaster Luetin09?
@@Madaseter blanks can't become space Marines, they just die on augmentation Because Primarchs are made from the Warp and so are their sons And that's not counting all the consequences of being a blank, like being hated by everyone and especially psykers
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Leandros had decades of shared combat experience with titus to honestly question his judgement. I understand being the annoying codex safety representative but when the choices are mission failure or "hold my beer, I got this" he Chose to do what nobody else could. Plus objecting as an adviser with no suggested alternative action most often is wasted effort and time.. time being the most important.
It's cute leandros is still mad for titus unfriending him
Gotta get a new PC for this, i hope its worth it.
Thanks for another lore video! I would love to see a reunion between Leandros and Titus in SM 2.
Is Titus immune because he's a pariah
"Do not question brothers as to how Titus survived exposure to Chaos but rather how Chaos will survive exposure to Titus!"
- Marneus Calgar, probably
It would be dangerous to have both Titus and Malum Caedo upon the same planet at the same time. (For Chaos.)
Azariah Kyras says otherwise
The Emperor protects !
@@Sorain1 The gravity well created by the size of their balls might also collapse into a black hole.
snt he dead now lol
May the giga Chad known as Titus bring the end of all things the Emporor hates, specifically Leandros.
I really want Leandros to be the chaplain you meet. That would be very funny.
All my homies hate Leandros.
@@HowlFromBeyond may you experience a bleak and unending Tartarus for your wanton posting of sacrilegious ideas of humor.
He is .@@HowlFromBeyond
Leandros did no wrong. His report held no lie. His concerns valid.
For me, Leandros’ failure was to ignore the chain of command. A whole company was present, which means the chaplain of the 2nd company was there - so Leandros was right to raise the question but it should have been raised to the chaplain. NOT the inquisition
They probably didn’t look that far into the lore tbh, the new game seems to be taking more into account
I disagree. Titus’s ability to ignore the effects of chaos is definitely more a report to the inquisition. Rather than the Chaplin
I’d say the perceived norm in the imperium at that point is that those who can ignore the effects of chaos, particular a space marine is probably a servant of a chaos
Is reporting the commander youve been combative with to an inquisitor part of the codex astartes? I think not!
@@ccboy259 fairly respectable theory honestly, I mean if you remember the Dark Imperium trilogy in the 2nd novel Guilliman straight up orders a young girl killed who is in fact being possessed by John Warhammer, so I mean to the imperium you’re literally fucked 100% of the time no matter what
Leutin defending Leandros. Truly you are an Ultramarine player.
The thing about 40k is that the best thing to do is normally a bad thing, because it's not the worst thing. "Innocence proves nothing"
🤣 I hate Leandros, but I think he needs a lore lawyer to defend him 😄
I hate him but I love Ultramar
@@MyraTalisenHe still isn't winning. Leandros jumping the chain of command and going straight to the Inquisition is inviolation of The Codex. He is guilty of not keeping this matter internal andtelling aChaplain first.
He was a good blueberry that followed the rules , don't know why ppl hate leandros so much . Other then the guy is clearly following the lore and not just driving forward into a coke using adrenaline Chad bro fest. ppl that can't see and respect the man from what he's saying clearly don't know 40k lore .not saying you gotta like the Smurf but space marines are not John Wayne . A space marine lives a life of service to the emp . I think this was a great video showing how both Marines were doing that in there own way , chaos just chuckles because the changing of ways can come for either one of them so witch one was right?
4:48 Black Templars "Why yes, we DEFINITELY only have 1,000 battle brothers. Yep yep, totally staying within that 1k threshold. No deviation there whatsoever."
Nothing to see here inquisitor, safe for this comically large black sword i am planting on the ground... menacingly
Also the Black Templars: If we so much as get a HINT of your Inquisitors snooping around, we'll be sure to lead the "Ork Snipers" your way.
Space Wolves somewhere: I'm getting the distinct feeling that I agree with something...probably the ale.
"You cannot keep inducting new Astartes past 1000 when not at war!"
"That is why we are always finding new crusades!"
"Not at war? Have you seen the galaxy, Inquisitor? There is only war."
They have nothing on Huron and the Astral Claws in gene seed / battle bro production cheating.
