Why Tesla just increased the price of the Model 3 Performance and will again
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Why Tesla just increased the price of the Model 3 Performance and will again
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Ordered mine on Friday, saved myself $1,000. I figured this would happen as the value is incredible. Still would've paid $1000 more for it. I have a June estimated delivery date...Here in Southern California.
I ordered a Perl white one I can’t whait… :)
Did you go over 55k?
Did you learn how to spell?
@@larryc1616 Yes
$1k extra isn't a deal breaker if you want one
Exactly, I still would've paid the extra money for it. $1000 more, I would have just take the stealth grey instead of the blue...
Really sucks though. I had my finger on the button a few days ago and held off.
Better get on it now before another increase I reckon
They increased the price in the USA but dropped the price of the optional paint color and white interior. They really want to keep it qualified for the federal credit
Should just price it at $54,999 imo pick any color or interior and be done with it!
Make it so the more expensive colors and interior has a longer wait list. 😀👍🏻
Just black went from $1500 to $1000, the other colors are the same. Yeah white interior went from $1500 to $1000 but you still can't get the white interior AND a color, and the tax credit.
Love it. The guys drooling over the new M3P waiting for a price cut thinking prices are going to drop more got screwed.
All this pricing information is only available in the USA. As of 30/4/24 Tesla UK Prices fro Model 3 is £39,990 RWD, £49,990 Long Range and £59,990 for Performance. No EV discounts in the UK, so price is what you pay.
I’ll take mine in Ultra Red with White interior
That combo doesn't qualify for credit
@@RJ-cv2uw
I’ll wait then
@@RJ-cv2uw it does if leased! 👍🏻
@@4literv6 Nobody wants to rent it
They need to prioritize getting the other Model 3 eligible for the tax credit.
That's tough with the rules getting even stricter AGAIN on Jan 1st 2025. And who knows if a rebup gets in what happens to ira&ev credits?
If the car had a proper instrument panel and regular cruise control ( I'm not into "autocrap") , I would consider buying one.
I wanted to buy one, at the moment i have one. I will not do it in Europe. LG-batteries - not for me. i am waiting until the deliver it with other batteries. CATL or Panasonic also in Europe.
Price-Cut was Fantastic Strategy after Tesla changed Production Line!
NO-MORE-FREE-FSD-HW FOR REAL DRIVING VIDEO DATA!
From Tesla IR VEHICLE CAPACITY:
* 'Changed the production line to updated model'
Changed to (EV Basic + FSD HW) Line Plus (EV Basic - FSD HW + Basic HW) Line!
* 'COGs per unit improved to an all-time low'
IME, FSD HW = $5K, Basic HW = $1K!
Here Is Why:
FSD-Take-Rate 12%, Rev. $43.5K, COGs $36.5K, FSD HW $5K, Basic HW $1K per EV:
* OLD ($43,500/EV; $12,000/FSD)
Avg. Rev./EV = $44,940 = 0.12 X (43,500 + 12,000) + 0.88 X 43,500
Avg. COGs/EV = $36,500 = 0.12 X 36,500 + 0.88 X 36,500
Avg. Net/EV incl. FSD SW= $8,440 and Avg. MG = 23.12%
* New ($41,500/EV; $8,000/FSD)
Avg. Rev./EV = $42,460 = 0.12 X (41,500 + 8,000) + 0.88 X 41,500
Avg. COGs/EV = $32,980 = 0.12 X 36,500 + 0.88 X (36,500 - FSD HW + Basic HW)
Avg. Net/EV incl. FSD SW = $9,480 and Avg. MG = 28.74%
Model 2 N/A FSD => ~$20K!
Model 3-ECON => Tesla Called, 'More Affordable Models'!
Model 3-FSD = Ready for Robotaxi!
Model Y-ECON => Tesla Called, 'More Affordable Models'!
Model Y-FSD = Ready for Robotaxi!
Model S-ECON => Tesla Called, 'More Affordable Models'!
Model S-FSD = Ready for Robotaxi!
Model X-ECON => Tesla Called, 'More Affordable Models'!
Model X-FSD = Ready for Robotaxi!
IMO, Cybertruck will be deliver FIRST to who subscribe FSD!
ALL-IN-ONE-PRODUCT of AI, Robotics, and Portable Energy is Tesla AGI-Optimus!
yeah, if I lived in Europe I would be unhappy about the battery issue. Tesla really needs to figure this out.
