The BIGGEST FURRY DRAMA of the Year
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Today we're talking about the yearly MFF Room Lottery Drama! The MFF Con Staff work very hard to make the biggest convention ever happen every year, and sometimes we might not get everything we want out of the convention, like a main hotel room for example. In this video I discuss some of the concerns brought up every year about MFF being as big as it is, while also looking through some of the memes that furries put together about the convention!
Editor's Note: Please do not take out your anger on the MFF convention staff, it is okay to be frustrated and upset that you didn't get a room in the lottery system. When the convention asks for feedback, that's the best way you can voice your concerns and worries, but do not lash out at the twitter account or any of the convention on staff there. They want to make things work for everyone.
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Editor's Note: I realize I may have forgotten to include some of the concerns with dealers not getting a room at MFF through the lottery. It is still a valid concern and I believe the convention is still doing everything they can to accommodate everyone properly and fairly. I want it to also be known that it is OKAY to be upset and frustrated with the results of the lottery and in turn not getting the room or accommodations you were looking for this convention. However, it is still NOT OKAY to be lashing out at the MFF twitter account or any convention staff as a result. When the convention asks for feedback, that's the best way you can voice your concerns and worries, but do not lash out at the twitter account or any of the convention on staff there. They want to make things work for everyone. I will be doing a followup video discussing these points at a later date, but I wanted to put this here for the time being!
TLDR: It is okay to be frustrated and upset. MFF is still doing the best they can with what they're given. It is NOT OKAY to harass and lash out at the con staff trying. Give them time to fix the problem.
So I hope becoming a *volunteer* for MFF does not require an interview, and I remember you said you want to talk about non -furry stuff, there's another fandom for what's called the Backrooms!
Having worked retail for 8 years, hearing people say "I'm never coming here again!" is funny shit.
I know, like, do you really think I care. If anything I’m glad you’re gone.
Been in it much longer, and completely agree. Was refreshing to hear someone once go “I’d quit coming here, but I get my groceries and other things here too.”
Either way, either they’re lying and will be back, or you’ll thankfully never have to deem them again. Quite great~
Pettiness and Envy has been rampant in this fandom and it’s only getting *worse.* I’ve had people start stuff with me or my friends because I won’t prioritize getting art with them. And I don’t even have 500 subs on YT and just 1,100 followers on Twitter. I’m a *nobody* and I’m already talking to less and less people just to minimize points of needless drama. I can’t even IMAGINE what you deal with, Beta.
"People try to find a valid reason to not like something" This is way too true and it hurts
This explains quite a few things. I hadnt heard about the room lottery before as my focus is generally on smaller conventions, but some time ago, I had some guy randomly start demanding I let them sleep in my room at mff. I didnt even have a room there and told him so. This seemed to confuse and annoy him.
Did you tell them that they're insane for thinking that?
@@gucciguy3408 There wouldnt be any point. He would still insist he's right. telling him no about anything means youre hiding something.
oh damn, I've had the same! The fact I have a local UK accent, clearly with my partner, carrying a motorcycle helmet (just a day trip for us, I rode in & she bussed it), we had single day badges - this one guy from scotland was super on my back about room sharing. Like dude, if it wasn't clear enough I'm a local (and thus not needing a room), just, No.
I'm not letting a stranger crash with me, Mrs there or not - literally took best part of half an hour of him following us around hounding us because he straight up couldn't believe we didn't have a room despite all the signs, our local group discussing things going on in the city when he wandered up...
@@nekospaw The worst part is, not only did I not have a room there, It wasnt even at the con, nor did I ever imply that I was planning to go there or even mention the con in the conversation. We were discussing the very important (and british) subject of which style of phone boxes are the best. (red, classic)
@@bookvee What about (blue, time-traveling)?
Honestly MFF is probably one of those cons that I wouldn't go to as my first con anyway? I have a lot of anxiety about being out in public in general, let alone surrounded by people- In a tight space. SO me personally, definitely looking for a smaller convention, or a furmeet kind of situation as my first experience.