"Titus' final speech to Leandros about failing as a Space Marine because he follows the Codex Astartes too rigidly makes a lot more sense when you find that Roboute Guilliman, the Primarch who wrote the Codex, explicitly stated that he couldn't predict everything and that there needs to be room for personal initiative on the battlefield. Without meaning to, Titus is reinforcing Guilliman's message and Leandros is showing the rigid mentality that his own Primarch condemns."
"Leandros' failure has another meaning, one more literal, as he actually fails to follow the Codex when he reports Titus to the Inquisition. Proper Codex procedure dictates that any suspicion of heresy or anything of the like is to be reported to an Ultramarines Chaplain first and Leandros violates that when he goes outside of his Chapter with this matter."
Leandros is the true heretic brother!
Aside from enforcing the 1000 brother limit per chapter which at the time was a good idea post heresy, Space Book was always meant to be a preferred actions guidebook rather than stringent "law". Robute even amitted back in the day that anyone familiar enough with the books tactics could always counter the Marines so it could potentially be fatally flawed. If Robute ever met Leandros I bet it would be an interesting conversation. Wonder if Leandros would accept it or if Robute would have to beat it into him haha
@@onepiece666 He's an asshole middle manager type, the WORST KIND OF HERETIC!
i believe leandros was jealeous of titus and was himself corrupted and as a chaplin he can corrupt others
@@Demonica2539I honestly think it would break Leandros if his Primarch told him he was following the Space Book wrong. I could see him falling to chaos damn near immediately if he found out what he believes whole heartedly to be his truth has been wrong for centuries.
Titus, one of the longest serving Ultramarines, hero of Graia, true son of Guilliman, you have been gone too long, but I say it truly, I cannot wait to serve with you again.
As if he never left
@@giuliocoppola6774 We can hope.
Rowboat Girlyman has a son?
@@The_ZeroLine Why is it that when I see comments like that, I just remember the evil f@t guy with glasses from Shoot 'Em Up? Lol 😂😂😂
@The_ZeroLine All space marines are biologically the children of Primarchs. The gene seed replaces all of their aspirants human DNA with the primarch's DNA.
A major point that I like that we have with Titus is that he is far stronger than he was in the first game. Not just because he is now a primaries marine, but because he is centuries older with new experienced and skills gained after spending so much time in the Deathwatch.
100%
Do we have a story of how his life was dirrong death watch? like a playable campaign?
@@djert24 No. What bits have been told were apparently in a White Dwarf magazine and (SPOILERS) you only play as a Deathwatch member in the first level of the game.
@djert24 He served as a Black Shield within Deathwatch, essentially a Space Marine who shuns his Chapter and serves penance. He was mortally wounded and recovered by the Ultramarines who performed the Rubican surgery and not only saved his life but transformed him into a Primaris marine.
@@2shae475 Always makes me chuckle in that one mission. "When was the surgery, how long?" "Two days."
53:37 I think you fail to mention that even though Leandros was right about suspecting Titus of corruption, he should have gone to a chaplain of his chapter instead of the inquisition.
Chaplain, why? You mean the librarian? You know the one specialized in all warp things.
@@nopenope8418 Part of what chaplains do is interrogate their fellow marines for warp corruption. Of course the Librarians would be involved too, but so would chaplains.
@@nopenope8418 Probably both, tbh. If the Chaplain cleared him then the Librarius could assess him for latent psychic potential (another possible explanation for his resistance to Warp energies)
It is entirely possible that the librarians and chaplains are not present, are off world, are unavailable, or even KIA. They never say. It is simply implied that Leandros went straight to an Inquisitor with his concerns, who, of course, went overboard with his "due diligence," as most Inquisitors often do. So, yes, I believe Leandros SHOULD have kept his concerns within the chapter &/or company, and probably COULD have. Basically, when he got the Inquisitor involved, it was because he panicked, jumped the gun, skipped the chain of command, and/or even ignored the instructions of the Codex. His concerns were warranted, but his actions in the end went too far.
@@nopenope8418 Both. They both are responsible for looking for signs of deviancy or heresy. But a Chaplain is guaranteed to be with the company whereas a Librarian might not be.
Chaos: we have Greater Demons
Captain Titus: I have Malum Caedo.
I know it would never happen but with just HOW MANY demons he killed and how big a deal lore wise that is, imagine Robute waves his hand and declares Malum a Chapter Master of some new legion he can name and after a few 100 years we have a whole chapter of frothing mad Caedo aspirants lol
@Demonica2539 Malum Caedo, Chapter master of the WarpSlayers. An ultima founding chapter consists of Primaris Space Marine who have shown a high affinity for Chaos bloodshed and slaughter.