@@dangrass you are right. geat car - but with other batteries. 528km WLTP is a choke for a new model. i am disappointed. Battery is the key part. That happens, wenn US incentives mean local production - so they have not enough panasonic and CATL can not deliver the new stuff as much as needed IMO. and LG is sleeping...
They probably have a lot of demand for it, delivery estimate is up to June. I'll be keeping my 2022 model 3 performance for now, maybe one more year, then get a new one.
How much do you want to sell your M3P?
@@larryc1616$1,000,000.
When Tesla releases the new economical versions of the model 3 and model y (around $20k-$25k) they are going to have a heck of a time trying to keep the prices down because the demand is going to be absolutely insane.
Did they fix the ad-hoc braking cause the camera's aren't as good as the missing radar?
The camera has been improved a long time ago, and the last autopilot version (12.3.5) has no braking issues)
@@luisjuanico6592I definitely have ongoing phantom breaking issues.
Price will likely increase further, then eventually decrease as well.
Tesla priced this car too low. I predict that the price will increase further as the backlog grows. I fully expected it to be priced at about $62k. I have to wonder if Tesla isn't planning to start using these batteries in the long range model 3. All this shows that with the IRA in effect, Tesla needs to have more North American battery production capacity.
I have to wonder who in their right mind would buy a Taycan or BMW M2/3 after this.
The only strangeness is that the Chinese version makes less power than the US version, presumably because the batteries can't deliver enough juice.
Very happy that I ordered one at the lower price...and that I live in North America.
China version is 7k cheaper though right? Maybe there will be the rumored software boost and those cars will pay up to match the U.S. cars?
I'm fine with that as an American and tesla being an American based first ev manufacturer and the current world pure ev sales leader. 👍🏻😎
Still a great value ⚡⚡🤑
Do you think $80,900 before on roads in Australia is too cheap?
I’m ready to order, just want to know qtr mile and peak torque for Australian version. Can’t find this anywhere so far. Anyone have any info?
Anything that you say about the model 3 the only thing you haven't mention the range and when you take about BYD I would to the range of the cars as well and are they going to use the M3P battery as well
Elon Musk's leadership continues to puzzle many. By slashing prices to spike sales, then hiking them back up, he's set a predictable pattern. Consumers are catching on and likely will just wait for the next sale. In today's economy, these tactics hardly make sense.
All car makers do the same thing, people just don't notice it, you can have two people go to the same dealership and buy exactly the same car with a price difference of $5k. It is funny to me when they make such a big deal of Tesla price management. The only difference to other companies is you don't have to haggle for the price for hours if you want a good deal. It is not like Tesla is changing the prices by thousands and thousands of dollars.
@@andresd6193 They don't notice that is why they can get away with it. With Tesla they notice so it is stupid strategy. Musk in this instance shows that he doesnt understand normal people behaviour. People arent machines that input prices and calculate result. They dont like change, they like to feel they overpaid much more than when they feel they didnt pay same amount etc.
I rather enjoy the whole Tesla experience, including the pricing changes. As for consumers catching on, well, this is a little like the stock market. Those who claim to foresee the future usually can't.
It's the Amazon algorithm
They hardly make sense to us. But he's Elon. Not us.
The reviews that recently out about this Performance Model are RAVE REVIEWS. Doesn't surprise me Tesla raised the price.
This car is so good at almost any price.
Extra 1k is not that much . I don't see how the Long Range isn't included in the Rebate as it's battery's are the same.
3 second o to 60 for under 50k never before!
LR is not included due to the manufacturing location of the batteries. The performance Panasonic batteries are made in the US which makes it eligible for the tax credit.
It's a cracking car for the price
Ordered before cost increase. I may flip it on cars and bids for +10k.
will be interesting to see how much higher the price goes.
If you can flip it for 10k more, then just order another one
@larryc1616 I'd prob use the gains on a used S plaid but yea.
New M3P or used MS? What do you think?
If you need to play video games on steam then you need the S otherwise M3P is best performance for cash you can get.
Used if you can wait. Always. May even be able to pick one up with FSD for a fraction of its cost
really different use cases, I think
Model 3 Performance of course
New M3P
Always buy used. They depreciate fast.
Very unlikely that they would raise it again because the tax incentive. The car can’t be more than 55,000 for people to get the 7,500
Its 69980.00 in the UK
60k not 70k
Still too cheap especially with the 7500 tax credit .
Can only hit $55,000 pre any taxes fees etc to qualify as a sedan vs model Y or X as suvs get 80k price ceiling for the credit.
