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I got to say, I thought I was pretty well versed in nihilism-bent philosophers, but this is the first time I've learned about him. What a treasure! Thank you for this!
Are You nuts???? What are u preventing us from???? Go, get madly in love, procreate,, enjoy and share the joy with your women and child!!!!❤ do not sit in the manure of fear, and believe that u are a hero
Made the same choice so long ago. I'm 63 and never repented. Life itself showed me I was right. We all have been sentenced since the beginnig; pain is everywhere and always present, we just can face it, with the weak support of the lies we tell or hear. We get only the time, to take a breath, between a wound and the next.
I hope you don’t buy that guilt trip! It has been known that human overpopulation will be the extinction of humanity! So yes you,and others are doing your part!
@@PietroColombo-em5mz they want us see on our knees beating chest crying means culpa. No way, we must stand up, don't repent for any mistakes that they have created.
I was thinking and feeling the same way as Zapffe in my childhood. Life seemed pointless and full of suffering. But when I grew up I learned to isolate, anchor, distract and sublimate.
Yes, very wise words and very true... my favourite quote from Zapffe... 'A coin is examined, and only after careful deliberation, given to a beggar, whereas a child is flung out into the cosmic brutality without hesitation.' The vast majority couldn't care a less about other's suffering in the Procreational Ponzi Scheme of life.
*Physical, mental, psychological, and spiritual pains exist.* Woeful wavelengths, yet ones which carry wisdom over each of those unique frequencies. *Reflection is key.* 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)
@@9Ballr Uh, no. As I mentioned, there are at LEAST four levels: physical, mental, psychological, and spiritual (not to be confused with 're1igi0$', btw). There are probably more, but in essence, they'd be a mixture of two or more total. Way to attempt to trivialize people's situations, though. :/
@@Novastar.SaberCombat Nope, the experience of pain is always a type of conscious experience, i.e., all pain is mental. Do you ever experience any type of pain when you are unconscious? Nope.
I had never heard of this man. Wow quite a thinker, especially using pain to derive something beautiful like a strory or painting. Art creation is meaning!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 u must be joking, right??? Do u know one person who after suffering, become a healthy, self confident, well off person???????? If the level of our world intellect is as Yours , then even God cannot help us
I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED THIS WAY SINCE A CHILD , I MAY BE SMART, YOU MAY ENJOY ARENDT, FEMALE THINKER, WHO SAID THAT EVIL WAS JUST BANAL ! THINK ON THAT, EVIL IS JUST BANAL AND I CONCUR 100% ! THEY KEEP RECORDS !! THE GERMANS KEPT THE BEST RECORDS AND USA SURE IS GREAT AT IT AND EVERYTHING IN USA IS JUST BANAL !! ALL OF IT , BANAL !!
You know 1 of the biggest & gravest problems with us & what is absolutely apparent on here, the dam abuse & hatred we have for ourselves & each other, we are outstanding & when we realise this we will express more deserved respect. ❤✊️🌍
*Reflection is key.* Mostly that of both the self and global society. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)
@susanw361 Of course not all people hate themselves & each other, i think this would be impossible, we're kinda like 1/2 & 1/2 & just the way our species is, its never totaly 1sided, on some sites on here its more divine & loving.
It's achievable if everyone had the right mindset. It takes a shift in one's awareness and or conciousness, but once you realise and make the effort you know it's not as hard as may seem. If one person can do it so can everyone else. It's just that some people don't care. It's about making the shift. One person leads hopefully one day everyone will follow. Set the example that's all you can do.
"Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this: the peak of your civilization." - Agent Smith
The first matrix is almost there for all if only all wanted it. 90% of human suffering is caused by humans. Leave the 10% we don't cause or cant control so we still accept the program.
We're alive. What a bummer! I forced myself to really enjoy Christmas. And New Years. The food. The drink. The .....! Celebrating with family and friends. I'd forgotten, we're all nature's mistake. A bunch of freaks, celebrating the birth of a made up god. Life's a real bummer!
Fok the affirmation. It never works and will never work!!!! Some psychopaths, dealers of our health , happiness, education, have developed that scam, so we will grow more into depression, after realizing that the new age shit is purely evil
Came here to say that. He acknowledges the pointlessness of it but then goes on to say it is up to the individual to forge their own purpose or be defeated by nihilism.
None of us realize what we are. Like it or not, we are eternal and in the third dimension, we never stop struggling. Of course, life is unfair or bleak, just as it must be to force us to deal with whatever we struggle with. We need many lives to extract all the lessons of our remediation. Life is hard but not cruel. True humility will always assist. Growing means increased complexity and simply adds to the struggle. Happiness is a side effect of doing your duty and you get to decide what your duty is.
@@alistairgill5538 Oh man, I'm so sorry. No one has a right to ruin anyone else's quiet enjoyment of existential anguish ...😃 Especially at this time of year.
I didn't know this philosopher. He has common points with Kn. Hamsun, the great Norwegian writer (love of nature, the hate of modernity, the pessimism regarding human relationships).
Never knew of Peter Zapffe - thanks. Think it is important that we also recognise moments of "flow" and that Schopenhuar noticed that absorption with for example music - or now for us perhaps films, console games etc can help forget these existential issues and you forget your own issues or existential anxieties for a time, But they will return - or just boredom.
I find that Conformal Cyclical Cosmology is somewhat palliative in these respects, providing profound context for the 'life' phenomenon. Combined with Buddhist/Taoist philosophy and some practice I find that one can extract great enjoyment as well as being aware of the issues.
All animals with a sufficiently complex nervous system can suffer. This is most evident to us in mammals, our closest relatives so it may exist to some degree in less complex life forms. Humans may have the most exquisite capacity for suffering because we have the biggest brains, but we don't have a monopoly. Ending us won't end suffering.
I think the fable of the Garden of Eden is about that difference. Adam and Eve were not actually immortal, just primitive animals, oblivious to their inevitable, personal death. Avoiding death was an instinct to avoid the pain of dying, not about a fear that one might cease to exist. Eating from the "Tree of the Knowledge of Life and Death" opened their eyes to that existential threat. I think it's a story about humanity gaining a 'theory of mind' and how becoming self aware changes how we experience death and suffering. They were the first people not because they were a unique creation but because they were the first of their kind to be awakened. All animals with a 'theory of mind' experience that suffering the same as humans do, IMO.