Battle Cry: Intense screaming/ Skulls for Ultramar, Blood for the Imperium/ Your gods have adandoned you!
The Grey Knights could do seminars on the weekend for the Warpslayers.
Lameandros being a contrarian wasn't what I hated about him, it was how he acted like a hormonal teenager looking for Daddy's approval and hating him for not listening to him at the same time. For someone in a company command squad such an attitude should have ironed out already, but Leandros seemed like a slow learner. Plus narqing to the Inquisition was a bitch move because the Codex says you should report suspicions of corruption to a Chaplain or Librarian first, so that makes his strict adherence to the rules really hypocritical, not a good look.
what he said, Leandros should be sent on some grueling penitent missions for these slip ups
Yea its the hypocrisy for me after all his complaining about Titus not 100% following the Codex then he goes and does the same thing.
Leandros is just like a nerdy top-class-student at school that point himself being the smartest but lack experience.
So you hate the guy for being an ultramarine , checks out
@@user-bv2by6rd9w Ultramarines aren't whiny, they they know the codex has room for leniency in terms of combat strategy, because it's ten thousand years old. But they follow the rules of the command structure to the letter
Lore master Luetin has returned. The Emperor protects.
Verily, He doth.
And having a loaded bolter never hurt, either.
Our boy stopped an entire Ork WAAAGH!! almost single-handedly before also stopping a Chaos incursion, then got demoted to Lt.
Now he's about to stop an entire Tyranid swarm and ANOTHER Chaos incursion.
Demote that man to Private, he'll bring all the Primarchs back to life, fix the warp storms, save the Imperium, put the Emperor back to sleep before he goes warp-god-super-saiyan, and snake Yvraine while he's at it.
demote him to scout and he turn out to be a lost primarch
Take away his geneseed and he becomes the emperor
And this is on TWO planets now
Hahahaha this one is too good lmao 😂😂😂
Definition of overqualified
What I feel was Leandro's failing, was contacting inquisition directly with his concerns rather than chapter librarian and letting them to judge the situation. His concern was certainly legit, I feel method he went about it perhaps not.
The Codex definitely had a section for reporting concerns to the Chapter first if Learchus and Uriel is any indicator.
Does seem like something that would go against the Codex Astartes.
Not to mention the inherent shame he could bring to a first founding chapter by having a Captain accused of potential heresy is insane; especially for the squeaky clean ultramarines.
@@dustindubbo2892 i bet money that was the idea behind this little plot point, some smurf hater writer went 'imma ruin the smurf whole stichk"
The entire point of the chain of contact regarding possible treachery and heresy is to ensure that they only go to the inquisition with valid, and entirely true, threats. Leandros' accusation led to a radical, possibly heretical, inquisitor being swayed by a simple rank and file Ultramarine (compared to a Captain, Chaplain or Librarian). The simple fact the inquisition didn't try to label the entire chapter excommunicae traitoris is a miracle
What a timing. Thank you Luetin! Titus was my entry into 40k. Has a special place amongst the greatest.
Space marine 2 about to convert me to being an ultramarine fan.
I know, usually I can't stand smurfs lmao
Impossible
The Horus Heresy series already converted me, specifically the Decimation of Ultramar period with the Word Bearer's ultimate betrayal. Those books were *chefs kiss*. Actually made Ultramarines look like the angels of death they actually are instead of just the typical "good guys".
The mat ward erra is over it’s ok the like the blue berries now
is anything about this game specific to um tacticd? could be any chapter
I fondly remember when games like BG1 had nice chunky lore booklets to really give you the feel of the world before you played..... The first half of this vid really gives me the feel of that sort of game-prep lore.... it works perfectly to hype you up to play Titus again.
I know this vid was sponsored by Focus, but kinda wish they would ask Leutin to provide a combined 40k/Titus primer and add it to the download of the game.... if you know 40k then you'd watch because you probably love his vids.... if you were new to the 40k Universe, it would be the perfect into to that world.
Great vid, as always.
Demetrian Titus is Uriel Ventris by another name. Both had a more flexible interpretation of the codex, both had a tattletale sergeant that questioned them, both had to do the penance thing. At least Titus didn't wake up the Nightbringer...
