I definitely prefer JJ's coat of arms. Could maybe use a few additions though. At the very least I'd add some hockey sticks along the bottom and slather everything in maple syrup. Seriously though, it's time for Canada to get rid of these British symbols that mean nothing to most Canadians these days. Imagine how many more Canadian historical figured we could have on our money if we got rid of the queen on our coins and $20 bill. Also I cringe any time I'm at an event in Canada where people sing God Save the Queen when there is no obvious reason to. It's not our anthem!
hockey sticks is brilliant! maybe one hockey stick crossed with a sword or stylized rifle at the bottom - to show that Canada's generally peaceful and fun-loving, but can fight well when need be.
I like it too! While I'd suggest keeping it simple to make it, another addition could make this look really legit. Be kinda cool to see this be made official by the government.
Q. How many Canadians does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A. Two. One to screw in the bulb and one to stand around and tell everyone who passes by "we are Canadians not Americans."
No 4 1 English speaker to screw in thelightbulb 1 French speaker to also screw in the lightbulb, one to say they're not American in English and the other to say they're not American in French
I've heard it's because when Scotland and England unified, it was seen as Scotland 'handing over the reigns to England'. James VI moved down south, and the government was based down south. Especially with England's bigger population, army, and economy, and its empire starting off successfully. And Scotland being bankrupted by an unsuccessful attempt at an empire.
Accordingly to what i've read the unicorn was adopted as the national "mascot" in the late 14 th century, because this creature (for some reason) is the rival of the lion, England's symbol, so i guess the unicorn was chosen on purpose. The crown with a chain represents the monarch power, that is the only thing that can keep the unicorn tamed.
England did technically conquer Scotland, briefly. Edward I was acknowledged as Lord Paramount of Scotland, whom all claimants to the Scottish Crown acknowledged English suzerainty. This was brief, obviously, didn't last and has absolutely nothing to do with the coat of arms.
@Alex Saunders, By that logic that means the Catholic Jacobites led by Prince Charles conquered England briefly as well, and that England was a long conquered nation before that with the Norman ascendancy - which was a Papist integration of more land with Rome the capital to set down more roots in foreign lands. King Edward I of England was invited over, he was an opportunist, he saw an opportunity in Scotland's lack of stability after the death of King Alexander III of Scotland and Queen Margaret Queen of Scots (Maid of Norway) dying on the boat journey over to Scotland being the catalyst that started it off in the first place.
USA might be our friend but UK and the commonwealth realms along with France are our family you don't abandon your family and blood just for the sake of one new extravagant friend.
@@jakebeaudry8189 with all due respect, it doesn't work like that if you abandon the family and after leaving the family you try to kill another member so you can have his inheritance as well you truly deserve to be banished and treated like a social pariah .
@@ryanhuntrajput474 Hence why till recent history that America is the enemy and we still have doubts about them. The situation would be different if they stay by the crown and commonwealth.
Not true regarding the chain around the Unicorn as Scotland was actually not conquered into the UK. In fact a Scottish king joined the crowns when he became King of England.
The reason the unicorn is in chains is not *purposefully* to do with conquering Scotland, but because unicorns were always thought to be feral animals that needed to be chained up and tamed (as opposed to lions?)
The chains are there because the unicorn is a fantasy beast, and heraldry rules required that fantasy beasts be shown with chains. They were there since before the union. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arms_of_Scotland
And *technically* Scotland “conquered” England because asked king James of Scotland to be their king, but king James quickly began appealing to the largest demographic.
You are right, it's almost the opposite, since, after Elizabeth I's death, the crown of England was offered to the king of Scotland, James VI, who became James I of England
I actually quite like the old coat of arms cuz it's like a cool older symbol from a older period of canadian history. Since Canada doesn't have alot of history I think its important to celebrate what little history we do have
A few corrections: -Scotland wasn't conquered by England. They were in fact united by King James the first. -The unicorn is in fact chained as it was thought to be dangerous. -The red ans white roses are Tudor roses symbolising the formation of the Tudor dynasty with the houses of Lancaster and York coming together with marriage.
@Avignoné Énervé actually Brits did conquer portions of France including Calais. The Plantagenet Dynasty can trace their roots to Aquitaine region of France. English kings also called themselves kings of France till the 1800.
I think it's important to keep at least some of our (canadas) British history alive as tens of thousands of Canadians died for that coat of arms and for the king
I disagree Canada isn’t a colony anymore, keeping antiquated institutions is a sign of regression not progress, also this isn’t a flag, it’s a coat of arms, they ultimately would’ve died if any other coat of arms existed. You can’t bring up war veterans to keep old institutions.
@@rajkaranvirk7525 You have some good points, but I do like our current coat of arms. We are not a colony but are still in the commonwealth, it is nice to acknowledge our roots especially since we are a country where we delete everything old to make room for the new sadly. We have to remember where we came from, maturing as a country recognises this while at the same time moving forward. Also, I think the intention with the coat of arms is important, as is it intended specifically Canadian government to be a symbol currently, or just something to represent us? In a nutshell, it represents us, and I would argue that it even does so currently as those things are constant -- it isn't like our founders can change. What isn't constant is influence, especially with everyone coming here now, but that doesn't mean it still does not represent us. I get that JJ thinks it doesn't represent us currently, but it still whether he likes to think about it or not, does represent Canada in a sense that the government looks at, which isn't the current "culture" or whatever he and other people so often look to for a new coat of arms.
I might be the only one who likes our coat of arms aha then again I am also fond of our historical ties to Britain, and I'm a fan of the traditional aesthetic. To me it looks elegant, and unless a newer one is equal in how it's structured (basically nice to look at), I will always prefer the one we currently have.
England never owned France. It was normans who conquered England 1066 and installed new crown and they had same time parts of France under France crown. It became vassal more powerful than leader of the vassaliser; France.
Diego Cano did he own France as hole? Was he the only king of the France crown for long period of time? For common history from 1066 to end of 100 years war conflict it was just a fraction if any.
During the 100 years war the French owned very little land, the English owned more land, it wasn't until the war of the Roses that the French started taking back France.
S.E.M Asantehene I'd like to remind you that most national symbols show what a country wants to think of itself more than factual reality. And there was a British claim for the French crown for centuries. Also, they weren't so crazy thinking so since they had control over most of the French territory.
Bees in British Heraldry ,Cornwall and Wales are seen as part of England and not separate entities. The harp in the British CoA represents the island of Ireland as a whole i.e both NI and the republic of Ireland.
Technicalllllllly…while they’re not represented in the UK coat of arms (which is simultaneously that of the monarch…it’s…complicated), they are included in the coat of arms of the heir (or at least, they were until the King came to the throne). Because the heir is Prince of Wales, the arms of Scotland are at the centre (an “inescutcheon”) of his coat of arms. And because he’s also Duke of Cornwall, the coat of arms of Cornwall (basically, nine yellow dots, or ‘bezants’ on a black, or ‘sable’ background) is also featured: it’s below the main coat of arms of the Prince of Wales. And the heir has a totally separate coat of arms that he uses just for Scotland, with allusions to his titles of Duke of Rothesay, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland, and Lord of the Isles, all of which he holds as regards Scotland.
I would like to point out things I think is a Mistake: "Scotland was Conquered by England". Scottish monarch inherit English throne because the English ones keep dying out without any heirs. And because there is no other contestant on the English throne, the Scottish royal family merge the crown since both are inseparable, creating a Personal Union, which happens a lot. You don't have to conquer a nation to annex it, back then. "Back when France owned by England" Country couldn't own another Country. It's the monarch or person who control over the land, not the state. Also English kings were only control half of France (Aquitania, Gascony, Anjou, Normandy) and they never actually obtain the French Crown themself. Maybe the Fleur de Lys is a homage to the French Heritage of Quebec, because Canada was a French Colony. Also Canada is a British dominion and their head of state is Queen Elizabeth II, so yeah, the similar coat of arms is make sense. You're not independent, Canada, just self governing.