@@ZymonAaronn The survival instinct is about more than just pain avoidance. It is mainly about reproduction. For example, most male animals compete for mates, often injuring themselves. Human self-awareness is not an awakening but a useful illusion. Along with language, humans develop it around 18 to 24 months. Like other animals, human babies are conscious and aware and get along quite well in their closeted environment without a self-concept. The self isn't real, but imagining that we have one is essential to navigating the social world on which our survival depends. This social world has enabled us to develop science, technology, and organizational structures that dominate the world. But our inability to see through this illusion keeps us trapped in a cycle of destructive consumption and competition that may end our brief tenure on the planet - or at least our status as apex predator.
I have had thoughts along these lines myself. I have been lucky, and I have not overpaid in suffering for my joys, but a near thing at times. Total drag to be that last person, though.
It always puzzles me how horrible life seems to some. I am more of a Leibniz guy myself. We are the lucky few, born in this greatest of all possible worlds.
I had the chance to read a summary of that philosophical essay, and I recall that it draws inspiration from many existentialist philosophers, such as Schopenhauer, Cioran, and others. Thank you for mentioning it!
Nice that you bring up that book by Ligotti. I’ve only read it three times and each time proves to be very rich and rewarding. That was my introduction to Zapffe and I’m very fond of The Last Messiah. I just realized that his magnum opus, On The Tragic, was translated into English this year. It doesn’t appear that I will be reading that anytime soon since it costs $120 and none of my State’s university libraries has it or is likely to get it. The Messiah’s last pronouncement: “Know yourselves - be infertile and let the Earth be silent after ye.” Words to live by.
le comble de l'ironie chez Zapffe : - Il critique la sur-conscience humaine... en étant lui-même l'exemple parfait de cette sur-conscience - Il participe au narcissisme collectif tout en le dénonçant - Il fait partie de cette élite intellectuelle qui se gargarise de sa propre "lucidité" C'est un peu comme si toute la philosophie était un grand miroir où l'humanité : - S'admire en train de réfléchir sur elle-même - Se félicite de sa capacité à voir qu'elle se félicite - Transforme même son malheur et son inadaptation en source de fierté intellectuelle c'est plus rafraîchissant de discuter avec quelqu'un qui ne se prend pas trop au sérieux,sait désamorcer la pompe intellectuelle,Utilise l'humour pour révéler des vérités 🔥
I'd like to point out that there are very few stable evolutionary forms. And they all exist in the ocean. Things like sharks, squid, octopi, jellyfish and the deep ocean dwellers can be considered stable evolutionary forms that have not changed much. Everything on the surface are failures of evolution. The surface is not kind to evolution because the cataclysms affect it more directly. So he's not wrong about all this. Humanity is not kind to its other creatures on the surface. One of the hardest questions to answer is: just what are we good for? See if you can answer it.
"What are we good for?" The concept of good, bad (evil), sin, etc. is simply a human construct, it has no meaning outside of human existence. The universe (nature) is amoral and indifferent to the plight of all living creatures.
@@dennyworthington6641 my question implies, what are we good for outside the human context. we provide no benefit to any other living things but ourselves. we are in fact a malignancy of the biosphere. we provide no symbiosis to any other organisms. even our gut bacteria can get sustenance elsewhere.
You know, I ask myself that very same question for straight up 3 years now,so intensly that I gave up even the love of my life, which broke me. The best answer I can give you, is: we´ll never actually know, but what I think atm is basically: as the universe is expanding, so are we, meaning collectivly our conciosness is growing, our knowledge is growing and our numbers as humanity are growing. Now we´ve globally come to a point where things move too fast too quickly, for example our number of humans on planet earth doubled in just 40 years, thats certainly no regular phenomenon. Also look at the speed of technological advances, thats also exponentional. So what I´m trying to say, is , this exponential growth will have a rebound. probably in the form of complete societal collapse. BUT, that doesnt necesarliy mean that we as a species will die out. I´m staying optimistic that some people will survive the craziness thats soon ahead of us and one day humanity will rebuild and use all of the knowledge that we gathered up until the 21st century and start progressing again, so we as a species will continue to progress, maybe actually even visit some other planets some day. I see that as a pretty realistic scenario, at least these patterns of destruction and rebuilding of societies have been a common historical pattern for the last couple of thousand years. But even assuming that history will again play out like this, i´m not sure I can see something beyond humanity starting space exploration and reaching higher levels of conciousness. I´m not sure anyone can see beyond that. But maybe its something like actually understanding one day why we exist by conquering the whole galaxy or something like that, at least that sounds cool in my mind
@@SOAD11111111 well said, you are an optimist. my question seems vague with your answer. i meant to say, what good are we to everything else in a biological sense or context. what do we help, other than out pets? when i look at it that way, i cannot come up with a single thing but a myriad of damages come evident. if you look at the fossil record, it's a litany of failures that no longer exist.
“Nonsense” Isolation strips away distractions and forces us to confront our thoughts, fears, and aspirations. It can be a time of deep reflection and self-discovery, although it can also be challenging. Sometimes, the solitude brings a stark clarity that’s hard to achieve when surrounded by the noise of daily life.
... LIFE is only " absurd " if you try to give it a Special meaning or a Purpose. A drop of rain hits a specific centimeter of soil ... so what ? - Should we assume that some " God " had it planned out just that way ? An osprey hurtles down and plucks a small fish from just beneath the surface of a lake. Does that mean that THIS bird was destined to prey upon THAT fish ? Philosophy is, like Religion, an attempt to explain - to sensitive, thoughtful beings like us why things happen, and to make them seem more wonderful or more tragic, and to show that some prescient and all-controlling " creator " has a grand plan, and that THAT should comfort us ... Sounds like wishful thinking to me ... sorry.
