Actually this cartridge sounds very good because of the stylus. The Shibata stylus makes the difference, if you had an Ortofon Bronze cartridge and you insert an Ortofon 2M Black stylus i.e. the Shibata stylus, you would not tell the difference between the Bronze and Black cartridge, since the Shibata is responsible of such a detailed sound.
Shibata (2M Black) and FineLine (2M Bronze) have different sound signatures. Personally, I prefer the Bronze which sounds more hands-on and direct than the Black to me. I also have the PLX-1000 and the 2M Bronze suits it just fine. Shibata usually gives you a very relaxed listening experience which can be great on lots of recordings when things get rough 😬 There is also a new Black, the LVB250. It has a lighter Boron cantilever and is believed to be more dynamic, kinda like the Bronze while maintaining the Shibata sound signature. But at that price, you might just as well buy an MC cartridge anyway.
The 2M black and the Bronze have the exact same generator as far as I understand, so a black stylus in a Bronze cart would be a Black. No more no less. I suspect that the generator is the same for all the 2M range (except for the mono one) actually. The tolerances are probably tighter for the Bronze and Black so they can publish better specs, but I not convinced this makes a real world difference. All the old OM generators were the same, from OM5 up to OM40.
You have to have a heavy arm for a Denon 103 of any type, very stiff suspension. Jelco 750 comes to mind. Denon boogies but lacks detail. This Ortofon 2m Black sounds nasty good.
@@christerpedersen7818 Actually, it's a printing error with the 54 mm overhang. The PLX-1000 has the exact Technics geometry with an effective arm length of 230 mm and 15 mm overhang. So stylii need to be adjusted accordingly. You can therefore also use any Concorde stylus with no hassle.
don't own the table, don't own the cartridge...yet someone whose opinion I trust--Steve Guttenberg--claims that when paired with a Zu 103 Mk.II cartridge, the PLX1000 outperformed a VPI Classic Direct Drive table costing significantly more.
The intrusive hiss ruins this vinyl playback of one of my favourite Dire Straits tracks. Despite this, the Pioneer PLX1000/Ortofon 2M Blue sounds like a very good turntable and cartridge combination.
That's because Pioneer got it wrong. The stylus tip overhang isn't 54, but 52 like with all arms that have 230 mm effective length and 15 mm overhang. Just like the Technics, the Reloops and all the other Hanpin OEMs.
@@svenschwingel8632 The markings can be off as well. But I have set up an immoble arm to the desktop, set it within .1 mm of the platter and it scrapes in places on these Hanpins. It is just something to note relative to an old Technics precision cast in Japan.
@@Digiphex I got lucky with mine, then. I heard about the wobbly platters so I took a precision gauge used to measure side shot in brake rotors to my platter directly after unboxing and it turned out to be as even as can be. Also, the tonearm gimbal didn't show any play like other PLX buyers reported. But there's the slightly uneven markings which doesn't really bother me. And the tonearm lift is kinda weak and lets the stylus drop too fast. No big deal in the middle of a record, but it can be tricky on the lead-in if the stylus decides to take a sidestep in the wrong direction. So I am a tad more careful with the lift. As far as build quality goes: the old "made in Japan" quality at affordable price tags is gone for good. If you want a really well-built Technics turntable, I'd even stay away from the Mk7 and go for the 1200G ... but at 4000 bucks, it's going to cost ya. Dearly. And I can't see any pro DJ using two of these in a club.
Let's get real here. This is a high priced, perhaps over-priced, DJ turntable sold under the Pioneer name, probably out of the same Chinese factory which spits out the AT 60 and 120 models, but with higher spec hardware. It mounts an Ortofon 2M cartridge which is way more cartridge than this table was designed to handle properly, and itself is priced above the quality it delivers. Not a great match; not a great value. These "review" videos are a hoot. You see the thing play - okay but doesn't need a video. It sounds like the 1 inch tinny speakers in your laptop, or worse - the sound is meaningless.
So what do you think your proving by trying to degrade the equipment by mentioning China?, I’ll give you a reality check shall I, Ive just bought a brand new I phone directly from Apple. Considered one of the leading companies when it comes to gadgets like phones and tablets right?, and guess what it says in the small print in the box?. . .assembled in China, right you heard it, I said China, So before you slag things off for being made in China, remember that this is not always a direct sign of quality, many top companies have products made and constructed in China, because it’s cheaper!, Just look around you, you’ll be surprised at just how many Reputable products are made in countries like China these days!, The country is not always a reflection on the quality! I have a moded ATLP120 running an m2 Red through a Pioneer amp and vintage mission speakers and it sounds absolutely excellent, which is all that’s important, how it sounds to me and know one else!
