the path for seeking truth is profoundly painful. the deeper you go the more truth you'll see and the more painful it becomes. indeed the truth is infinitly harsh, infinitly cruel, infinitly painful, void and meaningless. and that same truth can give one's liberation.
@@cg9747 no. sometimes i wish i wasnt curious about the truth. now i'm caught is there is no way out. this is the same for all who seeks the truth. just like siddhartha said, suffering itself leavs to liberation, either way, this is better
yeah, its shitty. but i cant resist it. to live a lie feels impossible. to live alone sucks. To live open minded sucks. To have awareness sucks. I am trying to live sober though... it sucks and makes things hurt more.... yikes... i gotta run away to something pleasant now. Good luck yall... i guess thats what im suppose to say.... or should i have said anything at all.... yikes... im still here typing... lol
@@jasoneddy9111 you can always make your life worthwhile by accepting all these which is the same thing as when you forget all these except that its even better. we'll be able to coup with the various downs in life and move forward. either way, we have no choice.
Based solely on this video. No, not a genius. Just a tormented young soul trying to make sense of life who perhaps thought his ideas could help or awaken others. The binary nature of his thinking is a product his time and place. Although, Eastern concepts such that represented by the yin-yang symbol would certainly have been available to him as they were to Jung...but he was only 23 and you cant read everything. Philosophy has been central to my life for decades for similar reason, so I have much compassion and empathy for him.
And now all you need is a couple of years to get a college degree in places that find the word mother offensive, allow dudes to go to female bathrooms, goes against freedom of speech, idolise Lenin, Stalin, Che etc... so what's your point???
This was fascinating - I'd never heard of him. Thanks for posting and keep up the good work. By the way, the photograph of him at his desk clearly shows a left-hander while all the illustrations show him as right-handed. Sorry, I'm a lefty❤
He did not take his own life because of controversy over his opinions. He was accused of plagiarism. "Although the book's reception was not negative, it did not create the expected stir. Weininger was attacked by Paul Julius Möbius, professor in Leipzig and author of the book On the Physiological Deficiency of Women and was accused of plagiarizing. Deeply disappointed and seemingly depressed, Weininger left for Italy." He killed himself shortly thereafter.
@ilqar887 That is exactly right. Being accused of plagiarism can ruin one's career, and he was a young man just starting out. The reviews and responses about his book were barely in yet, but there were no negative responses. Professor Mobius had an advance copy and immediately saw that some of the material was his own. Do some research.
@ still doest change anything for me first 200 pages he references a lot ..he never claimed some scientific ideas were hes …but the ones he claimed were hes ..and not to be anywehere else ..he was super smart and understood the nature of duality at the age 23 ..moral life and material life being paralels ..devil and god as a metaphore…sis mobius right about that¿ever¿he doesnt even come close
It shows that Weininger's and Mobius's views were typical of women in the 19th century. Freud and Jung had it in their beliefs, too, but not as stridently as other philosophers did. 🤔
Thats what I was thinking. His terms are clearly product of his time when women were thaught to be that way, and men the other way. Beyond his lack of understanding of women his thoughts are worth considering still and even going further.
But it’s completely true that men are more individual and women more conformist. That’s why there’s studies showing that when men are administered a dose of 150mg of testosterone they become less conformist in social settings. Otto didn’t care about sugar coating the truth for snowflakes. You are one of the feminine men in the scale of sexually intermediate forms he talks about in the first part of the book.
So if he sugar coated it for you delusional whiners you'd be more open to the idea of being wrong? I doubt it, what's this cry for censorship in a conversation about truths 😂. Y'all were a waste of school resources.
His aproach on "genius" is very interesting and similar to the concept of superman developed by Nietzsche. The trgic part is that he did not live long enought to develop his philosophy more.
Read his book more than 30 years ago, I think it is a work of genius especially considering he was so young. It would be even more politicaly incorrect these days i can imagine.
Rejection and loneliness can afect a philosophy, there is the polarity of our nature for our confusion to be deep within us when thinking thoughts HIS truth HER truth and THE truth as an example. WAIT WHAT!
@threshencrane6355 Are you joking? Use your intelligence and study philosophy. This was a "fad" belief that went out of style. Let me ask you one question. How many women have started wars? Wars are started by men, for profit. That emotion which you value so little, prohibits a woman from sending their boys to war. Intellect cannot be valued over intuition. Intellect cannot be valued over human kindness and compassion. Look up the word patriarchy. It's a negative system which has controlled this world for millenia. Understand that this world is not balanced and it won't ever be, until men can feel and express compassion and emotion, and women can use their intelligence as well as their feelings. In reality, many women can and do, and the men are lagging behind.