People ask about the meaning of life or their purpose, as if the universe is hiding it from them. But there doesn't need to be meaning for there to be existence and the universe doesn't owe us any sort of justification. What is the difference between meaning and justification or between a purpose and a function? I remember hearing a young man tell a story about how he rescued a young women from an abusive situation. He framed it as God (Yahweh) causing her suffering so he could, fulfil God's purpose for him as hero. Seems a bit arrogant, not that I'd put it past the god of the old testament.
An eminent scientist once said, "The universe isn't as strange as we can imagine but it is far stranger than we can imagine". No cult or religion knows the answers to anything, it's about power and control for them.
I was born with mild spinabifida which has made my life difficult and humiliating. Organized religion cannot explain why their omnipotent omniscient benevolent God allows human suffering. Some want it both ways, crediting God with say cures for illness but blaming man's "wickedness" for the pain.
To say that mankind is an evolutionary error is to place a moral judgement on something nature produced. Rather, we can say that like many, many species that went extinct, we are an evolutionary dead-end. That's ok, nature and evolution will go on without us after we self-destruct. As for the inevitability of human suffering, Buddha for example acknowledges it, but came to a radically different, more "positive" conclusion, based on empathy and compassion.
Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than the victim. The only thing that will redeem mankind is cooperation. " Bertrand Russell".
life is indeed full of suffering, it indeed seems absurd. But in the middle of life lies also a great privilege! We are so lucky to be alive and experience the pleasures of life, whether its taking a walk thru a forest, by a lake, ocean, or enjoying a delicious milkshake or any delicious food, enjoying love, sex, friendship, family love, etc etc etc...even though we are destined for anonymous and irreversible death...we should be grateful to have lived.
Does a tasty hamburger or walk in nature really justify one second of the worst torture that sentience has non-consensually & forcibly, consciously experienced?
*Reflection is key.* 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)
I am an earthling I am a human primate Grown out of this planet Like every other living thing on it I was not put here special I'm not going somewhere better after I am a temporary biological event Existing in an indifferent universe I revel in my insignificance
Hell no. Building things lime we do. Living how we do is not natural one damn bit. Everything outside civilization is natural. Face it something more advanced made us.
People suffer when there is an unbalance between pain/plasure, sarrow/joy.🤷 Everyone can take some pain, even excruciating sometimes (physical/emotional) with a smile on their face and not be bothered by... But when it's extensive and prolonged... Well no one will mange to endured without at least going insane. Ignoring pain is the stupidest idea ever, because pain is telling what's not good for you.🤷
Pain and suffering is a signal that you should do something about it so you can enjoy life. Evolution biology was not so highly developed during Zappfe's time.
Suffering is a normal part of life. For the most part, it teaches us not to make the same mistakes over and over again and to empathize with the suffering of others. However, each persons suffering must be as a consequence of their own decisions, choices, plans, and actions in life, and not forced upon them against their free will and expressed wishes and without their informed consent by others for their own benefit...
@@davidmann4533 Good question: We all suffer depression to some degree; some more than others. Severe depression could be the result of severe vitamin, mineral, and micro-nutrient imbalances and deficiencies; it could be inherited epigenetically by way of small RNA's from ancestors who suffered severe depression; or it could be the result of unresolved traumatic and depressive psychic imprinting that a person has carried over from a previous life or lives into this life... What is the purpose of depression if any? Depression is a mood disorder that affects the emotions. If we didn't have emotions, then we wouldn't have severe depression; but then, we would be nothing more than preprogrammed biological robots. What I'm saying is that sadness, suffering, and depression is the price we have to pay for having emotions. It is the same with free-will: There is no such thing as a little bit of free-will, just as there is no such thing as a little bit of emotion: It is either all or nothing: Ying and Yang, positive and negative, light and dark; you cannot have one without the other; but everything must be kept in balance. Problems manifest when the balance tips too much in the negative or dark direction, usually as a result of ones own actions or the actions of others... pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16542786/
@@davidmann4533 Good question. We all suffer depression; some more than others. Severe depression could be the result of severe vitamin, mineral, and micro-nutrient imbalances and deficiencies, such as magnesium; it could be inherited epigenetically by way of small RNA's from ancestors who suffered severe depression; or it could be due to unresolved traumatic and depressive psychic imprinting that has been carried over from a previous life or lives into this life. What is the purpose of depression if any? Depression is a mental disorder that affects the emotions; if we didn't have emotions, then we wouldn't have severe depression; but then we would be nothing more than preprogrammed biological robots. What I'm saying is that sadness, suffering, and depression is the price we have to pay for having emotions. It is the same with free-will: There is no such thing as a little bit of free-will, just as there is no such thing as a little bit of emotion; it is either all or nothing: Ying and Yang, Positive and Negative, Light and Dark; you cannot have one without the other; but everything must be kept in balance. Problems manifest when the balance tips too much in the direction of negativity and darkness, usually as a result of ones own actions or the actions of others...
There is no bright side to a world wherein humans murder 84billion land animals and 1.5trillion sea animals annually all for the love of flesh and blood
"Life's a piece of shit, when you look at it." Certainly, there is truth in that. But Monty Python makes me laugh, and fortunately I have laughed more than I have cried I'm this life. So I'm grateful.
You made the mistake of asking for "likes" before you got to the point. I didn't click on this for a biography. I was looking for ideas. I got bored/impatient, you got no "like".
The old nature within is the only culprit , the purpose to this temporary physical time life, is to see that it isn't an entity, but merely a mental movement, and to see that to move beyond this stuck state, is to work with something far higher than thoughts, and its shallow ideas. Nothing to do ,and only be receptive to something way higher than the human. All mental movement must be halted, at once, go slow, and accept that any further effort is useless,
What drivel. If you are not born you will not experience joy. Life has no meaning?!? Life is an adventure we do not control. Where does this idea that life should be a walk in the park come from?? What would be the point of that? People climb the highest mountains for the challenge. Some are victorious. Some not. People who live in their minds miss out. We are creative beings and creating sandcastles in only the mind is not enough. Frame what comes your way in helpful framework. Be creative. Be the good neighbour. Be on your journey and you will spread and receive joy.