Also to add onto what Beta said, "you don't have to go" remember going to conventions like MFF is a LUXERY. JUST like owning a fursuit. If you don't make it, or can't go- Yea it sucks, but when push comes to shove it shouldn't ruin your whole year, because there's so many other ways to engage with this community.
Not to mention that there's, like you said, bound to be fur meets!! Yeah it it can be sad to not be able to go to something you've been looking forward to, but it's still silly to throw this much of a fit about it.
I’ve never been to mff, but I HAVE been to Anime Midwest and it’s super crowded! I’ve been to a variety of conventions and the ones I have the most fun at are mid size semi local situations, it seems
I get enough interaction with the community on vrc. Idk if i want to deal with them irl 😂 this is coming from a furry lmao
@@lilfirepandakins I appreciate your reply! Sorry if my comment was unclear, my "it's a luxury, so don't fret" stance was more geared towards the people that throw basically an internet riot over it, or blame/harass others who CAN go, things to that level of response! I definitely agree some luxuries (including cons) CAN and ARE big important things to people! S h i t as someone who doesn't have that kind of money/money to waste, I'd be pretty bummed and potentially turned off to scheduling one again if things went wrong. So I totally agree with your point! Also, hope my comment didn't come off harshly LOL. I realize there was no ♡ in which I usually add to indicate my kind of tone :>
Tyvm for your in depth reply! And I hope you do get to see your friends again soon ♡ as someone who primarily has close online friends, it's hard not to be able to physically see/interact with them :">
Why can't they just make a tournament for a room?? Last one standing gets a room.
I've never been to a furry con but I do agree
same, at least we know what to do if something like this happens, yk?
Same even though I’m not a furry
@@patrickmcneil5089 well, to any con. Every fandom has their down sides, you know?
I've never been to one and I want to go but I can't BC I have no money and Im in canada
Yea I never been to a furry con ever
I personally honestly think that doing a lottery for rooms is a bad thing to do. It causes this sort of thing to happen and also makes it more difficult for people to actually join a con. Instead, they should have invested more in other places to buy tickets at (to spread the available sites to buy them from and thus reduce the traffic to the main site, for example). Or maybe just expand to include more rooms with other hotels nearby.
And definitely make sure that dealers; performers & staff all have a main hotel room. Those people should NOT be needing to do a raffle to get a room. That is just insane!
I wish MFF would choose a more central hotel or used the detached event space across the street cause it's closer to the other hotels in this area. They could also take a sister hotel and expand, I think they're too big for their britches. DragonCon is now in like 4 hotels and you don't get FOMO if you're not at the main one so much cause it still feels like a con atmosphere in your own lobby.
MFF does use the convention center, and has for a few years now. Artists and Dealers are over there, along with some panels.
@@mariobroslakecounty had no idea, I went a while ago.
DragonCon uses far more than just four hotels. That's just the panel spaces. Every single hotel in that district participates in specifically providing rooms for attendees and they also get two of the three buildings of the AmericasMart complex in their entirety.
As con volunteer for a few years, seeing people being entitled and shitty is so disheartening and making us feel like quitting. thank you for standing up for us! We are using our free time to make these events happen and it is alot of work. every con is super low on staff following covid as well :(
million dollar idea:
buy a cheap wheelbarrow, fit it with some electric drive, and ferry people to the convention grounds from the hotels away
Do you mean a bus? Because they do have those
@@curlybrace314 but they gotta go outside and get a bus pass. either way i dont get this. everytime im at an anime or comic con people are more than willing to go from across town in full cosplay cuz its cheaper than getting a hotel connected to the sky bridge.
When it comes to walking i have what i call the wanderer perk. Basically i can walk a long ass time without tiring. Like i had to have walked 10+ miles on Halloween with my friends trick or treating its insane. Although if cargo is added depends on weight it can cut the distance down quite a bit. Also i have stupidly long legs so that also probably helps
Probably also have +12 points in Endurance
Well the problem is that most furries like most people don't get enough exercise and are probably more than out of shape based on hearing that walking so little of a distance is tiring.