Canada is no longer a Dominion the British government relinquished all political power in Canada in 1987, the queen is still head of state in Canada, but her title their is queen of Canada as in ruling Canada as an independent nation
Things that never existed in Canada or in the Americas for that matter (whereas Lions did exist in Europe, and the Unicorn is simply because Scotland is so special)
@@currently7886 lmao, anglo-saxons and francophones also didn't exist in canada yet here we are. Just what in the world is so outlandish and upsetting about a country giving a damn about its roots? At this point every J.J. video is just canadians of the past: "haha my parents, culture, language and institutions are all british, i do feel very british! I love being part of the empire and i will cherish all of the heritage it gave me!" J.J:"NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT DO THAT YOU HAVE TO STRICTLY BIND YOURSELF TO THE ACCIDENTAL GEOGRAPHIC POSITION YOU HAPPENED TO BE BORN ON NOOOOOOOO"
"The lion represents England and the unicorn represents Scotland. These are the two founding kingdoms of Great Britain." Wales weeps in the corner. A dragon would've been too epic for the coat of arms anyway.
It's important the retain our symbols of our founding nations. It's what created the foundation of Canada. We have been blessed with many of immigrants from all over the world to help build our nation. But it's important to know the roots of our country. The coat of arms is like a story of how our country was born.
@@infxrnalsylvan Did you not read my comment? I said it represents the roots of our country which was very British, and there's nothing wrong with that.
What’s wrong with it, it shows off your British heritage as well as the French heritage but is also uniquely Canadian, the only thing I might say could change would be the unicorn to a moose but that’s about it.In the end the Anglosphere excluding America all have similar coats of arms with distinctive differences which honour their British legacy and their unique qualities.
I personally take a great deal of delight in the representations of our national British heritage. The Coat of Arms is a prime example of this. Additional examples include but are not limited to: The reigning monarch on our coins, $20.00 and $1,000.00 bank notes, the Ontario and Manitoba versions of the Red Ensign (as well as other provincial flags), even the political system as a whole. I also fly a canvas Union Jack or a Green Leaf Red Ensign from time to time. There are many things that make Canada a nation we can mutually pride ourselves in (Maple syrup, hockey, beavers, moose, lots and lots of snow, red /black checkered plaid shirts, poutine, bagged milk, Kraft Dinner, early thanksgiving, universal health care, etc.) and the British symbols, motifs, homages, and other such reminders are a key part of this great nation that spans from sea to shining sea.
OK, we went over this before, but I'd really like you to draw it. Supporters (currently the lion and unicorn): polar bear on left, moose on right Crest (currently the crowned lion): a beaver holding a maple leaf Shield: divided into three sections by an upside-down Y shape: in the first section, a white pine on red, yellow and black; in the second section, a grey inukshuk on white; in the third section, a white Metis infinity symbol on blue Compartment (the very bottom, currently occupied by flowers): rippling water
When he said “every country has one”, that peaked my interest and I just had to Google image search “United States coat of arms”. Definitely nothing I hadn’t seen before, but I never really connected the dots that that’s what it was-probably because we call it the Great Seal or something weird like that. I guess the founding fathers associated the phrase “coat of arms” with the British monarchy or something.
The official coat of arms of the United States is simply the design that's inside the Great Seal ( rb.gy/qwib7g ). Like the Canadian coat of arms it still follows European heraldic tradition, but it's far simpler with only four elements (escutcheon, supporter, crest, motto) as opposed to Canada's seven (escutcheon, supporters, crest, torse, order, motto, compartment). Plus its armiger is the country of the United States while the armiger of Canada's coat of arms is the Queen of Canada.
Me too I googled "coat of arms of bangladesh" and saw the national emblem of Bengal bruh I guess the tern "coat of arms" is for constitutional monarchies
By coat of arms he meant logos of Nations some call it cost of arms some call it seal some call it state emblem or national emblem. Some countries call it coat of arms as their emblem follows the rules of heraldry and if I am not wrong usually European countries and many of their former colonies have coat of arms .
@@conserztasfia0078 No the term coat of arms is used when it follows rules of heraldry. Some countries do not follow so they call their symbol has national emblem or seal eg. India , Bangladesh, Japan , China etc.
@@currently7886 being cultured is considered awful now great let me guess none of your ancestors fought any wars against America and paid in blood for canada sovreignity did they , the people who saved this country and made this country chose this COAT OF ARMS IT SHALL STAY THIS WAY UNTIL THE END OF TIME .
@@ryanhuntrajput474 My ancestors. Bruh. Not only have my ancestors been in Canada for hundreds of years, but they also fought in many wars for Canada. Indeed 3 of my immediate family members are in the military now. What are you on against?
@@currently7886 o really and you still want to abolish all the regalia symbolism and nostalgic british and french memorabilia which reminds us of great history culture and heritage how could you possibly condemn and denigrate the exact ideology which brought prosperity wealth and peace to the north you do realise if you're not lying your ancestors fought to prevent republicanism and corporate take over of a country by fighting wars for the british or french and now you want sell our sovreignity for a couple of dollars it's our identity to be a constitutional monarchy and association with the French without them we are just another USA. You should Be proud of who you are be proud of being a Canadian .🇨🇦
@@ryanhuntrajput474 Easy. The Christian worldview is subjective and is in now way the absolute truth as absolute truth is unavailable to us as humans. We need to do away with a divinely appointed monarch and likewise the institutions that gain their power from it. Instead the power should be granted to the people by the people themselves. The symbols of the British history are entangled in a religious world view that does not hold up under scrutiny. As it pertains to the CoA, Canada being an independent nation should have one that represents Canada and the goals of Canadians rather than supporting a historic sovereign. Claim the sovereignty coupled with its own identity.
Moose and beaver as the animals, maple leaf, totem pole, Quebec symbol, maybe a Gaelic symbol (Atlantic provinces) and perhaps a Mountie riding in the middle of it all.
I don't like the idea of a coat of arms having "ethnic" symbols in a country as diverse as Canada. That's not what Canada is about. Aboriginal symbols are different, because they represent the history of the land.
Then could British and French symbols be a different thing, since they have a lot of history in Canada? Also, I might have a bit of a weird perspective on this stuff since I come from Florida, and our flag has the flag of a long-dead empire in it.
We must not forget that Canada has a monarchy, a monarch whose Coat of Arms happens to represent the UK as well. Let us remember: Canada's Coat of Arms is more about its allegiance to the Queen than it is to British history. The Union Jack is flown around Canada to commemorate our membership of the Commonwealth, our monarchy, and yes, also our British history.
Your suggested coat of arms is a lot like Australia's--taking the UK coat of arms to acknowledge its historical ties, and adapting it with local animals and symbols. They should do it!
There is as much difference between the aboriginal nations as there is between the French, English, Breton, Scottish, Irish and Basque historical settlers.
I actually really, really like JJ’s design (less is more as regards heraldic design, to put it simply). Although I’d put the totem pole on a helmet (as it’s above the shield, it would be the crest of the coat of arms, which is properly put upon a helmet, but often omitted).
I like J.J.'s, with one addendum: put the Crown at the top. :D Anyway, the problematic thing about the current one isn't so much that it has imperial roots, but that the British symbols far outweigh the other elements in it. Canada purports to be bilingual with three "founding nations" (the British, the French, and the First Nations). There is nothing signifying the First Nations, and the references to the French (the fleur-de-lis) are clearly thrown in as a mere token in the mix rather than given an equal presence as a founding nation. The national balance portrayed (between the English & the Scots) is definitely more relevant to the UK rather than Canada.
I believe the design looks great. The things id change is: -Removing the scottish and irsh symbols and replacing them with native symbols. -Replacing the Lion with a Moose -Replacing the Unicorn with a Horse -Replacing the top Lion with a Beaver
The shield is called an escutcheon, it's the most important part of a coat of arms, the eponymous _arm,_ i.e., weapon. Historically, a coat of arms was part of what the modern world calls _dress blues_ - i.e., military formal-wear. The various animals and other emblems on a traditional coat of arms all hold specific meanings, and were generally meant to represent someone's achievements and/or heritage, particularly insofar as they answer two questions: "who are you?" and "why should I care?"