And Richard Feynman, certified theoretical physicist and large personality said, essentially: “why don’t all these philosophers just laugh for a change.”
Does everbody suffer from too much awareness of the human condition? I wonder... Is this error a cultural one or is it universal? Isn' it a western culture evolution phase? Do we find this perspective in eastern cultures? I used to read this kind of authors inspired in Schoppenhauer, like Thomas Bernhard. I liked his sense of humour in the worst possible circunstances. I don't know if eastern cultures even consider not having kids as a good strategy to avoid suffering. Alberoni wrote in "Values" that we are the descendents of the stronger, the survivors". That means we have the genes of a chain of ancestors who fought to be alive, as all the creatures do in this planet.
Stockholm Syndrome of Nietsche and Others -Prisoners in accordance with Their Slave Master -Suffer and give us your Energy - I say - there is no suffering neccesary because you are the Truth !🥰
The visual cartoons are so sophomoric. The entire RUclips content industry has bought the AI hype, Bugs Bunny and Donald Duck. Hurray. Peter would be impressed.
if you are alive, you have ,to varied extend, practiced, the four paths suggested by zapffe. - isolation, distraction, and sublimation. after all who does not deliberately , refuse to think about problems ? drink a little to forget it, and go the pray to some god to solve it ?
@@joebyrd1119 Interesting idea. The Cathars (Southwest France/twelth century) thought that too. They held that the Creator (Rex Mundi) was a malevolent entity. A Pope, paradoxically called Innocent III had French Northern Knights launch a Crusade to wipe out the Cathars "Heresy"
I TAKE IT THIS GUY HAS BEEN REMEMBERED AS SOMEONE WHO WAS RARELY....IF EVER, OPTIMISTIC.CONSTANTLY DWELLING ON THE NEGATIVE...ITS EASY TO GET DOWN, DEPRESSED, VERY EASY....LISTENING TO SUCH A NEGATIVE CREEP DOESN'T HELP MATTERS MUCH DOES IT...SOMEONE WHO FAILED TO COUNT HIS BLESSINGS....HE WASN'T BLIND...CRIPPLED IN A WHEELCHAIR....OR BORN 800 YEARS AGO...THEN MAYBE THIS MISERABLE SOUL MAY HAVE MADE A GO IT....INSTEAD...PECIMIST NEGATIVE.DOWN.NOTHING GOOD EVERYTHING BAD....GEE. JUST BEING LIKE THAT WOULD DRIVE ME MAD.
The so-called intelligence of humanity is overrated. It does little to enhance our lives, or that of other creatures, or the Earth as a system. Consider the birds and wild animals. As David Gilmour the muscian says 'A spark between eternitys. Life is a short privilege without meaning. Experience it while ye may.
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I got to say, I thought I was pretty well versed in nihilism-bent philosophers, but this is the first time I've learned about him. What a treasure! Thank you for this!
Humans totally miss the generational Primal Dominance. While consciously ,totally intoxicated by ?
As a 47 year-old man without kids I'm doing my part in preventing more pain and suffering.
Are You nuts???? What are u preventing us from???? Go, get madly in love, procreate,, enjoy and share the joy with your women and child!!!!❤ do not sit in the manure of fear, and believe that u are a hero
Made the same choice so long ago. I'm 63 and never repented. Life itself showed me I was right. We all have been sentenced since the beginnig; pain is everywhere and always present, we just can face it, with the weak support of the lies we tell or hear. We get only the time, to take a breath, between a wound and the next.
I hope you don’t buy that guilt trip! It has been known that human overpopulation will be the extinction of humanity! So yes you,and others are doing your part!
@@PietroColombo-em5mz they want us see on our knees beating chest crying means culpa. No way, we must stand up, don't repent for any mistakes that they have created.
😂😂🤣
I was thinking and feeling the same way as Zapffe in my childhood. Life seemed pointless and full of suffering. But when I grew up I learned to isolate, anchor, distract and sublimate.
Yes, very wise words and very true... my favourite quote from Zapffe... 'A coin is examined, and only after careful deliberation, given to a beggar, whereas a child is flung out into the cosmic brutality without hesitation.' The vast majority couldn't care a less about other's suffering in the Procreational Ponzi Scheme of life.
And check out the Car Conversation Scene in True Detective.
TOP! Thank you for sharing this🙏
"Directly after copulation, the devil's laughter is heard." Arthur Schopenhauer
Schopenhauer was a bitter old guy, mostly created by devil's
@dennyworthington6641 Just gotta love that quote, whatever else anyone might say about Shopie Baby.
Pain is physical. Suffering is mental. Two curses of physical existence.
*Physical, mental, psychological, and spiritual pains exist.* Woeful wavelengths, yet ones which carry wisdom over each of those unique frequencies.
*Reflection is key.*
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"Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again."
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--Diamond Dragons (series)
Actually, all pain is a mental phenomenon.
@@9Ballr Uh, no. As I mentioned, there are at LEAST four levels: physical, mental, psychological, and spiritual (not to be confused with 're1igi0$', btw). There are probably more, but in essence, they'd be a mixture of two or more total.
Way to attempt to trivialize people's situations, though. :/
@@Novastar.SaberCombat Nope, the experience of pain is always a type of conscious experience, i.e., all pain is mental. Do you ever experience any type of pain when you are unconscious? Nope.
@Novastar.SaberCombat No worries bro, we'll all listen to you cause you're the expert. 😅
‘A pendulum swinging between pain and boredom’ sounds like a line from blackadder 😆
Life is a balance between ( Knowledge & Ignorance ) and ( Reason & Madness ).
I had never heard of this man. Wow quite a thinker, especially using pain to derive something beautiful like a strory or painting. Art creation is meaning!
Thank you for this valuable sharing🙏
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 u must be joking, right??? Do u know one person who after suffering, become a healthy, self confident, well off person???????? If the level of our world intellect is as Yours , then even God cannot help us
I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED THIS WAY SINCE A CHILD , I MAY BE SMART, YOU MAY ENJOY ARENDT, FEMALE THINKER, WHO SAID THAT EVIL WAS JUST BANAL ! THINK ON THAT, EVIL IS JUST BANAL AND I CONCUR 100% ! THEY KEEP RECORDS !! THE GERMANS KEPT THE BEST RECORDS AND USA SURE IS GREAT AT IT AND EVERYTHING IN USA IS JUST BANAL !! ALL OF IT , BANAL !!