Would love both of them to team up..
Considering people think that the DLC will star necrons, it's best to add a "yet" to the end of that comment hahahaha
As someone who has consumed hundreds of hours in 40k audiobooks and RUclips vídeos, I enjoy Ultramarines and how they are portrayed, they aren’t a complicated faction. Easy to follow and understand
Titus' resistance to the Warp could be a gift from Big E. He always had a penchant for nudging things in a certain direction without making his participation known.
On the other hand, thoughts like that sound like I'm suggesting that not all Warp is bad, which some Inquisitor will definitely dub as heresy.
it is also established in the Gaunt's Ghost books, that people with sufficient will can also resist corruption.
I can’t wait to grind out PvE operations while playing Luetin Lore Videos in the background
Gym club checking in
The human-sized Astartes project continues, 132.5kg overhead press planned today
Are you a real seagull or is it just your profile pic?
Get that shit! For the Emperor!
Pump, brother! Pump not for any false 'gods', but for yourself!
GAINS for the Swole god ! PUMP for the IRON THRONE
Good to know theres a mf that benches enough for two ppl
So I dont have to 🤣🙏🏼💯
Luetin is so lucky I fell asleep (multiple times) before I had to listen to this outrageous heresy about Leandros having a point.
I came to this channel for the Arma Zeus gameplay, but I stayed for the 40k lore. You really are one of the biggest driving forces that got me into the hobby, and I can't thank you enough for the colossal effort it must have been to compile so much lore and knowledge. Thank you Luetin.
@Lurtin09 correct me if I’m wrong, but Leandros was wrong, turning him over to the inquisition for the codex states the his concern should’ve been taken to the chapter Chaplins. For it’s is there duty to maintain the purity of the chapter.
And lucky he didn't 💀
By far the best ad for the game I have observed thus far, and it is not even officially supported. Amazing.
Watch the ones he did for Darktide. I have no interest in video games but it made me consider buying a gaming console and trying it out.
You are the hero a sleepy lore hungry person needs in these grim dark times
I learned to love 40k through falling asleep to these. That’s a compliment since I go back and listen the next day too.
His design in the game is absolutely perfect. Peak manliness
"A SON OF GUILLIMAN KNOWS ONLY WAR" - The most angry Ultramarine
I CONTINUE THE WORK CAPTAIN TITUS STARTED !!! 😬
WHILST I DRAW BREATH I STAND WHILST I STAND I FIGHT WHILST I FIGHT I PREVAIL
*Throws in BOLTGUN Space Marine Hero* There... Take him... he's to angry to die.
He learned a lot from the Black Templars. 😂
MY LOVE OF THE IMPERIUM IS MATCHED ONLY BY MY HATRED OF THE HERETIC!!
Six more days. Let's go brothers. Time to get Titus some justice and purge the Xenos
And that little turd Leandros
RAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH COURAGE AND HONOR BROTHER REQUIEM!
6 more days till what?
@@jcdenton6864 the game releases for certain pre-orders on the 5th
@@jcdenton6864 Space Marine 2 the game TItus stars in.
I have wondered since the first game how Titus was captain of the second company, especially since when the game came out, the table top had Sicarus at the head. I finally get to have that question answered.
I also appreciate a lot of the parallels between titus and uriel ventris.
when @Luetin09 said "black tempalrs only cotain 1000 battle brothers" I lagued so much!
I hope we get to watch Leandros torn apart by a tyranid.
47:44 "Sooo, *Put on a pirate hat*, The code is more of what you would call guidelines than actual rules."
thanks i need to caught up with the titus lore before the relase of the game so tyvm Luetin
This is why I love Space Wolves and Salamanders. The most human of the Space Marines and the ones that give a shit about humanity instead of it just being "what they're made to do."
2 completely different aspects of humanity though. I also have never heard of Space Wolves being nice to regualr people in fact quite the opposite.
@@Hurricayne92 To me,I see them as Space Marines that keep themselves to themselves in their own ways.
Didn't Salamanders burn alien babies alive?
@@Tport712keyword is alien
@@michalkowalski240 humanity is being accepting of other cultures. 40k is clearly not where humanity lies.
A good Friday just got better
what my question is, was leandros justified in calling the *inquisition* instead of calling the second company's chaplain to investigate titus?