Geneva Mapping yes that's right! Normandy and parts of Brittany was owned by England back in the 1300-1400s but they eventually lost it because of the Hundred Years' War. Also not half, more like an eighth
I really believe that the model of coat of arms that you've presented is just perfect! The maple leaf is always mandatory for me in this case. Maybe I would change the bieber for a lion, and I would add a few fleur-de-lys, so the French and English origins would still be present, remembering that Canada is a country were a lot of cultural facts mixture. But it is true that your model would be always better than the actual one, because yours speaks more about Canada lifestyle and culture than the official one.
That coat of arms has symbolism that has extremely importiant meaning to canada. Your coat of arms has no history in it, but it has 2 animals that live there. Great. Canadian history makes us who we are weather we like it or not. And as a matter of fact, name somthing on the “old” coat of arms that doesn’t have to do with canada
Basic everything, but for historic purpose keep the format change the bearers and the shields heraldic symbols to include the canadian provinces like they used to in the old days
The beaver isn't just an animal that lives here. It's been a prominent Canadian symbol for a very long time, largely because the insanely lucrative trade in beaver fur was responsible for much of the early exploration of the country.
You think the beaver has no relevance to Canadian history? Seriously? Beavers were the main reason the interior of the country was first explored by Europeans.
The Unicorn also represented France. France and Scotland have that symbol in common, mostly through inter-marriage of their nobilities, and because Scotland was France's historical ally. Fun fact: there were scots on both sides of the battle of Québec, which pitted french troops and canadian militia against scottish highlanders and english troops, on a field owned by a former scotsman. Among the canadian militia were immigrants from scotland, bretony and other parts of the french-allied political sphere.
Part of me would like to see a new coat of arms and part of me doesn't because the coat of arms is one of the last major things we still have that represents our British heritage, and since we've lost so much of our British symbols it would be nice to keep at least one thing that shows our history.
You can always read books on history instead of keeping them intact in your government, Canada isn’t a colony anymore, the fact that Canada’s national Animal(the beaver) isn’t even on its own coat arms speaks volumes of how outdated it is
I am a hobbyist who is interested in heraldry. Most of the terms used in this video were downright wrong and inaccurate. A coat of arms refers not only to a "country's logo" but any armorial achievement that can be borne by individuals, corporations, municipalities, etc. Most of the elements of the shield that you pointed out, including the "lion" and "weird helmet" and "flowers" have names, respectively the "supporters", "helm", and "compartment". While I do agree the Canadian coat of arms isn't the best national coat and could definitely be improved, please do your research before making another video that concerns heraldry.
At 2:06. France was never owned by England. England owned parts of France and tried to take over ALL of France in the Hundred Years' War. But the French fought fiercely so that the English could never do so. That's why there are French national heroes like Joan of Arc, etc. It was during this loooong ass war that the French came to hate the English and vice-versa. That being said, the English kings never gave up their claim to the French throne and stubbornly stuck that claim into their official coat of arms. Hence the three fleur de lis. I believe it was only during the reign of King George IV that the personal coat of arms of the British monarch FINALLY got rid of that childish claim to the French throne. But the official coat of arms of Canada never made that switch apparently.
Scotland was not conquered. It’s own King inherited the English crown bringing unification of the two kingdoms under a common Sovereign. This was followed by political, legal and economic unification in 1707 which was ratified by the pre-Union Scottish Parliament and separately the English Parliament.
I'm into the one you drew. Maybe add some poutine, a bottle of maple syrup, have the beaver holding a hockey stick, the moose with a lacrosse stick (used in Canada's *actual* official sport), a stubby bottle, and a pot leaf
I don't know why so many Canadians reject our British influence. My family in Alberta loves the Red Ensign, and our coat of arms because they somewhat consider Canada British.
Your five second design is perfect. And don't add anything else to it. The maple leaf is the land (and since it reflects the one-people-one-symbol thing of the flag, it is also the symbol of the people), the animals are tokens of the unique nature of Canada, and the totem pole a nod to all of the First Nation members, you have it all. Nothing else needed.
I really like Nunavut's coat of arms, which your drawing kinda reminded me of. I like how they ditched the British-style shield shape and used a lot of First Nations imagery. Plus one if the shield bearers is a narwhal.
I like the idea of replacing the lion and unicorn with the moose and beaver (like Australia's kangaroo and emu). That being said, I like the rest of it and would leave it as is.
There's something that has always bothered me about the Coat of Arms that nobody ever seems to point out, the Union Jack is backwards for some reason! I get that it may make sense because of how it is positioned, but it has annoyed me for a very long time, and I don't know why.
Add an element from each of the provinces. A dogwood flower from BC, a wild rose from Alberta, that big stone tower from Nunavut, a trillium from Ontario, etc.
As an Australian with a coat of arms filled with emus, kangaroos and a shield with the badge of each of Australia's 6 states I feel that Canada has, whilst a cool coat of arms - a very dated coat of arms.
Canada must be very proud of British History, after all Canada is rich today because of Britain. May British monarchy reign Canada until the world ends.
The British coat of arms doesn’t have any Fleur de Lis. It has the yellow lioms for England, a red lion for Scotland, a harp for Ireland and smaller yellow lions for Whales
I like the Canadian coat of arms, and I think the symbols make sense as historical and cultural influences but ... yours is WAY better. If you made merch with that on it, I'd buy it all.
People are saying that we should remove all British symbols. But what should we add instead? Represent the Indigenous people who only make up 5% of the Canadian population? No! Keep the historical British symbols that mean so much to me and countless other fellow Canadians.
Definitely an improvement! The star is used by Jews, but it has no religious meaning! It is simply a neutral symbol that Jews use in lieu of a cross or crescent.
I like our coat of arms. Canada was founded by the British, our institutions and everything we like about our nation is in part thanks to the British and the countries that make up the UK. Including France. To ignore all that is ignoring our heritage and what differentiates us from the Americans. Well that and we're less crazy... Over weight and gun happy. But I diregress, Retaining the few vestiges we have of the British reminds us of where we came from, how we became the nation we are today and in a way shows a sign of respect to the country and it's people who helped make it all happen.
im American and ashamed....my grandfather was a WWI canadian soldier who won the kings cross...i love canada....you should too....love your country JJ...you're so lucky
So many mistakes. JJ, please do proper research next time and don't give such a biased version of Canadian history. 1. The chains on the unicorn do not represent England's "conquest" of Scotland, which is btw not an accurate way to describe how England and Scotland were united anyway. Unicorns are traditionally chained in heraldry, as a sort of symbol of the bearer's strength - a unicorn is legendarily wild and untameable, so if you actually managed to tame it, you must be very powerful. 2.The other parts on the UK shield do not represent other parts of the 'British Empire', they represent other parts of BRITAIN. Since France was no longer claimed when Canada was formed in 1921, its inclusion on the Canadian arms couldn't possibly be symbolising ownership over France. Obviously, therefore, it represents French Canadians, one of the founding peoples of Canada, while the other parts represent English, Scottish, and Irish Canadians. 3. FFS, Canada wasn't a colony in 1921. It was a Dominion, which by that time essentially meant it was independent, a position formalised just a few years after that. Why can't you accept that many Canadians at the time still saw Britain as the mother country and felt a special tie to it, but were nonetheless independent members of the Empire, like Australia, New Zealand, and Ireland? It's perfectly understandable that you don't see that legacy as relevant anymore, but that doesn't mean that it has "nothing to do" with Canada - clearly, it's pretty central to Canada's history, and moreover it's a heritage that was celebrated way past the point at which Canada effectively was fully independent, not something that existed only when Canada was a colony and has now gone away because Canada is now independent. I do actually like your design, it's a lot more like Australia, which used native animals and such (adopted soon after Australia federated into one Dominion just like Canada - apparently them being a "colony" as you wrongly termed it did not stop them from strongly asserting a more independent identity while maintaining the same loyalty to the 'mother country' as Canada). Would be nice to also represent the provinces. However, I also like the current coat of arms, most importantly because I don't think a country's historical legacy and where it came from have nothing to do with it - it's actually much stranger for a country to turn its back on its past and the basis for its foundation (which in Canada's case, the preamble of the constitution states quite clearly). Certainly, this doesn't have to be represented in the coat of arms, as Australia, NZ, and others show, but it's not a bad thing either. Perhaps Canada's coat of arms overdoes it, I could agree with that - a compromise solution could be to change the supporters (the animals on either side) with Canadian animals as you propose in your version.