@@fredvinci7071 incoherent drivel
You know 1 of the biggest & gravest problems with us & what is absolutely apparent on here, the dam abuse & hatred we have for ourselves & each other, we are outstanding & when we realise this we will express more deserved respect. ❤✊️🌍
*Reflection is key.* Mostly that of both the self and global society.
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"Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again."
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--Diamond Dragons (series)
Thank you. The devils is the accuser. The shit people endure and have overcome in millennia is astounding. We must not give up.
Absolutist statement.
Not ALL people hate themselves and / or others
@susanw361 Of course not all people hate themselves & each other, i think this would be impossible, we're kinda like 1/2 & 1/2 & just the way our species is, its never totaly 1sided, on some sites on here its more divine & loving.
It's achievable if everyone had the right mindset. It takes a shift in one's awareness and or conciousness, but once you realise and make the effort you know it's not as hard as may seem. If one person can do it so can everyone else. It's just that some people don't care. It's about making the shift. One person leads hopefully one day everyone will follow. Set the example that's all you can do.
1) isolation
2) anchoring
3) distraction
4) Sublimation
Most humans don't get number 4.
@@susanm7925 The soup Nazi did. He suffered for his soup.
@susanm7925 Sure we do. Dat's wen ice converts dye-rektly to vapor. A'ight?
"Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this: the peak of your civilization." - Agent Smith
I'll accept living in the first Matrix. Just bring me there. 🎉
The first matrix is almost there for all if only all wanted it. 90% of human suffering is caused by humans. Leave the 10% we don't cause or cant control so we still accept the program.
Only acceptance of inevitable suffering will enlighten us.
We're alive. What a bummer!
I forced myself to really enjoy Christmas. And New Years. The food. The drink. The .....! Celebrating with family and friends. I'd forgotten, we're all nature's mistake. A bunch of freaks, celebrating the birth of a made up god.
Life's a real bummer!
I AM IN STAGE # 1. ISOLATION FOR OVER 4 YEARS AND NO FAMILY, FRIENDS ALL DIED ON ME , SO ALONE! HUSBAND CANNOT BEAR TO THINK ON THAT VAMPIRE
Nietzsche was not a pessimist but believed in the affirmation of life.
Fok the affirmation. It never works and will never work!!!! Some psychopaths, dealers of our health , happiness, education, have developed that scam, so we will grow more into depression, after realizing that the new age shit is purely evil
Came here to say that. He acknowledges the pointlessness of it but then goes on to say it is up to the individual to forge their own purpose or be defeated by nihilism.
As a homosexual without children I’m onboard with this
None of us realize what we are. Like it or not, we are eternal and in the third dimension, we never stop struggling. Of course, life is unfair or bleak, just as it must be to force us to deal with whatever we struggle with. We need many lives to extract all the lessons of our remediation. Life is hard but not cruel. True humility will always assist. Growing means increased complexity and simply adds to the struggle. Happiness is a side effect of doing your duty and you get to decide what your duty is.
We think of ourself as being too Special.
Our life is full of pain and paradoxes anchoring seems to be best way to not to suffer
Well, that cheered me up.
Happy new year!
@paulohagan3309 Happy new year to you too 🤣
.... brought me right out of a depressing moment.😅
@@alistairgill5538 Oh man, I'm so sorry. No one has a right to ruin anyone else's quiet enjoyment of existential anguish ...😃
Especially at this time of year.
@alistairgill5538 🤣🤣🤣🤣
We are not accepting suffering and therefore we suffer
@SamShama-m8g Suffering is resistance to Life's harsh lessons?
It's so easy to talk. ☠️☠️☠️
I didn't know this philosopher. He has common points with Kn. Hamsun, the great Norwegian writer (love of nature, the hate of modernity, the pessimism regarding human relationships).
Never knew of Peter Zapffe - thanks. Think it is important that we also recognise moments of "flow" and that Schopenhuar noticed that absorption with for example music - or now for us perhaps films, console games etc can help forget these existential issues and you forget your own issues or existential anxieties for a time, But they will return - or just boredom.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."
Thus Karl Marx at age 30.
I find that Conformal Cyclical Cosmology is somewhat palliative in these respects, providing profound context for the 'life' phenomenon. Combined with Buddhist/Taoist philosophy and some practice I find that one can extract great enjoyment as well as being aware of the issues.
Life changing essay for me!
Very nice and thoughtful. Thank you
Fantastic presentation.
All animals with a sufficiently complex nervous system can suffer. This is most evident to us in mammals, our closest relatives so it may exist to some degree in less complex life forms. Humans may have the most exquisite capacity for suffering because we have the biggest brains, but we don't have a monopoly. Ending us won't end suffering.
Lessen it
R u sure? It may lessen animals suffering if humans die or become vegetarians/vegans. Just stop having so damn many offspring.
but ending us will end human suffering
I think the fable of the Garden of Eden is about that difference. Adam and Eve were not actually immortal, just primitive animals, oblivious to their inevitable, personal death. Avoiding death was an instinct to avoid the pain of dying, not about a fear that one might cease to exist.
Eating from the "Tree of the Knowledge of Life and Death" opened their eyes to that existential threat. I think it's a story about humanity gaining a 'theory of mind' and how becoming self aware changes how we experience death and suffering. They were the first people not because they were a unique creation but because they were the first of their kind to be awakened.
All animals with a 'theory of mind' experience that suffering the same as humans do, IMO.
@@ZymonAaronn The survival instinct is about more than just pain avoidance. It is mainly about reproduction. For example, most male animals compete for mates, often injuring themselves.
Human self-awareness is not an awakening but a useful illusion. Along with language, humans develop it around 18 to 24 months. Like other animals, human babies are conscious and aware and get along quite well in their closeted environment without a self-concept.
