He's speaking bullshit. I don't want to insult you in any way, but I'm going to preventively advise you to RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN if you are interested in the problem. Sorry if my english is bad
The Québécois are nothing like the French, seriously. We have an affinity with them due to our shared language, but our culture is more different than it is similar. Apart from immigrants from France, no one identifies as French in Québec similar to how Anglo-Canadians don't call themselves British.
@@TacticalAnt420 But now, all of France has adopted the oïl language, it's nothing unique. Sure, there is a few very old expression and words that have stuck around, but it's the same language. That means French Canadians have a slightly easier time understanding old works of art such as Molière.
It would be super crazy if the english-speaking minority within Quebec had their own seperatist movement that turned into violent protests, and wanted to take a section of quebec that was predominately english-speaking and break off from the rest of quebec to form their own english sub-province... How ironic would *_THAT_* be...
JJ: Quebec makes Canadian politics weird. Me, a Spaniard: *Laughs in Catalonian and Basque Separatism, as well as half a dozen other regionalist movements*
@@scorpioninpink Spain may nominally be a unitary state, but Autonomous Communities have as much power as any federal province unless article 155 is put into action, which only ever happened once. However, the real power of regionalist and separatist parties come from their seats on the Central Congress and the amount of negotiating power they have in our fractured multi party system
Separatist movements arise when a province's culture and language begins to be oppressed (or when one of the richest provinces of the country, like Catalunya, doesn't seem to reap the same benefits from the government as the rest of Spain... but we're talking about Canada here, so I digress). In these situations, wouldn't countries be more united if they actively recognize and teach ALL of their country's official languages in other provinces? In Canada, why don't schools mandate the teaching of French throughout primary education since it is such an important language in their country? In Spain, it might be a little harder to teach all four languages to all citizens, but it should definitely be an option, especially for Catalan, which is widely spoken by all of Catalunya, Valencia, and the Islas Baleares. I personally think bilingualism enriches a country's culture and political system, rather than takes away from it. The problem is when a country's government does not support it- that is when separatist movements gain popularity.
Mod Maker well actually as a Canadian we Canadian learn French Quebec and they are different from French from France but the only difference I’m pretty sure is the expression
Mod Maker but I do agree because most people in Quebec and from Quebec are jerks to us they are apart of Canada and yet when you ask them if they are Canadian they will say no I am from Quebec of course not all of them are like that but lot of them are and there is always a fight between English speakers and French speakers and the rest of Canada has to learn French and we do complain about it because it does makes sense to because Quebec is the only place in Canada where you have to speak French besides the government but in Quebec people complain about having to learn English like why the rest of us speaks English so it would make sense for them to learn it but they get mad about it if they do not want to speak English then why should we speak French
I went to Quebec as a field trip for my French class, I live in New York so it was a big deal and we spent two weeks there. It was a strange place, we went during carnival which was awesome. My French teacher told us that if you speak English to a store clerk in Quebec, they will oftentimes pretend that they don't speak English out of spite. Does anyone know if that's actually true? The biggest thing that I remember about the trip is that I went from having a passable version of French that worked in a school context to being able to speak French nearly fluently by the time I got back from Quebec in just two weeks. That was amazing to me.
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Bilingualism is most prevalent in Montreal and store clerks will definitely try their best to answer you in English, even if you try to approach them in broken French. If you went to the Quebec City carnival however, then many older folks there and elsewhere in the province tend to only speak French. Good job on your immersion field trip, real-life practice is a great way to rapidly feel comfortable with a new language!
In Montreal, most people will answer you in the language you're using (French or English). Outside of Montreal, proficiency in English falters. About your question: if the person realizes that you are a tourist, pretty much nobody will try to be a pain in your ass for not speaking French. You will get no such problem in most touristic destinations, too. If someone perceives you as a Quebecer who's lived here all his life and hasn't bothered learning the language, then yeah, you'll get annoyed responses and people might start ignoring you. It would be like an American refusing to learn English, but sticking with Spanish only. That is perceived as a lack of respect towards our culture (and it often was a sign of disrespect, as French was the "language of poor uneducated people with no culture").
> Quebec : i want to be independent. > Canada : No, please stay we love you please please stayyy > Quebec : okay, I'll sta- > Canada : *Complains about Quebec*
Lemme fix that for you > Quebec : i want to be independent. > Canada : Well if you really want to l- > Quebec : We're keeping your money, want to use your international connections, demand a discount on trade... > Canada : No... ...please stay... ...we... ..uh... ..."love" you... > Quebec : *Is Quebec*
@@megan2484 Creative license, y'know the thing you also used? The government didn't drop to it's knees begging Quebec to stay and the English citizens of Canada knew you weren't going anywhere assuming they even cared. Quebec wants to "leave" like a millennial leaves home by moving into the basement.
At the time of Laurier French Canadians considered themselves "canadiens" while most of the rest of English Canada considered themselves British subjects. Fun fact.
It's not that simple though. Many English Liberal supporters were also anti-imperialists, Mackenzie King aggressively supported a rapprochement with the Americans and a distancing from the British, which was a common sentiment amongst many in Ontario. Likewise, there was a movement of civic nationalism in Quebec which sought to promote the Quebecois as good British subjects, as Conservatives did manage to elect premiers in Quebec until the early 20th century. Quebec even had an anglo premier for 1 year. During the Laurier years it happened that many of the anglos in Canada were born in the UK or had direct familial ties to England, but English imperial ties were less popular amongst Loyalist descendants who increasingly viewed the US as more in line with Canadian values.
Canada was already a country by the time Wilfrid Laurier was in charge, English Canadians saw themselves as Canadian, the National anthem had already been adopted by this time too.
@@tylersmith3139 1867 doesn't mark a sharp change in peoples' attitudes. Canadians went into that idiotic European war (WWI) immediately on Britain's side. National anthem? I remember attending hockey games at the Montreal Forum in the early sixties where they played both national anthems, God Save the Queen and O'Canada (both the Union Jack and the Red Ensign were flown). Getting out of short pants was a long time for Canada.
@@floxy20 You clearly know nothing about Canadian history, of course it wasn't a sharp turn, Canada wouldn't have been a country if it was a sharp turn, it was growing identification of being Canadian and wanting representation as such that brought people to strive for Canadian independence from Britain (which Anglophones, not Francophones fought for) God save the Queen isn't our national anthem and that rarely happens. There may have been a foreign team, plus Canada was a dominion until 1982, we had to go to war, plus it's ironic how Quebecois love to talk about their pride for being French, but when France was being invaded by Germany in WW1, they didn't care about defending their heritage and it was an "English war". It was Quebecois who don't see themselves as Canadians, they're the only ones who've tried to leave and Canadian independence was largely fought for by English, from 1867, Canada began being more and more independent, hell we're the ones who created the flag we use today for supposedly people who don't feel Canadian, hell Canada as a country was created for greater independence from Britain and was mostly fought for by English Canadians, it was the Quebecois who don't feel Canadian, you're identity is so fickle, it's literally just based on language, you guys try to say you're Canadian while feeling the least Canadian, you act like you're so different from the rest of Canada while having the same religion, having the exact same origin as fur traders and speaking French, a language in which 1/3 of English words come from, not to mention most English words were come from romance languages, which French is one, so much for a "distinct culture". Let's face it, it's ironic for Quebecois people to say they identify more with a country Anglophones created and fought for way more than Anglophones do, hell we constantly have to appease you guys to stay in Canada, how is that Canadian patriotism? You guys are the least patriotic and always have been, don't act as if you're more Canadian because you have a word for Canadian, I've never heard a Quebecois person call themselves Canadian, meanwhile Anglophones have been calling themselves that since Canada was created. Britain was seen as our heritage because we were former British colonies, 1867 onwards, Anglophones here considered themselves Canadian and were proud to have a country of their own, unlike Quebecois who considered themselves Quebecois and barely identified as Canadian.
@@bouchacourtthierry8506 of course, just as you can be Scottish and English at the same time. I have Cajun, Creole, and Quebecois ancestry, though I identify most with my Cajun heritage.
@@thekingofmoab1181 ... thank you ..I mean "cajuns" came from the deported acadiens ...and "créoles" was the word used to design the king of France subjects born abroad the kinkown ...so Cajuns was a minority very specific and Créoles an another minority (european original Settlers in Louisiana ...that was, on those Times all mid-west) and all become US citizens ... Québequers ...Accediens from New Brunswick ...french canadians (canadiens) are three others specific communauties ...but perhaps in Louisiana ...Cajuns and Créoles melt (I don't now) ...
I went to Quebec City and Montreal a few weeks ago...during the election. The people there were pretty friendly and respectful. I really wish I could speak French fluently, I felt like an ass speaking only English to them. It would be my 3rd language but the more languages you know the better.
May i recommend you to take a look at "Do you need french to live in Montréal" by The New Travel, and to take a look to the comment section. You'll immediately notice a completely different dynamic from this comment section, with tons of Québécois actually praising that dude from Manitoba. The reason is simple: we get defensive when we feel attacked, but when you actually try to understand our side of the medal we get super friendly super fast almost by default. This comment section is a direct result of J.J's smear campaign and close-mindedness.
I actually spent a couple af months in Montreal, and everybody there would always SWITCH TO ENGLISH when I would speak French. They could pick up my Anglo-Albertan accent I suppose.
It amuses me that as someone who actually is bilingual in English and French I'm more qualified than most Canadians to serve in a government position, despite being American.
Yes you are specifically because in Canada especially the English speaking provinces have limited French language services such as in Ontario, Saskatchewan, Alberta or New foundland and Labrador. I myself in order for me to be promoted to higher echelons of the military I must be bilingual.
We could use you. Become a mandarin in the upper levels of the Civil Service. Interface with corporate types. Many people of the American race have immigrated to Canada. My father was one of them.
J. J. Is taking shortcuts. You don’t need to know French in most government jobs in Canada. If you do you get a pay check bonus. He is referring to a High profile political function. But then again it’s not a law. It’s caused by the political weight of the whole French community in Canada. If you want French peoples to vote for you, you need to be able to tell them why...
I feel like from British Columbia, you don't really understand how life in Québec is. The problem is we do not agree on our vision of Canada. The country is how it is now because there is no way Québec would have stayed in the federation if it had been your way (as it chose to stay by 50,6% in 1995). I am an immigrant living in Montréal and we understand that French is part of the local culture. Chineses and Italians who come here have to learn French because it is the local language. English is special though, and there are English schools, cegeps and universities for English Canadians because they are not immigrants in their own country. I think most Québécois would expect the same treatment elsewhere in Canada even if like you say, BC is more Chinese or Italian than French Canadian. I would not expect anyone in BC to have to learn French. But I would expect someone who wants to work at the top of government to have to learn English and French, because all Canadians speak one of these two languages. The way you talk about Canadian culture being an equal mix of all immigrants cultures is not how we see it here. We see a common Québec culture that immigrants like me are invited to join and contribute to. We call that «pluriculturalisme» as opposed to multiculturalism. I don't think multiculturalism is wrong, but the way it puts the local culture on the same foot as others isn't the best for integration, and would aggravate racism problems in places with a strong and proud cultural nationalism like Québec and most of Europe. I disagree with CAQ's politics on immigration, but I don't see them as racist, although it could look like it from BC where nationalism like that doesn't seem to exist from what I can infer. Maybe BC and Québec should be in two different countries so both solitudes are both equally represented, but I think most Canadians (and Québécois) are satisfied with how it is right now and that's why the country is still united, politically at least.
As a Chinese I feel like my people have unfortunately taken a very crucial role in this. I visited Canada from Toronto to Montreal, and understood a little bit. Quebec to Canada is probably like the Northeast to the US. It was the first 'Canadian' part to be developed. Cities like Montreal was already highly developed while Toronto and most of Ontario wasn't. In fact, the very beginning of Ontario is 'loyalism', which is still reflected in their flag (with a British jack on the corner), their motto (just search it yourself) and even their license plate (with a crown in the middle). I can feel that the people in Quebec probably don't like the idea of being a subject to the British monarch that much? (Or, you just don't want to be considered anything 'British' or 'Anglo/English'?) Just watched the flag debate, some people are saying that the new flag united people in Quebec and discouraged secessionism, and I found it pretty... At least it's not nonsense. Literally, the Union Jack is flown proudly everywhere in Toronto, along with their provincial one, the Maple leaf, and sometimes the American Star Spangled Banner. In Montreal it's completely different. There are a lot of Canadian maple leaves, yes, and also not uncommon for the US ones (which I don't understand why), and even more provincial flag. However, I rarely see a union jack... And we all know that now, Toronto, ON has replaced Montreal, QC as the largest city in Canada. Vancouver, BC and its surroundings are also catching up quickly. The takeover by Toronto happened in 1970s, and matching the demographics, it really is immigrants, especially Asian ones (who were much more overwhelmingly anglophone, or even Anglophilic). In some ways it makes English the more dominant language within Canada. And the worst part is, it has nothing to do with Francophone communities or Anglophone communities in Canada. It was caused mainly by British and French policies, literally. Do you know what's the largest bank headquartered in the UK? It's HSBC, H stands for Hong Kong, S stands for Shanghai. It's a bank with huge Chinese roots. You can see how powerful British influence is, or at least was, through some of its networks (banks, etc.). France seems to be in worse luck (most of its colonies yet to be stabilized and developed) and don't have anything close in place. Or it was because Canada AS A WHOLE was already tied with the British more... And America, de facto Anglophone (and if there's a 'second language' spoken in the US it's Spanish instead of French) rose as the sole superpower didn't help... Anyways hopefully things are getting better. Just like you said a lot of newcomers are now destined for Quebec. The Canadian government is encouraging that. A lot of these people has formed a pretty unique identity and integrated well with the local people, and accepting and creating Francophone based local culture...
Did you realize 16 to 20% of the money your province generates comes in the form of money handouts from English Canada, (mostly Alberta)? We pay your bills!! Quebec is satisfied because they get money from us. Google Equalization payments to Quebec total. You will get a sum of billions that will stagger your imagination. We pay your bills because of identity politics. Do you understand I am saying Quebec is on 'welfare?' That's what equalization payments are. They've been receiving billions regularly since the 1970s. If you have a government job in B.C. you need French. A baggage handler needs French in B.C.
When I speak French, it's very apparent that English is my native language. Responses in Quebec are either 1) immediately switch to English, 2) happily try to converse in French as much as possible, or 3) pretend they have no idea what I am saying, which is really annoying when I know what I am saying is correct.
@Swann Leipälä When you have 300 million people to converse with on this continent - and your language is the world's lingua franca - you never really need to learn another language.
South east u mean asia?? Cause I'm from Nepal and I know three languages Nepali English Hindi(India) Asians tend to be bilingual at average cause English is a given and their naitve language
@@TheWhale45 Don't know your problem with people trying to learn languages😂. Like you are no wizard and people not learning languages isnt going to make the world a better place.
@@airsoftalgerie3302 a creole is not a language per se, but the result of mixing two languages together in a functional way. You could have a Spanish-Brazilian Creole, French-English Creole, etc. Because the Southeast US was settled by the Spanish, French and eventually British, it would make sense that the sort of "Cajun" Creole we think of in the States might have a little Spanish mixed in as well.
J.J. : "[French] is a language spoken by a rather small proportion of this planet" *Proceeds by showing a graph that only take into account first language speakers* I see what you did there.
But isn’t the argument that if French to be recognised as on a equal plane to English, it would be useful for it to be a major language for L1 speakers. If you were to put a graph of L2 languages, I am sure English would out weigh French but a lot.
It’s worth noting L2 speakers particularly in Africa and Middle East its like the second fastest growing language in the world and spoken by 220 million ish.
@@kiwi1lad If you look at total speakers, native and secondary, french is 10th in the world and English is second. Mandarin is first. But if you exclude strong regional languages (I.E, a single region with a billion people that all speak the same language, like Chine, India, ect) French is one of the most diversely spoken languages and jumps a bit higher in the rankings.
4:15 : mispronouncing French just for the sake of being disrespectful. Why? I'm an anglophone raised in Quebec, and most of us just want to get along. Just showing a basic degree of respect to one another goes a long way.
*Andrew, your positive attitude is greatly appreciated. If everyone had your open mind, it would be heaven on earth. Anglophones like you who know how to adapt to the Québec society by uniting with Francophones without animosity, that's true living together.*
@AlexNOSAM but the English were not forced to leave and putting a 2/3 french vs 1/3 English sign in front of your business is not exactly the image of repression.
@@ocost3000 they did not, they just made sure you could speak your language in the workplace. English were imposing English on the workplace (everyone was French except the bosses)
I don't entirely agree with this. As an immigrant who lives in Quebec, I have felt at times that the obsession with the French language was annoying, but I understand why. I don't think it's fair to compare other minorities to French Canadian minorities, since the French have been on this continent for longer than any of us, even English speakers. French heritage is very important in Eastern Canada, I think more than it would be in the west of the country. Quebec just wants to preserve its heritage, history and language and I respect that.
Doffy Rob the French in Canada were conquered by the British, they represent less 20% of Canada, and if immigration continue French will continue to fall, so your argument is completely useless and irrelevant.
CharlyTDM07 No dutch, the other ones you listed are the official languages. But at school and in many workplaces english is slowly becoming one as well. There is a constantly increasing number of expats fron non-neighboring countries. It is also common to learn a fifth language for native Luxembourgers to a beginner level.
I definitely found this video very interesting, being a european. However, we do struggle here in europe with the challenge of english influence on our languages. Language is also culture, identity, history and a tool for communication that grew out of the needs and facts about said culture, identity and history. We do not want to just give up our european languages and switch to english, it does not feel natural at all to us, and we feel that we lose a lot of our culture and history that way. So I can definitely sympathise with the desire to keep french. However, I see your points about french acting like a glass ceiling. Social matters are never always easy. I don't agree that french is impossible to learn however. I had it as a 3rd language in school and I keep finding it useful even if I don't feel proficient enough to speak it, to at least get an idea of what french texts say.
I am all in favor that french is prioritized in where its mainly spoken (but mr Bagguete here feels that its more important, because it feels like it :).
We all have our biases, I admit that. I’m a bilingual American citizen who speaks both English and French fluently. Naturally I am very sympathetic to the québécois mentality and their unique community within greater Canada. I think the first step is to acknowledge the unique history of both British and French colonialization in Canada. Ultimately it was and is British (Anglo) culture that has dominated both North American the political and social scene. But as someone who has both an appreciation for foreign languages (especially French) in a geo-political sense, I think it’s extremely important not to turn a blind eye to the profound impact of French culture and language in the development of North American democracies. And as for biases, it’s obvious that every time someone who makes little to no effort in pronouncing French words or sentences correctly, they clearly have no interest in bridging the gap. I won’t fault you, JJ, for having no interest in learning French. But from personal experience, there is something remarkably special about making an effort to speak the language of the 7 million + Quebeckers who call Canada home. The way their faces light up when you (an anglophone) begin speaking French to them makes the struggle feel almost non worthwhile.
Andrew Fusco This is so true. I am a Québécoise by birth and I am a proud one by that and when you see anglophones speaking French, even if it’s not big or good sentences or everything, we are all really happy because they at least try and respect our culture and languages. So thank you for bringing this up :))
@@lecoureurdesbois86 cutting access to English speakers when nearly the entire first world provides english language services is a great way to kill non-french businesses and foreign investments from non-french speaking companies
@@FireurchinProductionsByzantium How would that really change something? It doesn't change anything for businesses as far as I know, they already have to translate everything and work in French anyway, I don't see the point
LeCoureurDesBois Quebec wants to cut all English services? What else is new? The sun rose in the east this morning? Ontario is still providing French services, even though its French population is less than the English population in Quebec. The real “cutting” should be the partition of Quebec and the founding of a new nation of Canada, separate from the Québécois who consider Canada to be an inferior colony.
@@louisd.8928 Cries in San Francisco, California, Florida, Texas, Nevada, New Mexico, the Philippines and Puerto Rico's Spanish language suppression by the English. All my support to French language ♥️ Latin languages shall prevail.
@@louisd.8928 The English have almost caused all Celtic languages to go extinct, It is understandable how Québeckers think when Anglos have a history of destroying cultures.
@@alfrredd What's the difference between that and the suppression of native languages in the past? Spanish has absolutely zero place in the Philippines. Tagalog is the lingua franca, and being fluent in English is far more beneficial than Spanish
@@manny5372 Of course the English and then the US have influenced the world so much through soft power and straight up war and oppression, that their language has become prevalent and now used like an international language and it's more "beneficial". Back when the US invaded, Tagalog and Spanish were the lingua franca, the US came in and prohibited spanish culture and language from schools implementing US culture and language instead, same happened with Spanish territories in North America, and the Pacific; Puerto Rico is still a colony (since 1898) but thankfully the Spanish language there is really engrained in puerto rican's identities and the US is struggling to have the people forget and erase their customs and national identities.
@@alfrredd the us isn’t struggling to erase Puerto Rican culture or language Bc it isn’t trying, modern day Puerto Rico is largely neglected by the us government, and it hopes the less the government mentions Puerto Rico the more people will forget it still a colonial left over.
The purpose of every Quebec language has been and always will be to diminish and eventually destroy English language institutions and history in Quebec (notice I didn't say language as the language will obviously always be present there).
looes74 looes74 No you can’t. The French has to be bigger than any other language otherwise you get a fine from the language cops. All highway, provincial and municipal signs have to be in French-only unless the anglophone pop is 50% or higher. Like wtf is that? Could you imagine similar in Ontario? The francophone establishment would go nuts. Also, all immigrant children have to attend French public schools even if they come from America just an hour away from the border. This is such an evil and petty policy that was clearly meant to decimate the English public schooling system. They passed the law in such a way that wouldn’t make it obvious do that Quebec can wash itself of responsibility should they no longer exist in the near future.
Even as an English-speaking Western Canadian I can really understand the desire of French Canadians to preserve their language and culture. I think you probably would too if you were in their position. I do agree though that the political classes are incredibly hypocritical in forcing multiculturalism down everyone else's throats but theirs.
Canada is a confederation like Switzerland, why can't we follow the best elements of their system ? I'm French from Québec and I don't think french should be forced down the throat of people outside our province/communities, but we just don't want to be second class citizens in our own coutry. Switzerland has a very decentralized state and a very consensus driven federal state that includes all national languages (including tiny Romansch). That's makes the country bigger as a whole through competition and free trade (I do wish my province was richer than average, that's why we founded and elected CAQ). I think JJ makes it worse and caricaturize us. Harper spoke more than satisfactory french and he tried, no matter how often he screwed up, he was unashamed in telling he cared. it means everything.
Hey J.J. Just discovered your channel and I have to say, as a french spreaking Québec seperatist, I really enjoyed your perspective on the "french thorn in the multiculturality of Canada". Although I don't agree with your conclusions (you think Quebec have it unjustly easy while I think Québec has been getting a raw deal from the ROC for the last 60 years) I agree that Canada is at an impasse that will only get stronger as french-speaking canadians represent a fewer percentage of the canadian population. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the future of canada. My contention is that since the bilingual aspect of Canada is embedded in the constitution and the balance of power most often residres in the hands of Québec on the federal scene, there will necessarily be an escalation of anti-Québec sentiment, which will inevitably lead to Québec leaving Canada. Federeal governments are loathe to open the constitution since the last two major times it did this led to an insane rise in the seperatist movement. And the more the federal parties pander to french nationalists to garner votes, the more english-speaking canadians will feel like the system is rigged. I don't imagine a point where this ends in anything but a fracturing of Canada. What are your thoughts? Love your content. Love to disagree with you!
Le ROC vas juste attendre que le français meurt avant d'agir pour ne pas avoir de problème avec les souverainistes. Les parties indépendantistes sont dans leurs derniers spasmes!
"the balance of power most often residres in the hands of Québec on the federal scene, there will necessarily be an escalation of anti-Québec sentiment, which will inevitably lead to Québec leaving Canada" Eg. Quebec doesn't hold the power in Canada => Quebec leaves. This is quite an entitlement for a minority of the country.
Première fois que j'entend vraiment un canadien anglo dire "a boot" à la place de about. Moi qui croyait que c'était une légende ... Lâche pas garçon, t'as un beau toupet rempli de préjugés. Bisous!