"The chains actually signify that the unicorn cannot be oppressed, since the chains are broken and, if reattached to anything, will be broken again. The unicorn with the chain has been used as a Scottish royal symbol since long before the union with England." www.heraldry.ca/misc/coatArmsCanada.htm
Well if you want to be technical, Ireland wasn't independent at all in 1921. And probably you could argue no dominion was in effect until the Statute of Westminster in 1931.
Regarding Ireland, you're right, dominion status officially only took effect the following year. Regarding dominions, the term 'dominion' was one that dates at least to Canada's Confederation in 1867. Though its meaning evolved over time, it was from the beginning always meant to be a state of greater independence than a 'colony'. It's pretty clear that by 1921, if not earlier, it had come to mean virtually independent with the main exception of foreign affairs, hence Ireland in 1921 was granted 'dominion' status. This meaning of dominion was formalised and enhanced into complete independence with the statute of Westminster. Legally speaking, yes, dominion status was officially, de jure, still much more like being a colony with Britain still being able to make laws for dominions etc., but as with so many things in the British constitution, what's on paper is not a perfect representation of reality. For example, when did Britain become a parliamentary system instead of a monarchy, with the prime minister really being chosen by and responsible to parliament instead of the monarch? On paper, Britain (as well as Australia and Canada) are still fully monarchies. In reality, though, they're obviously parliamentary systems.
I think it should be kinda like yours but the shield should have the provinces and territories of Canada on it, maybe some symbols representing the provinces and territories? And then have the Canadian Maple leaf at the top
The fleur-de-lis was removed from the British coat of arms in 1801. The one on the Canadian coat of arms represents Quebec. The Scots just like their unicorns in chains. It has nothing to do with conquest. The English used financial and trade pressure to force the Scots into a union in 1707. The Scots had lost their money in the Darien Scheme in 1700, so the country was financially vulnerable.
I was thinking we could have the national animal (Beaver) in the middle of a shield in the middle of the coat of arms, and under the beaver the national motto. Then we could have moose on either side and 2 hockey sticks which are handle to handle on the bottom. Maple leaves could line the top like tinsel almost. Maybe we could also incorporate Tim Hortons, maple syrup and poutine too..... probably not though aha. I also really like the idea Lancer011 had. :). I'm not sure I have an opinion about removing the hints to our British/ French history, though.
You don’t think it’s maybe because... Canada was made by Britain? 😮😮😮 The Coat of Arms is fine, you on the other hand... Canada is a nation of British heritage, don’t change it... please.
RANDOM NAME Beavers and Totem Poles represent Canada more than a Lion and Unicorn. Australia has more of a British heritage but they have their own animals as a coat of arms.
Canada as made by Britain in 1867 3.5 Million Canada as made by Canadians in 2020 ~38 Million Keep the Roman Empire's symbols because Europe was made by Rome, please don't change it. Bruh...
This video is wrong, the unicorn is chained up because chaining a unicorn was seen as the greatest achievement a Scottish king could achieve, it is not seen as a symbol was English supremacy especially due to the fact that the concept was prominent in Scotland long before Britain was established. 1:50
I definitely prefer JJ's coat of arms. Could maybe use a few additions though. At the very least I'd add some hockey sticks along the bottom and slather everything in maple syrup.
Seriously though, it's time for Canada to get rid of these British symbols that mean nothing to most Canadians these days. Imagine how many more Canadian historical figured we could have on our money if we got rid of the queen on our coins and $20 bill. Also I cringe any time I'm at an event in Canada where people sing God Save the Queen when there is no obvious reason to. It's not our anthem!
But it warms our British hearts 💓
I agree with the coat of arms design. Minus the foolish syrup idea.
The Queen should not be removed.
hockey sticks is brilliant! maybe one hockey stick crossed with a sword or stylized rifle at the bottom - to show that Canada's generally peaceful and fun-loving, but can fight well when need be.
I like it too! While I'd suggest keeping it simple to make it, another addition could make this look really legit. Be kinda cool to see this be made official by the government.
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Q. How many Canadians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A. Two. One to screw in the bulb and one to stand around and tell everyone who passes by "we are Canadians not Americans."
Or he could even say “We are Canadians, not Britons.”
@@bruhchamp16593 no one wonders if a Canadian is British. Accents are a thing.
1 english and 1 french lol
@@maithfull yeah, we need another person to say "et parlons français" or whatever
No 4 1 English speaker to screw in thelightbulb 1 French speaker to also screw in the lightbulb, one to say they're not American in English and the other to say they're not American in French
England never conquered Scotland, James VI inherited both kingdoms under a personal union after the death of Elizabeth I...
I've heard it's because when Scotland and England unified, it was seen as Scotland 'handing over the reigns to England'. James VI moved down south, and the government was based down south. Especially with England's bigger population, army, and economy, and its empire starting off successfully. And Scotland being bankrupted by an unsuccessful attempt at an empire.
Yes that is one glaring mistake, glad you brought that up. I'm a small "c' conservative when it comes to changing symbles
Accordingly to what i've read the unicorn was adopted as the national "mascot" in the late 14 th century, because this creature (for some reason) is the rival of the lion, England's symbol, so i guess the unicorn was chosen on purpose. The crown with a chain represents the monarch power, that is the only thing that can keep the unicorn tamed.
England did technically conquer Scotland, briefly. Edward I was acknowledged as Lord Paramount of Scotland, whom all claimants to the Scottish Crown acknowledged English suzerainty. This was brief, obviously, didn't last and has absolutely nothing to do with the coat of arms.
@Alex Saunders, By that logic that means the Catholic Jacobites led by Prince Charles conquered England briefly as well, and that England was a long conquered nation before that with the Norman ascendancy - which was a Papist integration of more land with Rome the capital to set down more roots in foreign lands.
King Edward I of England was invited over, he was an opportunist, he saw an opportunity in Scotland's lack of stability after the death of King Alexander III of Scotland and Queen Margaret Queen of Scots (Maid of Norway) dying on the boat journey over to Scotland being the catalyst that started it off in the first place.
J.J. : "I hate this thing. This thing is the worst thing in the world."
Also J.J. : *Pulls out huge laminated copy of thing*
like the trudeau photo he owns too? and the one of the queen?
USA might be our friend but UK and the commonwealth realms along with France are our family you don't abandon your family and blood just for the sake of one new extravagant friend.
@@ryanhuntrajput474 Technically America was a formerly estranged big brother who left the family.
@@jakebeaudry8189 with all due respect, it doesn't work like that if you abandon the family and after leaving the family you try to kill another member so you can have his inheritance as well you truly deserve to be banished and treated like a social pariah .
@@ryanhuntrajput474 Hence why till recent history that America is the enemy and we still have doubts about them. The situation would be different if they stay by the crown and commonwealth.
Not true regarding the chain around the Unicorn as Scotland was actually not conquered into the UK. In fact a Scottish king joined the crowns when he became King of England.
I also don't get the France conquored thing. EDIT: I think he meant the French territories in mainland America.
It is chained because according to mythology, the unicorn is extremely dangerous and uncontrollable without a chain on it.
I'm not British!
In that case, perhaps you should research more thoroughly before speaking authoritatively?
He probably mean the one hundred years war were england claim the french throne and conquered a third of france.
“The thistle, shamrock, rose entwined, the maple leaf forever !”
That was changed to “The lily, thistle, shamrock, rose, the maple leaf forever!” to include the French.
@@SilentBudgie Gotta love how whenever the French Canadians insist on bein included they try to stick themselves first
The reason the unicorn is in chains is not *purposefully* to do with conquering Scotland, but because unicorns were always thought to be feral animals that needed to be chained up and tamed (as opposed to lions?)
The chains are there because the unicorn is a fantasy beast, and heraldry rules required that fantasy beasts be shown with chains. They were there since before the union. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arms_of_Scotland
That's a weird rule, wonder why that is.