My legs hurt before I'm tired.
Going to start using this
It's Chicago.
This is how Mafia works.
(Source. I live here.)
Props to the maturity here Beta. Hope it spreads through the MFF attendees like the PathOwOgen.
For real, if you're THAT desperate for a room don't offer to bottom. Offer to *top*! You'll have people competing over you!
6:22 “Will bottom for…” LMAO WHAT
Also eventually they will probably also have a lottery system for who can attend the convention because of the attendance getting so high to the point that it exceeds the capacity of the convention centre itself!
Totally understandable. They keep adding more lotteries, we might as well call it Midwest Lottery Fest XD
My hotel plans are stressful as heck. Closest hotel me and my friends could get is 1.3 miles from the con.
I later found someone in main hotel looking for a roommate and I paid for myself but I haven't told my friends yet. I'll probably wind up paying for both spots because I don't want anyone to end up paying more because of me.
Next year I'll probably be in the main hotel or bust category because I don't need this stress in my life.
as someone who JUST got their fursuit never went to a con and wet public suiting once -- i completely agree
As someone who has been told repeatedly that I’m a closeted furry -- I don’t have an opinion
I’ve never heard of this channel or this drama, but this has now become the most important thing in my life, and I am here for it, and I haven’t even watch the video yet.
I strongly encourage people to pick every possible hotel when entering the room block lottery! There are shuttles which go to the more distant con room block hotels, and they seem to have turned down the heat in the long walkway these past few years. Heck, there are hotels connected to the convention center or the heated walkway which aren't part of the con room block. Nany people get rooms in those instead! MFF is absolutely worth attending, even if you weren't in the main hotel. And given how busy those elevators in the main Hotel can get, a satellite hotel might work out more conveniently for you.
First video I've been able to catch in a while, fun video to come back to! It's also something I'm glad to see discussed because the day this stuff was trending I was so confused on what the heck was going on other than seeing tweets like "MFF bad because no room". Will keep this stuff noted for MFF when me and my group are going in 2023!
Yep plan ahead unlike the people complaining and all should be good.
Especially since it is a bigger con it is insane to complain about not getting a room at the main hotel.
Hotel doesn't have infinite space? Well I am upset! UPSET I SAID!!! Harrumph! I will cut in the shape of a boy over this!
The only positive of living in Chicago,the convention center is 30 minutes away from my house
I also believe MFF is now possibly the world’s largest furry convention in terms of attendance numbers! Also people could just stay in hotels all across the city and just take the train to get to and from the convention centre! :)
And it could let them explore a bit of the great city of Chicago and its surroundings
@@zenith9395
Yup! It would also possibly be faster to take the L metro to get to the convention centre from a hotel that’s 5-10 miles away than walking for half an hour through the hot bridges! :)
So MFF has been the largest furcon in the world for years now... And technically it's in Rosemont, not Chicago xD.
As for traveling to get to a furcon, exploring a city... It's... Not as magical as it sounds. Having been to MFF for a decade now, there isn't much in the surrounding area that is touristy friendly.
Also... Other hotels are charging outrageous prices now for rooms vs the con rate. It isn't as simple as "just book elsewhere"
As for people crying and complaining... The solution is simple: go to another con xD
That's what my buddies n I are doing - we've all had the pleasure of doing MFF a dozen times... Time to explore the other cons.
@@Lavthefox I know, I'm a Chicago resident myself and I know the suburbs very well. As for surrounding suburbs with things to do, I'd recommend Schaumburg with Woodfield mall, or just downtown Chicago. There's a ton to do and see in downtown.