Well the suicide.at 23 pretty much seals the disturbed mind comment. Wrong? He seems to have been the Andrew Tate of his day. He could have read anything on taoism and would have found an ancient philosophy which address all forms of duality including gender without the gross mysogeny he came up with. So wrong in arriving at a thuggish infantile conclusion when as sn "intellectual" he had access to the wisdom of history.
@ and also maybe seeking ..wanting to die so u find out the truth ..he says in the book you wont be able to u derstand nature of duality unless you die…he wanted to die to understand the meaning of life …but he should not have done it becouse according to him it was a sim and no genius will do it…
I agree with his ideas of love for me I think that is more human than looking for happiness and we fool ourselves in that way. However, I am an atheist so I don't agree on the spiritual aspect and I don't believe in the gender construct. This is 1903, but I wonder what he would think now?
I'm afraid Otto sounds more like a deeply conflicted person who was suffering unconscious conflicts about his mother and his own sexuality. He was more of a screwball than a genius, and his story isn't compelling.
I think for what it's worth, he had the wrong idea about gender. He was a product of his time.Back then homosexulality was illegal. That,to me, says it all.
You're a product of your time. There is absolute truth. We live in a time where truth is viewed as subjective. That is bs . Because its self contradiction. If truth is relative is that true?
Its got nothing to do with time …quite the opposite…and he wasnt agains homosexuality or condemned it or theres substantial proof that he was a homosexual"…theres no proof
@@sambrittenden4045 yes..people are so quick to pit blame to everything every opinion rather that asking why he thinks that way …i think especially second part of this book is very very deep…and first part hes theories on sexuality was new at that time but nobody to this day gives him credit
He wanted to go down the rabbit hole to find the truth. Unfortunely, people were not ready to hear it. Otto Weinger risked everything to uncover the truth, and it lead to him unaliving himself.
Nature doesn't expresses herself in a dualistic way. Male/female, black/white, rich/poor, not genius/genius, etc..., those are just conventions in our brain. Nothing has an intrinsic reality by itself and everything is impermanent. Reality is nothing more than aggregates of atoms without meaning that causally create interralated phenomena. We give meanings to concepts. This according to our experiences, our conventions and our personal paradigms. Labels only serve practical purposes. That is why philosophical model that requires a strict dualistic paradigms rarely are descriptive of any real phenomena, and often bring attachment to useless concepts. Those attachments are the source of unnecessary but unavoidable self inflicting sufference. This because you trick yourself to cling to something, while in reality you are clinging to nothing. My view on Otto Weininger? He was neither right nor wrong. He just invented conventions for himself to describe what he had in mind, but it was not an ultimate truth. That was only his own personal truth.
Not that his Philosophy was right or Wrong or was true or false but quite often when one delves to deep into or at the wrong time and place one gets in over their head and drowns either by their own hand or others and even the environment itself. this is why well-known Philosophers and or Philosophys have levels and rights associated with them. This is due to the inherent danger and death that likely issues if not followed to the letter. Given the right Philosophy and practice of such it can and is so powerful it could raise the dead or rotation of the Eart, This is why they are fraught with booby traps sort of speak to prevent the untrained uninitiated from welding such power, some do anyway but are mostly short-lived and sooner or later do themselves and their fellows in.
How AI desperatly tries to put you into box from all known pattetns and cannot create new complex real view and operates on shallow extraction ftom ocean of half-truths😂
Nah his perspective on gender wasn't flawed. Damn Satan claimed yet another victim. The saddest part of this whole thing is just how unavoidable his death is. It was his destiny to take his own life. He literally needed to tap into higher dimensions of consciousness just to live a full life. If he had surrendered to God, his mind would've been able to handle the truth. The same love he was searching for couldve been his home for all eternity. But instead society turned on him. The world murders sons of God, they make them sound crazy and hateful. So because he tried to understand love, and because nobody knows love unless they know God, He was no match for satan. Who saw him in the spirit realm removing the shackles off his soul and decided to end him
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the path for seeking truth is profoundly painful. the deeper you go the more truth you'll see and the more painful it becomes. indeed the truth is infinitly harsh, infinitly cruel, infinitly painful, void and meaningless. and that same truth can give one's liberation.
finding out youre alone isnt liberating. is it?
@@cg9747 no. sometimes i wish i wasnt curious about the truth. now i'm caught is there is no way out. this is the same for all who seeks the truth. just like siddhartha said, suffering itself leavs to liberation, either way, this is better
@@cg9747nope
yeah, its shitty. but i cant resist it. to live a lie feels impossible. to live alone sucks. To live open minded sucks. To have awareness sucks. I am trying to live sober though... it sucks and makes things hurt more.... yikes... i gotta run away to something pleasant now. Good luck yall... i guess thats what im suppose to say.... or should i have said anything at all.... yikes... im still here typing... lol
@@jasoneddy9111 you can always make your life worthwhile by accepting all these which is the same thing as when you forget all these except that its even better. we'll be able to coup with the various downs in life and move forward. either way, we have no choice.