Also Scotland was never conquered, Scotland inheritied England
And *technically* Scotland “conquered” England because asked king James of Scotland to be their king, but king James quickly began appealing to the largest demographic.
But wasn't the unicorn considered a real animal when the coat of arms was created ?
Scotland was not conquered!
You are right, it's almost the opposite, since, after Elizabeth I's death, the crown of England was offered to the king of Scotland, James VI, who became James I of England
@Calum Taylor I think it represents Nova Scotia, colony of the Scots at one point and is now Canadian province.
Perhaps J.J. was watching the movie "Braveheart", before he made this video.
I actually quite like the old coat of arms cuz it's like a cool older symbol from a older period of canadian history. Since Canada doesn't have alot of history I think its important to celebrate what little history we do have
Incorporate the indigenous Canadians more, Canada’s history could go back all the way to the ice age.
@@vibes292 that would actually make more interesting heraldry instead of the boring crap Britain has
A few corrections:
-Scotland wasn't conquered by England. They were in fact united by King James the first.
-The unicorn is in fact chained as it was thought to be dangerous.
-The red ans white roses are Tudor roses symbolising the formation of the Tudor dynasty with the houses of Lancaster and York coming together with marriage.
@Avignoné Énervé exactly
@Avignoné Énervé actually Brits did conquer portions of France including Calais. The Plantagenet Dynasty can trace their roots to Aquitaine region of France. English kings also called themselves kings of France till the 1800.
I was going to make the same point about Scotland as well, but you beat me to it.,
Give the Beaver and the Moose some crowns and they'll be kings of their own little world.
Mark Johnson Nice callback.
such is the coat of arms of Chile gcdn.emol.cl/educacion-para-ninos/files/2012/08/escudo-chile.jpg
I think it's important to keep at least some of our (canadas) British history alive as tens of thousands of Canadians died for that coat of arms and for the king
I disagree Canada isn’t a colony anymore, keeping antiquated institutions is a sign of regression not progress, also this isn’t a flag, it’s a coat of arms, they ultimately would’ve died if any other coat of arms existed. You can’t bring up war veterans to keep old institutions.
@@rajkaranvirk7525 You have some good points, but I do like our current coat of arms. We are not a colony but are still in the commonwealth, it is nice to acknowledge our roots especially since we are a country where we delete everything old to make room for the new sadly. We have to remember where we came from, maturing as a country recognises this while at the same time moving forward. Also, I think the intention with the coat of arms is important, as is it intended specifically Canadian government to be a symbol currently, or just something to represent us? In a nutshell, it represents us, and I would argue that it even does so currently as those things are constant -- it isn't like our founders can change. What isn't constant is influence, especially with everyone coming here now, but that doesn't mean it still does not represent us. I get that JJ thinks it doesn't represent us currently, but it still whether he likes to think about it or not, does represent Canada in a sense that the government looks at, which isn't the current "culture" or whatever he and other people so often look to for a new coat of arms.
@@rajkaranvirk7525 your name implies you aren’t of British heritage. Get the hell out of Canada if you want to disrespect our British heritage.
You look alot younger without the mustache
He's still ugly though. Inside and out.
*yoonger
With a moustach he looks like borat.
Still pretty freaky though.
Am I the only one that thinks he's kinda handsome
Quick correction: the French references represent the heritage of French Canadians, one of the "founding nations" of Canada.
Unless you’re stereotypically a bri’ish person and hates on the oi’rish then yeah
ur hot
@@joshuataylor3550 they have appeared in your coat of arms before though.
Put that on a blue sheet, and voila! You got yourself a US state flag!
irishpennsylvanian - that's silly nonsense! Canada would never be a state! or would it..... ? hmm...
Let's not.
Welcome to Cody's List of Shame.
Put it on a white sheet and you got yourself a mexico state flag
I might be the only one who likes our coat of arms aha then again I am also fond of our historical ties to Britain, and I'm a fan of the traditional aesthetic. To me it looks elegant, and unless a newer one is equal in how it's structured (basically nice to look at), I will always prefer the one we currently have.
...kind of looks too messy to me, personally.
You're not alone I agree with all that you said lol
England never owned France.
It was normans who conquered England 1066 and installed new crown and they had same time parts of France under France crown.
It became vassal more powerful than leader of the vassaliser; France.
Also Richard the Lionheart, he owned more of France than the French did at the time.
In fact, monarchs like Henry VIII were known as king of England, Wales, Ireland and... FRANCE!
Diego Cano did he own France as hole? Was he the only king of the France crown for long period of time?
For common history from 1066 to end of 100 years war conflict it was just a fraction if any.
During the 100 years war the French owned very little land, the English owned more land, it wasn't until the war of the Roses that the French started taking back France.
S.E.M Asantehene I'd like to remind you that most national symbols show what a country wants to think of itself more than factual reality. And there was a British claim for the French crown for centuries. Also, they weren't so crazy thinking so since they had control over most of the French territory.
Its nice to see the Welsh and Cornish are represented on the UK coat of arms
no one cares about Cornwall, but representation of Wales and NI should be there definetly
Bees in British Heraldry ,Cornwall and Wales are seen as part of England and not separate entities. The harp in the British CoA represents the island of Ireland as a whole i.e both NI and the republic of Ireland.
Technicalllllllly…while they’re not represented in the UK coat of arms (which is simultaneously that of the monarch…it’s…complicated), they are included in the coat of arms of the heir (or at least, they were until the King came to the throne).
Because the heir is Prince of Wales, the arms of Scotland are at the centre (an “inescutcheon”) of his coat of arms.
And because he’s also Duke of Cornwall, the coat of arms of Cornwall (basically, nine yellow dots, or ‘bezants’ on a black, or ‘sable’ background) is also featured: it’s below the main coat of arms of the Prince of Wales.
And the heir has a totally separate coat of arms that he uses just for Scotland, with allusions to his titles of Duke of Rothesay, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland, and Lord of the Isles, all of which he holds as regards Scotland.
I like the current one. It’s more than amazing. It’s rooted in history and represent how this country was founded.
I would like to point out things I think is a Mistake:
"Scotland was Conquered by England".
Scottish monarch inherit English throne because the English ones keep dying out without any heirs.
And because there is no other contestant on the English throne, the Scottish royal family merge the crown since both are inseparable, creating a Personal Union, which happens a lot. You don't have to conquer a nation to annex it, back then.
"Back when France owned by England"
Country couldn't own another Country. It's the monarch or person who control over the land, not the state. Also English kings were only control half of France (Aquitania, Gascony, Anjou, Normandy) and they never actually obtain the French Crown themself. Maybe the Fleur de Lys is a homage to the French Heritage of Quebec, because Canada was a French Colony.
Also Canada is a British dominion and their head of state is Queen Elizabeth II, so yeah, the similar coat of arms is make sense. You're not independent, Canada, just self governing.
Canada is no longer a Dominion the British government relinquished all political power in Canada in 1987, the queen is still head of state in Canada, but her title their is queen of Canada as in ruling Canada as an independent nation
By the time Great Britain had colonised Canada, it had lost all of their holdings in France a few centuries prior.
@@northatlanticcommonwealth1188 She was relinquishing her power and the British Governments power so we can change our own constitution.
Canada is NOT a dominion anymore, the British have absolutely no powers in Canada.
@@Isaac_the_Organist Dude the British government have absolutely NO powers in Canada anymore.
I like the old Coat of arms. Very classy, tells the story of our nations foundations. and after all, who doesn't like unicorns and Lions?
Things that never existed in Canada or in the Americas for that matter (whereas Lions did exist in Europe, and the Unicorn is simply because Scotland is so special)
@@currently7886 There are 24 lions on the coat of arms of Belgium but there have never been lions in Belgium.
@@currently7886 lmao, anglo-saxons and francophones also didn't exist in canada yet here we are. Just what in the world is so outlandish and upsetting about a country giving a damn about its roots? At this point every J.J. video is just
canadians of the past: "haha my parents, culture, language and institutions are all british, i do feel very british! I love being part of the empire and i will cherish all of the heritage it gave me!"