I live in Quebec. I'm one of those chauvinistic French Canadians you're talking about. I couldn't disagree more with the underlying message of your videos and we clearly have opposite political views. But I have to say, to my own dismay, I love your videos. I think I now understand more the perception non-French speakers have of us and to be fair, some of it is legitimate. I do think political roles should be accessible to all, no matter their mother tongue (and by that I mean that they could speak neither of the official languages). I think it all comes down to a matter of point of views. When we are 9 French speakers in a room (I work in video games) and we have to switch to English because of that 10th non-French speaker, it becomes infuriating, because not all are capable of expressing their opinion in an understandable English. I think we just all want to be part of the majority, because being a minority sucks as your reach is limited. We are a majority in Quebec, we behave as such. If you include Canada we then become a minority. When a minority in Quebec has ridiculous demands (Hasidic Jews at the YMCA for example) there is a backlash, just like there is when we have "ridiculous demands" or privileges to the rest of Canada. That also explains why the Quebec Separatist movement had reach outside Quebec, with some Canadians tired of us whiny bitches. But still, here we are. So I disagree with you sir, but I respect you. Have a good day (and to all my fellow Canadians from all horizons) !
JJ do amazing videos, he's very handsome and pleasant to watch (no-mustache JJ)… but when it comes about the Quebec, he display much more hate toward us than almost all of us against the Canada (only his videos make me remember that we're supposedly stuck into in a rageful linguistic war, and that I'm suppose to hate every Canadians... if I'm a "real Quebecer"). It's because of people like him that federalist Quebecers turning against Canada (as they indirectly created/contributed our independentist movements). How could we love a country who hate us that much? The most cynical thing is that he (and others) twisting our provincial prime minister's words (province-first as any other provinces, but also from Quebec federalist parties) to serve their own Canadian interests against the Quebec (federalists shooting at other federalists! Congrats!!)… or they use the "because they are French"(xenophobic) to judge every provincial decisions that they don't agree with.
The only thing that should be illegal is his goddamned toupet. It's like JJ went to the hairdresser and ask for the most condescendant toupet in the world and that reverse mullet is the result.
The issue is that the French canadians never wanted Canada to become this multicultural politically correct country. It's pretty much a clash of ideologies between laicism vs multiculturalism, which somewhat justifies Quebec's arguments. French canadians are not anti-immigration, but against the idea of immigrants coming to their country and telling them what to do. They have always been there first, and simply want to keep their culture safe. On the other end, other cultures arrived here after the British took over and should be expected to conform to how life is like in Canada. The problem was created when the federal governement decided to be so leniant towards new immigrants. It's true that provinces should mirror the ideologies of the federal, but that is perhaps why so many French canadians wished for Quebec to be its own country, before now trying to give themselves as much political freedom as possible without leaving the country.
Did you just say they have always been there first? Do you not acknowledge the fact that indigenous Canadians inhabited the lands before everyone else and everyone else is either immigrant or descendant of immigrants including the French and English?
@@KB-dj2cg By the first to be there, I meant both English and French. It's the immigrants coming from all over the world that are messing up our politics because these minority groups feel entitled to tell the natives and government how to be. You do make a good point about the first nations. The british have done quite a lot of messed up things to them, and I'm sure the French would've eventually done that if they weren't relying so much on them to survive winter.
@@jsdutil6834 Then why do you vote for parties that want more immigration if you hate new immigrants? I mean the Liberals clearly said that they were gonna increase immigration and take Syrian refugees.
@@KB-dj2cg I'm conservative. I think Trudeau is an imbecile and his politics are too much on the right. I can't really tell the difference between liberals and the NDP :/
@@KB-dj2cg He didn't say he hate new immigrants. lol There are LOADS of immigrants identifying as Quebecers and embrassing the culture. Canada embraces multiculturism, Quebec rejects it and embraces laïcism. Canada wants to import full cultures, Quebec wants to import new Quebecers. There are 2 completely different visions in this country...
Yeah, I lived in a part of Gatineau with a lot of African immigrants, and a lot were very fluent in French. As an Anglophone Canadian, I also preferred to interact with someone who (hot take here) was not white. The white Québecois were more likely to do shit like respond to "Parlais-vous Anglais?" with "Oui" then continue speaking French. The people who would seemed likely to be 1st gen Canadians would often be much more pleasant to interact with in English.
But it’s not something we’re proud of, we actively try to kill the french language and switch to English. The French still to this day haven’t left Africa, we still use the franc that they control and many other forms of neocolonialism, the french are still to this day colonisers, the British are not. Quebec nationalism is just another example of french supremacy continuing to this day.
i believe it was showing languages spoken as a first language as I highly doubt the largest percentage of people who speak English are in the USA. Its probably in India as they have over 1.3 billion people and if only 5% speak English as a second language that's more than the US population yet they didn't even appear on the graph of Indians who speak English.
7:57 "most of the French speaking people in the world are likely to be multi-lingual europeans who can also speak English...". Hm, nope. You've never been to France did you ?
Yep, most people in France only speak French, same in most French speaking country (Belgium, French Switzerland, ...). And French is a diplomatic language, the second most learnt language,....
Mat en-You’ve obviously never been to the US-spanish is practically mandatory and I’ve known a number of people who LOST JOBS they’d had as long as 25 yr because they didn’t speak spanish…
Guess us anglophones who had to take mandatory French classes since first grade all speak French and are just pretending not to because we hate Quebec so much.
@@thomas_pâté1 De quoi tu parles?? J'habite en Ontario depuis 7ans et j'ai vu au moins 5x plus de hatred de fr contre les anglo que le contraire... Tu t'es fait remplir de marde
@@MrGrey-zc2cy Do you really think everybody is like that? This is the good old : "French- canadian myth" You are one of the reason that some of us don't want to speak english anymore. I still want to learn english because Ik that a lot of english-canadian are friendly toward us. But please try to be More open-minded.
New Brunswick is the only officially bilingual province but there is more english than french speakers in its population, while Québec’s french speakers represent 82% of the population
@@itsmemosdios8428 When your province had the first lasting French settlement, but now its a majority English-speaking province. sad Nova Scotian sounds
You glossed over a lot of context for the English-French relationships. It wasn't exactly a peaceful 'two-founding nations', there was a conquest involved from the English, and a will to assimilate the french in Nouvelle-France. The dynamic has always been quite unequal, culminating in the 60's and 70's, when Québécois people were making 0.63$ for the dollar the english were making. English was the dominant language in the province for business and the dominant class. Francophones were exploited economically and made to work gruelling jobs for businesses that were owned by anglophones. That came with harrassment and ridiculing for being poor and uneducated. The changes that happened in the 60's and 70's were led by socialist sentiments which led to very progressive (for the time) economic policies. This is why we wanted to be 'Maître chez nous', so we could collectively own our ressources and benefit from them.
JJ talked about this when he did his vlog in Quebec. Other Canadians were and are oppressed too, but politicians are not forced to learn their languages. Why is the PM not forced to speak Cree? Why is there not signs in Ojibwe all over Canadian like there is French signs?
@@punknowledge2200 Because we are 8 million people and the total population of all native person in canada is about 1.65 million, with a lot of different cultures, you just cannot learn a language that only 150 people speak. Meanwhile everybody here speaks French
@@punknowledge2200 i know that you cant understand but ill try, Québec(60%) is actually the one speaking french + english and the rest is almost only english so we are forced to speak english (to work). The politician who cares. The sign who cares. The natives i love u
1. Bill 101 was passed because store signs were only in English. In addition, Bill 101 requires at least the translation into French, not to remove the English one. 2. The slogan 《Maîtres chez nous》 was used by Jean Lesage, Premier Minister of Quebec, to separate the Church from the State, which had a huge influence in the Province, the same slogan allowed what is called the Revolution Tranquille. This same event allowed Quebec to catch up technologically, economically, and so on. You videos on Quebec are anti-Quebec propaganda, you demonize a population that has as only problem to be francophone.
From the perspective of an English Canadian, what the Quebec and Canadian government are doing, is ultimately ruining and breaking the ties between both languages. By giving Quebec special treatment, and treating the largest minority in the country as the best thing Canada has, it is ultimately ruining the country. Every province should have EQUAL treatment. Quebec can keep their street signs, but all store signs should be in English if they were originally in English. The language can stay, but we NEED to see all provinces being treated equally!! If not, this country is doomed to fail, all because a minority that doesn’t matter that much wouldn’t stop whining.
@@RedFireRex I agree that every province should be treated equally but I'm sorry but , if Quebec want a law that make all sign in French.....thats Quebec right....every province is autonomous...
No question these videos are largely ignorance-based propagande from a westerner. No question. One of the most interesting facts overlooked here is that a large portion of the immigrants to Quebec are from African nations, where there is a strong french Colonial legacy. Which makes his seeming claims about the race-based chauvinism of the French - especially when put in the light of the criticisms of politicians of color being unfairly burden by the language requirement - ring a little false to me. Religion-based chauvinism? No question, but history is a complicated beast... I am in no way claiming that Quebec politics are not - as they stand - aimed towards maintaining the status quo of the white french populace, but to discuss it as this barrier to immigration falls flat. Yes, French is not an broadly spoken language like Spanish - again colonialism - but why is is a bad thing that there is a protected enclave of the language in NA? That is not to say Quebec politics aren't weird... and can seem quite overtly racist on the face of the policies (*cough* the Crucifix dans la Salon Bleu during conversations of secularism). It is also strange that the strongest progressive voice in Quebec - Quebec Solidaire - are separatist. There are legitimate questions about the way in which Quebec asserts its unique role in Canada, but saying that the second most populated province in the country should simply... not have a role reflecting its culture and values is bald faced anti-quebec propagande. Disclaimer: I grew up in Eastern Ontario and lived and work in Toronto for a decade. Then moved North... then West and lived 6 years in the YVR area. I currently live in Montreal. FWIW I heard more French spoken on the streets in YVR than I ever did in Toronto.
@@RedFireRex The country is not on the verge of failing because of french canadian but because of multiculturalism. The french Canadian, is not a minority, its a PART of the Canadian culture, like the first nation culture and anglo canadian culture. The maple leaf, the term "Canadian", the poutine, the Hockey, the Canadian flag, the maple syrup, the national anthem... all that was created by french canadian. When the Britain have take the New-France. The "French Canadian" were called Canadian. Its only several decade after the creation of the confederation that the anglo-canadian were begin to get call "Canadian" (before that, they were only British).
Quebec's economy relies on handouts from English Quebec. 16 to 20% of their economy relies on English taxpayers that don't live in Quebec. They are not thankful. They don't even consider themselves Canadian. THEy call Canada, outside of Quebec. My kids went to a school that was 3/4 french and 1/3 English. The French kids bullied the English kids. The French resent the English. Every French person I've asked believes equalization payments are mosey Quebec is owed from Canada because they took too much money from Quebec. They don't realize English Canada pays their bills. They have a language police enforcing French! You will be charged if an English sign is bigger! One place was charged because the airconditionner had english stickers. Once the language police tried to get an Italian place to use the French word for pasta. They only gave up when they found out past a was an Italian word!
Real quick, I am Franco-ontarian. Though I am white, the majority of the people I grew up with and interacted with in my schooling weren't. French language and culture is not limited by color. We had native, Asian, African and Caribbean kids and teachers. When the earthquake hit Haiiti, we accepted a lot of students who spoke Creole and French only. There is a flaw in your argument boiling us down to "white people" Also, your argument regarding what the Ford government is doing to the French population was lacking. Though we are disappointed that we are not getting the French language University that had been promised by a previous government , the far more dangerous thing he did was move to limit access to the French language Commission which is meant to help people report lack of essential French language services where required. Ex . Legal services or health services . I am fortunate enough to be bilingual, but many people are not, even in Ontario. Uni-lingual French Canadians or even multilingual French Canadians that do not speak English face severe consequences when essential services cannot be accessed in French. The university is a loss the community can afford at the moment, however the limited access of the commission is a deliberate attempt to assimilate a population of minority (and I reiterate, that it is not an exclusively white population) that shouldn't be ignored. Don't forget, we also pay our taxes for the services we request from our government. It is a really interesting tactic because no one is talking about the Commission, only the university. Even when I contacted my representative to discuss my issues with moving the commission, their only response was regarding the university, which I only briefly reffered to as "understanding but disappointing" . It's a deflection. And if your argument is why do French Canadians have a right to services in both languages but other languages do not, I would argue the mosaic that we are allows people to live in their communities(we could use the example in your video of Vancouver) in their language of choice unofficially but it remains important to become fluent in one of the official languages of Canada. If other languages becomes another official language of the country, we could see commission of official languages rather than of French language. Cultural diversity is incredibly important to what Canada is becoming. In supporting my French identify, I do not want to limit other cultures from flourishing.
I'm not even Canadian but that argument that other peoples don't access services in their languages so why should quebeckers sounds absurd. In that context, why should English speakers have English language services available? It'd make just as much sense to make the whole country French monolingual.
Indeed. His white argument makes no sense. I am Québécoise francophone first. My mother is a migrant from Venezuela & my father 1/4 Algonquian & 3/4 European French descent. My cultural identity exists because of French & Québécois tradition. My mother is a separatist Québécoise (yes many fully integrated migrants are) while my father was federalist. That RUclipsr does not understand nuances at all. & I speak 5 languages^^. Who is xenophobic ?
Mélanie TO FR hi, just to clarify yes you’re right the PREVIOUS government promised a future bribe (for votes) of a French university...not the conservatives. The French in Ontario accounts for literally 600,000 citizens. Government statistics indicate that the minority French (in Ontario ) are
Colleen McIntosh so Anglophones should pay for Concordia, McGill & Bishop universities following your logic. I see your posts everywhere, and they are not there to have a dialogue. It seems to me that you hate the French fact of Canada. That Canada was first created by the French, that your flag comes from a French Canadian, that your anthem comes also from a French Canadian (Calixa Lavallée). It was translated for unilingual Anglophones as real version is bilingual. You can’t escape the fact that French is part of Canada’s history. And that 20% + of the country still speaks French as first language and will always do. They may be a minority in some provinces, but Anglophones are a minority in Quebec. And I don’t feel that hate to impose to them a French view forbidding them of having Health & Education services in English. Even the separatists of Quebec never wanted to stop those services agreeing it is important to maintain services to this Anglophone minority making full part of our history. So your views are very radical. And it amazes me when the separatists are the ones called since the 70s “Nazis”, “Racists” etc...
Hello from Ontario my western compatriot! lol Greatly relieved to see someone of a like-mind in the myopia of the youtube comment board. I'm in the same boat, I was reluctantly dragged through French class for 10 years, learning the bear minimum to pass, only to graduate and realize how ignorant I was as to what "Canada" is as a national entity and what it could be. Our longterm goal should be 100% bilingualism--it is possible! Recently I've gone back to French and I'm making real progress, I hope you are too. I appreciate J.J.'s polemics on many issues but I think he's severely wrong on this one. So much of the argument is based on age-old English Canadian nationalism and this ingrained reluctance to open their minds by putting in the hard work of learning French. The idea that French does not have a unique status in Canada is ahistorical, the first people to call themselves Canadians were of course, the Canadiens! It's too much to get into here because it requires a different approach but the role of Indigenous people--whether they understood themselves as Canadian or not--also played a major role in defining the territory that eventually became Canada.
@@allisonchains__ Hi Allison, thank you for reading my comment but I'm not sure why you would assume I didn't finish the video. Actually, I did finish the video and enjoyed it...although I strongly disagreed with its conclusions. I think it's important that we debate these issues. The last thing J.J. actually said was "maybe you disagree, you can leave your comments below". J.J.'s argument, that French will grow increasingly insignificant compared to English in Canada as immigrants cannot be expected to learn three languages, is basically premised on the 18th century assumption that Quebec itself will eventually be assimilated--or perhaps breakaway from Canada. The problem is that this runs counter to the 250 years of development we've seen since the original union of the Canadas. Quebec went from being a tiny, backwoods colony of lords (seigneurs) and farmers to a free, modern, economic powerhouse with the second largest population in Canada and the largest French speaking population outside of France. Immigrants from around the world are already going to Quebec and learning the language; it's not a myth, it's happening every day. Think about the plight of the Irish in the British Isles, they withstood centuries of overt imperial domination (far more extreme than anything that has happened in Canada) and today they are prospering under their own government and sense of national identity. The total population of Ireland today is about half that of Quebec. My point is that is that if a state as relatively small and oppressed as Ireland was could withstand domination right next door to one of the greatest empires in history, Quebec is surely beyond a stage of development where they will simply dissolve. Hence, Canada has a choice: embrace our unique historical roots as the union of English and French (and again, Indigenous people are also very much a founding party but that is a separate issue) or adopt the divisive and antagonistic policies of promoting English domination. People have been making arguments akin to J.J.'s literally for centuries and yet, sometimes by a thread, Canada hangs on. I would similarly argue that if we alienate Quebec to the point of legal separation, the spine of Canada has been broken, at which point other provinces would probably also be tempted to break and join the American union. An alternative is that Canada actually uses its vast intellectual resources to support the development of French across the country with the goal of 100% bilingualism. The demand for French teachers is already very high in the English stronghold of Ontario and god forbid somebody who already speaks two languages, say English and Hindi, is encouraged to gain some level of fluency in a third. In the past, this may have been difficult but today the access to digital language learning programs is widespread and cheap. Most of J.J.'s argument on this topic seems like it's coming from the 18th and 19th centuries--especially the laughable idea of a white, bilingual "aristocracy" in left leaning, democratic Canada. In the 21st century, the more languages you speak the better and French is a major global language, it's not in decline! It's entirely possible that Canada could accelerate the growth of the French language while better situating its citizens, including native English speakers, for the challenges of an interconnected and linguistically diverse 21st century.
As a franco-American of Quebecois and Acadian descent, I do understand the sentiment of wanting to persevere your culture. Unlike many other ethnic groups in the USA (Italians, Irish, Germans) the presence of Francophones is not very visible, because of the relatively small amount of french descendants compared to some other groups. Even in my state of Maine, which is the highest percentage french (25%) finding distinctly french culture has been rather difficult for me, at least in southern maine. Most french culture is mostly just stuff from Catholicism. It also saddens me that both because of public schools discouraging it, and because of it not being as useful, the amount of french speakers in Maine has continued to decrease. HOWEVER I honestly find the situation with Quebec kinda ridiculous, keeping your culture alive is one thing, but discouraging and outright banning aspects of other peoples’ culture to keep your culture from ever changing is not right. It was not fair for the English speaking Americans to suppress the French immigrants of Maine and Louisianas’ culture, and repeating it in Quebec is also reprehensible. I’ve only been to Quebec once, so obviously I am by no means an expert on this. This is just how it is appearing to me in the US. I still love Quebec, I’m just questioning it’s leadership.:(
Well if you knew about Quebec and Canada’s history you will understand why Quebecers decided to isolate themselves from anglophone and live their lives without being worried to get constantly assimilate
@@americanminotaur2518 Province of Manitoba was mainly a french province in the past. Being bilingual, french completely disappeared, now it is an anglophone province. New-Brunswick is the only official bilingual province in Canada and the story is repeating. Back then, when bill 101 passed in Quebec, it was severely criticized and seemed extreme by the anglophones but it assured the survival of the french Canadians culture, in a era where the assimilation was in progression and going hard. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. For non-residents of Quebec and anglophones residents, laws that implies protection of the French language always seem a bit extreme. You really have to dig in history of Canada and see what happened to understand the particular french/english relations in Quebec and Canada, through the time.
As an Acadian that lived both in Québec and New-Brunswick, I see my language getting slowly closer to death in both provinces every year, I think Québec is not doing enough, and I think New-Brunswick is definitely not doing enough. When I hear how francophones are doing in the US I can't help but feel sad for you guys.
I am from quebec and i'm young so i dont know everything about this culture war that's been going on but i believe that french is an important part of our culture we need to preserve it. I also think that in the world we live in it's became an obligation to speak english so i understand english canadians point of view. But just imagine if it was the other way around and your province was the only one speaking english in this country you would probably react the same way we do
Just speak French at home and in your community. Will you be prevented from doing that if people will be allowed to put up signs in whatever language you want? You sound like people who want to ban the burqa in European countries
@@rezajafari6395 no, but we’re surrounded by English, French is our language and we’re the only French speakers in North America with our territory, we have to protect it because it’s a part of our national identity, comparing us to conservative dumbasses is oh so wrong, it’s not the English billboard that is going to kill Quebec French but it’s an amalgamation of different small things
@@Bonoboorg shut up, immigrants are doing fine speaking their native language at home and speaking English outside. You Frenchies aren't special so quit crying
I find this video very interesting since I’m a trilingual Quebec-born Mexican/French Quebecker Canadian and for living here all my life, I surely have a point of view that is a bit different. Quebec wants, to my understanding, be seen as the territorial “home for French speakers of North America” without separating from the country. That leads to some kind of double standard citizen acceptation because Quebec is welcoming newcomers from everywhere in the world that speaks French and want to learn French to find jobs within the province. With companies needing so much manpower, the current government assumes that an opportunity is there for everyone as long as they have a standard of education in Quebec French culture and history. It can be a roadblock for immigrants that can’t learn the language but let’s immigrants from everywhere that know Quebec culture shine here. My dad Is a trilingual Mexican immigrant and found a job as a French teacher here for immigrants like him. The province has given him the opportunity to have a family without discrimination. This is different, though, for people that won’t ever learn French. I’m really attached to Canadian cultures but I also see how Quebec culture is important as a core culture for my future life because all opportunities are in French here. That doesn’t make me unable to show love for my Mexican heritage as everyone is interested by multiculturalism as long as you can express it in French when it comes to the majority of the people in the province. That’s how I see things living there, in Quebec.
Le mec il critique les minorités québécoise à l'extérieur du Québec qui demande plus de reconnaissance de la langue française mais il veut que les anglophones aient plus de place au Québec...
Les francais hors de québec sont especiellement priviligé car leur langue primaire est recognisée comme une langue officiale au canada même si leur population est plus petit que des autres minorités
@@coolguy4306 Ils devraient avoir droit au même traitement que reçoivent les anglophones minoritaires du Québec. De même pour les peuples autochtones. Ce ne sont pas des immigrants mais des fondateurs. Ils ont fait ce pays.
@@francinesalvas580 ils ont créé le québec mais pas le canada. Le plupart du pays n'ont pas le même culture ou les mêmes valeurs que des quebecois. Je crois que les punjabis á surrey ont fait plus que les québecois sans être raciste et snobby
There is also the possibility to live in two language country without major problems. In Finland the second official language is Swedish. Therefore I had to study it in school, but personally, I didn't learn it and after passing the final examination in university (even in that time I just pass the examination) and today I can't speak Swedish at all (I can understand it a little bit). This hasn't been major political issue in Finland for quite long I will add a link to Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland
This is very interesting. My brother (who is Irish) married a woman who lives in Sweden (far from the Finland border) but her family is from Finland originally. So they speak the Finnish language at home. As a result my brother moved to Sweden to live near her family. He learned the Swedish language fluently, and has learned a great deal of Finnish because they have two little boys. The boys are growing up bilingual at home. Mommy speaks Finnish to them and Daddy speaks English. They will learn Swedish by natural exposure from the society they live in. In effect they will be tri-lingual with no effort on their part. A great gift.
8:00 French is spoken by more than 500 million people across the world and its importance will grow due to the economic growth in French-speaking Africa.
As someone who was learning French in a place that it never was really useful to know, yeah, it becomes much harder to learn and is extraordinarily difficult to become fluent.
This kind of reminds me of the language rivalry of Finland. The 2 official languages are Finnish and Swedish. Only about 10% of the country's population speaks Swedish as their main everyday language, especially in the coastal Ostrobothnia region. All Finnish school kids have mandatory Swedish languages classes, but most of it do grudgingly. They complain about why should they have to learn a minority language.
I think a surprisingly large number of countries have stuff like this. Switzerland has 4 official languages and it's pretty much the same. We all learn french but no one speaks it because it's not really relevant in our daily lifes.
All Finnish school kids have mandatory Swedish classes, but so too do all Swedish-speaking kids have ‘mandatory’ Finnish classes. Are math, history, science and phys. ed not mandatory?
Hi there J.J. I'm French and I've got the chance to go to Ontario these last months. I think that you need to mention that in a historic manner, French speakers were not so lucky among the English majority: look at Lousiana, a million people were speaking French there in the 70's. But after laws facilitating the suppression of the French language, they are about 100 000 speaking french Cajun now. What I'm saying is, your country has two official languages. Canada is lucky to have this cultural strength and should stick to it.
How is it lucky? If you live in Alberta like me it means that you have pay Quebec 13 billion in transfer payments every year just to protect their privileged entitlement.
Definitely a two wrongs don’t make a right category. It was wrong of Quebec to target/ignore the English speaking minority just as it was wrong of US and Louisiana to target/ignore the French speaking minority
@@zachadolphe3633 What does payment transfers have to do with French language protection measures? Moreover, JJ mostly argues that those measures make no sense OUTSIDE Quebec. Transfer payments is about richest provinces money being redistributed to the poorest (including English speaking Atlantic provinces I assume). This has nothing to do with Quebec being privileged. You can be against wealth redistribution but this feels like you just decided to scapegoat Quebecers.