Its not only the cartridge.PLX 1000 is an amazing turntable.
Im listening with my Grados RS1x headphones....wow, i can hear every nuance. Just beautiful.
I have this turntable and the m2 red, and it truly is amazing. Nice vid...
Great sound, very musical. Speed stable, quiet, well resolved. Allowing for the microphone preamp hiss, that seems to be a superb record player.
Sounds good. The Ortofon 2M is a detailed cartridge for a moving magnet. I am impressed.
impressive. a beautifully sounding setup.
Sounds great to listen to your classic music
Actually this cartridge sounds very good because of the stylus. The Shibata stylus makes the difference, if you had an Ortofon Bronze cartridge and you insert an Ortofon 2M Black stylus i.e. the Shibata stylus, you would not tell the difference between the Bronze and Black cartridge, since the Shibata is responsible of such a detailed sound.
Shibata (2M Black) and FineLine (2M Bronze) have different sound signatures. Personally, I prefer the Bronze which sounds more hands-on and direct than the Black to me. I also have the PLX-1000 and the 2M Bronze suits it just fine. Shibata usually gives you a very relaxed listening experience which can be great on lots of recordings when things get rough 😬
There is also a new Black, the LVB250. It has a lighter Boron cantilever and is believed to be more dynamic, kinda like the Bronze while maintaining the Shibata sound signature. But at that price, you might just as well buy an MC cartridge anyway.
The 2M black and the Bronze have the exact same generator as far as I understand, so a black stylus in a Bronze cart would be a Black. No more no less. I suspect that the generator is the same for all the 2M range (except for the mono one) actually. The tolerances are probably tighter for the Bronze and Black so they can publish better specs, but I not convinced this makes a real world difference. All the old OM generators were the same, from OM5 up to OM40.
Oh my God it even sounds clear on my phone
I highly recommend PS Audio's phono preamp, for this turntable they sound amazing.
Which one? The stellar or the sprout?
@@utub1473 nuwave phone converter.
@@dfj555 Isn't that an analogue to digital converter?
@@utub1473 Probably talking about the Sprout. Stellar cost 4 times as much as the PLX1000.
You have to have a heavy arm for a Denon 103 of any type, very stiff suspension. Jelco 750 comes to mind. Denon boogies but lacks detail. This Ortofon 2m Black sounds nasty good.
Great sound, but what's with the background hiss even before you dropped the needle?
Vinyl 2CD Rescue life is imperfect enjoy.
Next time it Will be a pressing that is not on par. Excellence exists at Times but perfect does not:)
Thank you. Great turntable! At the end of the video it stops automatically...is is right or you rise the arm?
Он ручной, автостопа нет
Que aparelho lindo. Meus parabéns!!!!!!!!!
Plx1000 rules
Absolutely fabulous audio.
Awesome sound so clear
Clear sound.
Super Quality 👌👌👌🌹🌹🌹
Is that the Ortofon 2m black sounding like that ?????? so rich !!!!
Awesome sound, wow!
Did ya turn the bass, OFF!...🍁
Maybe the best Hanpin turntable. For sure it has a very good sound. Ortofon 2M Blue also not bad.
Very nice sound indeed! What is your phono stage?
Нow wonderful it is! (❤´艸｀❤)
Cristian, where are you, why didn't you continue?
J ai envie de me prendre une ortofon black , est elle punchy ? transparente? merci
Just wondering, have you ever checked the overhang on that Pioneer?, that Ortofon seems really far forward in the head-shell!
The tonearm is 2mm shorter for some kind of reason.
It looks the same on mine and I have the same shell but a Dynavector cart.
@@christerpedersen7818 Actually, it's a printing error with the 54 mm overhang. The PLX-1000 has the exact Technics geometry with an effective arm length of 230 mm and 15 mm overhang. So stylii need to be adjusted accordingly. You can therefore also use any Concorde stylus with no hassle.
I have a PLX and the same headshell with a 2M Bronze. The adjustment is OK, according to the Schön protractor.
It is not a printing eror it is 54mm@@svenschwingel8632
Sounds awesome.
Wow the black is awesome
Where's the bass gone?
Don't need bass when the audio quality is this good
@@jacobpeck9372 are you joking
don't own the table, don't own the cartridge...yet someone whose opinion I trust--Steve Guttenberg--claims that when paired with a Zu 103 Mk.II cartridge, the PLX1000 outperformed a VPI Classic Direct Drive table costing significantly more.
Wow if that´s true a technics sl1200g would sound even better... Where can I read that articel
@@anjovandijk9797 The crazy thing is some people have platter wobble with the Technics sl1200g and gr,and this Pioneer no wobble.