The self isn't real, but imagining that we have one is essential to navigating the social world on which our survival depends. This social world has enabled us to develop science, technology, and organizational structures that dominate the world. But our inability to see through this illusion keeps us trapped in a cycle of destructive consumption and competition that may end our brief tenure on the planet - or at least our status as apex predator.
I have had thoughts along these lines myself. I have been lucky, and I have not overpaid in suffering for my joys, but a near thing at times.
Total drag to be that last person, though.
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It always puzzles me how horrible life seems to some. I am more of a Leibniz guy myself. We are the lucky few, born in this greatest of all possible worlds.
Your sound is fascinating
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Anyone here read Thomas Ligotti's The Conspiracy Against the Human Race? He discusses Zapffe.
I had the chance to read a summary of that philosophical essay, and I recall that it draws inspiration from many existentialist philosophers, such as Schopenhauer, Cioran, and others. Thank you for mentioning it!
Ligotti is great as an author overall.
Nice that you bring up that book by Ligotti. I’ve only read it three times and each time proves to be very rich and rewarding. That was my introduction to Zapffe and I’m very fond of The Last Messiah. I just realized that his magnum opus, On The Tragic, was translated into English this year. It doesn’t appear that I will be reading that anytime soon since it costs $120 and none of my State’s university libraries has it or is likely to get it.
The Messiah’s last pronouncement: “Know yourselves - be infertile and let the Earth be silent after ye.” Words to live by.
@@wardstahmer7857 I bought a copy. Both Thomas Ligotti and David Benatar write Forewords to the volume.
The ultimate solution to human suffering is to stay away from those who
propose the ultimate solution to human suffering.
le comble de l'ironie chez Zapffe :
- Il critique la sur-conscience humaine... en étant lui-même l'exemple parfait de cette sur-conscience
- Il participe au narcissisme collectif tout en le dénonçant
- Il fait partie de cette élite intellectuelle qui se gargarise de sa propre "lucidité"
C'est un peu comme si toute la philosophie était un grand miroir où l'humanité :
- S'admire en train de réfléchir sur elle-même
- Se félicite de sa capacité à voir qu'elle se félicite
- Transforme même son malheur et son inadaptation en source de fierté intellectuelle
c'est plus rafraîchissant de discuter avec quelqu'un qui ne se prend pas trop au sérieux,sait désamorcer la pompe intellectuelle,Utilise l'humour pour révéler des vérités 🔥
I'd like to point out that there are very few stable evolutionary forms. And they all exist in the ocean. Things like sharks, squid, octopi, jellyfish and the deep ocean dwellers can be considered stable evolutionary forms that have not changed much. Everything on the surface are failures of evolution. The surface is not kind to evolution because the cataclysms affect it more directly. So he's not wrong about all this. Humanity is not kind to its other creatures on the surface. One of the hardest questions to answer is: just what are we good for? See if you can answer it.
"What are we good for?" The concept of good, bad (evil), sin, etc. is simply a human construct, it has no meaning outside of human existence. The universe (nature) is amoral and indifferent to the plight of all living creatures.
@@dennyworthington6641 my question implies, what are we good for outside the human context. we provide no benefit to any other living things but ourselves.
we are in fact a malignancy of the biosphere. we provide no symbiosis to any other organisms. even our gut bacteria can get sustenance elsewhere.
You know, I ask myself that very same question for straight up 3 years now,so intensly that I gave up even the love of my life, which broke me. The best answer I can give you, is: we´ll never actually know, but what I think atm is basically: as the universe is expanding, so are we, meaning collectivly our conciosness is growing, our knowledge is growing and our numbers as humanity are growing. Now we´ve globally come to a point where things move too fast too quickly, for example our number of humans on planet earth doubled in just 40 years, thats certainly no regular phenomenon. Also look at the speed of technological advances, thats also exponentional. So what I´m trying to say, is , this exponential growth will have a rebound. probably in the form of complete societal collapse. BUT, that doesnt necesarliy mean that we as a species will die out. I´m staying optimistic that some people will survive the craziness thats soon ahead of us and one day humanity will rebuild and use all of the knowledge that we gathered up until the 21st century and start progressing again, so we as a species will continue to progress, maybe actually even visit some other planets some day. I see that as a pretty realistic scenario, at least these patterns of destruction and rebuilding of societies have been a common historical pattern for the last couple of thousand years. But even assuming that history will again play out like this, i´m not sure I can see something beyond humanity starting space exploration and reaching higher levels of conciousness. I´m not sure anyone can see beyond that. But maybe its something like actually understanding one day why we exist by conquering the whole galaxy or something like that, at least that sounds cool in my mind
@@SOAD11111111 well said, you are an optimist. my question seems vague with your answer. i meant to say, what good are we to everything else in a biological sense or context. what do we help, other than out pets? when i look at it that way, i cannot come up with a single thing but a myriad of damages come evident.
if you look at the fossil record, it's a litany of failures that no longer exist.
“Nonsense”
Isolation strips away distractions and forces us to confront our thoughts, fears, and aspirations.
It can be a time of deep reflection and self-discovery, although it can also be challenging.
Sometimes, the solitude brings a stark clarity that’s hard to achieve when surrounded by the noise of daily life.
Exactly! ❤
Good video
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AI narration, AI images, AI text... too much
... LIFE is only " absurd " if you try to give it a Special meaning or a Purpose. A drop of rain hits a specific centimeter of soil ... so what ? - Should we assume that some " God " had it planned out just that way ?
An osprey hurtles down and plucks a small fish from just beneath the surface of a lake. Does that mean that THIS bird was destined to prey upon THAT fish ?
Philosophy is, like Religion, an attempt to explain - to sensitive, thoughtful beings like us why things happen, and to make them seem more wonderful or more tragic, and to show that some prescient and all-controlling " creator " has a grand plan, and that THAT should comfort us ...
Sounds like wishful thinking to me ... sorry.
Thank you for this valuable sharing🙏
People ask about the meaning of life or their purpose, as if the universe is hiding it from them. But there doesn't need to be meaning for there to be existence and the universe doesn't owe us any sort of justification. What is the difference between meaning and justification or between a purpose and a function?