Nope. Chaplains and Librarians should have been the ones alerted to Leandros's concerns. Clearly Calgar and chapter command weren't happy about it either considering they demanded Titus back.
@@khinzaw77 that's what i thought, but i wasn't sure
It's like calling the CIA on your boss because the homeless didn't shank him on sight. Just because he survived walking down a dark ally, doesn't automatically mean that he's in cahoots with the criminals that roam it, and even If that is the case, you skipped SEVERAL groups of people you were supposed to inform before going straight to the nuclear option.
Most people assumed it was oversight by the devs, but the second game reinforces the idea that Leandros def fucked up lmao
Given he was "promoted" to Chaplain and the Chapter himself states he was livid at the situation tells me that the Devs know their lore and Leandros is a hypocrite who is thankfully paying the price for it. If he wants to cast suspicion and seek corruption, then let him be in a position which trains him for it. Makes sense to me, at least.
No. In fact, Leandros violated the Codex Astartes which he holds in such high regard by doing that. What he did was inexcusable.
A truer Son of Ultramar there has never been!!
That’s the thing I love most about Titus. He really, truly is everything an ultramarine should be. Which is, certainly, being exactly what the emperor intended a space marine to be in the first place.
Like the quote at the start said “wear the mantle of hero, inspire where you can. But remember always; we are the angles of death. Not of mercy or salvation”
As good as he is at killing, he really does inspire and wear the mantle of hero.
Especially compared to he must not be named. He will always suck for what he did to Titus.
But…it hopefully will lead to being what they both needed to change and become better servants of the imperium and even the chapter. As Titus even said, he has learned much about how he also failed to be a better leader.
Let’s just hope he that must not be named also has learned much in his many decades since he fucked over big poppa T.
I've been watching your content and learning so much about 40k for a couple years now, and I hope this video helps bring some weight to the Space Marine 2 campaign and brings your channel and the game even more success. I've been forcing my friends to listen to me rant about the minor things a person not familiar with 40k wouldn't grasp, and this video encompasses all that in an awesome format. Thank you. The only thing that could make Space Marine 2's campaign and story MORE epic, is understanding these subtle nuances and screaming like an 8 year old when seeing Calgar and WHY he's such a badass. Thanks for this!
I saw an interview with a former Relic employee how Space Marine should have been continuing after the first title. Originaly the plan was for Titus to become a chapter master and the second game should have been about building your own new chapter. But this idea was scrapped it seems now.
There was also talk that Titus was supposed to become a Deathwatch member or a Grey Knight in the second game too, continuing his story and delving further into his resistance to chaos
the hammer+jump pack in SM1 was quite possibly some of the most fun I had in a game.
As someone who was in the military, if there is an issue with your command, you dont go OUTSIDE the chain to ask for help. You go to the next layer of command to request inspection. Leandros going outside of the chapter, never mind just going to another captain, he went to the inquistion! He should have reached out first to a chaplain, or sent the request to a leader above Titus. IF THEY ignored it, THEN going to the inquistion after hearing the answers from within his chapter, MAY and i cant stress enough, MAY be warranted.... What he did, in OUR WORLD, would have ended his carreer. He would never advance in rank, and would have been excluded and ignored by his squad mates because he cannot be trusted to carry out orders. His constant questioning of his superior IN BATTLE, would have risked the lives of his team. NO ONE wants that. If hes busy questioning, hes not busy watching the ACTIVE WAR around him. In 40k, that war is SO MUCH worse than anything we have in our world, and he would likely have been killed the second time he went off like he did by HIS OWN SQUAD. This has been shown on several occasions in the books. SM' s dont play.
That's more or less what happened to him
@@weir-t7y nope, he became the next chaplain.... so he was REWARDED for his actions, actions proven to be wrong, and harmful to not only his captain, but his division and chapter. only took 100 years and serious luck to "fix" his error in judgement.
@@lazaruswall First of all, and more importantly its been 2 days, since the release for the game, Please restrain from any form of spoilers, although some may have acquired the game on early release, some have not.
SPOILERS below...
Secondly there are zero mentions on why, or how, was he promoted, so all of that is speculation, IT is the most likely answer how ever, but there is no confirmation ( unless there is a book comic or something else that I might missed ).
and Third and last, I COMPLETELY AGREE F Leandros, hope he dies on [ SPOILERS AGAIN ] there next mission.