Trying to make up for the free fall in sales!!
yeah, what a bummer to be capacity constrained for Cybertrucks and Model 3s. How many other car manufacturers would love to have this problem?
@@dangrass Exactly, and even with lower sales (in the short term) and still making a profit vs every other company losing money...
Not sure tesla will sell many here in the uk 🇬🇧 prices are much more here than anywhere else 🤬and there’s no incentives
All they did is cannibalise their own sales or other models.
That’s only because of the tax credit not applying to the other two model 3s! The batteries for those two are made in China and do not qualify for the credit. Tesla had to get those batteries from somewhere or excessively delay the launch of the refresh! Don’t see how they could have completely avoided that problem.
why are those cars so exp in europe? 30% over everwere else??? like why. cant i better inport one?
What? In no Kind it is different better than the LR Highland! No way I would pay for 0.1 sec faster car more. With this car I even can not use my old Performance wheels any more because the bigger rear axle🤦🏻♂️
It's 1.3 seconds faster to 60mph than the long range
0 to 60 times does not tell the whole story. Also need to look at 0 to 100 and quarter mile times. What about the new suspension setup?
For one to only look at 0 to 60 times is to be extremely narrow minded.
I'm in the UK if it was a freemont car I'd go for it but here they are Chinese I remember c19 so china can go spin.
I love fast cars....and fast w.. he stopped himself.
Elon Musk's fuzzy logic...
Confessed Performance Junkie as well Sam , let’s do coffee ! 🤓
Another reason I would not throw any money at a Tesla. Rental car companies kicked them out of their portfolio already.
How does an unemployed person , whom is on benefits , get a job and needs a car to travel to work, get a £45k EV? That is the future argument. How will this work in ten years? Please answer, to solve t6his problem. Should EV cars be given free to people who need jobs? I want to know. I gave up eriving 12 years ago. I only work when I can get trains, busses to work. What about everyone else?
Price-Cut was Fantastic Strategy after Tesla changed Production Line!
NO-MORE-FREE-FSD-HW FOR REAL DRIVING VIDEO DATA!
From Tesla IR VEHICLE CAPACITY:
* 'Changed the production line to updated model'
Changed to (EV Basic + FSD HW) Line Plus (EV Basic - FSD HW + Basic HW) Line!
* 'COGs per unit improved to an all-time low'
IME, FSD HW = $5K, Basic HW = $1K!
Here Is Why:
FSD-Take-Rate 12%, Rev. $43.5K, COGs $36.5K, FSD HW $5K, Basic HW $1K per EV:
* OLD ($43,500/EV; $12,000/FSD)
Avg. Rev./EV = $44,940 = 0.12 X (43,500 + 12,000) + 0.88 X 43,500
Avg. COGs/EV = $36,500 = 0.12 X 36,500 + 0.88 X 36,500
Avg. Net/EV incl. FSD SW= $8,440 and Avg. MG = 23.12%
* New ($41,500/EV; $8,000/FSD)
Avg. Rev./EV = $42,460 = 0.12 X (41,500 + 8,000) + 0.88 X 41,500
Avg. COGs/EV = $32,980 = 0.12 X 36,500 + 0.88 X (36,500 - FSD HW + Basic HW)
Avg. Net/EV incl. FSD SW = $9,480 and Avg. MG = 28.74%
Model 2 N/A FSD => ~$20K!
Model 3-ECON => Tesla Called, 'More Affordable Models'!
Model 3-FSD = Ready for Robotaxi!
Model Y-ECON => Tesla Called, 'More Affordable Models'!
Model Y-FSD = Ready for Robotaxi!
Model S-ECON => Tesla Called, 'More Affordable Models'!
Model S-FSD = Ready for Robotaxi!
Model X-ECON => Tesla Called, 'More Affordable Models'!
Model X-FSD = Ready for Robotaxi!
IMO, Cybertruck will be deliver FIRST to who subscribe FSD!
ALL-IN-ONE-PRODUCT of AI, Robotics, and Portable Energy is Tesla AGI-Optimus!
Buy a used car like every other kid.
or a $45k IC vehicle. In the US the average cost of a vehicle is just a tad under $50k, so most EVs are actually on the cheap side. I think the answer to your question is autonomous robo-taxis.
Plenty of E-bikes now that go 60-100miles for $1500. Plenty of dashers use E-bikes in dense cities like Hollywood and NYC
Idk about your country but here in America everyone just takes out loans and debt even when they can't actually afford things and the banks/companies love that cause they make tons of money on the interest. That goes for car/house loans, credit card debt, etc. If you were to ask people purchasing these things if they are able to buy in cash, I'm pretty sure majority wouldn't even be close to having what the things are worth since they just look at what they can pay per month over many years.