Id Rather See People Go "Aw dang didnt get a main room... Anyways see yall at MFF!" That Is A Lot Better
So this is going to be my first MFF , and my roommate was lucky enough to get main hotel. He kinda explained a bit of the process. it essentially is a first come first serve basis in a way. It boils down to what size room and how many people stay in the room. theres some process that checks all that info, it also depends on how many back ups you listed when applying. We chose two separate hotels outside the main one when the lottery started. Basically if you dont get a room in the main, save reservations for other hotels ahead of time and check on backups in the lottery itself. Even if you dont get main hotel , you still get a room, which is something many people dont plan properly for a head of time. theres a method to the madness, just requires alot of planning.
Actully, that's maybe the lightest dramma that i ever seen in this community. I should spend less time on the internet
I personally prefer the idea of a lottery system, giving it's a more fairer way to ensure everyone has an equal chance. Whilst it can be disappointing not getting a hotel onsite and sometimes may need to look around which can be expensive, there is no need to vent that anger on convention staff.
After all, as Beta mentioned, convention staff are based on volunteers, people taking time out of there day to help organize a large event which keep in mind can take months. There is a lot of behind the scenes work that goes on which makes it more difficult to whether it be unforeseen circumstances, mistakes etc.
After all, just remember, there is always next year and other furry conventions and local meets to attend too. If you been to a convention multiple times, let others have the chance to experience it rather throw a temper tantrum.
I always believed in that the fandom is meant to stand for being open and diverse, not the opposite of that. So rather shouting out into the abyss, take a step back, breath. Just take the precautions to make plans for alternative accommodations and understand that not everything will go right as big events can be expected to make mistakes and have the odd oversight. as there is more to it.
FINALLY SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS!!!!
Instead of a tent how about a hammock, forcing everyone to duck under you to pass through the sky bridge.
Maaaan, I am with you. I'm tired of seeing those kinds of posts and all the disrespect towards the staff. This year will be my 6th MFF, and I have NEVER gotten the main hotel (not with lack of trying, mind you), but I still went and enjoyed it quite a lot. This year I went into the lottery, and lo and behold, me and my group actually got a room in the main hotel! That right there debunks any of this stupid "Only catering to popular furs" because I am NOT. But you were right about being prepared as well, I made sure to have a room at the Doubletree (cause that's where we usually go) LONG before the lottery even opened. Like, not getting the main hotel isn't an automatic dealbreaker for the con. I've had to walk the skywalk of hell many many times, and while I may not have to this year, I seriously doubt I'll ever get the main hotel again. So the way I see it is, enjoy it if you get it, but if you don't, you can still massively enjoy yourself. Great video man.
i decided to not get the main hotel, this is my first year ever so idk if that was a horrible choice... but the reason i didnt try for the main one is because i didnt wanna bother waiting for a really crampy elevator. maybe after this year when i see where everything is placed and stuff, ill change my way of thinking for next year
My last furry event was Confurence, like 8 I think. I came out of it married and a budding father with two jilted exes. So, basically, a standard furrycon.
Point being, no. nope, never, this is one dragon that wild horses, puppy girls or even protgen could NEVER pull me back in. ;) But have fun y'all.
I did laugh my tail off at the 'will bottom for a room' bit. So, tongue firmly in cheek; Will Dominate for tickets, a room, transportation, food and some spending money. Maybe Daddy-Dom can come out 'married' again. *dies. No.
It finally happened. I got the obligatory FurryMate Ad right before watching this
OMG SAME
SAME!
Honestly, love how you described the drama and your humor about it but also portraying a simple yet non-aggressive message. Its really refreshing to see especially when it comes to furry Drama in general, really want to go to Midwest soon so some of the tips you added was helpful too! Immediate follow! Happy Recommendations brought me here!
I've worked a few anime conventions and it really is absolute madness even with an established con. Grassroots cons usually end every year with a meeting about whether or not they'll have to cancel next year due to money, chaos, or both.
Scrounging for rooms?
>Me who is usually on Expedia two or three months or more ahead of time for a con getting my room together.