@@jurgensosa8747 grow up. You’re not some arbiter of who can and can’t speak of the game that’s already been out. The knowledge has been out before the game released as people saw the cut scenes already when they were posted. In addition the video itself dictates that it goes into game spoilers. Just stop weirdo.
In response to OP. This is correct, it’s the equivalent of having a serious issue and immediately going to the Inspector General instead of raising concerns by running the issue up your chain of command.
Lizard Leandros
Man, this deep dive into Titus is epic! I love how they really flesh out his character and struggles. It's like we're not just seeing a warrior, but a whole story behind him. Can’t wait to see how his journey unfolds in the new game! 🚀⚔️
Right on time before we of the Deathwatch start cracking skulls looking for this "Leandros" Titus has mentioned.
this is AMAZING!!!! just played the first space marine game and loved it and now with this amazing video, i feel READY to see more of the story of Titus. This just makes me more excited!!!!
Nice that Luetin is going over the basics for the potential new fans introduced to the setting with Space Marine 2, it seems it's going to be big with way some games are going atm showing the market for them is there but some games making missteps.
Luetin, we have talked about this. My sleep schedule is erratic enough. :P
i'm really hyped about the implication of the 1k Sons (my favorite legion). Since they first appeared in the trailer i knew they might be involved with Titus's resilience to warp energy. But why tho ? And also, that Sorcerer leading the Tzangors, what a badass look !
Titus was my first introduction to 40k 😢 the ending on space marine 1 made me feel so betrayed and now on 2 the endijg was shocking af
Leandros was wrong in contacting an inquisitor as opposed of a Chapter Chaplain. He not only went outside the chain of command but outside the Chapter. That to me makes him more of a traitor than Titus could have been.
Leoandros is the one corrupted by Tzeentch. He doesn't even follow the codex himself. He should have reported Titus to his chapter and not to the inquisition.
Leandros' plan was basically: just let the demon ascend and do nothing.
Leandros was 100% correct to report the clear and present risk that Titus's nature and actions represent to the Ultramarines. What he did wrong was contacting the Inquisition, not the Chaplain and Chapter Master in order to manage the matter internally.
I've been playing a lot of Space Marines 2, loving the game, but your lore videos really make me appreciate the game even more. So thank you for making all of these videos so I can better understand the lore of the game I'm playing.
Thanks for putting me to sleep every night luetin, appreciate the good rest I get dreaming of the grim dark future. Keep up the great content
For me it‘s above amazing that the Deathwatch finally get‘s some love
I still think Leandross is a big bag of suck. Perils ofthe warp? Totally valid concern. Tattling to the INQUISITION the first chance he gets? That still seems a bit excessive, especially when the Ultramarines have such a powerful psyker as mentioned in the video that could clear up the situation and keep it in-house. Just my personal opinion. But then again, i usually lean much more towards the Ciaphas Cain school of thought.
Oh nah you're totally right. What's supposed to happen is Leandros reports Titus to the Company Chaplain or Librarian and they do their investigation. The Chaplain's whole entire purpose it to make sure the Company Astartes are all loyal and not tainted by any warp nonsense. The last thing any Space Marine chapter wants is the inquisition being all up in their business.
What Leandros did was extremely reckless and dangerous, he could have gotten that whole entire company of space marines killed and the ultramarines as a whole investigated by the inqusition.
Cringe
@@Rockadela_ , i agree, Leandross is massively cringe.
I hope Titus gets his captaincy back and then t-bag leandros
IIRC part of the original plans for the Space Marine series before the original developer closed up was for Titus to become the leader of a new Chapter. So now, that would mean he becomes Chapter Master of a new Ultima-Founding Chapter.
Getting me ready for next week. LETS GOOOOO!
Space marine 2 is my first exposure to 40k, and i am already a fan of Brother Titus’ Badassery
The emperor provides young brother.
Long have I waited for your return my lord.
connection to the warp could just be the god emperor, who is part of the warp too now
Titus has always been among my favorite Space Marines. Sure there are others, but Titus' qualities and traits are very heroic, a worthy son of Roboute Guilliman.