Based solely on this video. No, not a genius. Just a tormented young soul trying to make sense of life who perhaps thought his ideas could help or awaken others. The binary nature of his thinking is a product his time and place. Although, Eastern concepts such that represented by the yin-yang symbol would certainly have been available to him as they were to Jung...but he was only 23 and you cant read everything. Philosophy has been central to my life for decades for similar reason, so I have much compassion and empathy for him.
he was a philosopher at 23? wow, it took plato 65 years...
And now all you need is a couple of years to get a college degree in places that find the word mother offensive, allow dudes to go to female bathrooms, goes against freedom of speech, idolise Lenin, Stalin, Che etc... so what's your point???
philosophers r Thinkers so age doesn't matter.. a teenager can also think
It’s a lot easier thanks to previous philosophers laying the groundwork for us to expand on
Most people dont want to hear the truth because they dont want their illusions destroyed! Nietzsche
Thus spoke Nietzsche. We’re all good people, please don’t hurt us haha. Small people are necessary. Freaking love that book.
Isn't delusion another word for "truth"?
Don't think so my man , the laws of physics etc aren't illusions!!
Well, my fantasy is all I have to live on.
@@safwanarahman2592 WEAK🤣
No one has ever known Truth. It is not experiencable. It has no vehicle to know itself.
Truth is reality. Experience is a interpretation of reality. Therefore not possible to experience truth
Breathe. You are the vehicle.
Interesting.
Good upload.
Thanks.
This was fascinating - I'd never heard of him. Thanks for posting and keep up the good work. By the way, the photograph of him at his desk clearly shows a left-hander while all the illustrations show him as right-handed. Sorry, I'm a lefty❤
He did not take his own life because of controversy over his opinions. He was accused of plagiarism.
"Although the book's reception was not negative, it did not create the expected stir. Weininger was attacked by Paul Julius Möbius, professor in Leipzig and author of the book On the Physiological Deficiency of Women and was accused of plagiarizing. Deeply disappointed and seemingly depressed, Weininger left for Italy." He killed himself shortly thereafter.
So he killed himself just becouse he was accused of plagiarism
@ilqar887 That is exactly right. Being accused of plagiarism can ruin one's career, and he was a young man just starting out. The reviews and responses about his book were barely in yet, but there were no negative responses. Professor Mobius had an advance copy and immediately saw that some of the material was his own. Do some research.
@ still doest change anything for me first 200 pages he references a lot ..he never claimed some scientific ideas were hes …but the ones he claimed were hes ..and not to be anywehere else ..he was super smart and understood the nature of duality at the age 23 ..moral life and material life being paralels ..devil and god as a metaphore…sis mobius right about that¿ever¿he doesnt even come close
@@eileenhetherington3704 Julius Möbius sounds like a misogynistic incel - a total beta male. 🤷🏼♀
It shows that Weininger's and Mobius's views were typical of women in the 19th century. Freud and Jung had it in their beliefs, too, but not as stridently as other philosophers did. 🤔
I died when i was older than 7 years.😢
I think his philosophy would be a lot more palatable if he just replaced the terms masculinity with “individualism” and femininity with “conformism.”
Thats what I was thinking. His terms are clearly product of his time when women were thaught to be that way, and men the other way.
Beyond his lack of understanding of women his thoughts are worth considering still and even going further.
I agree having worked with women they have a group mentality
But it’s completely true that men are more individual and women more conformist. That’s why there’s studies showing that when men are administered a dose of 150mg of testosterone they become less conformist in social settings. Otto didn’t care about sugar coating the truth for snowflakes. You are one of the feminine men in the scale of sexually intermediate forms he talks about in the first part of the book.
So if he sugar coated it for you delusional whiners you'd be more open to the idea of being wrong? I doubt it, what's this cry for censorship in a conversation about truths 😂. Y'all were a waste of school resources.
In hearing this story a similar fate comes to mind: Alan Turing!
His aproach on "genius" is very interesting and similar to the concept of superman developed by Nietzsche. The trgic part is that he did not live long enought to develop his philosophy more.
Read his book more than 30 years ago, I think it is a work of genius especially considering he was so young. It would be even more politicaly incorrect these days i can imagine.
Lore of How This Controversial Philosopher's Search for Truth Ended in Despair - Otto Weininger momentum 100
The Andrew Tate of his generation.
Rejection and loneliness can afect a philosophy, there is the polarity of our nature for our confusion to be deep within us when thinking thoughts HIS truth HER truth and THE truth as an example. WAIT WHAT!
Sadly, as a woman I'd have to agree. We're stuck in emotion and will never transcend. Stuck.