"Room lottery? What's that?"
1:23 Chicago is the easiest big city to travel to in the united states because it not only has the largest airport, that airport is a hub airport for multiple airlines, so pretty much all airposrt in the us connect to Chicago O'hare airport in one flight.
The intro with the screaming bro my phone was at full volume 😭 it’s 3 am
I’m surprised that you didn’t mention the group of z00philes who somehow snagged a room this year
Probably cause he doesn't want to give them attention?
@@fintherebel5000 I mean… you can’t just name your video “the BIGGEST FURRY DRAMA of the year” make it about MFF’s issue with distributing hotel rooms, and not mention the vocal group of actual criminals who won the lottery and have been making this situation more uncomfortable for the con organizers and everyone else who have been trying to get rooms. I think that’s at least worth mentioning.
@@lazertiger I've been to AnthroCon 4 times in my lifetime, i've only been invited into random peoples/furries rooms twice and both times i've seen Zoo/map flags taped to the walls or sprawled out over beds it's sickening and demoralizing.
I don't understand what the issues really are. I know that furcons are more about socializing and room parties. But anime conventions that have much higher attendance do not have this issue. AWA has around 30K people a year and it has a "main hotel/convention" space like furcons but there's never been a room lottery or any issues. It's still just first come first serve.
I think its going around in a fur suit it's self that is the issue, with a fur suits the issue of over heating breathing difficulty and finding somewhere to sit and carrying all that stuff around as well as finding a safe place to sleep if you party to hard with friends.
Also imagine fighting for a hotel room when you could just sleep in a local patch of woods for free.
I have been to SCI-FI cons and some of those were just short of a nightmare, there was a big sci-fi con at the Disneyland hotel in 1986, yeah three days worth I got one of the last rooms and part way through I wound up with another person in the room as well. Still had a lot of fun. I figure a furry con would be about like that, about 6 months before the con put in for a room for that time period that way you already have the room reserved.
Because of you I just tweeted "Will top for MFF room"
While I've never organised a convention before, I have studied library events planning as part of my certificate course, and a lot of planning and work goes into organising a library event let alone the amount of work that must into a convention. From what I've heard, MFF is clearly in the hands of people who have a better idea of what they're doing compared to something like Dashcon. With an event this big, there's going to be minor instances of something happening and they do their best to fix those issues because it's all they can do when they have a hundred other things to manage and organise.
People are complaining about not getting a room for the main con hotel.
.....Dude, I'd be happy to even get in the con at all.
I've only been to Anthrocon but that's cause it's the only Convention i am near it's within driving/biking distance, and yeah people really need to stop complaining, about not getting in the main hotel.
@@fintherebel5000 I just wanna go to a con, period. Shit looks so fun and I'm dying to go to one...
@@FishFry1124 Well, work hard and save up and you'll eventually be able to go
"Bitch please! All of us are bottoms!".. Me, as a top considering my options.
If I had to be honest, (if MFF don't do this already) they should prioritise those who are disabled and then next people coming in from Abroad who have to get a visa etc to come in to have the main hotel rooms before the other kinds of guests get priority if any rooms remain.
I personally won't ever be attending MFF as I am not from the US & will never come to the US just for a convention especially one that is so chaotic and packed.
Drama on rooms has been insane even off twitter. It's my first year going to MFF and we have a full room. I've been to huge cons for years so I know how important it is to prepare months ahead. Apparently my partner's friend assumed they were rooming with us and only told him this morning. There's one bed and we'd have to pay more if they roomed with us. Their logic is...astounding.
How do they expect 12k + people to all get rooms at the same hotel
14:38 so you are basically saying that, "will top for a room" would be more effective?
Hell yea
12,000…. I was expecting more but my context is San Diego comic con which is 120,000 people XD
As the director of I.T. for a smaller con, can confirm I don't know shit about running a con.
It's why I direct a department and not the whole convention %-)
Me, who is only going for one day and not going to hotel: YOU'RE WELCOME, I GUESS.