I remember hearing a young man tell a story about how he rescued a young women from an abusive situation. He framed it as God (Yahweh) causing her suffering so he could, fulfil God's purpose for him as hero. Seems a bit arrogant, not that I'd put it past the god of the old testament.
@@ZymonAaronn Exactly ! ... WE give our lives meaning and that meaning is personal unless we choose to share it ... that's what makes it OURS.
An eminent scientist once said, "The universe isn't as strange as we can imagine but it is far stranger than we can imagine". No cult or religion knows the answers to anything, it's about power and control for them.
@@leonardgibney2997 ... And comfort ... It's a form of confirmation bias where THEY are always on top, always winning and always right ...
Everything is opinion, so cheer up.
I was born with mild spinabifida which has made my life difficult and humiliating. Organized religion cannot explain why their omnipotent omniscient benevolent God allows human suffering. Some want it both ways, crediting God with say cures for illness but blaming man's "wickedness" for the pain.
'If we are not born, we do not suffer.' Let's hope certain forms of the multiverse are not true then ...
Those poor gentlemen were too clever, but at least they gave it a bloody good crack and told others the truth about life.
Good one.
To say that mankind is an evolutionary error is to place a moral judgement on something nature produced. Rather, we can say that like many, many species that went extinct, we are an evolutionary dead-end. That's ok, nature and evolution will go on without us after we self-destruct. As for the inevitability of human suffering, Buddha for example acknowledges it, but came to a radically different, more "positive" conclusion, based on empathy and compassion.
Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than the victim. The only thing that will redeem mankind is cooperation. " Bertrand Russell".
He lived to 91. He could have ended his suffering sooner.
Would have just been Respawned in the simulacra, most likely with a mind wipe
Is Emil Cioran his philosophical successor?
Cut from the same cloth!
life is indeed full of suffering, it indeed seems absurd. But in the middle of life lies also a great privilege! We are so lucky to be alive and experience the pleasures of life, whether its taking a walk thru a forest, by a lake, ocean, or enjoying a delicious milkshake or any delicious food, enjoying love, sex, friendship, family love, etc etc etc...even though we are destined for anonymous and irreversible death...we should be grateful to have lived.
Does a tasty hamburger or walk in nature really justify one second of the worst torture that sentience has non-consensually & forcibly, consciously experienced?
*Reflection is key.*
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"Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again."
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--Diamond Dragons (series)
I will have to disagree with the title
The Collapse and Recycle of Energy is Universal
... there are "known unknowns" and there are "unknown unknowns"
I am an earthling
I am a human primate
Grown out of this planet
Like every other living thing on it
I was not put here special
I'm not going somewhere better after
I am a temporary biological event
Existing in an indifferent universe
I revel in my insignificance
To thinking or observing scientifically many many times more and more it seems like man and humanity 😕 is natural phenomena
Hell no. Building things lime we do. Living how we do is not natural one damn bit. Everything outside civilization is natural. Face it something more advanced made us.
No one has access to some position or perch from which they could judge something as an error of evolution.
People suffer when there is an unbalance between pain/plasure, sarrow/joy.🤷
Everyone can take some pain, even excruciating sometimes (physical/emotional) with a smile on their face and not be bothered by... But when it's extensive and prolonged... Well no one will mange to endured without at least going insane.
Ignoring pain is the stupidest idea ever, because pain is telling what's not good for you.🤷
Sounds like rustin cohle from true detective
Not even close! We are here to do a job! And when the job is done, so are we! 😅😅😅😅😅 That's something to think about! 🤔
Pain and suffering is a signal that you should do something about it so you can enjoy life. Evolution biology was not so highly developed during Zappfe's time.
The pleasure principle and the death drive co regency operate the self
Buddha 'discovered' the same truth, but then went on to find a solution (a more enlighten form of extinction).
Suffering is a normal part of life. For the most part, it teaches us not to make the same mistakes over and over again and to empathize with the suffering of others.
However, each persons suffering must be as a consequence of their own decisions, choices, plans, and actions in life, and not forced upon them against their free will and expressed wishes and without their informed consent by others for their own benefit...
I guess you have never expirienced severe depression
@@davidmann4533 Good question: We all suffer depression to some degree; some more than others. Severe depression could be the result of severe vitamin, mineral, and micro-nutrient imbalances and deficiencies; it could be inherited epigenetically by way of small RNA's from ancestors who suffered severe depression; or it could be the result of unresolved traumatic and depressive psychic imprinting that a person has carried over from a previous life or lives into this life...
What is the purpose of depression if any? Depression is a mood disorder that affects the emotions. If we didn't have emotions, then we wouldn't have severe depression; but then, we would be nothing more than preprogrammed biological robots.
What I'm saying is that sadness, suffering, and depression is the price we have to pay for having emotions. It is the same with free-will: There is no such thing as a little bit of free-will, just as there is no such thing as a little bit of emotion: It is either all or nothing: Ying and Yang, positive and negative, light and dark; you cannot have one without the other; but everything must be kept in balance. Problems manifest when the balance tips too much in the negative or dark direction, usually as a result of ones own actions or the actions of others...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16542786/
@@davidmann4533 Good question. We all suffer depression; some more than others. Severe depression could be the result of severe vitamin, mineral, and micro-nutrient imbalances and deficiencies, such as magnesium; it could be inherited epigenetically by way of small RNA's from ancestors who suffered severe depression; or it could be due to unresolved traumatic and depressive psychic imprinting that has been carried over from a previous life or lives into this life.
What is the purpose of depression if any? Depression is a mental disorder that affects the emotions; if we didn't have emotions, then we wouldn't have severe depression; but then we would be nothing more than preprogrammed biological robots.
What I'm saying is that sadness, suffering, and depression is the price we have to pay for having emotions. It is the same with free-will: There is no such thing as a little bit of free-will, just as there is no such thing as a little bit of emotion; it is either all or nothing: Ying and Yang, Positive and Negative, Light and Dark; you cannot have one without the other; but everything must be kept in balance. Problems manifest when the balance tips too much in the direction of negativity and darkness, usually as a result of ones own actions or the actions of others...