J.J:"NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT DO THAT YOU HAVE TO STRICTLY BIND YOURSELF TO THE ACCIDENTAL GEOGRAPHIC POSITION YOU HAPPENED TO BE BORN ON NOOOOOOOO"
Nicely said. I agree completely.
"The lion represents England and the unicorn represents Scotland. These are the two founding kingdoms of Great Britain."
Wales weeps in the corner.
A dragon would've been too epic for the coat of arms anyway.
How about we just say the shield is one if the dragon's scales.
Wales is not a Kingdom - it is a Principality.
Wales actually used to be on the coat of arms before being replaced by Scotland
It's important the retain our symbols of our founding nations. It's what created the foundation of Canada. We have been blessed with many of immigrants from all over the world to help build our nation. But it's important to know the roots of our country. The coat of arms is like a story of how our country was born.
It represents Britain more over canada.
@@infxrnalsylvan Did you not read my comment? I said it represents the roots of our country which was very British, and there's nothing wrong with that.
It's not dat bad
Frankly I like it
I love it
It’s not very unique but it definitely looks nice imo.
Yo is that a Kaiserreich avatar
Personally I love it! And I'm not British.
The fleur-de-lises represent Francophone Canada, the whole New France thing.
England never “owned” France they just claimed the French throne
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What’s wrong with it, it shows off your British heritage as well as the French heritage but is also uniquely Canadian, the only thing I might say could change would be the unicorn to a moose but that’s about it.In the end the Anglosphere excluding America all have similar coats of arms with distinctive differences which honour their British legacy and their unique qualities.
But JJ is incredibly obsessed with the US.
I personally take a great deal of delight in the representations of our national British heritage. The Coat of Arms is a prime example of this. Additional examples include but are not limited to: The reigning monarch on our coins, $20.00 and $1,000.00 bank notes, the Ontario and Manitoba versions of the Red Ensign (as well as other provincial flags), even the political system as a whole.
I also fly a canvas Union Jack or a Green Leaf Red Ensign from time to time. There are many things that make Canada a nation we can mutually pride ourselves in (Maple syrup, hockey, beavers, moose, lots and lots of snow, red /black checkered plaid shirts, poutine, bagged milk, Kraft Dinner, early thanksgiving, universal health care, etc.) and the British symbols, motifs, homages, and other such reminders are a key part of this great nation that spans from sea to shining sea.
OK, we went over this before, but I'd really like you to draw it.
Supporters (currently the lion and unicorn): polar bear on left, moose on right
Crest (currently the crowned lion): a beaver holding a maple leaf
Shield: divided into three sections by an upside-down Y shape: in the first section, a white pine on red, yellow and black; in the second section, a grey inukshuk on white; in the third section, a white Metis infinity symbol on blue
Compartment (the very bottom, currently occupied by flowers): rippling water
Yes
Polar Bear is badass! if Canada doesn't swipe the imagery, I'm pretty sure Alaska's gonna call dibs at some point - it's too badass to ignore.
1:51 actually they say the Unicorn is dangerous when it's loose... And that's why it's chained up
"The coat of arms of Canada which is quite a hideous abomination." -J. J.
I bet that's how his parents feels about him.
This guy Do you mean you
"The McCullough design is hereby approved."
When he said “every country has one”, that peaked my interest and I just had to Google image search “United States coat of arms”.
Definitely nothing I hadn’t seen before, but I never really connected the dots that that’s what it was-probably because we call it the Great Seal or something weird like that. I guess the founding fathers associated the phrase “coat of arms” with the British monarchy or something.
The official coat of arms of the United States is simply the design that's inside the Great Seal ( rb.gy/qwib7g ). Like the Canadian coat of arms it still follows European heraldic tradition, but it's far simpler with only four elements (escutcheon, supporter, crest, motto) as opposed to Canada's seven (escutcheon, supporters, crest, torse, order, motto, compartment). Plus its armiger is the country of the United States while the armiger of Canada's coat of arms is the Queen of Canada.
Me too
I googled "coat of arms of bangladesh" and saw the national emblem of Bengal bruh
I guess the tern "coat of arms" is for constitutional monarchies
By coat of arms he meant logos of Nations some call it cost of arms some call it seal some call it state emblem or national emblem.
Some countries call it coat of arms as their emblem follows the rules of heraldry and if I am not wrong usually European countries and many of their former colonies have coat of arms .
@@conserztasfia0078
No the term coat of arms is used when it follows rules of heraldry.
Some countries do not follow so they call their symbol has national emblem or seal eg. India , Bangladesh, Japan , China etc.
The coat of arms is *ALREADY* very very *GREAT* !!!!
Go away with that British nonsense
@@currently7886 being cultured is considered awful now great let me guess none of your ancestors fought any wars against America and paid in blood for canada sovreignity did they , the people who saved this country and made this country chose this COAT OF ARMS
IT SHALL STAY THIS WAY UNTIL THE END OF TIME .
@@ryanhuntrajput474 My ancestors. Bruh. Not only have my ancestors been in Canada for hundreds of years, but they also fought in many wars for Canada. Indeed 3 of my immediate family members are in the military now.
What are you on against?
@@currently7886 o really and you still want to abolish all the regalia symbolism and nostalgic british and french memorabilia which reminds us of great history culture and heritage how could you possibly condemn and denigrate the exact ideology which brought prosperity wealth and peace to the north you do realise if you're not lying your ancestors fought to prevent republicanism and corporate take over of a country by fighting wars for the british or french and now you want sell our sovreignity for a couple of dollars it's our identity to be a constitutional monarchy and association with the French without them we are just another USA.
You should Be proud of who you are be proud of being a Canadian .🇨🇦
@@ryanhuntrajput474 Easy. The Christian worldview is subjective and is in now way the absolute truth as absolute truth is unavailable to us as humans. We need to do away with a divinely appointed monarch and likewise the institutions that gain their power from it. Instead the power should be granted to the people by the people themselves. The symbols of the British history are entangled in a religious world view that does not hold up under scrutiny. As it pertains to the CoA, Canada being an independent nation should have one that represents Canada and the goals of Canadians rather than supporting a historic sovereign.
Claim the sovereignty coupled with its own identity.
1:14 "And at the bottom there are 3 Maple Leafs" **LEAFS**
Are you a filthy Torontonian?
Drowsy Sailor oh God, they’ve brainwashed me!
Drowsy Sailor He From Van City
You got some ‘splaining to do, J.J.!
Moose and beaver as the animals, maple leaf, totem pole, Quebec symbol, maybe a Gaelic symbol (Atlantic provinces) and perhaps a Mountie riding in the middle of it all.
How come French- and Gaelic-Canadians get symbols but not English-Canadians? They're the majority after all
I couldn't think of a good English Canadian symbol. Thought the maple leaf was that.
I don't like the idea of a coat of arms having "ethnic" symbols in a country as diverse as Canada. That's not what Canada is about. Aboriginal symbols are different, because they represent the history of the land.
Then could British and French symbols be a different thing, since they have a lot of history in Canada? Also, I might have a bit of a weird perspective on this stuff since I come from Florida, and our flag has the flag of a long-dead empire in it.
Shovlaxnet J.J.'s coat of arms beaver and moose remind me of Handy and Lumpy (both from HTF) respectively.
Your version of the coat of arms is oh so much better.
I love flags and even though the canadian coat of arms isn't a flag it sets of so many alarms
The reason the unicorn is chained up is to show that the scottish kings were so strong and powerful that they could tame the untameable unicorn
I love how you changed your channel logo. Keep up the good work man.
We must not forget that Canada has a monarchy, a monarch whose Coat of Arms happens to represent the UK as well. Let us remember: Canada's Coat of Arms is more about its allegiance to the Queen than it is to British history. The Union Jack is flown around Canada to commemorate our membership of the Commonwealth, our monarchy, and yes, also our British history.
In fairness, JJ is on record against the Canadian monarchy, so take that as you will.
Canada's current COAT OF ARMS is the BEST !!!! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇬🇧🇬🇧
Your suggested coat of arms is a lot like Australia's--taking the UK coat of arms to acknowledge its historical ties, and adapting it with local animals and symbols. They should do it!
I think we should also represent the founding races:
- The Aboriginals;
- The English;
- The French.