Non-furries: Why are you dressed up as mascots ?
Furries: It keeps us warm during winter.
i m non furry and i use a tshirt for winter so
Not trying to defend the complainers but do you think some of these people might be older furs that remember when conventions were like 2 or 3 thousand people at most and it wasn't so hard to get a hotel room? And for you younger guys, yes, Anthrocon and MFF both totaled out at just 2 or 3k attendies not too long ago.
"So, you didnt win the hotel room lottery"
I can’t exactly relate to this since I don’t go to conventions whatsoever, mainly due to me always needing to get work done, but it sucks how these people attending MFF are just absolutely selfish if they don’t win a lottery for a room.
The staff are trying their hardest, guys, get your shit together.
I'm so surprised I've never been to mff lol I go to Chicago at least once a year and usually it's for conventions. I am familiar with the area but I feel like if I were to go to a furry specific convention for the first time I'd want to be fursuiting but I don't have one yet
*Sitting just trying to stay warm in a rundown farmhouse* “Man must be quite a problem finding a room for this event.” 😂
im surprised you havent talked about furpocalypse broken window drama
Not a furry but back in the day I use to do commission work for peeps in it, made quite a few good friends so I like to keep up with what's going on in the community. Sad to hear the drama of peeps harassing the staff about the rooms, really sucks people could act that way so glad you're standing up for the workers. Shit like that always drives me up the fuckin' wall. Good vid!
As a hotel owner nothing about this lottery system makes sense, especially for events like conventions. It should’ve been first come, first serve. Bots and disgruntled customers should’ve been considered long before saying “Uh oh! This isn’t working..” to the original plan of making a deal with who had it first, If we need to create lottery systems to handle the influx of new furries coming to MFF then perhaps the venue that it’s being hosted at is no longer big enough and or the event is too big for the event holders to handle. There is no shame in needing to find somewhere else to host a convention and or finding new ways to be better prepared for such a mass event. Creating janky reservation systems that would entirely slow down the booking and reserving process won’t help with the confusion. I appreciate the efforts to curb the entitlement to having a room but from one professional to another, MFF is no longer capable of managing itself. I would not be surprised if you get a ‘TanaCon’ on MFF’s hands with the mass amount of money and customers they are letting fly in each year without any proper organization.
I'm very nervous of going, hotel rooms want people of 21 and I'm 20, Im going and I can't wait to meet people :3
I'm not a furry, but this is mad interesting
*Some random person* He would take his room quietly and let us suffer? How dare you!
*Me* I would too.
Gonna be honest conventions make it more fun if you have a group of friends to be with.. even if it's far to go to the main area at least be grateful your having a good time! It's really about socializing.
I'm going to one next year to socialize and uhh have fun in hotel rooms with people.. not going in detail it's personal.
But back what I was saying! It'll be nice to go out and have fun even if you don't get a room.
I am not sure how the decide- my group won a slot in the main hotel, we arent just doing December 1-4 but instead we opted for November 29th to December 5th, we applied for 2 bed with 4 people, 2 of us have fursuits, it would be nice to have some clarity on how they decide!
My friend couldn't get a room this year.
Beta, whoever edits your videos are comedy geniuses
I wanna go to a con eventually to meet Xusho Wolf, because I like sign language and he’s an awesome bean
I've been staff since 2011. I can't say anything about how the lottery works, but I can assure you it is totally fair. I can however also say I've had a main hotel room every single year.
Twitter only showing how pissed off people are on a subject? I’m shocked, shocked I say
While MFF is a big convention by furry standards, there are plenty of other gaming/anime/comic con type conventions that are several times larger in terms of attendance than MFF is. What do they do differently than MFF does to make it work? MFF isn't the only con that has multiple hotels and stuff spread out. Gencon has like 4 times the attendance of MFF and is spread out over a chunk of Indianapolis. I think part of the issue is the furry fandom is having growing pains as their conventions start hitting mid size (compared to other fandoms) and you have a lot of furs that mostly go to furry conventions (that are relatively small compared to stuff like PAX, Otakon, the big Comic Cons) dealing with logistic issues you see in every larger convention. Learn from what other conventions do.