Completely off-topic: I dig the Buc-ee's shirt. If you've never been to one, it's a ridiculously oversized gas station with a gift shop and restaurant. They exist mostly in the southern US. My wife and I visited one on a road trip to Florida. I didn't really enjoy it as it was way too crowded. But from what I gather, they take very good care of their employees, so I approve!!
Its so weird to research or look about political problems in Canada from an American perspective, I mean California alone has 2.5 million more people that the WHOLE COUNTRY of Canada, its just weird
@@AtomicBoo It's even weirder for a Californian. Everyone else jokes we are an amalgam of Canada and some communist state (currently popular, Venezuela) but the divides don't feel as strong here as they do for Canadians it seems. We often get this outside image of Canada as this peaceful happy place, not seeing it's divisions.
Imagine that Canada was predominantly French speaking and had an English minority. (And let's say the US was taken over by aggressive Louisiana Creoles or something.) The English minority in Canada sees its best chances of survival in sticking with the Canadian francophone majority, yet they want their British traditions (tea at 4) and English language protected. The country adopts the French civil code for most of the country, with a small part of it using British common law. The French Canadians recognize English Canadians as a founding nation, even though they are a minority. For a century the country grows along these foundational lines that have been set. The 20th century rolls along, and in the second half of it large numbers of immigrants speaking Chinese, Arabic and Yoruba arrive. The French Canadian majority recognizes these groups as having the same rights as English Canadians, who have been here almost as long as the French. An English Canadian politician says she doesn't like that these other groups are being given the same status as anglophones. Now, would that statement be racist?
@@joetoh6675 Yes. Claiming to be the superior race of a certain country and to deserve a better treatment than other races is racist. Or chauvinist, if it's about nationality and not race.
@@user-sm5sj6mg2t I don't see it as the group claiming to be a superior race or nationality, rather an established culture. This includes, importantly, the legal system, which is an embodiment of core values. What would a country become if it started to accommodate Sharia law or Confucian justifications of authoritarianism, simply because of new immigrants?
@@user-sm5sj6mg2t How not wanting to be lumped in a multicultural melting-pot when you are one of the founding peopl of this country is racist? Are you just pretending or are you really that stupid?
Really, ethnic cleansing ? This is really an insult to the victims of real ethnic cleansing. What Bill 101 did was mainly to assure that the children of immigrants go to French schools so that newcomers would be able to communicate with the majority, and that public signage would be In French. Looks like a lot of Anglos freaked out because Quebecers were waking up after being oppressed by the Catholic church for more than a century and didn't want to stay uneducated and poor, but you know, you still can live in Montreal without speaking French ; English is very much well and alive. And contrary to what you are saying, French-Canadians are more fluent than ever thanks to the internet. Around 07:00, of course there are historical reasons for French being treated differently than other languages, French were the first Europeans to settle here. Canadiens literally meant for a long time French speaking people in Canada (Les Canadiens de Montréal has its origin in that fact). And like any minority society, of course it wants to preserve itself and assimilate its newcomers. Can't see why this is bad, but I guess it is because I'm racist. Though I agree you shouldn't have to speak French if you live in Ontario or Alberta - in fact anywhere outside Quebec and NB -, but it is not because you don't share the post-national wet dream Trudeau wishes that it makes you xenophobic. Au contraire, there must be some values that we inherited that are worth to be kept if all the planet wants to come live here. There would be a lot more to say mais ça va faire la job pour l'instant.
“Queberckers were waking up after being oppressed by the Catholic Church” Lol another Québécois lie told in modern mythology. It does beg the question though, given how important shared religion is to maintaining an ethnos that if Quebeckers just gave up Their religion there’s no reason they can’t be made to give up the langauge either
This isn't a myth, French-Canadians stopped massively and suddenly to attend mass, at the same time they started to name themselves Québécois (instead of French-Canadians). In fact, the rejection of Catholicism became a pillar of the modern Québécois identity@@eriknervik9003 (it is probably the main reason we changed our name). But not the rejection of French. Maybe one day Canada and the USA will form one big, perfect and sleek anglosphere but that day is not here yet.
Trilingual superstar? Most Quebec immigrants speak their mother tongue, learn French through francisation and eventually learn English if they didn't speak it before immigrating.
It's quite racist for JJ to say that only white people can gain proficiency in English and French. Growing up in western Canada, neither of my parents spoke English or French as a first language, yet I've gained some proficiency in French. I think there will be a lot of trilingual speakers in Canada in one more generation. One doesn't need to be a superstar to be trilingual, just diligent and persistent. Le Canada sera encore plus fort grace à son population qui peut apprécier les autres cultures et capable à parler plus qu'un, ou même plus que deux, langues. Voilà ce n'est pas parfait, mais je continue à étudier le français parce que je me sens qu'il est mon devoir à le faire, comme citoyen canadien. Ça aide dans la vie privé aussi.
I think it's really weird that someone outside of Quebec and who doesn't speak a word of french thinks he has the right to 'inform' people about Quebec's politics. I mean, why do you feel the need to talk trash about Quebec in many of your videos?
I wonder if he thinks giving money to First Nations is a "flawed understanding of history" too? Hey, maybe it IS! Dangerous thinking time! But the world will have to deal with the French fact in Quebec. They are sitting on 25% of all freshwater lakes in the world. Hook them up to drain into the oceans, it's hydroelectricity. The fed tried to take back some of that by granting huge ahistorical territory to Labrador, but not all of it. To get clean power once petroleum is outlawed, North America will have to order it in FRENCH!
He isn’t trash talking he is simply stating facts . And why is it a crime to understand Quebec politics, if you want to improve Canada you have to understand Quebec politics
I can only recommend watching Thomas Gauthier's videos as well, just to get a different perspective on things. It should help people making up their own minds.
@@courier3567 Well, his goal was to be respectful and give information to other people, funny how if you would have learned another language like we all did here we wouldnt be talking about it. Pauvre con.
Well, I am not from that part of the world, but rather from Brazil and there's only one thing I'd like to say: ici on est avec vous, nos frères et sœurs québécois.
Keemstar Kreamstar as second, third or fourth language like me. I want my politicians to speak to me in French the same way an Anglophone speaking French needs his politicians to speak English to him. Most Finnish speak English. Does it mean that their politicians should talk English only? Ridiculous.
Big Fatburn Dumbass most Quebecis aren’t “learning English” they know it well. That’s like the president of Brazil having to address his citizens in Spanish or the President of America the same.
I'm not Canadian, but I personally like that Quebec requires its immigrants to adopt the local language and assimilate into the culture. That should be the bare minimum when you immigrate somewhere, I think every country should adopt such a policy, including the rest of Canada. It's a very good thing. I think it's rather ridiculous to compare Francophones to Chinese. French speakers have a history and culture in the region going back centuries, and are a very sizable minority in one province (New Brunswick) and majority in Quebec. 22% of Canadians speak French natively. It's like someone comparing Syrian refugees in Turkey to Kurds. One is a sizable, linguistic and cultural minority with ties to the country. The other are recent arrivals. It's not the same. There's also a lot of immigrants in Canada who are themselves native french speakers, and would prefer moving to Montreal over Toronto (such as Haitians, many West Africans, etc.) So it's not the "us or them" as depicted in the video. Many times, the immigrants don't speak English or French, so learning either one is equally difficult.
Hi J.J. McCullough, Thank you for your perspective! It really helps in my understanding of how English Canadians perceive the French fact and the place of Québécois in the Canadian confederation. Though it might not be your intention, you also make a strong argument for the independence of Québec, which I support as I came to the same conclusion as you: our country is very shaky due to linguistic duality and the new post-national project for Canada. The only way for this new country to work is for the Québécois to assimilate and speak English… And we all know it’s not going to happen. There is bound to have tensions in light of our two competing visions for this country. So it’s either asymmetrical federalism or an independent Québec. Canadians need to understand this, and start to support Quebec independence if they cannot accept asymmetrical federalism. I understand the argument you make about the immigrant minorities vs. the French Canadian minorities. This is starting to be quite the norm in English Canada too, where the two-nation theory has clearly lost the battle. However, I find it really wrong to equate French Canadians to immigrants. Immigrants generally come from an already established foreign country with sovereignty, which has its own customs and language, and are recognized throughout the world. For instance, it’s very clear where the Vietnamese come from and what it means, culturally, to be Vietnamese. There are no two Vietnamese people, they are a distinct people with their own sensibilities. So when they come to Canada, they bring this cultural background with them, but this cultural background still exist in their native Vietnam and the culture continues to exist and adapt over there even when they’re gone. In the grand scheme of things, it is not a tragedy if they or their children end up assimilating to Canada, because their culture and their language still exist in their country of origin. Much like the Vietnamese, the French Canadians are a distinct people with their own sensibilities, their own customs, their own flavour of French and their own history. They have grown separately to France culture, ever since the beginning of the colony, since they had to adapt to the new environment, change the way they cultivate food, the way they build houses, the way to deal with weather; they mixed with other people (Native People, Irish, Scottish, English and subsequent waves of immigration); had other historical events (e.g. France’s revolution VS Québec conquest in 1759). This means we have this distinct people with their own sensibility, but they do not possess a sovereign state. They are a stateless nation residing in Canada. When Canada tries to give more power to the French language in Canada, which as you said doesn’t quite measure up with the prestige of the English language, it’s to protect in some way the “diversity of the world”, to protect this people which exists nowhere else than in Canada. If Canada does nothing to level out the playing field, it is covertly advocating for cultural genocide of this particular people. As this is what happens when you “let the market regulates itself”: you kill the little ones who would have never stood a chance anyway. Doing nothing is doing something. Imagine Joe Bleau’s store in this small town who got totally crushed by the arrival of Wal-Mart; after the fact we wonder, could we have done something to help it? Maybe the government could have given some “tax credit” for him to be more competitive or even regulate prices of the Wal Mart itself so that it is still fair play for Joe Bleau’s store. This is what Québec is doing with Law 101 and the federal with the Official Languages Act: it is trying to save Joe Bleau’s store which is sitting besides this huge Wal Mart. Some say that Joe Bleau’s store should just move to another town where there’s no Wal Mart (myself, an independentist), some people advocate for a free market saying the tides of the markets are inevitable and that we shall not try to act upon them (J.J. McCullough), some people advocate for super intense market regulation mandated by the government in the hope Joe Bleau’s store could compete against the giant and cohabit peacefully (delusional Québec federalists). So our points converge in some way J.J. I think the current situation is unfair to the both of us, and tensions will escalate quickly in light of our very different visions for the direction of Canada. I don’t want to be accommodated, I just want to exist and be recognized as an important part of this country’s history and constitution. It seems difficult, if not impossible, for Canadians to do that, and thus I think it’s better to part ways. No hard feelings! I would really like your insight or that of English Canadians on this.
My thinking is that it is vastly more likely, plausible, and realistic for the Quebeckers to just embrace English rather than form an independent country over a linguistic dispute. French will always be part of Quebec culture, but language is primarily a tool of communication, and the Quebeckers have staked out an absurdly uncompromising position on the French language that is deforming Canadian politics and government in a very dangerous and unsustainable way. I've been to so many countries around the world where English fluency is extremely widespread and yet they still retain their native tongue, even when that native tongue is a language even less globally useful than French.
@@JJMcCullough J.J., thank you for answering me! As you might have noticed, I am not a native English speaker: I am a Francophone. I also speak Spanish at an intermediate level and know the basics of German. I know very well the importance of English as a global language, but also that of the other languages as they give me access to a vast array of beautiful and unique cultures. Language is not merely a tool, it is a key that opens the door to another culture and a whole other way to envision the world. Much like Canadian French is the key to a vibrant culture of 400 years young. From the last letter of Chevalier de Lorimier before he was hung by the British to the festive folk songs of La Bottine Souriante: one cannot fully understand and appreciate the sensibility of that culture without that very important key. About 10 years ago, I was unilingual like you. I also thought language was just a tool and thus I was frustrated my parents couldn’t send me to English schools due to Law 101. At one point, I moved to Montreal and started to immerse myself a bit more in English, and go study in English at university… As I felt I was “losing” my language due to not using it as much and forgetting the most common words of my language in favour of English, I started to realize the value of my native language. It’s when you experience linguistic duality that you can really measure its importance. I am very much open to English and so are most of people my age, but it doesn’t change the fact that French is our native language and that we would never abandon it because it would be seen as more practical to do so. As I said before, the Québécois will never agree to abandon their language because it inconveniences English Canadians to treat us as their equal. So what solution do we have now? My dear J.J., if you’re to the point where you advocate for cultural genocide, you really have to take a step back and reevaluate the your own set of values. There are other more pertinent way to use your time to get rid of that pesky French elite: make them leave Canada. Put the money where the mouth is; make a donation to either OuiQuébec, the Parti Québécois or the Bloc Québécois. Or continue just like you do with these videos, you really help the cause. The independence movement is not merely about language, it is about the cultural survival of a whole people, it is about their longing to have a place to finally call home, just as we are. Like most people in the world, to be free and to own one’s decisions. I repeat, we will never abandon our language and culture; we have been fighting for 250 years to preserve them, and we went from 60,000 people to 10 million. The time of assimilation is long gone; we will not disappear. Really understand this.
@@JJMcCullough I don't agree with everything you say, but I do agree with Sabrina that you are bringing valid points regarding forced Bilingualism, and I am pretty much drawn to the same conclusions as hers. Let's just have that divorce, no hard feelings. I think the disagreement, at its core is, as you put it, "language is primarily a tool of communication". I don't agree with this, it's a part your identity, of what makes you who you are. If you put that logic to the extreme, all those countries you visited that have English fluency would be better off dropping their native language and just speak English. Why don't they? I read that article in the Guardian a few months ago, with a link to a video where a lawyer in NYC lost his sh*t in front of everybody because the workers behind the counter were speaking Spanish. The guy got lynched in the media and had to apologise, but regardless of what you, or I, or anybody might think of this, it has to do with him feeling his identity was threatened. Another example I can come up with is 10-15 years ago, some musicians recorded a Spanish version of this US anthem, and there was that whole controversy in the media because of it. Again, regardless of what you or I may be thinking, it struck an identity vibe of the American people. Whenever you hear "speak Amuhrican", it encompasses the fact that it's more than just a language as a tool of communication, it's part of what they consider their identity. Anyway, I still do like the English perspective you're bringing about Quebec, and looking forward for more videos from you. Peace.
Thank you for this comment, it really details exactly how i feel as a now (mostly) bilingual native french canadian. Now we basicaly have to decide if the economical benefit of Canada are worth disapearing as a culture. The awnser to this question is not the same for everyone. I personaly feel like Quebec independence could be done the right way, with freedom of movement, freetrade, dual citizenship. Hopefully Canada and Quebec can divorce and still stay friends after.Also im not afraid of losing on federal transfert, this is the base argument for so many people who dont' understand how these transfers work in the first place. If nation like Kosovo can be independent, im fairly confident we can manage.
Richard Thomas hi, just thought I correct the percentage of French in Canada. Outside of Quebec, Canada is overwhelmingly English at 97% of the Country. But, if we factor in Quebec then the French minority accounts for 20% or 1/5th of total population l. Thanks 🙏🏻
I'm on a watch spree through your videos. As a swiss, with swiss german as my native language, this is interesting and absurd to watch. My country is quadrilingual, but even though I had to learn french in school, these days when i meet with a countryman from the french part, we simply speak english.Saves him the trouble of learning german, me the trouble of learning french and we can follow youtube videos like this without any troubles. Sometimes I feel my country is weird, but when I look how other countries work and function, i realize every country is weird in a way 😁 btw, there's an old saying here that canada is just a big switzerland. you just profed that saying to be false hehe
@@bingodeluxe We all make fun of each other here. But it is a friendly banter as far as I am concerned. The italian part of switzerland was conquered by the old swiss confederation too, but nowadays they are just swiss like the rest. Also they aren't technically swiss italians, swiss french and swiss germans.. they are all just swiss. As far as I know, and please correct me when I am wrong, there's a law in Canada that you have to speak english and french to become a member of parliament? This is Nonsense for a swiss. You have the right to get everything translated here, so if I don't understand a french speaker of parliament or an italian speaking head of state, I can insist on having a translator. The issue with making everything equal is that it creates a barrier. Just accept facts. Romansh is the fourth language in switzerland, but only around 40'000 people speak it fluently. That's less than 1%. But still that is not an issue, they have the same rights as everyone else to preserve their language and culture than anyone else. We are stronger together and due to the challenges dealing with different languages, cultures and religions, we get stronger as a whole. We are better together than apart, and that is what defines us as swiss
@@bingodeluxe L’allemand, le français et l’italien sont des langues de Suisse 🇨🇭. Et c’est quoi le problème dans l’apprentissage de 3 langues? Vous êtes paresseux?
As a multilingual European who was born in Canada I believe the entire problem lies in the fact that you don't speak French (?), or any other language other then English (?). My experience tells me that once someone learns how to properly use a language they also learn to respect it, cherish it, and protect it if needed - and you clearly are not doing that. I believe Canada is one of the best countries in the world, exactly because Canadian politicians are taught humility and respect by the fact that they have to learn to express themselves in another language, and through this they learn to see things from a different perspective - which is of IMMENSE value for the quality of democracy, and it is something that only someone who has gone through the process can see, understand and properly cherish. So it doesn't really matter if Canada is English-French speaking or Mandarin-Martian speaking, the issue is making sure that Canada remains bilingual (or maybe multilingual someday) - and that requires keeping both official languages well and alive. And while I am open to adding more language to the mix someday, I think it is more important to make sure French remains strong both inside and outside of Quebec first, as it faces pressure from English.
@Richmond Li French is a central part of the history of Canadian confederation, so it has a place at the federal level in ANY place that is in the confederation. Go ahead and make Cantonese an official language of BC. Next you’ll have demands that Mandarin replace Cantonese. Then in the future, Bengali or whatever. What I’m saying is that it doesn’t make sense to make a language an OFFICIAL language (that would be used in the legislature, for example) based only on current numbers, because those fluctuate. What doesn’t fluctuate is the fact that anglo Canada would inevitably merge with the US if the Quebec portion secedes. I think Canadians should strive for a basic level in THREE languages: the two official ones and any third one. Many benefits come with learning other languages, as discussed elsewhere on this page.
@KonradofKrakow Vous avez très bien exprimé des sentiments que je partage. Tant qu'Américain et quelqu'un qui vit à Montréal, la situation serait tellement mieux si le peuple entier du Canada était bilingue pour que tout le monde puisse mieux comprendre (ou que les anglophones du Canada puisse mieux comprendre le Québec).
When you immigrate, you are expected to assimilate to the culture and language of the country. Francophones of Ontario did not immigrate, they have lived here for generations, this is their land as much as the anglophones. Therefore, it is expected that the government builds institutions for them as well.
@@rotters2556 It would still be english, because the first nation don't have a single language they have multiple. Plus, the majority of first nation speak english has either their first language or second language.
@@yournamehere3468 Canada is one of the oldest countries in North America but it's the only one with "no core identity". This is ridiculous. What a shame.
as a black Canadian, born and raised his entire life in Canada (never been to Quebec), i love having french be an aspect that separates Canada from other cultures like the US. it feels like a European country in North America, which is a nice change to see. the 29 countries where french is spoken natively can freely settle in Canada, and contribute to the country. and i just enjoy hearing french around me sometimes more than english, it feels really exotic and fun this isn't any argument for french being a priority, this is just a subjective opinion.
11:52 - 12:13 I mean duh, the kid immigrated to Vancouver, of course he's gonna learn English, but if he wants to represent a country with a second official language (french) he has to learn this language? O U T R A G E. But if the kid immigrated to Québec, he would have learned french, he still wants to be a great politician tho, so since he's in Canada, you know, where you speak both english and french, he's gonna have to learn english. Which is perfectly comprehensible since e great portion of Canada speaks english. I just hate how they always turn the language issues into a one way conversation, making us look evil to anyone who didn't take the time to do their own research
Only 7.2 m speak French about 20% of Canadians, most of whom are in Quebec. While 98% of Canadians speak English, throughout Canada. It's bs that 20% percent of the population have control the political system, while the rest just have to follow the elites.
@@deathflame3849 It is 74% of population who speak English at home ; 24% speak french at home. 2% speak other language. 3 of 4 founding province of Canada at bilingual at 85%.
Being half Belgian and half Canadian but from both the French part I see that in Belgium the French speakers are the bad students and don't learn Dutch (not as well as the Flemish who are often able to speak french) but in Quebec I see a difference and quebecers are often pretty keen on learning English and are good at it (the young generation). I think that either way learning a new language is important. I believe that in Belgium we should keep on teaching Dutch and German to French speakers and in Canada we should keep on teaching French to ''english'' Canadians. Useful or not the knowledge of another language is always beneficial.
I am a very liberal person in Canada, but these videos really do highlight a strange assumption that French Canadians (predominantly white) are somehow more oppressed than every other minority in Canada
I wouldn't say we are more oppressed, but as a French Canadian from New Brunswick, the only officially bilingual province with about a third of its residents natively speaking French, I say we are about as equally oppressed when we are not in a French speaking region. The difference lies more in the number of native French speakers, more than 20% of canada is native French speaker so you will hear them much more loudly.
Me: sitting on my couch enjoying the battle. Great content bro, always fun to watch squabbles between French and English. I don't speak a word of French. Still, Bravo to Fench resilience to reserve their language against nontheless English, which is about to cull out increasing numbers of languages globalwise. Even in my own country, it's considered elite and cool to speak English, whereas in some countries, kids can't even speak their own indiginous language properly, such as the Philippines, no offense. I admit it's brought me much convenience speaking English, yet still, some language has to stand up against the monopoly. Go, French! Go, Francophone!
@@trevorchabot864 shut up he’s on our side they don’t have to speak French as long as they’re on our side. Some English Quebecers decides to stays in Quebec because they’re on our side.
@@bruv5115 Rational? Yeah, this Guy promote the Canadian gouvernement in 1867 that the Western Province of Canada have any human soul except from the BC. Denied the existence of 31 millions Métis disperce in Manitoba (representing 88% of the Population of this Province), in Saskatchewan (75% population of this Province) and Alberta (55% of the population of this Province). He claim that is Undemocratic and Elitist To force people to learn French, but denied that was Undemocratic and Elitist To force people to learn English when French Canadian was the Majority. PS My stats is from one of my Uncle who work in London (England) in a special archive who rescence the None-Anglophones population in the British Empire since It's creation. Imagine you, 88% of the population of Manitoba have virtually the right to speak their languages but infact have no right to Speak in French, Don't have the right to have their own Schools and hospitals. Now, 6% Speak French in Manitoba, what is ironic... 65% of the Manitoban Family name are French... Saskatchewan speak now only 1% in French for 45% French Family name and Alberta, 6% Speak French when 40% of the Family name are French... You see how his historical facts are unacquirate?
When Quebec had the independence referendum , if I remember correctly , it was the rest of Canada rallying that Quebec stay's in the Constitution & unify the nation as a whole.So WTF , dude , make up ur mine .
@@gabrielcollin8276 When Quebec held their referendum, they told us they wanted to be Canadian. Since then, all we've heard is how much they hate Canada. So, the time for referendums is over. It is time now for Canada to partition Quebec and declare our independence. Vive le Canada libre!
@@junipervip681 I agree with you on some points, time for referendum is indeed over. But honestly, a 50.5% vs a 49.5% vote, says that the people were and still are very torn by the subject
@@gabrielcollin8276 Whatever they were "torn" about then is pretty much irrelevant some 25 years later. Times have changed. Canadians have put up with incessant anti-Canada rhetoric out of Quebec and have had enough. Canadians don't need another referendum to tell us what we must do. Canada must partition Quebec and declare our independence. That is the only way our nation can grow and progress. Quebec could have its own country now, merely by agreeing to partition. It's what Canada wants (along with its independence) and what, sooner or later, it will ultimately have.