And I got to say Leandros has been wrong. I don't know what his fate is, but I like to see him be chastised by either Marneus Calgar or Roboute himself, if he's able to have lived. Or perhaps something has happened to him that made him realize that what Titus did was right but it was too late for him as he perhaps lost his life to some battle.
this is such a great video not only because of the quality as always but this is a really awesome entry point level of lore introduction for all the new people that are going to soon discover 40k from the new game
And so it begins!
I like the narrators voice and therefore I am subscribing 👍🏽
Awesome video as always. I'm so hyped for the game!
Thanks for the look back at the first game. It's been an age and a half since I played that. I think SM1 might have been my first exposure into 40k and I certainly didn't have the knowledge of the franchise I do now thanks to you.
I really hope they have expansions with other Chapters. I would love a Salamander expansion
Other chapters appear to already be in the games multiplayer, with a Dark Angels focused ‘season’ already listed on the steam page… so Salamanders are in all likelihood there on launch
Your lore vids have gotten me into 40k. Now I’m listening to audible stories. Caiphas Cain is a great place to start for anyone that is interested.
Oh theres gonna be some pissed off people once they see what leandros is up to now
Top-notch LT. Thanks for the hard work to bring us this. I learned a lot.
Thank you Lore master this is perfect
Fellow Space Marine here. I'm looking forward to it when it's released soon.
Leandros is still a nerd lol just gotta kick the shit outta some chaos then slam some fenrisian mead just as the emperor intended
Just got into the Warhammer franchise through watching your lore videos. Today I just purchased the ultra edition and I have to say I'm so sorry about everything I ever said about this community this is genuinely one of the coolest things I have ever been a part of.
A space marine veteran captain starts to understand what i've grasped in my thirties. Took him a century. You guys are sure those guys have superhuman IQ ?
Yes, but they also have superhuman religious indoctrination literally gene-coded into them.
He and Gabriel Angelos from DOW have become my favourite Space Marine characters
Genuinely fucking stoked for this game
THANK you so much, for covering the lore behind titus.
Since i played space marine 1 hes been my favorite char
Thanks so much!
28:34 thats Actual Concept art of Deathwatch Titus For Space marine 2 😮 to be Clear.
It’s weird going from watching how to use the editor in Arma 3 years ago to now listening to hours and hours worth of 40k lore but it feels right.
What Leandros should have done was refer the matter to the chaplaincy and the librarium, not to an inquisitor.
this is now my first warhammer 40k game ive played, its fire so far, just came here to deepdive in the lore, really exited for it!!!
Sweet! This is gonna be epic!!!
Man this is a good one. I've listened to it 3 times and fell asleep before the intro ended every time!
Is it at all surprising that Leandros was the cause of his previous captain's death?
This video is a perfect compliment to my space marines 2 experience. The Emperor Provides
There is no one more brave then a guardsman/woman with a lasgun and flakarmor facing the enemies of mankind every second of every day.
😂
I am new to war hammer and have been listening to your videos for a week now and I am absolutely hooked. Yout detail and story telling is amazing
I WOULD love it if it was revealed that Titus was a Psyker that just somehow dodged the notice of the Librarius
Build the lore
Keep the meaning
Post the content.
Well made, every time I get a notification you posted a video I know I can grab a couple minis sit back and listen to some great content while painting.
Nice. Just the right thing I needed, while waiting for the 5th 😅
Would love for this game to have an eventual campaign DLC that lets us play as Titus while he was a in the Death Watch
Potential Spoiler
After beating the Space Marine 2 game, i watched all of the credits at the end, and I saw the name Luetin as one of the voice actors for the dataslates. Was that you, Loremaster Luetin09?
yup
@@Luetin09 Amazing! Everything you say for now on will be considered canon; JK.
13 years on,And i will honour the Emperors duty again! Captain Titus is back!
I got my shaft tatted in the same style of the ultra marines in excitement this video game
blue balls
@@MarshallWalls-hq9fk balling out for the emperor
I hadn’t heard the backstory of the red helmets before. That’s the best thing with your excellent research, there’s always new lore to learn ❤
Titus is clearly some level of Psyker, but unlike those who turn to the Warp, he turns to the Emperor.
i allways said to me when titus is returning, he would be a librarian
So like the Sororitas
I think more likely he's a blank
@@Madaseter blanks can't become space Marines, they just die on augmentation
Because Primarchs are made from the Warp and so are their sons
And that's not counting all the consequences of being a blank, like being hated by everyone and especially psykers
More likely part blank (like the sisters of silence)