The intrusive hiss ruins this vinyl playback of one of my favourite Dire Straits tracks. Despite this, the Pioneer PLX1000/Ortofon 2M Blue sounds like a very good turntable and cartridge combination.
Its Black, goofball.....🍁
What song name ?
@@leiferickson9666 he probably got confused by the stylus light which makes the cartridge body look blue-ish
Is that hiss, because the table has it's own pre-amp, and its picking up that ambient hiss - its terrible ?
I'll say it has the sound through equalizer and processor. It does not sound like this for real. Otherwise, this sounds really awful.
Ignoramus, the PLX-1000 doesn't have a built-in preamp. Hiss often comes from the master tape.
I have the same combo. What is your VTA set to?
Which tracking error protractor scheme are you applying? Does not look like the Pioneer instruction manual's recommendation.
That's because Pioneer got it wrong. The stylus tip overhang isn't 54, but 52 like with all arms that have 230 mm effective length and 15 mm overhang. Just like the Technics, the Reloops and all the other Hanpin OEMs.
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I'm not sure about the gloves though
i like the gloves, i hate finger prints on anything
just curious about the white gloves......
Do you know how expensive that setup is? I would recommend decontaminating everything first. Ha!
Lol
Lol
At 5:22 look at the top of the platter relative to the light. You can see the platter bobbles like all Hanpins do and is not flat.
I'd gladly trust an $800 Hanpin with any of my records.
What a total knob!!
It's not the platter, it's the machining of the strobe markings. My PLX does the very same thing.
@@svenschwingel8632 The markings can be off as well. But I have set up an immoble arm to the desktop, set it within .1 mm of the platter and it scrapes in places on these Hanpins. It is just something to note relative to an old Technics precision cast in Japan.
@@Digiphex I got lucky with mine, then. I heard about the wobbly platters so I took a precision gauge used to measure side shot in brake rotors to my platter directly after unboxing and it turned out to be as even as can be. Also, the tonearm gimbal didn't show any play like other PLX buyers reported.
But there's the slightly uneven markings which doesn't really bother me. And the tonearm lift is kinda weak and lets the stylus drop too fast. No big deal in the middle of a record, but it can be tricky on the lead-in if the stylus decides to take a sidestep in the wrong direction. So I am a tad more careful with the lift.
As far as build quality goes: the old "made in Japan" quality at affordable price tags is gone for good. If you want a really well-built Technics turntable, I'd even stay away from the Mk7 and go for the 1200G ... but at 4000 bucks, it's going to cost ya. Dearly. And I can't see any pro DJ using two of these in a club.
please upload more
DIRE STRAITS
What song name ?
Che diffusori suonano?
Try denon dl103 R and be blown away
The bass is missing as if the system is sounding out of phase
Mostly impossible to tell what it really sounds like through a RUclips video which is digitized and compressed and I think they're way overpriced
You and your friend come around
Dire Straits
Dr. Vinyl
the 2m black with a plastic imitation turntable, now I've seen it all...
It's a Technics copy and will never be as good. Save your money and buy something decent.
Stupid background noise
Lol, this turntable is crap.
fernarias Why?
I didn’t like it - the sound is very dry and the bass is completely dry.
Sounds like poop
Let's get real here. This is a high priced, perhaps over-priced, DJ turntable sold under the Pioneer name, probably out of the same Chinese factory which spits out the AT 60 and 120 models, but with higher spec hardware. It mounts an Ortofon 2M cartridge which is way more cartridge than this table was designed to handle properly, and itself is priced above the quality it delivers. Not a great match; not a great value. These "review" videos are a hoot. You see the thing play - okay but doesn't need a video. It sounds like the 1 inch tinny speakers in your laptop, or worse - the sound is meaningless.
So what do you think your proving by trying to degrade the equipment by mentioning China?, I’ll give you a reality check shall I, Ive just bought a brand new I phone directly from Apple. Considered one of the leading companies when it comes to gadgets like phones and tablets right?, and guess what it says in the small print in the box?. . .assembled in China, right you heard it, I said China,
So before you slag things off for being made in China, remember that this is not always a direct sign of quality, many top companies have products made and constructed in China, because it’s cheaper!,
Just look around you, you’ll be surprised at just how many Reputable products are made in countries like China these days!,
The country is not always a reflection on the quality! I have a moded ATLP120 running an m2 Red through a Pioneer amp and vintage mission speakers and it sounds absolutely excellent, which is all that’s important, how it sounds to me and know one else!
Randall Stewart your life is meaningless
Kinda, but not kinda, ass bag....
Hate to tell you fellow, Chinese high end audio smokes what we manufacture here. Their tube amps and CD players are awesome.
@@Pauls_Archive , Best👍.