As a Québécois i dont mind being criticized on our language policies. I understand the privilege aspect of it and the harm it causes to a part of our province. I think its necessary to discuss it but I think this guy does it in a very dishonest way. He goes trough all of the issues with a very relativist tone. He just goes on a rant leaving huge gaps in his rethoric by not giving counterpart arguments. For example he goes saying that french is not an useful language if you compare it to others in the global scape. Wich is factual but very incomplete. We have our own culture and we can connect to alot of part of the world who were colonized by the french. Algeria, Vietnam, Louisiana, Haiti, Congo etc... And hell, all the countries mentioned can immigrate and thrive in Quebec society and take part in quebec francophone culture. I know there is the xenophobia and racism argument. Wich sadly is one of our issue here having an heritage as an oppressed minority ( as white francophones). I think tough that xenophobia is not a default trait here and thats another debate. For comparison i think its a similar way the struggle the anglo canadian community as a whole has with its identity. What makes a canadian different from an american (culture wise)? Of course there are obvious aspect that does make anglo canadian different from american. Just the fact that that you cant compare New Brunswick culture to praires folk culture shows that Canada has it own flavor. Then there is also the reality tough that Canadian culture ( tv shows, comedy, music) is highly americanzed. That it often ends up being swallowed in the big blob that is american culture. I woulndt go saying that Canada is going to end up the 51th state of america, its disonest and it simplifies all the issues in a very cynic way.
I find it interesting that you qualify the Québec legislation as being tough on english population on one side and yet considering ford option not to fund a french university a reasonable one. While the french population in Ontario is about equivalent in numbers as the english population in Québec, Québec as two major english university(and a minor third one), counless english hospital and so on, while the french people of Ontario have a single hospital and no university. The english population of Quebec is probably the most privileged minority in the world, so all that whinning about the statute of french population in the rest of Canada is kind of laughable, and is forgetfull of the intense assimilation politics of the many english population over the years. As for the historical importance of French in canadian culture, let just say that without it, Canada would just be culturaly indistinguishable of the usa, and that numbers in population are irrelevant, as no matter as few as they are, the aboriginal nations will always be culturaly more significant to the canadian culture and identity than the chinese ou italian population, no matter their numbers. And asking to people to speak french ain’t a racist thing since a language can be learned, not a race.
It took me 8 years to learn how to speak mandarin on the level of a middle schooler, so hearing people be so casual about "language can be learned" upsets me quite a bit. While language is not race, scientific consensus is that it is nearly impossible to become fluent in a new language unless you start learning it before you become 15. So in reality language is actually similar to race in a way, as becoming fluent in a language as an adult is nearly as impossible as changing your own race. You already know how bad criticism is for politicians who have only learned a little bit of french and how unelectable their bad french makes them look.
Then be upset, but a language can be learned. Canadian politicians who do the real effort of learning french are very respected for doing so. For exemple, Stephen Harper was terrible at french when he first became leader of the conservative party, but he learned(he was way past is 15 years old)and was respected for that. He was despise for many things but not for that. Go anywhere in the world and make the effort to talk to people in their natve language, no matter how bad you are at it, of course they’ll laught a bit at you, but never in a disrepectful way, and they’ll always try twice as hard to help you, just because by trying to speak their language, you show that you care about them and their culture, you show a sensibility. If you can’t make the effort, you ain’t worthy of the job and would suck at it anyway since you are culturaly blocking yourself from an important part of the population.
@@argentumoblinit7960 Well you didn’t choose the easoest one buddyt. Mandarin is considered the hardest to learn actualy. It doesn’t even begin to compare to french. Or english for that matter. Over 40% of the words in the english vocabulary have french roots so it ’s not like they are from different planets
I understand you're trying to make a point and maybe your comment is a bit outdated given when it was posted, but your point on French Universities and French hospitals in Ontario is patently false. Ontario has a number of bilingual Universities and francophone universities and french colleges. I've actually studied at the University of Ottawa which is the largest bilingual university in the world and took my courses in French. In fact, the University that Doug Ford tried to reduce funding to ultimately ended opening anyways. And what happened to that university? Well, The Université de l'Ontario français opened with a whopping 39 applications. In other words, service and resources do exist for francophones in Ontario at the very least, and they are well present. In terms of learning the french language, I hundred percent agree with you that we should learn french and it's an indispensable part of Canadian culture. En fait, je suis bilingue et je suis fier en tant que Canadien de maitriser les deux langues officielles. The issue is that french education is woefully inadequate in the rest of Canada and the majority of people won't use it in their daily lives. The reality is that in order to be proficient in a langue you have to use it.
@@jonathanberube7815 Languages have tens of thousands of words in them. It isn't a simple thing to learn a new one. I really wish they would make an international language and have everyone learn that. Maybe we can bring back Latin.
If the French Canadian's started speaking English.. Canada would loose many passionate personally.. When the Quebecer's get Angry .. They get very ANGRY.
@@warmflash i understand what he's trying to say but unless you put yourself in someone else's shoes, you don't know shit. like someone says in the comments, nobody wants to be a second class citizen in it's own country
As a French Canadian from Ontario born in Quebec, this was a very interesting video. I do value Canada’s French-English identity but you make a great point about how all individual liberties should be respected equally and while I doubt it will be an all white elite a Franco-English elite that disconnect completely from the rest of Canada would be bad. Idk good thought peace anyways.
They just used you to bring in immigrants. They did in America. They gave Blaks the civil rights. But it was not to help them. As soon they gave everybody the civil rights, they opened the immigration floodgates to non-Europe countries.
I was born in Nepal, but i grew up in QC. As a kid at that time it was hard with the language because I couldn’t speak French but I can speak in English and most of the people in QC would refuse to speak with me in English. I struggle to finish my high school diploma in French since as an immigrant I wasn’t allow to go to English high school. I understand your point of view and specially someone like me who grow up there I can agree with you in certain points. You also need to understand that people from QC fought for their rights and went through lots discrimination in the past and I believe that its ok from them to protect their culture and values...QC is complicated in terms of language and I accept that fact. Apart from that You also need to accept this fact that Quebec is one of the best place to live in Canada and most affordable. Cellphone bills, hydro, insurance, college everything is cheaper then any place in Canada. Maybe Quebec seems complicated for you in politics but what they archive with it is amazing and other provinces in Canada should learn from them.
Nous t'avons fait apprendre le français pour que tu détiennes toutes les clés de ta réussite ici au Québec, la seule société qui fonctionne entièrement en français en Amérique. Ainsi, tu peux te proclamer fièrement Québécois et continuer de faire vivre une autre Amérique avec nous. Je te remercie pour ton empathie et ta compréhension de l'histoire du Québec. C'est vrai qu'on a une très belle qualité de vie ici, et il faut se le rappeler! Nous sommes vraiment choyés ici, malgré la complexité de la question politique.
kingboss ugamaki I don’t know where you were in QC but it kind of surprises me that people didn’t want to talk in english to you. Usually people at least try their best...
Quebec is on welfare from The rest of Canada no wonder everything is cheaper, Alberta oil is paying for Québec and canadians tax payers are giving Quebec Social programs.
like me you probably didnt live in Montreal, so English was practicaly non existent in the rest of Qc, now that I live in MTL i am doing the effort to study in an English Cegep to learn and know both languages ....i am happy that i i learned French first tho....its so complicated, i wouldnt learned by my own
I think french canadians like me should be consider, be respected and have IMPORTANT services ONLY in other provinces (like ensure a french school alternative). But we should do the same for english and possibly for not official canadian languages like spanish...
I don't mean any disrespect, but your opinion on Quebec here is very conventional from a ROC perspective, which is pretty much the traditional media line. I mean, I understand that the need of bilingualism for government jobs might be understated, other than the Prime Minister of course. But you were subjected to a bit of anti-Quebec disinformation and I want to address some points. -101 Law: It is NOT an anti-English law. Let me remind you, that learning English here is *obligatory* . I've had English courses since I was 6 y-o. I was learning English litterature and journalism classes (in English only) during my last 3 years in high school. I also had 3 years of Spanish in those 3 years. Yes, we are that chauvinistic and xenophobic. One thing that you accused us of that I found funny, is privilege. I think YOU are viewing this from your privileged unilingual view of things from Vancouver, where you are very far from any Quebecers and where you are part of the majority. You are very happy to defend minorities (and so are we!), but as long as they have a different skin color. Kinda hypocritical, no? You seem to understand Canadian history only since the Confederation, and only from the ROC point of view. It's a good thing that we are starting to view colonisation from the aboriginal's perspective, but it's impossible for you guys to view Canadian history from the Quebec perspective, why? Which brings me to the Mordecai Richler's video, which I honestly find, yes, offending. He definitely looked at it from a privileged perspective. Let's call it the Anglo privilege. Did you know, that in the 50s and 60s, French Canadians in Quebec were considered as cheap labor and second-class citizens? The bosses were all Anglos, all the commercial signs were in English, our grandparents had all the shitty low-level jobs because they didn't speak English. Let's not forget that in the 50s and 60s, the French barely spoke English, as the Germans, the Italians, the Poles, the Spanish, etc... It was not the time of the internet and easy travel, where learning English was a given! So you could barely get decent jobs in your own country because even if you were the majority in your province, there were no good jobs in the language of the majority! Bill 101 was exactly to address this issue. And it is an anti-English law? Do you understand how first the English tried to get rid or assimilate us (and remember what they did to the Acadians!) and how afterwards we were considered second-class citizens and cheap labor! Trying to protect our language while we are the majority here is so preposterous? How is this intolerant or xenophobic? You have to look at it from the historical perspective, but NOT from the Anglo perspective, but the perspective of the people who live the reality. You seem to think the Quebec government pushes an agenda on the unwilling population. But let me remind you that the CAQ, for example, got 78% of the Francophone vote, and so far they are only acting from their electoral platform. And you really need to differenciate between settlers and immigrants, these are not the same thing at all! Any immigrant arriving in Vancouver knows he/she has to learn English. Or if you immigrate to Germany, you need to learn German. But why should we disreguard French and let out culture disappear? If the aboriginal Residential Schools were so bad, why would it be a good thing to let French go? And seriously, comparing us to the Italian and Chinese IS preposterous. Again, we were first settlers here, we did not immigrate to any country where we have to assimilate, we were here! (well, after the colonisation, but before the conquest and the confederation) NO ONE would ever dare compare the aboriginals with the Italian and Chinese! But it is somehow OK to do so with us. And in multicultural Canada, I find the irony sublime: you can't say anything about any minority, unless they are French Canadians, then you can accuse then of all the wrongs. Kinda reminds me of a time when it was natural to hate on Jews! But why do the media want so much to make us appear like xenophobic assholes, when we only ask for things that are asked everywhere else in the world, INCLUDING Canada!? Simple: separatism. The ROC wants to squash separatism. And the best way to do so, is to deny us as much as they can of our culture and drown us in immigrants who'll only learn English. What did Canada do in the 95 referendum? They naturalised thousands of immigrants in WEEKS instead of YEARS! Because they knew they wouldn't want to immigrate to a country breaking down. But what happens if immigrants who come here and learn French are assimilated to the Quebec culture, as immigrants in Germany learn German and are assimilated to the German culture? Or the same for the US, the UK or France? They might just vote yes in a new referendum. That is why. Because a lot of immigrants who were here for some years DID vote yes in 95. And the ROC knows that. They know how many new Americans or Canadians learn to love their new home. New Quebecers live in Quebec and live the same life as us who have ancestors from France, they live the same reality and the same challenges. -The idea that biligualism is something that is exclusive to or is mostly privileges white people is utterly wrong. Most immigrants of color learn French before English. And Montreal is the most trilingual city in Canada, French and English being two of them, the other language usually being the mother tongue of immigrants. I'm from Quebec City, and it's not like it's a white only city. Let me remind you, that we get a lot of African and Muslim immigrants from French Africa (a lot from Haiti too), and they don't necessarily speak English (a lot don't). You have to realise that the immigration reality of Quebec and the ROC is entirely different. One perfect example is Indian immigration. There ARE Indian immigrants in Quebec, but not nearly as close to as the rest of Canada, by a longshot. Why? Because India was an English colony. Just look at our parliament, there are quite bit of people of color (surprise, surprise, at the CAQ too!) and immigrants in general. Several of the miniters in our last government were immigrants, and we have two non-white ministers right now. So if they wanted to try at the federal level afterwards, they'd be privileged white francophones? -One last thing because my post is way too long. The idea of a post-national state is suicidal. If there is no social pact, no common values, no common ground, a country is bound to break down. Let me just remind everyone that democracy, men-women equality are Canadian values for example, among many other things. A nation is not necessarily about being of a skin color or being there "from the beginning", it's about what the country stands for and how we perceive each other. This in itself doesn't negate anyone's other identities, be it cultural or sexual, or whatever. It is just the basic common ground. If there is none, then social cohesion is not possible. Nationalism is not xenophobic or non-inclusive in itself. But like any good thing, it can go too far down the road. -Okay last. You said that French is not important for politics. That's not true at all. It is one of the official languages of the UN and the European Union as in many other associations. French has been the language of diplomacy for a long time, and it keeps an important role. The actual number of people who speak the language doesn't matter a lot. You're much better off to learn German than Spanish because the German economy is so strong. You're much better off to learn Russian.
Wow cool! We have a professor here! I used to love French, and French Canadian culture and everything Quebecois. Then I moved to Sherbrooke. Couldn't get a job because I couldn't speak French, and more importantly only English. I would apply for a job then come back days later to learn they hired Ivan the immigrant from Russia (who didn't speak French but didn't speak English either so it was ok). Keep in mind I come from a very small town in B.C. then I returned to English Canada, then went to Montreal. I lived there for 6 years. I have never felt so unwelcomed and discriminated against from a group of people; even Quebecois who say they are "woke" will give you this fake news about oppression. While it may seem that Quebecois are open to English only, they are certainly not. The Xenophobia is so rampant that the Neo-nazis are becoming the norm in Quebec city. You can say it's not true, but JJ does have a point. French is a dying language period. Forcing draconian laws to save it is alienating the rest of Canada. This is coming from someone who immersed himself in French culture, excelled at it in school. I have no desire to go back to Quebec or keep learning French. And yes French is Definitely more of a minority than a lot of immigrant languages in the real part of Canada. I would be fine with Quebec separating, at least then the rest of Canada wouldn't be forced into teaching a dying language by xenophobes.
Tim Borovkov Lol....UN and/or Africa...😝😂😁. What does the UN or Africa have to do with Canada? Africa is a Country literally on the complete opposite side of the world. Even in Canada (outside of Quebec), Canadian’s are a massive overwhelming English majority at 97% of the Country. So, French is important to the French minority but has little to zero importance or impact on the English majority in Canada. My twoonies’ worth 🙏🏻
Critical Unity-Let’s not exaggerate, now. I’ve been comparing multi-language labels for quite some time now, and find French about equal to spanish: only ~60-70% more “verbose.” ;-)
Speaking of Anglophones leaving Quebec: "it's a kind of gentile ethnic cleansing..".... Yeah, surely, like when the French Acadians were forced out of the country they built? :p Alright, I know, two wrongs don't make a right, but anyone who cherishes their culture surely must understand the French-Canadian perspective. I agree, surely, the Quebec Francophile position may have gone too far at times, but it's quite amazing how they've still managed to maintain their language and cultural specificities despite overwhelming odds (ie being surrounded in a continent, and world, where Anglo culture is massively dominant). Kudos to them, but also admittedly, kudos to the Anglos of North America for dealing with them in a rather humane way in the last decades. That's the only reason why the area isn't a clusterfuck, it's that the Anglos had a humanistic strategy regarding Quebec. If the Anglos had been more violent, in the last decades, against Quebec separatism, there's no doubt that the separatist movement would be stronger and a more international affair.
The problem with that argument is that the what the British did to the Arcadians happened 300 yrs ago and as well was a strategic act to ensure control over New Brunswick. In addition to that the French had ousted many a Scottish settler from Nova Scotia.
@@olivermcgimpsey841 what is the problem with Quebec wanting to ensure control for the majority of its population and the subsequent immigrants who learn French? It's not like learning French is a handicap like JJ is pretending, it's a part of a cultural identity that helped many things happen, you'd think Jackie Robinson would have been treated this way if de Lorimier stadium was in Toronto? Hell no. There's no need to forcibly create a university where the population of a group is minimal but let's also not forget that until the late 20th century, french education was illegal in Ontario if my memory serves me
I understand your points. Yet, I think monolingual Americans have to learn that learning a language isn’t a big deal. In Europe, like you mentioned, we tend to speak multiple languages. We’re not blessed by god… you make it sound harder than it is. Teach people languages. It’s good for them. And it is easy too. There’s no reason why almost everybody in Canada can’t speak both English and french. It’s just another skill.
You aren’t blessed by god but you are severely underplaying how much regularly encountering other languages plays a role in their acquisition - If every interaction you can have in hundreds of miles in every direction is in one language it not only seems unnecessary to most but genuinely makes it much harder to actually become proficient
As an American this is all so weird but also interesting
He's speaking bullshit. I don't want to insult you in any way, but I'm going to preventively advise you to RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN if you are interested in the problem.
Sorry if my english is bad
Same here, it refreshing to see the tea on other countries
@André Lussier, stfu
Tres bien@@cineva3044
@@cineva3044 He's speaking A mix of facts and his opinion.
The French and the English are fighting even on a different continent 😂😂
When the spirit of the 100 years war lived on in another continent.
Come to think of it they've been enemies for 1000 years or so
Since the the year 1066.
on several continents actually, just look at Cameroon
Their rivalry is so hostile its become ingrained in their DNA and passed down to their kids.
Three things are ever-present in our universe:
-Death
-Queen Elizabeth II
-English and French people fighting
The Québécois are nothing like the French, seriously. We have an affinity with them due to our shared language, but our culture is more different than it is similar. Apart from immigrants from France, no one identifies as French in Québec similar to how Anglo-Canadians don't call themselves British.
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me in fact one thing that is funny is that french royalty in the 1600 spoke like french canadians 😂
@@TacticalAnt420 But now, all of France has adopted the oïl language, it's nothing unique. Sure, there is a few very old expression and words that have stuck around, but it's the same language. That means French Canadians have a slightly easier time understanding old works of art such as Molière.
And taxes
Fuck the crown!
to give Justin Trudeau some credit, this is far from the only issue he's massively hypocritical about
*laughs in fossil industry subsidies*
That's really more taking away credit than anything else.
@@danic_c At least he's consistent? 💀
Consistently inconsistent, the most important qualification for a politician.
It would be super crazy if the english-speaking minority within Quebec had their own seperatist movement that turned into violent protests, and wanted to take a section of quebec that was predominately english-speaking and break off from the rest of quebec to form their own english sub-province...
How ironic would *_THAT_* be...
JJ: Quebec makes Canadian politics weird.
Me, a Spaniard: *Laughs in Catalonian and Basque Separatism, as well as half a dozen other regionalist movements*
But Spain is not a Federal type of Government and can sack and take over a province.
@@scorpioninpink Spain may nominally be a unitary state, but Autonomous Communities have as much power as any federal province unless article 155 is put into action, which only ever happened once. However, the real power of regionalist and separatist parties come from their seats on the Central Congress and the amount of negotiating power they have in our fractured multi party system
I thought spainards didn't speak english....
@@cakeisyummy5755 everyone speaks English nowadays :)
Separatist movements arise when a province's culture and language begins to be oppressed (or when one of the richest provinces of the country, like Catalunya, doesn't seem to reap the same benefits from the government as the rest of Spain... but we're talking about Canada here, so I digress). In these situations, wouldn't countries be more united if they actively recognize and teach ALL of their country's official languages in other provinces? In Canada, why don't schools mandate the teaching of French throughout primary education since it is such an important language in their country? In Spain, it might be a little harder to teach all four languages to all citizens, but it should definitely be an option, especially for Catalan, which is widely spoken by all of Catalunya, Valencia, and the Islas Baleares. I personally think bilingualism enriches a country's culture and political system, rather than takes away from it. The problem is when a country's government does not support it- that is when separatist movements gain popularity.
in australia we're not even monolingual, we're semi-lingual.
U! S! A!
We do this too sometimes.
What?:’) what do you mean semi-lingual?
Yes we win
At least you don't have separatists
i'm not canadian, im not french, and this comment section scares me
why?
agreed lol. both groups are hostile to each other.
Dr House have you seen the drama of it all you do not face in that direction you SHOULD never face that direction I’m telling you
Mod Maker well actually as a Canadian we Canadian learn French Quebec and they are different from French from France but the only difference I’m pretty sure is the expression
Mod Maker but I do agree because most people in Quebec and from Quebec are jerks to us they are apart of Canada and yet when you ask them if they are Canadian they will say no I am from Quebec of course not all of them are like that but lot of them are and there is always a fight between English speakers and French speakers and the rest of Canada has to learn French and we do complain about it because it does makes sense to because Quebec is the only place in Canada where you have to speak French besides the government but in Quebec people complain about having to learn English like why the rest of us speaks English so it would make sense for them to learn it but they get mad about it if they do not want to speak English then why should we speak French
I went to Quebec as a field trip for my French class, I live in New York so it was a big deal and we spent two weeks there. It was a strange place, we went during carnival which was awesome. My French teacher told us that if you speak English to a store clerk in Quebec, they will oftentimes pretend that they don't speak English out of spite. Does anyone know if that's actually true?
The biggest thing that I remember about the trip is that I went from having a passable version of French that worked in a school context to being able to speak French nearly fluently by the time I got back from Quebec in just two weeks. That was amazing to me.
Bilingualism is most prevalent in Montreal and store clerks will definitely try their best to answer you in English, even if you try to approach them in broken French. If you went to the Quebec City carnival however, then many older folks there and elsewhere in the province tend to only speak French.
Good job on your immersion field trip, real-life practice is a great way to rapidly feel comfortable with a new language!
I mean, sometimes it’s true, sometimes they answer and sometimes they really don’t know English
In Montreal, most people will answer you in the language you're using (French or English). Outside of Montreal, proficiency in English falters. About your question: if the person realizes that you are a tourist, pretty much nobody will try to be a pain in your ass for not speaking French. You will get no such problem in most touristic destinations, too. If someone perceives you as a Quebecer who's lived here all his life and hasn't bothered learning the language, then yeah, you'll get annoyed responses and people might start ignoring you. It would be like an American refusing to learn English, but sticking with Spanish only. That is perceived as a lack of respect towards our culture (and it often was a sign of disrespect, as French was the "language of poor uneducated people with no culture").
That is not true, alot of jobs require you to speak both english and french. At least in Gatineau Close to the ontario border
Its not true at all unless your in a very rural area
> Quebec : i want to be independent.
> Canada : No, please stay we love you please please stayyy
> Quebec : okay, I'll sta-
> Canada : *Complains about Quebec*
:pikachu face:
Lemme fix that for you
> Quebec : i want to be independent.
> Canada : Well if you really want to l-
> Quebec : We're keeping your money, want to use your international connections, demand a discount on trade...
> Canada : No... ...please stay... ...we... ..uh... ..."love" you...
> Quebec : *Is Quebec*
@@MrGrey-zc2cy Canada saying " well if you really want to" never happened. They did everything to prevent Quebec from leaving, check your facts
@@megan2484
Creative license, y'know the thing you also used? The government didn't drop to it's knees begging Quebec to stay and the English citizens of Canada knew you weren't going anywhere assuming they even cared.
Quebec wants to "leave" like a millennial leaves home by moving into the basement.
Mr. Grey la maison nous appartient, va te louer une chambre miteuse ailleurs le moron....😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😁😘
At the time of Laurier French Canadians considered themselves "canadiens" while most of the rest of English Canada considered themselves British subjects. Fun fact.
It's not that simple though. Many English Liberal supporters were also anti-imperialists, Mackenzie King aggressively supported a rapprochement with the Americans and a distancing from the British, which was a common sentiment amongst many in Ontario. Likewise, there was a movement of civic nationalism in Quebec which sought to promote the Quebecois as good British subjects, as Conservatives did manage to elect premiers in Quebec until the early 20th century. Quebec even had an anglo premier for 1 year. During the Laurier years it happened that many of the anglos in Canada were born in the UK or had direct familial ties to England, but English imperial ties were less popular amongst Loyalist descendants who increasingly viewed the US as more in line with Canadian values.
too muc bs.. need to unite and talk it out..not play kid games like mr dick video guy
Canada was already a country by the time Wilfrid Laurier was in charge, English Canadians saw themselves as Canadian, the National anthem had already been adopted by this time too.
@@tylersmith3139 1867 doesn't mark a sharp change in peoples' attitudes. Canadians went into that idiotic European war (WWI) immediately on Britain's side. National anthem? I remember attending hockey games at the Montreal Forum in the early sixties where they played both national anthems, God Save the Queen and O'Canada (both the Union Jack and the Red Ensign were flown). Getting out of short pants was a long time for Canada.