The Amerindians weren't founders, just the English and the French. Canada is Anglo-French and should stay that way.
There is as much difference between the aboriginal nations as there is between the French, English, Breton, Scottish, Irish and Basque historical settlers.
Flawless Binary ah yes the five races of the world, black,white, asian, English and French.
Why French? We're talking about humans here.
Vick Nad That would make sense if the First Nations were still the majority
I actually really, really like JJ’s design (less is more as regards heraldic design, to put it simply).
Although I’d put the totem pole on a helmet (as it’s above the shield, it would be the crest of the coat of arms, which is properly put upon a helmet, but often omitted).
where is your mustachio? :(
Tee Rex he shaved it off.
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I'm more of a traditionalist and wouldn't want to see a change, BUT JJ's coat of arms is very clever!
I like J.J.'s, with one addendum: put the Crown at the top. :D Anyway, the problematic thing about the current one isn't so much that it has imperial roots, but that the British symbols far outweigh the other elements in it. Canada purports to be bilingual with three "founding nations" (the British, the French, and the First Nations). There is nothing signifying the First Nations, and the references to the French (the fleur-de-lis) are clearly thrown in as a mere token in the mix rather than given an equal presence as a founding nation. The national balance portrayed (between the English & the Scots) is definitely more relevant to the UK rather than Canada.
It's say its the best coat of arms after the British coat of arms.
Oh and by the way, the unicorn isn't chained up, the chain is broken.
U look handsome without the moustache
Oh, you.
I believe the design looks great.
The things id change is:
-Removing the scottish and irsh symbols and replacing them with native symbols.
-Replacing the Lion with a Moose
-Replacing the Unicorn with a Horse
-Replacing the top Lion with a Beaver
Horses aren't native to Canada
@@JensontheBasterd so what?
big amblem showing moose and a banner saying "Sorry eh!" on a maple leaf cover
😂😂😂 so true.
The shield is called an escutcheon, it's the most important part of a coat of arms, the eponymous _arm,_ i.e., weapon. Historically, a coat of arms was part of what the modern world calls _dress blues_ - i.e., military formal-wear. The various animals and other emblems on a traditional coat of arms all hold specific meanings, and were generally meant to represent someone's achievements and/or heritage, particularly insofar as they answer two questions: "who are you?" and "why should I care?"
France was never owned by England?
Cucumber Man yes but England didn't control ALL of france only half of it
Geneva Mapping yes that's right! Normandy and parts of Brittany was owned by England back in the 1300-1400s but they eventually lost it because of the Hundred Years' War. Also not half, more like an eighth
More like "French kingdom of England" at this time
I really believe that the model of coat of arms that you've presented is just perfect! The maple leaf is always mandatory for me in this case. Maybe I would change the bieber for a lion, and I would add a few fleur-de-lys, so the French and English origins would still be present, remembering that Canada is a country were a lot of cultural facts mixture. But it is true that your model would be always better than the actual one, because yours speaks more about Canada lifestyle and culture than the official one.
That coat of arms has symbolism that has extremely importiant meaning to canada. Your coat of arms has no history in it, but it has 2 animals that live there. Great. Canadian history makes us who we are weather we like it or not. And as a matter of fact, name somthing on the “old” coat of arms that doesn’t have to do with canada
Basic everything, but for historic purpose keep the format change the bearers and the shields heraldic symbols to include the canadian provinces like they used to in the old days
The beaver isn't just an animal that lives here. It's been a prominent Canadian symbol for a very long time, largely because the insanely lucrative trade in beaver fur was responsible for much of the early exploration of the country.
You think the beaver has no relevance to Canadian history? Seriously? Beavers were the main reason the interior of the country was first explored by Europeans.
Yeah it's not like the country was pretty much colonized for the beaver trade no relevance to Canada at all.
@@andrewmoore7022 exactly
The Unicorn also represented France. France and Scotland have that symbol in common, mostly through inter-marriage of their nobilities, and because Scotland was France's historical ally. Fun fact: there were scots on both sides of the battle of Québec, which pitted french troops and canadian militia against scottish highlanders and english troops, on a field owned by a former scotsman. Among the canadian militia were immigrants from scotland, bretony and other parts of the french-allied political sphere.
Tbh I think Canada's coat of arms look kinda cool
Part of me would like to see a new coat of arms and part of me doesn't because the coat of arms is one of the last major things we still have that represents our British heritage, and since we've lost so much of our British symbols it would be nice to keep at least one thing that shows our history.
You can always read books on history instead of keeping them intact in your government, Canada isn’t a colony anymore, the fact that Canada’s national
Animal(the beaver) isn’t even on its own coat arms speaks volumes of how outdated it is
I am a hobbyist who is interested in heraldry. Most of the terms used in this video were downright wrong and inaccurate.
A coat of arms refers not only to a "country's logo" but any armorial achievement that can be borne by individuals, corporations, municipalities, etc. Most of the elements of the shield that you pointed out, including the "lion" and "weird helmet" and "flowers" have names, respectively the "supporters", "helm", and "compartment". While I do agree the Canadian coat of arms isn't the best national coat and could definitely be improved, please do your research before making another video that concerns heraldry.
At 2:06. France was never owned by England. England owned parts of France and tried to take over ALL of France in the Hundred Years' War. But the French fought fiercely so that the English could never do so. That's why there are French national heroes like Joan of Arc, etc. It was during this loooong ass war that the French came to hate the English and vice-versa. That being said, the English kings never gave up their claim to the French throne and stubbornly stuck that claim into their official coat of arms. Hence the three fleur de lis. I believe it was only during the reign of King George IV that the personal coat of arms of the British monarch FINALLY got rid of that childish claim to the French throne. But the official coat of arms of Canada never made that switch apparently.
Had to take my break right now to watch this... Worth it...
Scotland wasnt conquered by England - they mutually entered a union.
"Abuut" oh that hurts to hear. - About.
Scotland was not conquered. It’s own King inherited the English crown bringing unification of the two kingdoms under a common Sovereign. This was followed by political, legal and economic unification in 1707 which was ratified by the pre-Union Scottish Parliament and separately the English Parliament.
0:35
J.J. : Every country has a coat of arms.
*Cries in Turkish*
Lol Turkey just used the Cresent to replace it right!
I'm into the one you drew.
Maybe add some poutine, a bottle of maple syrup, have the beaver holding a hockey stick, the moose with a lacrosse stick (used in Canada's *actual* official sport), a stubby bottle, and a pot leaf
As a Canadian, I'd like my 5 mins back.
I don't know why so many Canadians reject our British influence. My family in Alberta loves the Red Ensign, and our coat of arms because they somewhat consider Canada British.
"I don't know why so many Canadians reject our British influence." *Has German flag as profile picture*
It's not the same without the moustache.
You just did a Canadian version of the Australian arms - kangaroo and emu (EEM-YOO), state shields packed into one shield, wattle, federal star, etc.
France is in the flag because they used to own Canada before Britain
No the french parts are in the british flag because during the angevin kingdom the Uk owned like 3/4 of france
Your five second design is perfect. And don't add anything else to it. The maple leaf is the land (and since it reflects the one-people-one-symbol thing of the flag, it is also the symbol of the people), the animals are tokens of the unique nature of Canada, and the totem pole a nod to all of the First Nation members, you have it all. Nothing else needed.
I really like Nunavut's coat of arms, which your drawing kinda reminded me of. I like how they ditched the British-style shield shape and used a lot of First Nations imagery. Plus one if the shield bearers is a narwhal.
I like the idea of replacing the lion and unicorn with the moose and beaver (like Australia's kangaroo and emu). That being said, I like the rest of it and would leave it as is.
I like the old one because I'm British
I think something referencing the French Canadians, British Canadians and Natives would be good with a few maple leaves here and there
There's something that has always bothered me about the Coat of Arms that nobody ever seems to point out, the Union Jack is backwards for some reason! I get that it may make sense because of how it is positioned, but it has annoyed me for a very long time, and I don't know why.
Maybe because it hangs sinister and points left, while the French one hangs dexter and points right.