Always look at the bright side of life.
There is no bright side to a world wherein humans murder 84billion land animals and 1.5trillion sea animals annually all for the love of flesh and blood
😉Life of Brian final scene...
@@aubreyleonae4108 I guess Zapffe wasn't a Monty Python fan
I stared into the Sun and went blind. I'm SUING.
"Life's a piece of shit, when you look at it."
Certainly, there is truth in that. But Monty Python makes me laugh, and fortunately I have laughed more than I have cried I'm this life. So I'm grateful.
the video put me down..
then i read the comments, and im thankfull
Breeders are selfish and narcissistic. They've destroyed the world. The poor animals.
You made the mistake of asking for "likes" before you got to the point. I didn't click on this for a biography. I was looking for ideas. I got bored/impatient, you got no "like".
The old nature within is the only culprit , the purpose to this temporary physical time life, is to see that it isn't an entity, but merely a mental movement, and to see that to move beyond this stuck state, is to work with something far higher than thoughts, and its shallow ideas. Nothing to do ,and only be receptive to something way higher than the human. All mental movement must be halted, at once, go slow, and accept that any further effort is useless,
The only happiness of man is not to be born at all. " Arthur Schopenhauer "
What drivel. If you are not born you will not experience joy. Life has no meaning?!? Life is an adventure we do not control. Where does this idea that life should be a walk in the park come from?? What would be the point of that? People climb the highest mountains for the challenge. Some are victorious. Some not. People who live in their minds miss out. We are creative beings and creating sandcastles in only the mind is not enough. Frame what comes your way in helpful framework. Be creative. Be the good neighbour. Be on your journey and you will spread and receive joy.
If you think HE was radical, you should meet my old college roommate.
It is perfectly OK for life not to have any meaning: it is just is. Simple, uh?
Too pessimistic for me, one must try to find happy moments and positively influence others.
The isolation part & Anti-Natalism is good, but for the other things it sounds like he runs a way from reality itself.
And Richard Feynman, certified theoretical physicist and large personality said, essentially: “why don’t all these philosophers just laugh for a change.”
God is Perfect, the Universe is Perfect, and the World has a Perfect Purpose.
Does everbody suffer from too much awareness of the human condition?
I wonder...
Is this error a cultural one or is it universal?
Isn' it a western culture evolution phase?
Do we find this perspective in eastern cultures?
I used to read this kind of authors inspired in Schoppenhauer, like Thomas Bernhard.
I liked his sense of humour in the worst possible circunstances.
I don't know if eastern cultures even consider not having kids as a good strategy to avoid suffering.
Alberoni wrote in "Values" that we are the descendents of the stronger, the survivors".
That means we have the genes of a chain of ancestors who fought to be alive, as all the creatures do in this planet.
Humanity being error suggests that everything else in existence is somehow perfect. Nothing is perfect, there is no grand goal of evolution.
Stockholm Syndrome of Nietsche and Others -Prisoners in accordance with Their Slave Master -Suffer and give us your Energy - I say - there is no suffering neccesary because you are the Truth !🥰
The visual cartoons are so sophomoric. The entire RUclips content industry has bought the AI hype, Bugs Bunny and Donald Duck. Hurray. Peter would be impressed.
if you are alive, you have ,to varied extend, practiced, the four paths suggested by zapffe. - isolation, distraction, and sublimation.
after all who does not deliberately , refuse to think about problems ? drink a little to forget it, and go the pray to some god to solve it ?
I am NOT an error, I am an intentional act of sabotage.
Hew died aged 91 after writing all that. HA ! What a plank.
Did he have children?
No
No..
would he have created another money-addicted consumer, devouring the planet?
@@donHooligan yea
Existence is an error 😂😂
But for MUSIC.
@@richardcollier1912 Chopin, Mozart, Bach...
Only artsists ascend to the Gods
@@jackflanagle6079 Nietzsche wuz onto somethin' !
Is this philosopher proposing intentional ignorance to achieve a temporary bliss that comes back to bite you when you can no longer ignore the pain.
What a miserable existence. Life is a gift from the divine. What a shame to be educated out of common sense.
According to him😂 just ignore everything that bothers you😂
Yep, he needed to go to a Taylor Swift Concert!!!
The ultimate pessimist.
Pain and suffering is caused by sin
01~ Creation Evolution Entropy ~ 010
Creepy graphics. Creepy voice.
I disagree with everything I've heard in this video.
Fair enough
Ha ha POO 💩!
More like a cosmological error.
@@joebyrd1119 Interesting idea. The Cathars (Southwest France/twelth century) thought that too. They held that the Creator (Rex Mundi) was a malevolent entity. A Pope, paradoxically called Innocent III had French Northern Knights launch a Crusade to wipe out the Cathars "Heresy"
LOL
Twrror Management Theory
I TAKE IT THIS GUY HAS BEEN REMEMBERED AS SOMEONE WHO WAS RARELY....IF EVER, OPTIMISTIC.CONSTANTLY DWELLING ON THE NEGATIVE...ITS EASY TO GET DOWN, DEPRESSED, VERY EASY....LISTENING TO SUCH A NEGATIVE CREEP DOESN'T HELP MATTERS MUCH DOES IT...SOMEONE WHO FAILED TO COUNT HIS BLESSINGS....HE WASN'T BLIND...CRIPPLED IN A WHEELCHAIR....OR BORN 800 YEARS AGO...THEN MAYBE THIS MISERABLE SOUL MAY HAVE MADE A GO IT....INSTEAD...PECIMIST NEGATIVE.DOWN.NOTHING GOOD EVERYTHING BAD....GEE. JUST BEING LIKE THAT WOULD DRIVE ME MAD.
The so-called intelligence of humanity is overrated. It does little to enhance our lives, or that of other creatures, or the Earth as a system. Consider the birds and wild animals. As David Gilmour the muscian says 'A spark between eternitys. Life is a short privilege without meaning. Experience it while ye may.
And then face a tragic ending
@@xdgamer4554 "tragedy" is rather an emotional reaction to reality.
He was a closet Gnostic or a reincarnated one.