@@floxy20 You clearly know nothing about Canadian history, of course it wasn't a sharp turn, Canada wouldn't have been a country if it was a sharp turn, it was growing identification of being Canadian and wanting representation as such that brought people to strive for Canadian independence from Britain (which Anglophones, not Francophones fought for)
God save the Queen isn't our national anthem and that rarely happens. There may have been a foreign team, plus Canada was a dominion until 1982, we had to go to war, plus it's ironic how Quebecois love to talk about their pride for being French, but when France was being invaded by Germany in WW1, they didn't care about defending their heritage and it was an "English war". It was Quebecois who don't see themselves as Canadians, they're the only ones who've tried to leave and Canadian independence was largely fought for by English, from 1867, Canada began being more and more independent, hell we're the ones who created the flag we use today for supposedly people who don't feel Canadian, hell Canada as a country was created for greater independence from Britain and was mostly fought for by English Canadians, it was the Quebecois who don't feel Canadian, you're identity is so fickle, it's literally just based on language, you guys try to say you're Canadian while feeling the least Canadian, you act like you're so different from the rest of Canada while having the same religion, having the exact same origin as fur traders and speaking French, a language in which 1/3 of English words come from, not to mention most English words were come from romance languages, which French is one, so much for a "distinct culture". Let's face it, it's ironic for Quebecois people to say they identify more with a country Anglophones created and fought for way more than Anglophones do, hell we constantly have to appease you guys to stay in Canada, how is that Canadian patriotism? You guys are the least patriotic and always have been, don't act as if you're more Canadian because you have a word for Canadian, I've never heard a Quebecois person call themselves Canadian, meanwhile Anglophones have been calling themselves that since Canada was created. Britain was seen as our heritage because we were former British colonies, 1867 onwards, Anglophones here considered themselves Canadian and were proud to have a country of their own, unlike Quebecois who considered themselves Quebecois and barely identified as Canadian.
As a texan, your shirt made me smile. I was there earlier today! We love Buc-ee's in Texas.
Lol I was surprised to see the Buc-ees t-shirt.
He's a wannabe Texan.
Me, a Cajun in Louisiana: soon we shall have our own "Quebec"
Bonjour!
Yea, you get Crowley.
Can you be Cajun and Créole in the same Time ?
@@bouchacourtthierry8506 of course, just as you can be Scottish and English at the same time. I have Cajun, Creole, and Quebecois ancestry, though I identify most with my Cajun heritage.
@@thekingofmoab1181 ... thank you ..I mean "cajuns" came from the deported acadiens ...and "créoles" was the word used to design the king of France subjects born abroad the kinkown ...so Cajuns was a minority very specific and Créoles an another minority (european original Settlers in Louisiana ...that was, on those Times all mid-west) and all become US citizens ... Québequers ...Accediens from New Brunswick ...french canadians (canadiens) are three others specific communauties ...but perhaps in Louisiana ...Cajuns and Créoles melt (I don't now) ...
I went to Quebec City and Montreal a few weeks ago...during the election. The people there were pretty friendly and respectful. I really wish I could speak French fluently, I felt like an ass speaking only English to them. It would be my 3rd language but the more languages you know the better.
the fact that you said that i have to say thank you...
It's the thought that counts
May i recommend you to take a look at "Do you need french to live in Montréal" by The New Travel, and to take a look to the comment section. You'll immediately notice a completely different dynamic from this comment section, with tons of Québécois actually praising that dude from Manitoba. The reason is simple: we get defensive when we feel attacked, but when you actually try to understand our side of the medal we get super friendly super fast almost by default.
This comment section is a direct result of J.J's smear campaign and close-mindedness.
I actually spent a couple af months in Montreal, and everybody there would always SWITCH TO ENGLISH when I would speak French. They could pick up my Anglo-Albertan accent I suppose.
@@ivanlaplante you are absolutely right
It amuses me that as someone who actually is bilingual in English and French I'm more qualified than most Canadians to serve in a government position, despite being American.
Yes you are specifically because in Canada especially the English speaking provinces have limited French language services such as in Ontario, Saskatchewan, Alberta or New foundland and Labrador. I myself in order for me to be promoted to higher echelons of the military I must be bilingual.
Same. I mean, we have Ted Cruz, so why not send the Canucks one of us? Fair trade.
We could use you. Become a mandarin in the upper levels of the Civil Service. Interface with corporate types. Many people of the American race have immigrated to Canada. My father was one of them.
J. J. Is taking shortcuts. You don’t need to know French in most government jobs in Canada. If you do you get a pay check bonus.
He is referring to a High profile political function. But then again it’s not a law. It’s caused by the political weight of the whole French community in Canada. If you want French peoples to vote for you, you need to be able to tell them why...
@@jacquesjrroy785 Over 40% of all senior bureaucratic jobs require French fluency.
I feel like from British Columbia, you don't really understand how life in Québec is. The problem is we do not agree on our vision of Canada. The country is how it is now because there is no way Québec would have stayed in the federation if it had been your way (as it chose to stay by 50,6% in 1995).
I am an immigrant living in Montréal and we understand that French is part of the local culture. Chineses and Italians who come here have to learn French because it is the local language. English is special though, and there are English schools, cegeps and universities for English Canadians because they are not immigrants in their own country. I think most Québécois would expect the same treatment elsewhere in Canada even if like you say, BC is more Chinese or Italian than French Canadian.
I would not expect anyone in BC to have to learn French. But I would expect someone who wants to work at the top of government to have to learn English and French, because all Canadians speak one of these two languages.
The way you talk about Canadian culture being an equal mix of all immigrants cultures is not how we see it here. We see a common Québec culture that immigrants like me are invited to join and contribute to. We call that «pluriculturalisme» as opposed to multiculturalism. I don't think multiculturalism is wrong, but the way it puts the local culture on the same foot as others isn't the best for integration, and would aggravate racism problems in places with a strong and proud cultural nationalism like Québec and most of Europe. I disagree with CAQ's politics on immigration, but I don't see them as racist, although it could look like it from BC where nationalism like that doesn't seem to exist from what I can infer.
Maybe BC and Québec should be in two different countries so both solitudes are both equally represented, but I think most Canadians (and Québécois) are satisfied with how it is right now and that's why the country is still united, politically at least.
well, the only thing i want is less illegal immigration, but otherwise, i'm good with it.
Couldn't agree more 😆
As a Chinese I feel like my people have unfortunately taken a very crucial role in this. I visited Canada from Toronto to Montreal, and understood a little bit.
Quebec to Canada is probably like the Northeast to the US. It was the first 'Canadian' part to be developed. Cities like Montreal was already highly developed while Toronto and most of Ontario wasn't. In fact, the very beginning of Ontario is 'loyalism', which is still reflected in their flag (with a British jack on the corner), their motto (just search it yourself) and even their license plate (with a crown in the middle). I can feel that the people in Quebec probably don't like the idea of being a subject to the British monarch that much? (Or, you just don't want to be considered anything 'British' or 'Anglo/English'?) Just watched the flag debate, some people are saying that the new flag united people in Quebec and discouraged secessionism, and I found it pretty... At least it's not nonsense. Literally, the Union Jack is flown proudly everywhere in Toronto, along with their provincial one, the Maple leaf, and sometimes the American Star Spangled Banner. In Montreal it's completely different. There are a lot of Canadian maple leaves, yes, and also not uncommon for the US ones (which I don't understand why), and even more provincial flag. However, I rarely see a union jack...
And we all know that now, Toronto, ON has replaced Montreal, QC as the largest city in Canada. Vancouver, BC and its surroundings are also catching up quickly. The takeover by Toronto happened in 1970s, and matching the demographics, it really is immigrants, especially Asian ones (who were much more overwhelmingly anglophone, or even Anglophilic). In some ways it makes English the more dominant language within Canada. And the worst part is, it has nothing to do with Francophone communities or Anglophone communities in Canada. It was caused mainly by British and French policies, literally. Do you know what's the largest bank headquartered in the UK? It's HSBC, H stands for Hong Kong, S stands for Shanghai. It's a bank with huge Chinese roots. You can see how powerful British influence is, or at least was, through some of its networks (banks, etc.). France seems to be in worse luck (most of its colonies yet to be stabilized and developed) and don't have anything close in place. Or it was because Canada AS A WHOLE was already tied with the British more... And America, de facto Anglophone (and if there's a 'second language' spoken in the US it's Spanish instead of French) rose as the sole superpower didn't help...
Anyways hopefully things are getting better. Just like you said a lot of newcomers are now destined for Quebec. The Canadian government is encouraging that. A lot of these people has formed a pretty unique identity and integrated well with the local people, and accepting and creating Francophone based local culture...
@High Definition Its more like Quebec doesn't give a damn about Alberta...
Did you realize 16 to 20% of the money your province generates comes in the form of money handouts from English Canada, (mostly Alberta)? We pay your bills!! Quebec is satisfied because they get money from us. Google Equalization payments to Quebec total. You will get a sum of billions that will stagger your imagination. We pay your bills because of identity politics. Do you understand I am saying Quebec is on 'welfare?' That's what equalization payments are. They've been receiving billions regularly since the 1970s. If you have a government job in B.C. you need French. A baggage handler needs French in B.C.
When I speak French, it's very apparent that English is my native language. Responses in Quebec are either 1) immediately switch to English, 2) happily try to converse in French as much as possible, or 3) pretend they have no idea what I am saying, which is really annoying when I know what I am saying is correct.
I wish English people would speak me in French
I like how being bi lingual is a big deal in west meanwhile in south east country ur expected to know minimum of 2-3 languages
EXACTLY
@Swann Leipälä When you have 300 million people to converse with on this continent - and your language is the world's lingua franca - you never really need to learn another language.
South east u mean asia??
Cause I'm from Nepal and I know three languages
Nepali
English
Hindi(India)
Asians tend to be bilingual at average cause English is a given and their naitve language
@Taiwanlight
New radio shows
@@TheWhale45 Don't know your problem with people trying to learn languages😂. Like you are no wizard and people not learning languages isnt going to make the world a better place.
Why not just split the difference and everyone speak Creole.
Creole also has some Spanish mixed into it, so I dont think that would sit well with us.
Oscar Tango Bdv
Lol bc it wouldn’t make any sense and it would just complicate things even more.
@@airsoftalgerie3302 a creole is not a language per se, but the result of mixing two languages together in a functional way. You could have a Spanish-Brazilian Creole, French-English Creole, etc. Because the Southeast US was settled by the Spanish, French and eventually British, it would make sense that the sort of "Cajun" Creole we think of in the States might have a little Spanish mixed in as well.
Rodrigo Santos Valeriano sorry, it would be Spanish-Portuguese of course.
J.J. : "[French] is a language spoken by a rather small proportion of this planet"
*Proceeds by showing a graph that only take into account first language speakers*
I see what you did there.
yeah 30% of the irish population knows french as a second language so almost one in every three
But isn’t the argument that if French to be recognised as on a equal plane to English, it would be useful for it to be a major language for L1 speakers. If you were to put a graph of L2 languages, I am sure English would out weigh French but a lot.
If you compare it to first language speakers of English it’s dwarfed, especially in Canada
It’s worth noting L2 speakers particularly in Africa and Middle East its like the second fastest growing language in the world and spoken by 220 million ish.
@@kiwi1lad If you look at total speakers, native and secondary, french is 10th in the world and English is second. Mandarin is first. But if you exclude strong regional languages (I.E, a single region with a billion people that all speak the same language, like Chine, India, ect) French is one of the most diversely spoken languages and jumps a bit higher in the rankings.
4:15 : mispronouncing French just for the sake of being disrespectful. Why?
I'm an anglophone raised in Quebec, and most of us just want to get along. Just showing a basic degree of respect to one another goes a long way.
*Andrew, your positive attitude is greatly appreciated. If everyone had your open mind, it would be heaven on earth. Anglophones like you who know how to adapt to the Québec society by uniting with Francophones without animosity, that's true living together.*
I think he just doesn’t speak French lol, he mispronounces words from many foreign languages, I don’t think it’s a directed attack.
Wow never thought of the words “ethnic cleansing” to be associated with modern day Canada...
Get the islam out. That will do
@AlexNOSAM but the English were not forced to leave and putting a 2/3 french vs 1/3 English sign in front of your business is not exactly the image of repression.
@@franlanglois6933 I mean they literally outlawed English in business. That falls under "restricting the use of a group's native language."
You haven't been paying attention, have you?
@@ocost3000 they did not, they just made sure you could speak your language in the workplace. English were imposing English on the workplace (everyone was French except the bosses)
I don't entirely agree with this. As an immigrant who lives in Quebec, I have felt at times that the obsession with the French language was annoying, but I understand why. I don't think it's fair to compare other minorities to French Canadian minorities, since the French have been on this continent for longer than any of us, even English speakers.
French heritage is very important in Eastern Canada, I think more than it would be in the west of the country.
Quebec just wants to preserve its heritage, history and language and I respect that.
thank you
My boy thank you for the comment
Anne Edwards but then why not the First Nation’s language, they were there before the French
Doffy Rob the French in Canada were conquered by the British, they represent less 20% of Canada, and if immigration continue French will continue to fall, so your argument is completely useless and irrelevant.
Merci beaucoup mon cher co-patriote!
Luxembourg: *laughs in quadrilingual+*
ca aide quand tu peux faire le tour de ton pays en jogging
mdr
Ech ka souguer e bëssen italienesch. Also pentalingual fir mech. ;)
Haha yes in Europe four languages qualifies you to be a waiter
CharlyTDM07 No dutch, the other ones you listed are the official languages. But at school and in many workplaces english is slowly becoming one as well. There is a constantly increasing number of expats fron non-neighboring countries. It is also common to learn a fifth language for native Luxembourgers to a beginner level.
I definitely found this video very interesting, being a european. However, we do struggle here in europe with the challenge of english influence on our languages. Language is also culture, identity, history and a tool for communication that grew out of the needs and facts about said culture, identity and history. We do not want to just give up our european languages and switch to english, it does not feel natural at all to us, and we feel that we lose a lot of our culture and history that way. So I can definitely sympathise with the desire to keep french.
However, I see your points about french acting like a glass ceiling. Social matters are never always easy. I don't agree that french is impossible to learn however. I had it as a 3rd language in school and I keep finding it useful even if I don't feel proficient enough to speak it, to at least get an idea of what french texts say.
@@louisd.8928 I definitely see that point as well.
Thank you
The native population might have something to say about that whole "first minority" thing
Well in the native reservations you might have to learn their language but no one goes to live three anyway
I am all in favor that french is prioritized in where its mainly spoken (but mr Bagguete here feels that its more important, because it feels like it :).
yeah, and they live in reservations after unrestricted immigration overwhelmed them. Your point?
Exactly, indigenous peoples were the first mainstream cultures, and European settlers were the first minorities.
Lol after unrestricted EUROPEAN immigration overwhelmed them.
We all have our biases, I admit that. I’m a bilingual American citizen who speaks both English and French fluently. Naturally I am very sympathetic to the québécois mentality and their unique community within greater Canada. I think the first step is to acknowledge the unique history of both British and French colonialization in Canada. Ultimately it was and is British (Anglo) culture that has dominated both North American the political and social scene. But as someone who has both an appreciation for foreign languages (especially French) in a geo-political sense, I think it’s extremely important not to turn a blind eye to the profound impact of French culture and language in the development of North American democracies. And as for biases, it’s obvious that every time someone who makes little to no effort in pronouncing French words or sentences correctly, they clearly have no interest in bridging the gap. I won’t fault you, JJ, for having no interest in learning French. But from personal experience, there is something remarkably special about making an effort to speak the language of the 7 million + Quebeckers who call Canada home. The way their faces light up when you (an anglophone) begin speaking French to them makes the struggle feel almost non worthwhile.
Merci...
Andrew Fusco Thanks/Merci
@@dominicbaril46 had the same experience, touché!
Merci, Andrew. Tu as tout compris!
Andrew Fusco This is so true. I am a Québécoise by birth and I am a proud one by that and when you see anglophones speaking French, even if it’s not big or good sentences or everything, we are all really happy because they at least try and respect our culture and languages. So thank you for bringing this up :))
Since you support the cut of French services in Ontario, you support the cut of English services in Québec?
That would harm Quebec more than cutting French services would harm Ontario
@@FireurchinProductionsByzantium How so?
@@lecoureurdesbois86 cutting access to English speakers when nearly the entire first world provides english language services is a great way to kill non-french businesses and foreign investments from non-french speaking companies
@@FireurchinProductionsByzantium How would that really change something? It doesn't change anything for businesses as far as I know, they already have to translate everything and work in French anyway, I don't see the point
LeCoureurDesBois Quebec wants to cut all English services? What else is new? The sun rose in the east this morning? Ontario is still providing French services, even though its French population is less than the English population in Quebec. The real “cutting” should be the partition of Quebec and the founding of a new nation of Canada, separate from the Québécois who consider Canada to be an inferior colony.
I guess they saw what happened in Louisiana and went ham on self-preservation.
@@louisd.8928 Cries in San Francisco, California, Florida, Texas, Nevada, New Mexico, the Philippines and Puerto Rico's Spanish language suppression by the English. All my support to French language ♥️ Latin languages shall prevail.
@@louisd.8928 The English have almost caused all Celtic languages to go extinct, It is understandable how Québeckers think when Anglos have a history of destroying cultures.
@@alfrredd What's the difference between that and the suppression of native languages in the past? Spanish has absolutely zero place in the Philippines. Tagalog is the lingua franca, and being fluent in English is far more beneficial than Spanish
@@manny5372 Of course the English and then the US have influenced the world so much through soft power and straight up war and oppression, that their language has become prevalent and now used like an international language and it's more "beneficial". Back when the US invaded, Tagalog and Spanish were the lingua franca, the US came in and prohibited spanish culture and language from schools implementing US culture and language instead, same happened with Spanish territories in North America, and the Pacific; Puerto Rico is still a colony (since 1898) but thankfully the Spanish language there is really engrained in puerto rican's identities and the US is struggling to have the people forget and erase their customs and national identities.
@@alfrredd the us isn’t struggling to erase Puerto Rican culture or language Bc it isn’t trying, modern day Puerto Rico is largely neglected by the us government, and it hopes the less the government mentions Puerto Rico the more people will forget it still a colonial left over.
There is a difference between an 'anti-English' and 'pro-French' law. You can be Pro-French without being anti-English, which are most Québécois.
D'accord Patrice. Tu as raison!
The purpose of every Quebec language has been and always will be to diminish and eventually destroy English language institutions and history in Quebec (notice I didn't say language as the language will obviously always be present there).
looes74 looes74 No you can’t. The French has to be bigger than any other language otherwise you get a fine from the language cops. All highway, provincial and municipal signs have to be in French-only unless the anglophone pop is 50% or higher. Like wtf is that? Could you imagine similar in Ontario? The francophone establishment would go nuts.
Also, all immigrant children have to attend French public schools even if they come from America just an hour away from the border. This is such an evil and petty policy that was clearly meant to decimate the English public schooling system. They passed the law in such a way that wouldn’t make it obvious do that Quebec can wash itself of responsibility should they no longer exist in the near future.
@@TheCanadian9- Can you re-write that in a way that makes sense? Every Quebec language? You do speak English, right?
looes74 looes74 And what does that have to with Quebec?
Me watching this from India where every state\ province has its own culture and language 😅
are you emo
@@cheese5331 what does that have to do with the comment?
@@mizcaesar1804 why do you care
@@cheese5331 cause it was a weird question to ask to someone commenting about indian states having there own language and culture
cool man
Even as an English-speaking Western Canadian I can really understand the desire of French Canadians to preserve their language and culture. I think you probably would too if you were in their position. I do agree though that the political classes are incredibly hypocritical in forcing multiculturalism down everyone else's throats but theirs.
You are right. As a Quebecer. I eat, celebrate and say words that are uniquely Quebecois. Quebec separation would solve many problems. Win-win.
Canada is a confederation like Switzerland, why can't we follow the best elements of their system ? I'm French from Québec and I don't think french should be forced down the throat of people outside our province/communities, but we just don't want to be second class citizens in our own coutry. Switzerland has a very decentralized state and a very consensus driven federal state that includes all national languages (including tiny Romansch). That's makes the country bigger as a whole through competition and free trade (I do wish my province was richer than average, that's why we founded and elected CAQ). I think JJ makes it worse and caricaturize us. Harper spoke more than satisfactory french and he tried, no matter how often he screwed up, he was unashamed in telling he cared. it means everything.
@@guillaumegiroux9425 souverainté dude. c la solution.
@@magdaw3123 y'all would be poor without billions of dollars from Alberta every year lol
@@magdaw3123 nah you would starve because no one is giving you money anynore then
Hey J.J. Just discovered your channel and I have to say, as a french spreaking Québec seperatist, I really enjoyed your perspective on the "french thorn in the multiculturality of Canada". Although I don't agree with your conclusions (you think Quebec have it unjustly easy while I think Québec has been getting a raw deal from the ROC for the last 60 years) I agree that Canada is at an impasse that will only get stronger as french-speaking canadians represent a fewer percentage of the canadian population. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the future of canada. My contention is that since the bilingual aspect of Canada is embedded in the constitution and the balance of power most often residres in the hands of Québec on the federal scene, there will necessarily be an escalation of anti-Québec sentiment, which will inevitably lead to Québec leaving Canada. Federeal governments are loathe to open the constitution since the last two major times it did this led to an insane rise in the seperatist movement. And the more the federal parties pander to french nationalists to garner votes, the more english-speaking canadians will feel like the system is rigged. I don't imagine a point where this ends in anything but a fracturing of Canada. What are your thoughts? Love your content. Love to disagree with you!
Seul bon post à date.
@@antoineplouffe1762 yup
Le ROC vas juste attendre que le français meurt avant d'agir pour ne pas avoir de problème avec les souverainistes. Les parties indépendantistes sont dans leurs derniers spasmes!
Just out of pragmatic curiosity, how would separatists see Québec functioning economically as its own nation?
"the balance of power most often residres in the hands of Québec on the federal scene, there will necessarily be an escalation of anti-Québec sentiment, which will inevitably lead to Québec leaving Canada" Eg. Quebec doesn't hold the power in Canada => Quebec leaves. This is quite an entitlement for a minority of the country.
Première fois que j'entend vraiment un canadien anglo dire "a boot" à la place de about.
Moi qui croyait que c'était une légende ...
Lâche pas garçon, t'as un beau toupet rempli de préjugés.
Bisous!
j'adore ton ironie! Bravo!
Omg moi Aussie
Il fait ça exprès. Si on écoute bien, on voit qu'il met ses "oo"s n'importe où.
Sorry I don't speak surrender.
TheLastPizzaRoll probablement que tu parles juste le rednecks morons comme tout les idiots....😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😁😘
I live in Quebec. I'm one of those chauvinistic French Canadians you're talking about. I couldn't disagree more with the underlying message of your videos and we clearly have opposite political views.
But I have to say, to my own dismay, I love your videos.
I think I now understand more the perception non-French speakers have of us and to be fair, some of it is legitimate. I do think political roles should be accessible to all, no matter their mother tongue (and by that I mean that they could speak neither of the official languages). I think it all comes down to a matter of point of views. When we are 9 French speakers in a room (I work in video games) and we have to switch to English because of that 10th non-French speaker, it becomes infuriating, because not all are capable of expressing their opinion in an understandable English.
I think we just all want to be part of the majority, because being a minority sucks as your reach is limited. We are a majority in Quebec, we behave as such. If you include Canada we then become a minority. When a minority in Quebec has ridiculous demands (Hasidic Jews at the YMCA for example) there is a backlash, just like there is when we have "ridiculous demands" or privileges to the rest of Canada. That also explains why the Quebec Separatist movement had reach outside Quebec, with some Canadians tired of us whiny bitches.
But still, here we are. So I disagree with you sir, but I respect you. Have a good day (and to all my fellow Canadians from all horizons) !
I must love you, sir, for you respect others with differing opinions AND you have a fucking Reboot avatar
@@p11111 Reboot is Canada's finest contribution !
@@carlprefontaine Finally, something that can truly unite all of Canada! :D
I am french speaking from Quebec, and I was about to say pretty much the same message.
JJ do amazing videos, he's very handsome and pleasant to watch (no-mustache JJ)… but when it comes about the Quebec, he display much more hate toward us than almost all of us against the Canada (only his videos make me remember that we're supposedly stuck into in a rageful linguistic war, and that I'm suppose to hate every Canadians... if I'm a "real Quebecer"). It's because of people like him that federalist Quebecers turning against Canada (as they indirectly created/contributed our independentist movements). How could we love a country who hate us that much? The most cynical thing is that he (and others) twisting our provincial prime minister's words (province-first as any other provinces, but also from Quebec federalist parties) to serve their own Canadian interests against the Quebec (federalists shooting at other federalists! Congrats!!)… or they use the "because they are French"(xenophobic) to judge every provincial decisions that they don't agree with.
J.J.: *makes video on Quebec*
French Canadians: "Wait, that's illegal."