I got a hotel room with my friends, but I never dared to mention it on twitter lol
This wouldn't be such a drama if there weren't other much larger conventions held in the same venue that are able to handle the load no issues. It's only mff, and while it is hard for sure to manage such an event, there needs to be more hands on board clearly.
I'd love to go to a Con someday but damn, finding rooming seems hard.
18:21 and without beta telling us this info, we probably would have berated. This is why Beta is my fav, because not only does he address issues, but he does it humanely. Not looking for drama or wanting to start a fight, he's just that one pony from MLP that brings us all together (as cringy as that sounds). I hope you get my point. He's calmly stating the issue and giving his thoughts on it and tips for those struggling. (ok im done ranting, hope Beta see's this
The whole location honestly seems kind of inconvenient, usually if people plan ahead they can easily get a room in the main hotel of a con and usually staying in other hotels nearby are not that much worse. Like maybe they should consider changing the location overall in the future if it takes that damn long to get to the convention unless you're in one specific area even while connected to the con directly.
I've been going to MFF since 2000 and I've never stayed in the main hotel, always stayed at the Hilton across the street, it's no big deal
I have scrambled eggs anyone that doesn’t think they are a good food just doesn’t know what food is
i cant imagine wanting to go, but being in a wheelchair. disabled furries deserve the accommodations
Man the Utoob algo has a sense of humor…
I feel like a lot of this can be solved with basic tech. Like if they asked I would totally volunteer. Now I have only done engineer conventions but I would happily build a better more reliable booking and lottery site with complete transparency. I would happily build tools they need to run it.
I'm just renting an RV because as a swedish potato idfk how to hotel in america
The intro always makes me laugh 😆
1:51 my entire town could have gone and still 4000 people from other places would be there
I think you bring up some good points about the fairness of the lottery but I also understand the anger of not getting one in the main hotel. I’m disabled so it’s not super easy to stay far away from the con bc health problems :( so I like I get being upset for that reason otherwise it seems pretty petty
>12,000 furries were in one place at one time.
The horror.
When this was trending I was honestly laughing. Mostly at the memes, in a completely harmless way though.
Like yeah, it sucks if you didn’t get a room and you really wanted to go, but if life hasn’t taught you yet that you aren’t owed anything, and that “disappointments happen, better luck next time” then yeah, you’re no better than a random Karen complaining when the McDonald’s soft serve machine is broken.
For as many adults in the fandom that want to have their adult privileges, they sure do act like children sometimes.
Yeah a lot of people forget there's always the next con. There's conventions all the time
Me who lives near Chicago so it’ll probably be the first convention I go to the panic
one of my biggest pet peeves is how incredibly quick furries are to try to cancel people who don't comply to their needs right away.
i was searching for huckmon digimon content and your video showed up ?? im assuming your suit is inspired by huckmon thats why your channel was recommended ?
My cross country and track experience should make this easy
The first time I try to get a hotel at a con and it's this one. That's on me, I guess.
Just a small note from me after watching this: as in terms of staying somewhere for any conventions I go to, I find it best to reserve a private space on AirBnB. Hotels are nice, but they can cost a fortune... And some times the hotel may offer discounts for you to attend an event there, I find the cost is more than the AirBNB reservation. This is just my take on this... Please don't tear me apart if you think I am against hotels...
My house is in driving distance so I’m just watching the hotel burn from my lawn chair lol
Does the necklace mean anything or it's just for accessory?
This year is going to be my first time going and I'm so excited! I didn't get a main hotel room but that's ok. I go to anime cons all the time and that's just par for the course. I'm just happy I'll get to be there. It'll be my first furry con ever and I'm SUPER hype!