Pumped in sound is not earned.
Price-Cut was Fantastic Strategy after Tesla changed Production Line!
NO-MORE-FREE-FSD-HW FOR REAL DRIVING VIDEO DATA!
From Tesla IR VEHICLE CAPACITY:
* 'Changed the production line to updated model'
Changed to (EV Basic + FSD HW) Line Plus (EV Basic - FSD HW + Basic HW) Line!
* 'COGs per unit improved to an all-time low'
IME, FSD HW = $5K, Basic HW = $1K!
Here Is Why:
FSD-Take-Rate 12%, Rev. $43.5K, COGs $36.5K, FSD HW $5K, Basic HW $1K per EV:
* OLD ($43,500/EV; $12,000/FSD)
Avg. Rev./EV = $44,940 = 0.12 X (43,500 + 12,000) + 0.88 X 43,500
Avg. COGs/EV = $36,500 = 0.12 X 36,500 + 0.88 X 36,500
Avg. Net/EV incl. FSD SW= $8,440 and Avg. MG = 23.12%
* New ($41,500/EV; $8,000/FSD)
Avg. Rev./EV = $42,460 = 0.12 X (41,500 + 8,000) + 0.88 X 41,500
Avg. COGs/EV = $32,980 = 0.12 X 36,500 + 0.88 X (36,500 - FSD HW + Basic HW)
Avg. Net/EV incl. FSD SW = $9,480 and Avg. MG = 28.74%
Model 2 N/A FSD => ~$20K!
Model 3-ECON => Tesla Called, 'More Affordable Models'!
Model 3-FSD = Ready for Robotaxi!
Model Y-ECON => Tesla Called, 'More Affordable Models'!
Model Y-FSD = Ready for Robotaxi!
Model S-ECON => Tesla Called, 'More Affordable Models'!
Model S-FSD = Ready for Robotaxi!
Model X-ECON => Tesla Called, 'More Affordable Models'!
Model X-FSD = Ready for Robotaxi!
IMO, Cybertruck will be deliver FIRST to who subscribe FSD!
ALL-IN-ONE-PRODUCT of AI, Robotics, and Portable Energy is Tesla AGI-Optimus!
Tesla should make the European/Asian/ Canadian M3P cheaper for being slower and having an outdated battery.
Afternoon mate
Rises and then in a few months 7000 euros
It’s an impressive vehicle but it will not have huge demand. It’s a niche vehicle. Since the performance and standard basically look the same it’s not going to impress friends and family 😢
Uh different bumpers f&r, different trim specific larger wheels, different larger red caliper brakes, different seats&interior trim say otherwise!
I feel sorry for you EVangelists…😂
It is so dumb that Tesla put the ultra-red out of getting the $7500 tax break. So now it is costing $9500 more for red over grey. I really think they should rethink that one.
That’s only because the govt. forgot about the insane inflation rate and forgot to raise the cutoff price to $65k! :)
I ordered mine day one, ultra red but black interior because of the price cap. Side note, white interior is now only 1k instead of $1,500. Red on this should be ultra-rare, at least until the next price change.
@@jhrner I did as well - in blue, but the price cap kept me from adding the white interior! Damn! Now they do it! Could have had it all! ;)
@@RandyP-jr1ek contact tesla, a couple others on tmc said it worked getting it switched over!
@@RandyP-jr1ek Now blue and white is $55,900. Previously $55, 490. Still stuck with grey and white or an optional color and black interior.
Tesla is a sinking ship....
Tesla is a rocket-ship.
Short seller? Good luck with that. 😂
I went out to the local showroom yesterday to take a look at the new M3 Performance......the place was absolutely swarmed with customers. They are supply-constrained on Cybertrucks and Model 3s.....if Tesla is sinking, then what about Toyota and BMW? Or GM, Ford, Stellantis.....
Rocket ship?
Disagree it won’t have a huge demand “for long”. It doesn’t go far enough and battery on the performance still doesn’t hit 300. A new battery you’ve spoken about from China is coming out that will make this thing obsolete and it will happen at the same time the model y juniper comes out and IT will have that new battery. Mark my words. Tesla is starting to fall behind on how far they go compared to Chinese vehicles and competition will force them to use the new battery
Elon Musk went back to China to do what?
probably going to visit the beijing auto show