English people : **generalizing because of this lousy-haired guy**
The only thing that should be illegal is his goddamned toupet. It's like JJ went to the hairdresser and ask for the most condescendant toupet in the world and that reverse mullet is the result.
@@RagnarokLoW 😂😂😂
@@RagnarokLoW Nah his hair is cool, but what about him bobbing his head like he's trying to hold a shit?
@@droudrou2770 donne nous quelqu'une autre a voir qui explique cette issues comme bien comme JJ
The issue is that the French canadians never wanted Canada to become this multicultural politically correct country. It's pretty much a clash of ideologies between laicism vs multiculturalism, which somewhat justifies Quebec's arguments.
French canadians are not anti-immigration, but against the idea of immigrants coming to their country and telling them what to do. They have always been there first, and simply want to keep their culture safe. On the other end, other cultures arrived here after the British took over and should be expected to conform to how life is like in Canada. The problem was created when the federal governement decided to be so leniant towards new immigrants.
It's true that provinces should mirror the ideologies of the federal, but that is perhaps why so many French canadians wished for Quebec to be its own country, before now trying to give themselves as much political freedom as possible without leaving the country.
Did you just say they have always been there first?
Do you not acknowledge the fact that indigenous Canadians inhabited the lands before everyone else and everyone else is either immigrant or descendant of immigrants including the French and English?
@@KB-dj2cg By the first to be there, I meant both English and French. It's the immigrants coming from all over the world that are messing up our politics because these minority groups feel entitled to tell the natives and government how to be.
You do make a good point about the first nations. The british have done quite a lot of messed up things to them, and I'm sure the French would've eventually done that if they weren't relying so much on them to survive winter.
@@jsdutil6834 Then why do you vote for parties that want more immigration if you hate new immigrants? I mean the Liberals clearly said that they were gonna increase immigration and take Syrian refugees.
@@KB-dj2cg I'm conservative. I think Trudeau is an imbecile and his politics are too much on the right. I can't really tell the difference between liberals and the NDP :/
@@KB-dj2cg He didn't say he hate new immigrants. lol There are LOADS of immigrants identifying as Quebecers and embrassing the culture. Canada embraces multiculturism, Quebec rejects it and embraces laïcism. Canada wants to import full cultures, Quebec wants to import new Quebecers. There are 2 completely different visions in this country...
I don’t know what that statistic was, but French is spoken by a pretty high number of people in Africa.
Yeah, I lived in a part of Gatineau with a lot of African immigrants, and a lot were very fluent in French.
As an Anglophone Canadian, I also preferred to interact with someone who (hot take here) was not white. The white Québecois were more likely to do shit like respond to "Parlais-vous Anglais?" with "Oui" then continue speaking French. The people who would seemed likely to be 1st gen Canadians would often be much more pleasant to interact with in English.
But it’s not something we’re proud of, we actively try to kill the french language and switch to English. The French still to this day haven’t left Africa, we still use the franc that they control and many other forms of neocolonialism, the french are still to this day colonisers, the British are not. Quebec nationalism is just another example of french supremacy continuing to this day.
Yeah, also many Africans hate French people, look it up.
@@sdprz7893 I get that, but aren't the african francs only linked to France by name, since France has been using the Euro for 20 years?
i believe it was showing languages spoken as a first language as I highly doubt the largest percentage of people who speak English are in the USA. Its probably in India as they have over 1.3 billion people and if only 5% speak English as a second language that's more than the US population yet they didn't even appear on the graph of Indians who speak English.
7:57 "most of the French speaking people in the world are likely to be multi-lingual europeans who can also speak English...". Hm, nope. You've never been to France did you ?
Yep, most people in France only speak French, same in most French speaking country (Belgium, French Switzerland, ...).
And French is a diplomatic language, the second most learnt language,....
@@maten146 Most Belgians
Source I'm belgian and I had to learn Dutch, English, French and German (all the languages of the country)at school.
Mat en-You’ve obviously never been to the US-spanish is practically mandatory and I’ve known a number of people who LOST JOBS they’d had as long as 25 yr because they didn’t speak spanish…
Thistle Tea-Same in Luxembourg, as I’m sure you already knew…
Parisians usually speak a little English
I like how he thinks French Canadians don’t speak English while English classes are mandatory since first grade at school.
Guess us anglophones who had to take mandatory French classes since first grade all speak French and are just pretending not to because we hate Quebec so much.
@@MrGrey-zc2cy guess what? Us quebecois don't want to learn english anymore because all of english-canadian treat us like s**t.
@@thomas_pâté1 De quoi tu parles?? J'habite en Ontario depuis 7ans et j'ai vu au moins 5x plus de hatred de fr contre les anglo que le contraire...
Tu t'es fait remplir de marde
@@FwoGiZ non, tu regarde dans les commentaires, et tu vas voir les "hatred" Anglais.
Et s'il te plaît, reste poli.
@@MrGrey-zc2cy Do you really think everybody is like that? This is the good old : "French- canadian myth"
You are one of the reason that some of us don't want to speak english anymore.
I still want to learn english because Ik that a lot of english-canadian are friendly toward us.
But please try to be More open-minded.
French Canadians were not the first minority. They were the first majority.
Fausse nouvelle la Karen
I moved to Quebec in 2014 and have considered improving my french recently.
Respect!
Got more motivation then me
Do you speak French now? :0
"Hello, my name is JJ, your friendly, neigorhood Québec hater"
Yep. Haters are popular on RUclips, especially when they speak English as their first Language.
When Quebec is known as the mostly French-speaking province.
*sad New Brunswick sounds*
New Brunswick is the only officially bilingual province but there is more english than french speakers in its population, while Québec’s french speakers represent 82% of the population
W
@@itsmemosdios8428 When your province had the first lasting French settlement, but now its a majority English-speaking province.
sad Nova Scotian sounds
@@coincoindelacanardiere3958 Well yes we speak both that why we are bilingual. Quebec does not see English as an official language.
Don’t worry New Brunswick it is probably good that no one notices your French speaking province cause that means you aren’t obnoxious
You glossed over a lot of context for the English-French relationships. It wasn't exactly a peaceful 'two-founding nations', there was a conquest involved from the English, and a will to assimilate the french in Nouvelle-France. The dynamic has always been quite unequal, culminating in the 60's and 70's, when Québécois people were making 0.63$ for the dollar the english were making. English was the dominant language in the province for business and the dominant class. Francophones were exploited economically and made to work gruelling jobs for businesses that were owned by anglophones. That came with harrassment and ridiculing for being poor and uneducated. The changes that happened in the 60's and 70's were led by socialist sentiments which led to very progressive (for the time) economic policies. This is why we wanted to be 'Maître chez nous', so we could collectively own our ressources and benefit from them.
JJ talked about this when he did his vlog in Quebec.
Other Canadians were and are oppressed too, but politicians are not forced to learn their languages. Why is the PM not forced to speak Cree? Why is there not signs in Ojibwe all over Canadian like there is French signs?
@@punknowledge2200 Because we are 8 million people and the total population of all native person in canada is about 1.65 million, with a lot of different cultures, you just cannot learn a language that only 150 people speak. Meanwhile everybody here speaks French
@@punknowledge2200 i know that you cant understand but ill try, Québec(60%) is actually the one speaking french + english and the rest is almost only english so we are forced to speak english (to work). The politician who cares. The sign who cares. The natives i love u
@@melon_m2100 approximately 8% of Quebec population are English speakers. They're all mainly in montreal
1. Bill 101 was passed because store signs were only in English. In addition, Bill 101 requires at least the translation into French, not to remove the English one.
2. The slogan 《Maîtres chez nous》 was used by Jean Lesage, Premier Minister of Quebec, to separate the Church from the State, which had a huge influence in the Province, the same slogan allowed what is called the Revolution Tranquille. This same event allowed Quebec to catch up technologically, economically, and so on.
You videos on Quebec are anti-Quebec propaganda, you demonize a population that has as only problem to be francophone.
From the perspective of an English Canadian, what the Quebec and Canadian government are doing, is ultimately ruining and breaking the ties between both languages.
By giving Quebec special treatment, and treating the largest minority in the country as the best thing Canada has, it is ultimately ruining the country. Every province should have EQUAL treatment. Quebec can keep their street signs, but all store signs should be in English if they were originally in English.
The language can stay, but we NEED to see all provinces being treated equally!! If not, this country is doomed to fail, all because a minority that doesn’t matter that much wouldn’t stop whining.
@@RedFireRex I agree that every province should be treated equally but I'm sorry but , if Quebec want a law that make all sign in French.....thats Quebec right....every province is autonomous...
No question these videos are largely ignorance-based propagande from a westerner.
No question.
One of the most interesting facts overlooked here is that a large portion of the immigrants to Quebec are from African nations, where there is a strong french Colonial legacy. Which makes his seeming claims about the race-based chauvinism of the French - especially when put in the light of the criticisms of politicians of color being unfairly burden by the language requirement - ring a little false to me. Religion-based chauvinism? No question, but history is a complicated beast...
I am in no way claiming that Quebec politics are not - as they stand - aimed towards maintaining the status quo of the white french populace, but to discuss it as this barrier to immigration falls flat. Yes, French is not an broadly spoken language like Spanish - again colonialism - but why is is a bad thing that there is a protected enclave of the language in NA?
That is not to say Quebec politics aren't weird... and can seem quite overtly racist on the face of the policies (*cough* the Crucifix dans la Salon Bleu during conversations of secularism).
It is also strange that the strongest progressive voice in Quebec - Quebec Solidaire - are separatist.
There are legitimate questions about the way in which Quebec asserts its unique role in Canada, but saying that the second most populated province in the country should simply... not have a role reflecting its culture and values is bald faced anti-quebec propagande.
Disclaimer: I grew up in Eastern Ontario and lived and work in Toronto for a decade. Then moved North... then West and lived 6 years in the YVR area. I currently live in Montreal. FWIW I heard more French spoken on the streets in YVR than I ever did in Toronto.
@@RedFireRex The country is not on the verge of failing because of french canadian but because of multiculturalism. The french Canadian, is not a minority, its a PART of the Canadian culture, like the first nation culture and anglo canadian culture. The maple leaf, the term "Canadian", the poutine, the Hockey, the Canadian flag, the maple syrup, the national anthem... all that was created by french canadian. When the Britain have take the New-France. The "French Canadian" were called Canadian. Its only several decade after the creation of the confederation that the anglo-canadian were begin to get call "Canadian" (before that, they were only British).
Quebec's economy relies on handouts from English Quebec. 16 to 20% of their economy relies on English taxpayers that don't live in Quebec. They are not thankful. They don't even consider themselves Canadian. THEy call Canada, outside of Quebec. My kids went to a school that was 3/4 french and 1/3 English. The French kids bullied the English kids. The French resent the English. Every French person I've asked believes equalization payments are mosey Quebec is owed from Canada because they took too much money from Quebec. They don't realize English Canada pays their bills. They have a language police enforcing French! You will be charged if an English sign is bigger! One place was charged because the airconditionner had english stickers. Once the language police tried to get an Italian place to use the French word for pasta. They only gave up when they found out past a was an Italian word!
Real quick, I am Franco-ontarian. Though I am white, the majority of the people I grew up with and interacted with in my schooling weren't. French language and culture is not limited by color. We had native, Asian, African and Caribbean kids and teachers. When the earthquake hit Haiiti, we accepted a lot of students who spoke Creole and French only. There is a flaw in your argument boiling us down to "white people"
Also, your argument regarding what the Ford government is doing to the French population was lacking. Though we are disappointed that we are not getting the French language University that had been promised by a previous government , the far more dangerous thing he did was move to limit access to the French language Commission which is meant to help people report lack of essential French language services where required. Ex . Legal services or health services .
I am fortunate enough to be bilingual, but many people are not, even in Ontario. Uni-lingual French Canadians or even multilingual French Canadians that do not speak English face severe consequences when essential services cannot be accessed in French. The university is a loss the community can afford at the moment, however the limited access of the commission is a deliberate attempt to assimilate a population of minority (and I reiterate, that it is not an exclusively white population) that shouldn't be ignored. Don't forget, we also pay our taxes for the services we request from our government.
It is a really interesting tactic because no one is talking about the Commission, only the university. Even when I contacted my representative to discuss my issues with moving the commission, their only response was regarding the university, which I only briefly reffered to as "understanding but disappointing" . It's a deflection.
And if your argument is why do French Canadians have a right to services in both languages but other languages do not, I would argue the mosaic that we are allows people to live in their communities(we could use the example in your video of Vancouver) in their language of choice unofficially but it remains important to become fluent in one of the official languages of Canada. If other languages becomes another official language of the country, we could see commission of official languages rather than of French language.
Cultural diversity is incredibly important to what Canada is becoming. In supporting my French identify, I do not want to limit other cultures from flourishing.
I'm not even Canadian but that argument that other peoples don't access services in their languages so why should quebeckers sounds absurd. In that context, why should English speakers have English language services available? It'd make just as much sense to make the whole country French monolingual.
Indeed. His white argument makes no sense. I am Québécoise francophone first. My mother is a migrant from Venezuela & my father 1/4 Algonquian & 3/4 European French descent. My cultural identity exists because of French & Québécois tradition. My mother is a separatist Québécoise (yes many fully integrated migrants are) while my father was federalist. That RUclipsr does not understand nuances at all. & I speak 5 languages^^. Who is xenophobic ?
I like some things JJ has said, but this was a far more intelligent response than anything I've seen him say about Quebec.
Mélanie TO FR hi, just to clarify yes you’re right the PREVIOUS government promised a future bribe (for votes) of a French university...not the conservatives. The French in Ontario accounts for literally 600,000 citizens. Government statistics indicate that the minority French (in Ontario ) are
Colleen McIntosh so Anglophones should pay for Concordia, McGill & Bishop universities following your logic. I see your posts everywhere, and they are not there to have a dialogue. It seems to me that you hate the French fact of Canada. That Canada was first created by the French, that your flag comes from a French Canadian, that your anthem comes also from a French Canadian (Calixa Lavallée). It was translated for unilingual Anglophones as real version is bilingual. You can’t escape the fact that French is part of Canada’s history. And that 20% + of the country still speaks French as first language and will always do. They may be a minority in some provinces, but Anglophones are a minority in Quebec. And I don’t feel that hate to impose to them a French view forbidding them of having Health & Education services in English. Even the separatists of Quebec never wanted to stop those services agreeing it is important to maintain services to this Anglophone minority making full part of our history. So your views are very radical. And it amazes me when the separatists are the ones called since the 70s “Nazis”, “Racists” etc...
I live Alberta and have started to learn French recently, I now have more determination to keep learning it.
All I can remember from being forced to learn it in school is the word "merde", which I use to describe my opinion of the language.
Bravo, tu es vraiment déterminé ^^
Hello from Ontario my western compatriot! lol Greatly relieved to see someone of a like-mind in the myopia of the youtube comment board. I'm in the same boat, I was reluctantly dragged through French class for 10 years, learning the bear minimum to pass, only to graduate and realize how ignorant I was as to what "Canada" is as a national entity and what it could be. Our longterm goal should be 100% bilingualism--it is possible! Recently I've gone back to French and I'm making real progress, I hope you are too.
I appreciate J.J.'s polemics on many issues but I think he's severely wrong on this one. So much of the argument is based on age-old English Canadian nationalism and this ingrained reluctance to open their minds by putting in the hard work of learning French. The idea that French does not have a unique status in Canada is ahistorical, the first people to call themselves Canadians were of course, the Canadiens! It's too much to get into here because it requires a different approach but the role of Indigenous people--whether they understood themselves as Canadian or not--also played a major role in defining the territory that eventually became Canada.
Mathew Brown I don’t think you watched the whole video...
@@allisonchains__ Hi Allison, thank you for reading my comment but I'm not sure why you would assume I didn't finish the video. Actually, I did finish the video and enjoyed it...although I strongly disagreed with its conclusions. I think it's important that we debate these issues. The last thing J.J. actually said was "maybe you disagree, you can leave your comments below".
J.J.'s argument, that French will grow increasingly insignificant compared to English in Canada as immigrants cannot be expected to learn three languages, is basically premised on the 18th century assumption that Quebec itself will eventually be assimilated--or perhaps breakaway from Canada. The problem is that this runs counter to the 250 years of development we've seen since the original union of the Canadas. Quebec went from being a tiny, backwoods colony of lords (seigneurs) and farmers to a free, modern, economic powerhouse with the second largest population in Canada and the largest French speaking population outside of France. Immigrants from around the world are already going to Quebec and learning the language; it's not a myth, it's happening every day.
Think about the plight of the Irish in the British Isles, they withstood centuries of overt imperial domination (far more extreme than anything that has happened in Canada) and today they are prospering under their own government and sense of national identity. The total population of Ireland today is about half that of Quebec. My point is that is that if a state as relatively small and oppressed as Ireland was could withstand domination right next door to one of the greatest empires in history, Quebec is surely beyond a stage of development where they will simply dissolve.
Hence, Canada has a choice: embrace our unique historical roots as the union of English and French (and again, Indigenous people are also very much a founding party but that is a separate issue) or adopt the divisive and antagonistic policies of promoting English domination. People have been making arguments akin to J.J.'s literally for centuries and yet, sometimes by a thread, Canada hangs on. I would similarly argue that if we alienate Quebec to the point of legal separation, the spine of Canada has been broken, at which point other provinces would probably also be tempted to break and join the American union.
An alternative is that Canada actually uses its vast intellectual resources to support the development of French across the country with the goal of 100% bilingualism. The demand for French teachers is already very high in the English stronghold of Ontario and god forbid somebody who already speaks two languages, say English and Hindi, is encouraged to gain some level of fluency in a third. In the past, this may have been difficult but today the access to digital language learning programs is widespread and cheap. Most of J.J.'s argument on this topic seems like it's coming from the 18th and 19th centuries--especially the laughable idea of a white, bilingual "aristocracy" in left leaning, democratic Canada. In the 21st century, the more languages you speak the better and French is a major global language, it's not in decline! It's entirely possible that Canada could accelerate the growth of the French language while better situating its citizens, including native English speakers, for the challenges of an interconnected and linguistically diverse 21st century.
As a franco-American of Quebecois and Acadian descent, I do understand the sentiment of wanting to persevere your culture. Unlike many other ethnic groups in the USA (Italians, Irish, Germans) the presence of Francophones is not very visible, because of the relatively small amount of french descendants compared to some other groups. Even in my state of Maine, which is the highest percentage french (25%) finding distinctly french culture has been rather difficult for me, at least in southern maine. Most french culture is mostly just stuff from Catholicism. It also saddens me that both because of public schools discouraging it, and because of it not being as useful, the amount of french speakers in Maine has continued to decrease.
HOWEVER I honestly find the situation with Quebec kinda ridiculous, keeping your culture alive is one thing, but discouraging and outright banning aspects of other peoples’ culture to keep your culture from ever changing is not right.
It was not fair for the English speaking Americans to suppress the French immigrants of Maine and Louisianas’ culture, and repeating it in Quebec is also reprehensible.
I’ve only been to Quebec once, so obviously I am by no means an expert on this. This is just how it is appearing to me in the US. I still love Quebec, I’m just questioning it’s leadership.:(
Well if you knew about Quebec and Canada’s history you will understand why Quebecers decided to isolate themselves from anglophone and live their lives without being worried to get constantly assimilate
@@b0xb0x87 I understand why they did it, I just feel they are going about it the wrong way now.
@@americanminotaur2518 what do you exactly mean by “the wrong way”
@@americanminotaur2518 Province of Manitoba was mainly a french province in the past. Being bilingual, french completely disappeared, now it is an anglophone province. New-Brunswick is the only official bilingual province in Canada and the story is repeating. Back then, when bill 101 passed in Quebec, it was severely criticized and seemed extreme by the anglophones but it assured the survival of the french Canadians culture, in a era where the assimilation was in progression and going hard. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. For non-residents of Quebec and anglophones residents, laws that implies protection of the French language always seem a bit extreme. You really have to dig in history of Canada and see what happened to understand the particular french/english relations in Quebec and Canada, through the time.
As an Acadian that lived both in Québec and New-Brunswick, I see my language getting slowly closer to death in both provinces every year, I think Québec is not doing enough, and I think New-Brunswick is definitely not doing enough. When I hear how francophones are doing in the US I can't help but feel sad for you guys.
The english population was the first minority my J.J! You should know that.
Exactly what I thought!
Yes, but they're not now.
Sorry, but this is 2020, and it is no longer the minority. So fuck your history, what worked a couple hundred years ago doesn't necessarily work now.
by that logic then Americans should be speaking a Native American language because in the early days, they were once the minority.
I am from quebec and i'm young so i dont know everything about this culture war that's been going on but i believe that french is an important part of our culture we need to preserve it. I also think that in the world we live in it's became an obligation to speak english so i understand english canadians point of view. But just imagine if it was the other way around and your province was the only one speaking english in this country you would probably react the same way we do
Just speak French at home and in your community. Will you be prevented from doing that if people will be allowed to put up signs in whatever language you want? You sound like people who want to ban the burqa in European countries
@@rezajafari6395 no, but we’re surrounded by English, French is our language and we’re the only French speakers in North America with our territory, we have to protect it because it’s a part of our national identity, comparing us to conservative dumbasses is oh so wrong, it’s not the English billboard that is going to kill Quebec French but it’s an amalgamation of different small things
@@Bonoboorg shut up, immigrants are doing fine speaking their native language at home and speaking English outside. You Frenchies aren't special so quit crying
It just makes more sense for the French minority to learn English than the English majority to learn French.
@@bigredracecar27 dude, québécois aren't imigrants...
This guy convinces me we're not the same culture at all.
I know right, he’s so stuck in his bias that he just says straight up nonsense for about 15 minutes
I find this video very interesting since I’m a trilingual Quebec-born Mexican/French Quebecker Canadian and for living here all my life, I surely have a point of view that is a bit different. Quebec wants, to my understanding, be seen as the territorial “home for French speakers of North America” without separating from the country. That leads to some kind of double standard citizen acceptation because Quebec is welcoming newcomers from everywhere in the world that speaks French and want to learn French to find jobs within the province. With companies needing so much manpower, the current government assumes that an opportunity is there for everyone as long as they have a standard of education in Quebec French culture and history. It can be a roadblock for immigrants that can’t learn the language but let’s immigrants from everywhere that know Quebec culture shine here. My dad Is a trilingual Mexican immigrant and found a job as a French teacher here for immigrants like him. The province has given him the opportunity to have a family without discrimination. This is different, though, for people that won’t ever learn French. I’m really attached to Canadian cultures but I also see how Quebec culture is important as a core culture for my future life because all opportunities are in French here. That doesn’t make me unable to show love for my Mexican heritage as everyone is interested by multiculturalism as long as you can express it in French when it comes to the majority of the people in the province. That’s how I see things living there, in Quebec.
Le mec il critique les minorités québécoise à l'extérieur du Québec qui demande plus de reconnaissance de la langue française mais il veut que les anglophones aient plus de place au Québec...
ma nigga il ya des autres minorité dans le canada
Les francais hors de québec sont especiellement priviligé car leur langue primaire est recognisée comme une langue officiale au canada même si leur population est plus petit que des autres minorités
aucunement neutre, mais c'est ce qui lui attire des vues...
@@coolguy4306 Ils devraient avoir droit au même traitement que reçoivent les anglophones minoritaires du Québec. De même pour les peuples autochtones. Ce ne sont pas des immigrants mais des fondateurs. Ils ont fait ce pays.
@@francinesalvas580 ils ont créé le québec mais pas le canada. Le plupart du pays n'ont pas le même culture ou les mêmes valeurs que des quebecois. Je crois que les punjabis á surrey ont fait plus que les québecois sans être raciste et snobby
There is also the possibility to live in two language country without major problems. In Finland the second official language is Swedish. Therefore I had to study it in school, but personally, I didn't learn it and after passing the final examination in university (even in that time I just pass the examination) and today I can't speak Swedish at all (I can understand it a little bit). This hasn't been major political issue in Finland for quite long I will add a link to Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland
This is very interesting. My brother (who is Irish) married a woman who lives in Sweden (far from the Finland border) but her family is from Finland originally. So they speak the Finnish language at home. As a result my brother moved to Sweden to live near her family. He learned the Swedish language fluently, and has learned a great deal of Finnish because they have two little boys. The boys are growing up bilingual at home. Mommy speaks Finnish to them and Daddy speaks English. They will learn Swedish by natural exposure from the society they live in. In effect they will be tri-lingual with no effort on their part. A great gift.
8:00 French is spoken by more than 500 million people across the world and its importance will grow due to the economic growth in French-speaking Africa.
As someone who was learning French in a place that it never was really useful to know, yeah, it becomes much harder to learn and is extraordinarily difficult to become fluent.