It is correct, you are seeing it from behind. Left side to the pole, same on official vehicles with flags on the front.
Add an element from each of the provinces. A dogwood flower from BC, a wild rose from Alberta, that big stone tower from Nunavut, a trillium from Ontario, etc.
England never conquered Scotland. Scotland effectively conquered England via joining of the crown.
As an Australian with a coat of arms filled with emus, kangaroos and a shield with the badge of each of Australia's 6 states I feel that Canada has, whilst a cool coat of arms - a very dated coat of arms.
Canada must be very proud of British History, after all Canada is rich today because of Britain. May British monarchy reign Canada until the world ends.
The British coat of arms doesn’t have any Fleur de Lis. It has the yellow lioms for England, a red lion for Scotland, a harp for Ireland and smaller yellow lions for Whales
I like the Canadian coat of arms, and I think the symbols make sense as historical and cultural influences but ... yours is WAY better. If you made merch with that on it, I'd buy it all.
People are saying that we should remove all British symbols. But what should we add instead? Represent the Indigenous people who only make up 5% of the Canadian population? No! Keep the historical British symbols that mean so much to me and countless other fellow Canadians.
Australia's the best one
ya cause it actually has animals native to auz, thats why ours should have a moose, or beaver, or polar bear etc
Masticatious stfu
no america has best 1(exuse my english im sweedish)
No, actually the Italian one is much better.
Actually 'The Republic' from Star Wars has the best.
Your past self is lucky. He hasn't seen what's yet to come. Now the crown has a Star of David replacing the cross.
Definitely an improvement! The star is used by Jews, but it has no religious meaning! It is simply a neutral symbol that Jews use in lieu of a cross or crescent.
Canada is Scottish, Irish, English and French as thats how it was settled. Our Arms make perfect sense.
Well Canada is a British country... I like it, it acknowledges our heritage.
Why have a lion and a unicorn on the coat of arms when there are no lions in Canada and there are no unicorns anywhere...
Jarl Ballin' did u even watch the video?
Yes sir
Jarl Ballin'
Your profile picture (The "Are You Kidding Me" Face) goes very well with your comment.
There are no lions in England either...
I like our coat of arms. Canada was founded by the British, our institutions and everything we like about our nation is in part thanks to the British and the countries that make up the UK. Including France. To ignore all that is ignoring our heritage and what differentiates us from the Americans. Well that and we're less crazy... Over weight and gun happy. But I diregress, Retaining the few vestiges we have of the British reminds us of where we came from, how we became the nation we are today and in a way shows a sign of respect to the country and it's people who helped make it all happen.
I liked your new coat of arms you made :D
im American and ashamed....my grandfather was a WWI canadian soldier who won the kings cross...i love canada....you should too....love your country JJ...you're so lucky
So many mistakes. JJ, please do proper research next time and don't give such a biased version of Canadian history.
1. The chains on the unicorn do not represent England's "conquest" of Scotland, which is btw not an accurate way to describe how England and Scotland were united anyway. Unicorns are traditionally chained in heraldry, as a sort of symbol of the bearer's strength - a unicorn is legendarily wild and untameable, so if you actually managed to tame it, you must be very powerful.
2.The other parts on the UK shield do not represent other parts of the 'British Empire', they represent other parts of BRITAIN. Since France was no longer claimed when Canada was formed in 1921, its inclusion on the Canadian arms couldn't possibly be symbolising ownership over France. Obviously, therefore, it represents French Canadians, one of the founding peoples of Canada, while the other parts represent English, Scottish, and Irish Canadians.
3. FFS, Canada wasn't a colony in 1921. It was a Dominion, which by that time essentially meant it was independent, a position formalised just a few years after that. Why can't you accept that many Canadians at the time still saw Britain as the mother country and felt a special tie to it, but were nonetheless independent members of the Empire, like Australia, New Zealand, and Ireland? It's perfectly understandable that you don't see that legacy as relevant anymore, but that doesn't mean that it has "nothing to do" with Canada - clearly, it's pretty central to Canada's history, and moreover it's a heritage that was celebrated way past the point at which Canada effectively was fully independent, not something that existed only when Canada was a colony and has now gone away because Canada is now independent.
I do actually like your design, it's a lot more like Australia, which used native animals and such (adopted soon after Australia federated into one Dominion just like Canada - apparently them being a "colony" as you wrongly termed it did not stop them from strongly asserting a more independent identity while maintaining the same loyalty to the 'mother country' as Canada). Would be nice to also represent the provinces. However, I also like the current coat of arms, most importantly because I don't think a country's historical legacy and where it came from have nothing to do with it - it's actually much stranger for a country to turn its back on its past and the basis for its foundation (which in Canada's case, the preamble of the constitution states quite clearly). Certainly, this doesn't have to be represented in the coat of arms, as Australia, NZ, and others show, but it's not a bad thing either. Perhaps Canada's coat of arms overdoes it, I could agree with that - a compromise solution could be to change the supporters (the animals on either side) with Canadian animals as you propose in your version.
"The chains actually signify that the unicorn cannot be oppressed, since the chains are broken and, if reattached to anything, will be broken again. The unicorn with the chain has been used as a Scottish royal symbol since long before the union with England."
www.heraldry.ca/misc/coatArmsCanada.htm
Well if you want to be technical, Ireland wasn't independent at all in 1921. And probably you could argue no dominion was in effect until the Statute of Westminster in 1931.
Regarding Ireland, you're right, dominion status officially only took effect the following year. Regarding dominions, the term 'dominion' was one that dates at least to Canada's Confederation in 1867. Though its meaning evolved over time, it was from the beginning always meant to be a state of greater independence than a 'colony'. It's pretty clear that by 1921, if not earlier, it had come to mean virtually independent with the main exception of foreign affairs, hence Ireland in 1921 was granted 'dominion' status. This meaning of dominion was formalised and enhanced into complete independence with the statute of Westminster. Legally speaking, yes, dominion status was officially, de jure, still much more like being a colony with Britain still being able to make laws for dominions etc., but as with so many things in the British constitution, what's on paper is not a perfect representation of reality. For example, when did Britain become a parliamentary system instead of a monarchy, with the prime minister really being chosen by and responsible to parliament instead of the monarch? On paper, Britain (as well as Australia and Canada) are still fully monarchies. In reality, though, they're obviously parliamentary systems.
I think it should be kinda like yours but the shield should have the provinces and territories of Canada on it, maybe some symbols representing the provinces and territories? And then have the Canadian Maple leaf at the top
Love your videos! Keep it up!
The fleur-de-lis was removed from the British coat of arms in 1801. The one on the Canadian coat of arms represents Quebec. The Scots just like their unicorns in chains. It has nothing to do with conquest. The English used financial and trade pressure to force the Scots into a union in 1707. The Scots had lost their money in the Darien Scheme in 1700, so the country was financially vulnerable.
Just a maple leaf on a shield,it's simple and cool in my opinion
I was thinking we could have the national animal (Beaver) in the middle of a shield in the middle of the coat of arms, and under the beaver the national motto. Then we could have moose on either side and 2 hockey sticks which are handle to handle on the bottom. Maple leaves could line the top like tinsel almost. Maybe we could also incorporate Tim Hortons, maple syrup and poutine too..... probably not though aha. I also really like the idea Lancer011 had. :). I'm not sure I have an opinion about removing the hints to our British/ French history, though.
You don’t think it’s maybe because... Canada was made by Britain? 😮😮😮
The Coat of Arms is fine, you on the other hand...
Canada is a nation of British heritage, don’t change it... please.
RANDOM NAME Beavers and Totem Poles represent Canada more than a Lion and Unicorn. Australia has more of a British heritage but they have their own animals as a coat of arms.
Canada as made by Britain in 1867 3.5 Million
Canada as made by Canadians in 2020 ~38 Million
Keep the Roman Empire's symbols because Europe was made by Rome, please don't change it. Bruh...
Canada was named by a French Explorer
This video is wrong, the unicorn is chained up because chaining a unicorn was seen as the greatest achievement a Scottish king could achieve, it is not seen as a symbol was English supremacy especially due to the fact that the concept was prominent in Scotland long before Britain was established. 1:50