This kind of reminds me of the language rivalry of Finland. The 2 official languages are Finnish and Swedish. Only about 10% of the country's population speaks Swedish as their main everyday language, especially in the coastal Ostrobothnia region. All Finnish school kids have mandatory Swedish languages classes, but most of it do grudgingly. They complain about why should they have to learn a minority language.
I think a surprisingly large number of countries have stuff like this. Switzerland has 4 official languages and it's pretty much the same. We all learn french but no one speaks it because it's not really relevant in our daily lifes.
All Finnish school kids have mandatory Swedish classes, but so too do all Swedish-speaking kids have ‘mandatory’ Finnish classes.
Are math, history, science and phys. ed not mandatory?
Hi there J.J.
I'm French and I've got the chance to go to Ontario these last months. I think that you need to mention that in a historic manner, French speakers were not so lucky among the English majority: look at Lousiana, a million people were speaking French there in the 70's. But after laws facilitating the suppression of the French language, they are about 100 000 speaking french Cajun now. What I'm saying is, your country has two official languages. Canada is lucky to have this cultural strength and should stick to it.
How is it lucky? If you live in Alberta like me it means that you have pay Quebec 13 billion in transfer payments every year just to protect their privileged entitlement.
Definitely a two wrongs don’t make a right category. It was wrong of Quebec to target/ignore the English speaking minority just as it was wrong of US and Louisiana to target/ignore the French speaking minority
@@zachadolphe3633 What does payment transfers have to do with French language protection measures? Moreover, JJ mostly argues that those measures make no sense OUTSIDE Quebec. Transfer payments is about richest provinces money being redistributed to the poorest (including English speaking Atlantic provinces I assume). This has nothing to do with Quebec being privileged. You can be against wealth redistribution but this feels like you just decided to scapegoat Quebecers.
As an American, Quebec looks more like a country to me than Canada. Quebec acts more like a country than Canada itself.
Completely off-topic: I dig the Buc-ee's shirt. If you've never been to one, it's a ridiculously oversized gas station with a gift shop and restaurant. They exist mostly in the southern US. My wife and I visited one on a road trip to Florida. I didn't really enjoy it as it was way too crowded. But from what I gather, they take very good care of their employees, so I approve!!
All the triggered Quebecois and English Canadians in the comments
Me: **Laughs in American**
Its so weird to research or look about political problems in Canada from an American perspective, I mean California alone has 2.5 million more people that the WHOLE COUNTRY of Canada, its just weird
Go laugh in fortnite
wtf ....
@@AtomicBoo It's even weirder for a Californian. Everyone else jokes we are an amalgam of Canada and some communist state (currently popular, Venezuela) but the divides don't feel as strong here as they do for Canadians it seems. We often get this outside image of Canada as this peaceful happy place, not seeing it's divisions.
"(...) I didn't like that Francophones were being compared to Chinese or other cultures."
If that isn't stereotypically racist, I don't know what is.
Imagine that Canada was predominantly French speaking and had an English minority. (And let's say the US was taken over by aggressive Louisiana Creoles or something.) The English minority in Canada sees its best chances of survival in sticking with the Canadian francophone majority, yet they want their British traditions (tea at 4) and English language protected. The country adopts the French civil code for most of the country, with a small part of it using British common law. The French Canadians recognize English Canadians as a founding nation, even though they are a minority. For a century the country grows along these foundational lines that have been set.
The 20th century rolls along, and in the second half of it large numbers of immigrants speaking Chinese, Arabic and Yoruba arrive. The French Canadian majority recognizes these groups as having the same rights as English Canadians, who have been here almost as long as the French. An English Canadian politician says she doesn't like that these other groups are being given the same status as anglophones. Now, would that statement be racist?
@@joetoh6675 Yes. Claiming to be the superior race of a certain country and to deserve a better treatment than other races is racist. Or chauvinist, if it's about nationality and not race.
@@user-sm5sj6mg2t I don't see it as the group claiming to be a superior race or nationality, rather an established culture. This includes, importantly, the legal system, which is an embodiment of core values.
What would a country become if it started to accommodate Sharia law or Confucian justifications of authoritarianism, simply because of new immigrants?
@@user-sm5sj6mg2t How not wanting to be lumped in a multicultural melting-pot when you are one of the founding peopl of this country is racist? Are you just pretending or are you really that stupid?
@@coincoindelacanardiere3958 Peut-être il est si bête et jj aussi. Il s'agit de "anglo privilege", ou peut-être de "anglo insecurity".
Qu'est-ce que c'est frustrant de voir des anglophones parler ainsi d'une langue qu'ils ne connaissent même pas!
Vraiment!
Amélie Marquis C’est un peut comme les prêtres qui on fait l’éducation sexuelle de nos parents😂
Stéphane Smith totalement d’accord 😂
Someone translate please
@@nikbow3353 Google translate?
Really, ethnic cleansing ? This is really an insult to the victims of real ethnic cleansing. What Bill 101 did was mainly to assure that the children of immigrants go to French schools so that newcomers would be able to communicate with the majority, and that public signage would be In French. Looks like a lot of Anglos freaked out because Quebecers were waking up after being oppressed by the Catholic church for more than a century and didn't want to stay uneducated and poor, but you know, you still can live in Montreal without speaking French ; English is very much well and alive. And contrary to what you are saying, French-Canadians are more fluent than ever thanks to the internet.
Around 07:00, of course there are historical reasons for French being treated differently than other languages, French were the first Europeans to settle here. Canadiens literally meant for a long time French speaking people in Canada (Les Canadiens de Montréal has its origin in that fact). And like any minority society, of course it wants to preserve itself and assimilate its newcomers. Can't see why this is bad, but I guess it is because I'm racist.
Though I agree you shouldn't have to speak French if you live in Ontario or Alberta - in fact anywhere outside Quebec and NB -, but it is not because you don't share the post-national wet dream Trudeau wishes that it makes you xenophobic. Au contraire, there must be some values that we inherited that are worth to be kept if all the planet wants to come live here. There would be a lot more to say mais ça va faire la job pour l'instant.
“Queberckers were waking up after being oppressed by the Catholic Church”
Lol another Québécois lie told in modern mythology.
It does beg the question though, given how important shared religion is to maintaining an ethnos that if Quebeckers just gave up Their religion there’s no reason they can’t be made to give up the langauge either
This isn't a myth, French-Canadians stopped massively and suddenly to attend mass, at the same time they started to name themselves Québécois (instead of French-Canadians). In fact, the rejection of Catholicism became a pillar of the modern Québécois identity@@eriknervik9003 (it is probably the main reason we changed our name). But not the rejection of French. Maybe one day Canada and the USA will form one big, perfect and sleek anglosphere but that day is not here yet.
Trilingual superstar? Most Quebec immigrants speak their mother tongue, learn French through francisation and eventually learn English if they didn't speak it before immigrating.
Correct. Especially true in Montréal.
We are talking outside of Quebec
Most immigrants don’t live in Quebec.
It's quite racist for JJ to say that only white people can gain proficiency in English and French. Growing up in western Canada, neither of my parents spoke English or French as a first language, yet I've gained some proficiency in French. I think there will be a lot of trilingual speakers in Canada in one more generation. One doesn't need to be a superstar to be trilingual, just diligent and persistent.
Le Canada sera encore plus fort grace à son population qui peut apprécier les autres cultures et capable à parler plus qu'un, ou même plus que deux, langues. Voilà ce n'est pas parfait, mais je continue à étudier le français parce que je me sens qu'il est mon devoir à le faire, comme citoyen canadien. Ça aide dans la vie privé aussi.
@@DK-bc2hk Québec receives 54 000 immigrants every year
I think it's really weird that someone outside of Quebec and who doesn't speak a word of french thinks he has the right to 'inform' people about Quebec's politics. I mean, why do you feel the need to talk trash about Quebec in many of your videos?
He’s Anglosplaining.
He would do everything just to get likes
Parce que ça fait des views!
I wonder if he thinks giving money to First Nations is a "flawed understanding of history" too? Hey, maybe it IS! Dangerous thinking time!
But the world will have to deal with the French fact in Quebec. They are sitting on 25% of all freshwater lakes in the world. Hook them up to drain into the oceans, it's hydroelectricity. The fed tried to take back some of that by granting huge ahistorical territory to Labrador, but not all of it. To get clean power once petroleum is outlawed, North America will have to order it in FRENCH!
He isn’t trash talking he is simply stating facts . And why is it a crime to understand Quebec politics, if you want to improve Canada you have to understand Quebec politics
I can only recommend watching Thomas Gauthier's videos as well, just to get a different perspective on things. It should help people making up their own minds.
Since not many people speak French as it is less useful than English most people won't be able to understand it. Funny right?
@@courier3567 It's subtitled...
@@AtzeHHouseWell that is great I just find it funny how if the video wasn't subtitled non French speakers wouldn't be able to understand him
@@courier3567 Of course we can't understand all languages I'm sure you don't understand Chinese videos as well so what
@@courier3567 Well, his goal was to be respectful and give information to other people, funny how if you would have learned another language like we all did here we wouldnt be talking about it. Pauvre con.
I have a solution for you. How about Québec becomes its own country and you dont have to deal with us anymore?
“Just like your parents”
Very insulting towards the ones whose parents never split.
OAC hallucinating 😂
Thomas is really funny
@André Lussier ... nah
Well, I am not from that part of the world, but rather from Brazil and there's only one thing I'd like to say: ici on est avec vous, nos frères et sœurs québécois.
medrci...il y a des gens qui comprennent notre réalité
Merci✌️
Merci beaucoup
Um diplomata brasileiro já disse que os quebequenses são latinos do Norte. Obrigado
Obrigado
And yes, politicians DO need to speak French. You can't lead a country If you can't address 22% of the population (French Canadians)
TdwtSierraFan BRUH, most Quebicis speak English too
Keemstar Kreamstar as second, third or fourth language like me. I want my politicians to speak to me in French the same way an Anglophone speaking French needs his politicians to speak English to him. Most Finnish speak English. Does it mean that their politicians should talk English only? Ridiculous.
Big Fatburn Dumbass most Quebecis aren’t “learning English” they know it well. That’s like the president of Brazil having to address his citizens in Spanish or the President of America the same.
Keemstar Kreamstar I really don’t understand what you think
Staline a gouverné la lune Most Quebecis are very fluent in English, meanwhile not all Canadian laymen are very fluent in french.
I'm not Canadian, but I personally like that Quebec requires its immigrants to adopt the local language and assimilate into the culture. That should be the bare minimum when you immigrate somewhere, I think every country should adopt such a policy, including the rest of Canada. It's a very good thing.
I think it's rather ridiculous to compare Francophones to Chinese. French speakers have a history and culture in the region going back centuries, and are a very sizable minority in one province (New Brunswick) and majority in Quebec. 22% of Canadians speak French natively.
It's like someone comparing Syrian refugees in Turkey to Kurds. One is a sizable, linguistic and cultural minority with ties to the country. The other are recent arrivals. It's not the same. There's also a lot of immigrants in Canada who are themselves native french speakers, and would prefer moving to Montreal over Toronto (such as Haitians, many West Africans, etc.) So it's not the "us or them" as depicted in the video. Many times, the immigrants don't speak English or French, so learning either one is equally difficult.
I'm a bilingual 'minority' Canadian, hardly would call myself a 'superstar' lol, I'm pro-French but you raise good points.
Hi J.J. McCullough,
Thank you for your perspective! It really helps in my understanding of how English Canadians perceive the French fact and the place of Québécois in the Canadian confederation. Though it might not be your intention, you also make a strong argument for the independence of Québec, which I support as I came to the same conclusion as you: our country is very shaky due to linguistic duality and the new post-national project for Canada. The only way for this new country to work is for the Québécois to assimilate and speak English… And we all know it’s not going to happen. There is bound to have tensions in light of our two competing visions for this country. So it’s either asymmetrical federalism or an independent Québec. Canadians need to understand this, and start to support Quebec independence if they cannot accept asymmetrical federalism.
I understand the argument you make about the immigrant minorities vs. the French Canadian minorities. This is starting to be quite the norm in English Canada too, where the two-nation theory has clearly lost the battle. However, I find it really wrong to equate French Canadians to immigrants. Immigrants generally come from an already established foreign country with sovereignty, which has its own customs and language, and are recognized throughout the world. For instance, it’s very clear where the Vietnamese come from and what it means, culturally, to be Vietnamese. There are no two Vietnamese people, they are a distinct people with their own sensibilities. So when they come to Canada, they bring this cultural background with them, but this cultural background still exist in their native Vietnam and the culture continues to exist and adapt over there even when they’re gone. In the grand scheme of things, it is not a tragedy if they or their children end up assimilating to Canada, because their culture and their language still exist in their country of origin.
Much like the Vietnamese, the French Canadians are a distinct people with their own sensibilities, their own customs, their own flavour of French and their own history. They have grown separately to France culture, ever since the beginning of the colony, since they had to adapt to the new environment, change the way they cultivate food, the way they build houses, the way to deal with weather; they mixed with other people (Native People, Irish, Scottish, English and subsequent waves of immigration); had other historical events (e.g. France’s revolution VS Québec conquest in 1759). This means we have this distinct people with their own sensibility, but they do not possess a sovereign state. They are a stateless nation residing in Canada.
When Canada tries to give more power to the French language in Canada, which as you said doesn’t quite measure up with the prestige of the English language, it’s to protect in some way the “diversity of the world”, to protect this people which exists nowhere else than in Canada. If Canada does nothing to level out the playing field, it is covertly advocating for cultural genocide of this particular people. As this is what happens when you “let the market regulates itself”: you kill the little ones who would have never stood a chance anyway. Doing nothing is doing something. Imagine Joe Bleau’s store in this small town who got totally crushed by the arrival of Wal-Mart; after the fact we wonder, could we have done something to help it? Maybe the government could have given some “tax credit” for him to be more competitive or even regulate prices of the Wal Mart itself so that it is still fair play for Joe Bleau’s store. This is what Québec is doing with Law 101 and the federal with the Official Languages Act: it is trying to save Joe Bleau’s store which is sitting besides this huge Wal Mart. Some say that Joe Bleau’s store should just move to another town where there’s no Wal Mart (myself, an independentist), some people advocate for a free market saying the tides of the markets are inevitable and that we shall not try to act upon them (J.J. McCullough), some people advocate for super intense market regulation mandated by the government in the hope Joe Bleau’s store could compete against the giant and cohabit peacefully (delusional Québec federalists).
So our points converge in some way J.J. I think the current situation is unfair to the both of us, and tensions will escalate quickly in light of our very different visions for the direction of Canada. I don’t want to be accommodated, I just want to exist and be recognized as an important part of this country’s history and constitution. It seems difficult, if not impossible, for Canadians to do that, and thus I think it’s better to part ways. No hard feelings!
I would really like your insight or that of English Canadians on this.
My thinking is that it is vastly more likely, plausible, and realistic for the Quebeckers to just embrace English rather than form an independent country over a linguistic dispute. French will always be part of Quebec culture, but language is primarily a tool of communication, and the Quebeckers have staked out an absurdly uncompromising position on the French language that is deforming Canadian politics and government in a very dangerous and unsustainable way. I've been to so many countries around the world where English fluency is extremely widespread and yet they still retain their native tongue, even when that native tongue is a language even less globally useful than French.
Sabrina Mercier Wow, I support this! Salutations d'Allemagne
@@JJMcCullough J.J., thank you for answering me! As you might have noticed, I am not a native English speaker: I am a Francophone. I also speak Spanish at an intermediate level and know the basics of German. I know very well the importance of English as a global language, but also that of the other languages as they give me access to a vast array of beautiful and unique cultures. Language is not merely a tool, it is a key that opens the door to another culture and a whole other way to envision the world. Much like Canadian French is the key to a vibrant culture of 400 years young. From the last letter of Chevalier de Lorimier before he was hung by the British to the festive folk songs of La Bottine Souriante: one cannot fully understand and appreciate the sensibility of that culture without that very important key.
About 10 years ago, I was unilingual like you. I also thought language was just a tool and thus I was frustrated my parents couldn’t send me to English schools due to Law 101. At one point, I moved to Montreal and started to immerse myself a bit more in English, and go study in English at university… As I felt I was “losing” my language due to not using it as much and forgetting the most common words of my language in favour of English, I started to realize the value of my native language. It’s when you experience linguistic duality that you can really measure its importance. I am very much open to English and so are most of people my age, but it doesn’t change the fact that French is our native language and that we would never abandon it because it would be seen as more practical to do so.
As I said before, the Québécois will never agree to abandon their language because it inconveniences English Canadians to treat us as their equal. So what solution do we have now? My dear J.J., if you’re to the point where you advocate for cultural genocide, you really have to take a step back and reevaluate the your own set of values. There are other more pertinent way to use your time to get rid of that pesky French elite: make them leave Canada. Put the money where the mouth is; make a donation to either OuiQuébec, the Parti Québécois or the Bloc Québécois. Or continue just like you do with these videos, you really help the cause.
The independence movement is not merely about language, it is about the cultural survival of a whole people, it is about their longing to have a place to finally call home, just as we are. Like most people in the world, to be free and to own one’s decisions. I repeat, we will never abandon our language and culture; we have been fighting for 250 years to preserve them, and we went from 60,000 people to 10 million. The time of assimilation is long gone; we will not disappear. Really understand this.
@@JJMcCullough I don't agree with everything you say, but I do agree with Sabrina that you are bringing valid points regarding forced Bilingualism, and I am pretty much drawn to the same conclusions as hers. Let's just have that divorce, no hard feelings.
I think the disagreement, at its core is, as you put it, "language is primarily a tool of communication". I don't agree with this, it's a part your identity, of what makes you who you are. If you put that logic to the extreme, all those countries you visited that have English fluency would be better off dropping their native language and just speak English. Why don't they?
I read that article in the Guardian a few months ago, with a link to a video where a lawyer in NYC lost his sh*t in front of everybody because the workers behind the counter were speaking Spanish. The guy got lynched in the media and had to apologise, but regardless of what you, or I, or anybody might think of this, it has to do with him feeling his identity was threatened. Another example I can come up with is 10-15 years ago, some musicians recorded a Spanish version of this US anthem, and there was that whole controversy in the media because of it. Again, regardless of what you or I may be thinking, it struck an identity vibe of the American people. Whenever you hear "speak Amuhrican", it encompasses the fact that it's more than just a language as a tool of communication, it's part of what they consider their identity.
Anyway, I still do like the English perspective you're bringing about Quebec, and looking forward for more videos from you.
Peace.
Thank you for this comment, it really details exactly how i feel as a now (mostly) bilingual native french canadian. Now we basicaly have to decide if the economical benefit of Canada are worth disapearing as a culture. The awnser to this question is not the same for everyone. I personaly feel like Quebec independence could be done the right way, with freedom of movement, freetrade, dual citizenship. Hopefully Canada and Quebec can divorce and still stay friends after.Also im not afraid of losing on federal transfert, this is the base argument for so many people who dont' understand how these transfers work in the first place. If nation like Kosovo can be independent, im fairly confident we can manage.
"Canada's first minority" hahaha very funny. At first French were a majority.
Majority white ethnicity*
@@deancuban894 da faq u mean?
Richard Thomas hi, just thought I correct the percentage of French in Canada. Outside of Quebec, Canada is overwhelmingly English at 97% of the Country. But, if we factor in Quebec then the French minority accounts for 20% or 1/5th of total population l. Thanks 🙏🏻
Not anymore. Use today's stats and not 1825's stats.
I'm on a watch spree through your videos. As a swiss, with swiss german as my native language, this is interesting and absurd to watch. My country is quadrilingual, but even though I had to learn french in school, these days when i meet with a countryman from the french part, we simply speak english.Saves him the trouble of learning german, me the trouble of learning french and we can follow youtube videos like this without any troubles. Sometimes I feel my country is weird, but when I look how other countries work and function, i realize every country is weird in a way 😁 btw, there's an old saying here that canada is just a big switzerland. you just profed that saying to be false hehe
@@bingodeluxe We all make fun of each other here. But it is a friendly banter as far as I am concerned. The italian part of switzerland was conquered by the old swiss confederation too, but nowadays they are just swiss like the rest. Also they aren't technically swiss italians, swiss french and swiss germans.. they are all just swiss. As far as I know, and please correct me when I am wrong, there's a law in Canada that you have to speak english and french to become a member of parliament? This is Nonsense for a swiss. You have the right to get everything translated here, so if I don't understand a french speaker of parliament or an italian speaking head of state, I can insist on having a translator. The issue with making everything equal is that it creates a barrier. Just accept facts. Romansh is the fourth language in switzerland, but only around 40'000 people speak it fluently. That's less than 1%. But still that is not an issue, they have the same rights as everyone else to preserve their language and culture than anyone else. We are stronger together and due to the challenges dealing with different languages, cultures and religions, we get stronger as a whole. We are better together than apart, and that is what defines us as swiss
C’est dégoûtant! L’anglais n’est pas une langue suisse!
@@bingodeluxe L’allemand, le français et l’italien sont des langues de Suisse 🇨🇭. Et c’est quoi le problème dans l’apprentissage de 3 langues? Vous êtes paresseux?
@@bingodeluxe Quoi? Flat… what?
Maybe it is because you are not the only French speaking nation in North America surrounded by 350 millions of English speaking people ?
As a multilingual European who was born in Canada I believe the entire problem lies in the fact that you don't speak French (?), or any other language other then English (?). My experience tells me that once someone learns how to properly use a language they also learn to respect it, cherish it, and protect it if needed - and you clearly are not doing that. I believe Canada is one of the best countries in the world, exactly because Canadian politicians are taught humility and respect by the fact that they have to learn to express themselves in another language, and through this they learn to see things from a different perspective - which is of IMMENSE value for the quality of democracy, and it is something that only someone who has gone through the process can see, understand and properly cherish. So it doesn't really matter if Canada is English-French speaking or Mandarin-Martian speaking, the issue is making sure that Canada remains bilingual (or maybe multilingual someday) - and that requires keeping both official languages well and alive. And while I am open to adding more language to the mix someday, I think it is more important to make sure French remains strong both inside and outside of Quebec first, as it faces pressure from English.
How ironic given that Trudeau doesn't possess any of those values (coming from someone who speaks french and english).
@ Konrad of Kraków: Very well said!
*other THAN English (?).
I'm Eastern European,
Even i know the difference between then and than.....
@Richmond Li French is a central part of the history of Canadian confederation, so it has a place at the federal level in ANY place that is in the confederation. Go ahead and make Cantonese an official language of BC. Next you’ll have demands that Mandarin replace Cantonese. Then in the future, Bengali or whatever. What I’m saying is that it doesn’t make sense to make a language an OFFICIAL language (that would be used in the legislature, for example) based only on current numbers, because those fluctuate. What doesn’t fluctuate is the fact that anglo Canada would inevitably merge with the US if the Quebec portion secedes. I think Canadians should strive for a basic level in THREE languages: the two official ones and any third one. Many benefits come with learning other languages, as discussed elsewhere on this page.
@KonradofKrakow Vous avez très bien exprimé des sentiments que je partage. Tant qu'Américain et quelqu'un qui vit à Montréal, la situation serait tellement mieux si le peuple entier du Canada était bilingue pour que tout le monde puisse mieux comprendre (ou que les anglophones du Canada puisse mieux comprendre le Québec).
When you immigrate, you are expected to assimilate to the culture and language of the country. Francophones of Ontario did not immigrate, they have lived here for generations, this is their land as much as the anglophones. Therefore, it is expected that the government builds institutions for them as well.
Dude, French Canadians are the least assimilated people in canada. Canada should have a single official language, English. Btw, I'm fluent in french.
@@bigboy3454 Why should they be assimilated if they are not immigrants?
@@rotters2556They are immigrants, if you are not First nation you are an immigrant.
@@bigboy3454 Then you're not consistent, why should the langugage be english and not the first nation's language?
@@rotters2556 It would still be english, because the first nation don't have a single language they have multiple. Plus, the majority of first nation speak english has either their first language or second language.
"There is no core identity in Canada", but there is in Quebec, which is one more reason for us to gtfo asap.
Great. Just do so without reaping the benefits of Canada. Oh but wait, you guys don't want to unless you get special treatment.
Reeven I would never want to separate our beautiful province from this amazing country, vive le Canada
@@yournamehere3468 Canada is one of the oldest countries in North America but it's the only one with "no core identity". This is ridiculous. What a shame.
@@yournamehere3468 We want to get out since the 70's but everytime youre begging us to stay make up your mind
@@gevy4127 ils veulent pas perdre nos ressources. c'est tout.
as a black Canadian, born and raised his entire life in Canada (never been to Quebec), i love having french be an aspect that separates Canada from other cultures like the US. it feels like a European country in North America, which is a nice change to see. the 29 countries where french is spoken natively can freely settle in Canada, and contribute to the country. and i just enjoy hearing french around me sometimes more than english, it feels really exotic and fun
this isn't any argument for french being a priority, this is just a subjective opinion.
11:52 - 12:13
I mean duh, the kid immigrated to Vancouver, of course he's gonna learn English, but if he wants to represent a country with a second official language (french) he has to learn this language? O U T R A G E. But if the kid immigrated to Québec, he would have learned french, he still wants to be a great politician tho, so since he's in Canada, you know, where you speak both english and french, he's gonna have to learn english. Which is perfectly comprehensible since e great portion of Canada speaks english. I just hate how they always turn the language issues into a one way conversation, making us look evil to anyone who didn't take the time to do their own research
Only 7.2 m speak French about 20% of Canadians, most of whom are in Quebec. While 98% of Canadians speak English, throughout Canada. It's bs that 20% percent of the population have control the political system, while the rest just have to follow the elites.
@Frederic Lapierre obviously the majority of the 20% who speak French also speak English. So they're in 98 % . LoL I'm taking a screen shot of this.
@Frederic Lapierre how old are you?
@@deathflame3849 It is 74% of population who speak English at home ; 24% speak french at home. 2% speak other language. 3 of 4 founding province of Canada at bilingual at 85%.
i hope you didn't type this at work!
Being half Belgian and half Canadian but from both the French part I see that in Belgium the French speakers are the bad students and don't learn Dutch (not as well as the Flemish who are often able to speak french) but in Quebec I see a difference and quebecers are often pretty keen on learning English and are good at it (the young generation).
I think that either way learning a new language is important. I believe that in Belgium we should keep on teaching Dutch and German to French speakers and in Canada we should keep on teaching French to ''english'' Canadians.
Useful or not the knowledge of another language is always beneficial.
Non !
Je prefere noyer mes enfants que de les autoriser a parler ce patois infâme !
@@osez111 t'es belge ou quebecois? lol
I am a very liberal person in Canada, but these videos really do highlight a strange assumption that French Canadians (predominantly white) are somehow more oppressed than every other minority in Canada
I wouldn't say we are more oppressed, but as a French Canadian from New Brunswick, the only officially bilingual province with about a third of its residents natively speaking French, I say we are about as equally oppressed when we are not in a French speaking region. The difference lies more in the number of native French speakers, more than 20% of canada is native French speaker so you will hear them much more loudly.
Me: sitting on my couch enjoying the battle.
Great content bro, always fun to watch squabbles between French and English.
I don't speak a word of French. Still, Bravo to Fench resilience to reserve their language against nontheless English, which is about to cull out increasing numbers of languages globalwise. Even in my own country, it's considered elite and cool to speak English, whereas in some countries, kids can't even speak their own indiginous language properly, such as the Philippines, no offense.
I admit it's brought me much convenience speaking English, yet still, some language has to stand up against the monopoly.
Go, French! Go, Francophone!
if you can't speak french, you mind your own business.
@@trevorchabot864 shut up he’s on our side they don’t have to speak French as long as they’re on our side. Some English Quebecers decides to stays in Quebec because they’re on our side.
@@wheretherivernarrowsball7551 no they don't. Tayeule du potato.
@@trevorchabot864 y’on pas dit rien d'méchant, faque ta yeule pis laisse moi écouter le show d'la st-Jean
@@wheretherivernarrowsball7551 I know. You worship anyone named Jean.
JJ just Mad because he probably failed French in High School 😂
maybe but he is being rational
Octavio Rosen B/c he knew it’d be useless...
And Thomas Gauthier is better looking than him.
Seen how he pronounced "Maître chez nous" indeed
@@bruv5115 Rational? Yeah, this Guy promote the Canadian gouvernement in 1867 that the Western Province of Canada have any human soul except from the BC. Denied the existence of 31 millions Métis disperce in Manitoba (representing 88% of the Population of this Province), in Saskatchewan (75% population of this Province) and Alberta (55% of the population of this Province).
He claim that is Undemocratic and Elitist To force people to learn French, but denied that was Undemocratic and Elitist To force people to learn English when French Canadian was the Majority.
PS
My stats is from one of my Uncle who work in London (England) in a special archive who rescence the None-Anglophones population in the British Empire since It's creation.
Imagine you, 88% of the population of Manitoba have virtually the right to speak their languages but infact have no right to Speak in French, Don't have the right to have their own Schools and hospitals.
Now, 6% Speak French in Manitoba, what is ironic... 65% of the Manitoban Family name are French... Saskatchewan speak now only 1% in French for 45% French Family name and Alberta, 6% Speak French when 40% of the Family name are French...
You see how his historical facts are unacquirate?
When Quebec had the independence referendum , if I remember correctly , it was the rest of Canada rallying that Quebec stay's in the Constitution & unify the nation as a whole.So WTF , dude , make up ur mine .
EXACTLY
@@gabrielcollin8276 When Quebec held their referendum, they told us they wanted to be Canadian. Since then, all we've heard is how much they hate Canada. So, the time for referendums is over. It is time now for Canada to partition Quebec and declare our independence. Vive le Canada libre!
@@junipervip681 I agree with you on some points, time for referendum is indeed over. But honestly, a 50.5% vs a 49.5% vote, says that the people were and still are very torn by the subject
@@gabrielcollin8276 Whatever they were "torn" about then is pretty much irrelevant some 25 years later. Times have changed. Canadians have put up with incessant anti-Canada rhetoric out of Quebec and have had enough. Canadians don't need another referendum to tell us what we must do. Canada must partition Quebec and declare our independence. That is the only way our nation can grow and progress. Quebec could have its own country now, merely by agreeing to partition. It's what Canada wants (along with its independence) and what, sooner or later, it will ultimately have.
@Cole deBeer Thanks for the support!
I don’t even live in North America but I still watch this
where do you live?
Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪
Me too - moi aussi 😄
@@EllaGP22 Canada always welcomes leprechauns
Top of da mornin to ya
As someone who resoundingly sides left on almost every issue, I pretty much agree with everything you said.
As a Québécois i dont mind being criticized on our language policies. I understand the privilege aspect of it and the harm it causes to a part of our province. I think its necessary to discuss it but I think this guy does it in a very dishonest way. He goes trough all of the issues with a very relativist tone. He just goes on a rant leaving huge gaps in his rethoric by not giving counterpart arguments. For example he goes saying that french is not an useful language if you compare it to others in the global scape. Wich is factual but very incomplete. We have our own culture and we can connect to alot of part of the world who were colonized by the french. Algeria, Vietnam, Louisiana, Haiti, Congo etc... And hell, all the countries mentioned can immigrate and thrive in Quebec society and take part in quebec francophone culture. I know there is the xenophobia and racism argument. Wich sadly is one of our issue here having an heritage as an oppressed minority ( as white francophones). I think tough that xenophobia is not a default trait here and thats another debate.
For comparison i think its a similar way the struggle the anglo canadian community as a whole has with its identity. What makes a canadian different from an american (culture wise)? Of course there are obvious aspect that does make anglo canadian different from american. Just the fact that that you cant compare New Brunswick culture to praires folk culture shows that Canada has it own flavor. Then there is also the reality tough that Canadian culture ( tv shows, comedy, music) is highly americanzed. That it often ends up being swallowed in the big blob that is american culture. I woulndt go saying that Canada is going to end up the 51th state of america, its disonest and it simplifies all the issues in a very cynic way.
I find it interesting that you qualify the Québec legislation as being tough on english population on one side and yet considering ford option not to fund a french university a reasonable one. While the french population in Ontario is about equivalent in numbers as the english population in Québec, Québec as two major english university(and a minor third one), counless english hospital and so on, while the french people of Ontario have a single hospital and no university. The english population of Quebec is probably the most privileged minority in the world, so all that whinning about the statute of french population in the rest of Canada is kind of laughable, and is forgetfull of the intense assimilation politics of the many english population over the years. As for the historical importance of French in canadian culture, let just say that without it, Canada would just be culturaly indistinguishable of the usa, and that numbers in population are irrelevant, as no matter as few as they are, the aboriginal nations will always be culturaly more significant to the canadian culture and identity than the chinese ou italian population, no matter their numbers. And asking to people to speak french ain’t a racist thing since a language can be learned, not a race.
It took me 8 years to learn how to speak mandarin on the level of a middle schooler, so hearing people be so casual about "language can be learned" upsets me quite a bit. While language is not race, scientific consensus is that it is nearly impossible to become fluent in a new language unless you start learning it before you become 15. So in reality language is actually similar to race in a way, as becoming fluent in a language as an adult is nearly as impossible as changing your own race. You already know how bad criticism is for politicians who have only learned a little bit of french and how unelectable their bad french makes them look.
Then be upset, but a language can be learned. Canadian politicians who do the real effort of learning french are very respected for doing so. For exemple, Stephen Harper was terrible at french when he first became leader of the conservative party, but he learned(he was way past is 15 years old)and was respected for that. He was despise for many things but not for that. Go anywhere in the world and make the effort to talk to people in their natve language, no matter how bad you are at it, of course they’ll laught a bit at you, but never in a disrepectful way, and they’ll always try twice as hard to help you, just because by trying to speak their language, you show that you care about them and their culture, you show a sensibility. If you can’t make the effort, you ain’t worthy of the job and would suck at it anyway since you are culturaly blocking yourself from an important part of the population.
@@argentumoblinit7960 Well you didn’t choose the easoest one buddyt. Mandarin is considered the hardest to learn actualy. It doesn’t even begin to compare to french. Or english for that matter. Over 40% of the words in the english vocabulary have french roots so it ’s not like they are from different planets
I understand you're trying to make a point and maybe your comment is a bit outdated given when it was posted, but your point on French Universities and French hospitals in Ontario is patently false. Ontario has a number of bilingual Universities and francophone universities and french colleges. I've actually studied at the University of Ottawa which is the largest bilingual university in the world and took my courses in French. In fact, the University that Doug Ford tried to reduce funding to ultimately ended opening anyways. And what happened to that university? Well, The Université de l'Ontario français
opened with a whopping 39 applications. In other words, service and resources do exist for francophones in Ontario at the very least, and they are well present.
In terms of learning the french language, I hundred percent agree with you that we should learn french and it's an indispensable part of Canadian culture. En fait, je suis bilingue et je suis fier en tant que Canadien de maitriser les deux langues officielles. The issue is that french education is woefully inadequate in the rest of Canada and the majority of people won't use it in their daily lives. The reality is that in order to be proficient in a langue you have to use it.
@@jonathanberube7815 Languages have tens of thousands of words in them. It isn't a simple thing to learn a new one. I really wish they would make an international language and have everyone learn that. Maybe we can bring back Latin.
Wouldn't be JJ's channel if we didn't get the occasional anti-quebec video
@@eeriekekashi419 you wish
@@eeriekekashi419 cry me a river you stupid anglo, you wanted us to stay in canada now you have to pay for it LOOL
If the French Canadian's started speaking English.. Canada would loose many passionate personally.. When the Quebecer's get Angry .. They get very ANGRY.
JJ’s not anti-Quebec, he‘s anti-petty •
@@warmflash i understand what he's trying to say but unless you put yourself in someone else's shoes, you don't know shit.
like someone says in the comments, nobody wants to be a second class citizen in it's own country
As a French Canadian from Ontario born in Quebec, this was a very interesting video. I do value Canada’s French-English identity but you make a great point about how all individual liberties should be respected equally and while I doubt it will be an all white elite a Franco-English elite that disconnect completely from the rest of Canada would be bad. Idk good thought peace anyways.
They just used you to bring in immigrants. They did in America. They gave Blaks the civil rights. But it was not to help them. As soon they gave everybody the civil rights, they opened the immigration floodgates to non-Europe countries.
I was born in Nepal, but i grew up in QC. As a kid at that time it was hard with the language because I couldn’t speak French but I can speak in English and most of the people in QC would refuse to speak with me in English. I struggle to finish my high school diploma in French since as an immigrant I wasn’t allow to go to English high school. I understand your point of view and specially someone like me who grow up there I can agree with you in certain points. You also need to understand that people from QC fought for their rights and went through lots discrimination in the past and I believe that its ok from them to protect their culture and values...QC is complicated in terms of language and I accept that fact. Apart from that You also need to accept this fact that Quebec is one of the best place to live in Canada and most affordable. Cellphone bills, hydro, insurance, college everything is cheaper then any place in Canada. Maybe Quebec seems complicated for you in politics but what they archive with it is amazing and other provinces in Canada should learn from them.
Nous t'avons fait apprendre le français pour que tu détiennes toutes les clés de ta réussite ici au Québec, la seule société qui fonctionne entièrement en français en Amérique. Ainsi, tu peux te proclamer fièrement Québécois et continuer de faire vivre une autre Amérique avec nous.
Je te remercie pour ton empathie et ta compréhension de l'histoire du Québec. C'est vrai qu'on a une très belle qualité de vie ici, et il faut se le rappeler! Nous sommes vraiment choyés ici, malgré la complexité de la question politique.
kingboss ugamaki I don’t know where you were in QC but it kind of surprises me that people didn’t want to talk in english to you. Usually people at least try their best...
Quebec is on welfare from
The rest of Canada no wonder everything is cheaper, Alberta oil is paying for Québec and canadians tax payers are giving Quebec Social programs.
@@vinmaison2862 oil is not infinite
like me you probably didnt live in Montreal, so English was practicaly non existent in the rest of Qc, now that I live in MTL i am doing the effort to study in an English Cegep to learn and know both languages ....i am happy that i i learned French first tho....its so complicated, i wouldnt learned by my own
Ahhh... Entendre des gens parlez d'un langue sans en connaître aucunes bases... Si frustrant
C’est une langue pas un langue
Leurs opinions sont valides quand même
@@earlem9771 valides? oui,m si pn veut.
Mais VALABLES? lol. Je gagerais pas là-dessus
I learnt a lot of French words from the packaging, in the supermarket.
yaourt
@@minc33 don't say that word if you need to find Yogurt in Quebec ,use Yogourt instead ,the Quécécois version
I think french canadians like me should be consider, be respected and have IMPORTANT services ONLY in other provinces (like ensure a french school alternative). But we should do the same for english and possibly for not official canadian languages like spanish...
I don't mean any disrespect, but your opinion on Quebec here is very conventional from a ROC perspective, which is pretty much the traditional media line. I mean, I understand that the need of bilingualism for government jobs might be understated, other than the Prime Minister of course. But you were subjected to a bit of anti-Quebec disinformation and I want to address some points.
-101 Law: It is NOT an anti-English law. Let me remind you, that learning English here is *obligatory* . I've had English courses since I was 6 y-o. I was learning English litterature and journalism classes (in English only) during my last 3 years in high school. I also had 3 years of Spanish in those 3 years. Yes, we are that chauvinistic and xenophobic.
One thing that you accused us of that I found funny, is privilege. I think YOU are viewing this from your privileged unilingual view of things from Vancouver, where you are very far from any Quebecers and where you are part of the majority. You are very happy to defend minorities (and so are we!), but as long as they have a different skin color. Kinda hypocritical, no? You seem to understand Canadian history only since the Confederation, and only from the ROC point of view. It's a good thing that we are starting to view colonisation from the aboriginal's perspective, but it's impossible for you guys to view Canadian history from the Quebec perspective, why?
Which brings me to the Mordecai Richler's video, which I honestly find, yes, offending. He definitely looked at it from a privileged perspective. Let's call it the Anglo privilege. Did you know, that in the 50s and 60s, French Canadians in Quebec were considered as cheap labor and second-class citizens? The bosses were all Anglos, all the commercial signs were in English, our grandparents had all the shitty low-level jobs because they didn't speak English. Let's not forget that in the 50s and 60s, the French barely spoke English, as the Germans, the Italians, the Poles, the Spanish, etc... It was not the time of the internet and easy travel, where learning English was a given! So you could barely get decent jobs in your own country because even if you were the majority in your province, there were no good jobs in the language of the majority! Bill 101 was exactly to address this issue. And it is an anti-English law? Do you understand how first the English tried to get rid or assimilate us (and remember what they did to the Acadians!) and how afterwards we were considered second-class citizens and cheap labor! Trying to protect our language while we are the majority here is so preposterous? How is this intolerant or xenophobic? You have to look at it from the historical perspective, but NOT from the Anglo perspective, but the perspective of the people who live the reality. You seem to think the Quebec government pushes an agenda on the unwilling population. But let me remind you that the CAQ, for example, got 78% of the Francophone vote, and so far they are only acting from their electoral platform.
And you really need to differenciate between settlers and immigrants, these are not the same thing at all! Any immigrant arriving in Vancouver knows he/she has to learn English. Or if you immigrate to Germany, you need to learn German. But why should we disreguard French and let out culture disappear? If the aboriginal Residential Schools were so bad, why would it be a good thing to let French go? And seriously, comparing us to the Italian and Chinese IS preposterous. Again, we were first settlers here, we did not immigrate to any country where we have to assimilate, we were here! (well, after the colonisation, but before the conquest and the confederation) NO ONE would ever dare compare the aboriginals with the Italian and Chinese! But it is somehow OK to do so with us. And in multicultural Canada, I find the irony sublime: you can't say anything about any minority, unless they are French Canadians, then you can accuse then of all the wrongs. Kinda reminds me of a time when it was natural to hate on Jews!
But why do the media want so much to make us appear like xenophobic assholes, when we only ask for things that are asked everywhere else in the world, INCLUDING Canada!? Simple: separatism. The ROC wants to squash separatism. And the best way to do so, is to deny us as much as they can of our culture and drown us in immigrants who'll only learn English. What did Canada do in the 95 referendum? They naturalised thousands of immigrants in WEEKS instead of YEARS! Because they knew they wouldn't want to immigrate to a country breaking down. But what happens if immigrants who come here and learn French are assimilated to the Quebec culture, as immigrants in Germany learn German and are assimilated to the German culture? Or the same for the US, the UK or France? They might just vote yes in a new referendum. That is why. Because a lot of immigrants who were here for some years DID vote yes in 95. And the ROC knows that. They know how many new Americans or Canadians learn to love their new home. New Quebecers live in Quebec and live the same life as us who have ancestors from France, they live the same reality and the same challenges.
-The idea that biligualism is something that is exclusive to or is mostly privileges white people is utterly wrong. Most immigrants of color learn French before English. And Montreal is the most trilingual city in Canada, French and English being two of them, the other language usually being the mother tongue of immigrants. I'm from Quebec City, and it's not like it's a white only city. Let me remind you, that we get a lot of African and Muslim immigrants from French Africa (a lot from Haiti too), and they don't necessarily speak English (a lot don't). You have to realise that the immigration reality of Quebec and the ROC is entirely different. One perfect example is Indian immigration. There ARE Indian immigrants in Quebec, but not nearly as close to as the rest of Canada, by a longshot. Why? Because India was an English colony. Just look at our parliament, there are quite bit of people of color (surprise, surprise, at the CAQ too!) and immigrants in general. Several of the miniters in our last government were immigrants, and we have two non-white ministers right now. So if they wanted to try at the federal level afterwards, they'd be privileged white francophones?
-One last thing because my post is way too long. The idea of a post-national state is suicidal. If there is no social pact, no common values, no common ground, a country is bound to break down. Let me just remind everyone that democracy, men-women equality are Canadian values for example, among many other things. A nation is not necessarily about being of a skin color or being there "from the beginning", it's about what the country stands for and how we perceive each other. This in itself doesn't negate anyone's other identities, be it cultural or sexual, or whatever. It is just the basic common ground. If there is none, then social cohesion is not possible. Nationalism is not xenophobic or non-inclusive in itself. But like any good thing, it can go too far down the road.
-Okay last. You said that French is not important for politics. That's not true at all. It is one of the official languages of the UN and the European Union as in many other associations. French has been the language of diplomacy for a long time, and it keeps an important role. The actual number of people who speak the language doesn't matter a lot. You're much better off to learn German than Spanish because the German economy is so strong. You're much better off to learn Russian.
Wow cool! We have a professor here! I used to love French, and French Canadian culture and everything Quebecois. Then I moved to Sherbrooke. Couldn't get a job because I couldn't speak French, and more importantly only English. I would apply for a job then come back days later to learn they hired Ivan the immigrant from Russia (who didn't speak French but didn't speak English either so it was ok). Keep in mind I come from a very small town in B.C. then I returned to English Canada, then went to Montreal. I lived there for 6 years. I have never felt so unwelcomed and discriminated against from a group of people; even Quebecois who say they are "woke" will give you this fake news about oppression. While it may seem that Quebecois are open to English only, they are certainly not. The Xenophobia is so rampant that the Neo-nazis are becoming the norm in Quebec city. You can say it's not true, but JJ does have a point. French is a dying language period. Forcing draconian laws to save it is alienating the rest of Canada. This is coming from someone who immersed himself in French culture, excelled at it in school. I have no desire to go back to Quebec or keep learning French. And yes French is Definitely more of a minority than a lot of immigrant languages in the real part of Canada. I would be fine with Quebec separating, at least then the rest of Canada wouldn't be forced into teaching a dying language by xenophobes.
@@DeLuxCombo ferme ta gueule angryphone fruste donneur de lecon de la bonne pensance multiculturaliste marxiste
SpearheadBT Wow! Tout est dit! Merci pour ton commentaire!
@@DeLuxCombo I'm sorry you had to live through that
Gauerman With an attitude like that i understand why they prefered hiring Ivan.
French is still one of the most important languages in the world. It is a really important language in the EU politics, Africa and Canada.
Tim Borovkov Lol....UN and/or Africa...😝😂😁. What does the UN or Africa have to do with Canada? Africa is a Country literally on the complete opposite side of the world. Even in Canada (outside of Quebec), Canadian’s are a massive overwhelming English majority at 97% of the Country. So, French is important to the French minority but has little to zero importance or impact on the English majority in Canada. My twoonies’ worth 🙏🏻
@Critical Unity Est-il vraiment important d'obliger quelqu'un à lire un paragraphe deux fois plus long qu’en anglais?
Critical Unity-Let’s not exaggerate, now. I’ve been comparing multi-language labels for quite some time now, and find French about equal to spanish: only ~60-70% more “verbose.” ;-)
Speaking of Anglophones leaving Quebec: "it's a kind of gentile ethnic cleansing..".... Yeah, surely, like when the French Acadians were forced out of the country they built? :p Alright, I know, two wrongs don't make a right, but anyone who cherishes their culture surely must understand the French-Canadian perspective. I agree, surely, the Quebec Francophile position may have gone too far at times, but it's quite amazing how they've still managed to maintain their language and cultural specificities despite overwhelming odds (ie being surrounded in a continent, and world, where Anglo culture is massively dominant). Kudos to them, but also admittedly, kudos to the Anglos of North America for dealing with them in a rather humane way in the last decades. That's the only reason why the area isn't a clusterfuck, it's that the Anglos had a humanistic strategy regarding Quebec. If the Anglos had been more violent, in the last decades, against Quebec separatism, there's no doubt that the separatist movement would be stronger and a more international affair.
Boi if you are comparing the filthy colonials to actual English people then we *WILL* have a problem
your lucky the british didnt kick them all out
The problem with that argument is that the what the British did to the Arcadians happened 300 yrs ago and as well was a strategic act to ensure control over New Brunswick. In addition to that the French had ousted many a Scottish settler from Nova Scotia.
@@cjryan88 not a history buff I see?
@@olivermcgimpsey841 what is the problem with Quebec wanting to ensure control for the majority of its population and the subsequent immigrants who learn French? It's not like learning French is a handicap like JJ is pretending, it's a part of a cultural identity that helped many things happen, you'd think Jackie Robinson would have been treated this way if de Lorimier stadium was in Toronto? Hell no. There's no need to forcibly create a university where the population of a group is minimal but let's also not forget that until the late 20th century, french education was illegal in Ontario if my memory serves me
I understand your points. Yet, I think monolingual Americans have to learn that learning a language isn’t a big deal. In Europe, like you mentioned, we tend to speak multiple languages.
We’re not blessed by god… you make it sound harder than it is. Teach people languages. It’s good for them. And it is easy too.
There’s no reason why almost everybody in Canada can’t speak both English and french. It’s just another skill.
Europeans learn multiple languages out of necessity . English isn't my first language but i wouldn't bother learning any other if it was
Monolingual english speakers are so cringe
You aren’t blessed by god but you are severely underplaying how much regularly encountering other languages plays a role in their acquisition - If every interaction you can have in hundreds of miles in every direction is in one language it not only seems unnecessary to most but genuinely makes it much harder to actually become proficient