Men can be stuck in emotion, too, and frequently are. Will they be able to transcend? Probably not. 🤔
Carl jung doesn't agree.
You have internalised misogyny and you don't love yourself. Don't let men bring you down.
@threshencrane6355 Are you joking? Use your intelligence and study philosophy. This was a "fad" belief that went out of style. Let me ask you one question. How many women have started wars? Wars are started by men, for profit. That emotion which you value so little, prohibits a woman from sending their boys to war. Intellect cannot be valued over intuition. Intellect cannot be valued over human kindness and compassion. Look up the word patriarchy. It's a negative system which has controlled this world for millenia. Understand that this world is not balanced and it won't ever be, until men can feel and express compassion and emotion, and women can use their intelligence as well as their feelings. In reality, many women can and do, and the men are lagging behind.
Sexual dimorphism is real.
There's so many animals that are sexually dimorphic, some tarantulas
Plain wrong
A disturbed mind.
Saying someones wrong is easy …u need to bring an argument
Well the suicide.at 23 pretty much seals the disturbed mind comment.
Wrong?
He seems to have been the Andrew Tate of his day.
He could have read anything on taoism and would have found an ancient philosophy which address all forms of duality including gender without the gross mysogeny he came up with.
So wrong in arriving at a thuggish infantile conclusion when as sn "intellectual" he had access to the wisdom of history.
Not disturbed, but highly sensitive. Perhaps too sensitive for the harsh truths of life. 🤔
@ and also maybe seeking ..wanting to die so u find out the truth ..he says in the book you wont be able to u derstand nature of duality unless you die…he wanted to die to understand the meaning of life …but he should not have done it becouse according to him it was a sim and no genius will do it…
@@patriciahayes2664 yes that would be one way to describe a disturbed mind.
Mal-adjusted to reality.
Poor parenting perhaps?
Truth is the antithesis of meaning. Gain too much of one, and lose completely, the other.
Nicely said
Never thought about it that way
I agree with his ideas of love for me I think that is more human than looking for happiness and we fool ourselves in that way. However, I am an atheist so I don't agree on the spiritual aspect and I don't believe in the gender construct. This is 1903, but I wonder what he would think now?
What is the difference between happiness and joy?
Based philosopher
Biased? Yes. He was unfortunately man of his times. 🤔
I'm afraid Otto sounds more like a deeply conflicted person who was suffering unconscious conflicts about his mother and his own sexuality. He was more of a screwball than a genius, and his story isn't compelling.
I think for what it's worth, he had the wrong idea about gender. He was a product of his time.Back then homosexulality was illegal. That,to me, says it all.
everyone is a product of their times intentionally or unintentionally
You're a product of your time. There is absolute truth. We live in a time where truth is viewed as subjective. That is bs . Because its self contradiction. If truth is relative is that true?
Its got nothing to do with time …quite the opposite…and he wasnt agains homosexuality or condemned it or theres substantial proof that he was a homosexual"…theres no proof
He literally argued in the book that homosexuality being illegal was unjust
@@sambrittenden4045 yes..people are so quick to pit blame to everything every opinion rather that asking why he thinks that way …i think especially second part of this book is very very deep…and first part hes theories on sexuality was new at that time but nobody to this day gives him credit
He wanted to go down the rabbit hole to find the truth. Unfortunely, people were not ready to hear it.
Otto Weinger risked everything to uncover the truth, and it lead to him unaliving himself.
Otto was a genius!
Why
That was great. THX
Childish sexism.
Nature doesn't expresses herself in a dualistic way. Male/female, black/white, rich/poor, not genius/genius, etc..., those are just conventions in our brain. Nothing has an intrinsic reality by itself and everything is impermanent. Reality is nothing more than aggregates of atoms without meaning that causally create interralated phenomena. We give meanings to concepts. This according to our experiences, our conventions and our personal paradigms. Labels only serve practical purposes. That is why philosophical model that requires a strict dualistic paradigms rarely are descriptive of any real phenomena, and often bring attachment to useless concepts. Those attachments are the source of unnecessary but unavoidable self inflicting sufference. This because you trick yourself to cling to something, while in reality you are clinging to nothing. My view on Otto Weininger? He was neither right nor wrong. He just invented conventions for himself to describe what he had in mind, but it was not an ultimate truth. That was only his own personal truth.
He didn’t argue gender was black and white
They misunderstood him
great video
Not that his Philosophy was right or Wrong or was true or false but quite often when one delves to deep into or at the wrong time and place one gets in over their head and drowns either by their own hand or others and even the environment itself. this is why well-known Philosophers and or Philosophys have levels and rights associated with them. This is due to the inherent danger and death that likely issues if not followed to the letter. Given the right Philosophy and practice of such it can and is so powerful it could raise the dead or rotation of the Eart, This is why they are fraught with booby traps sort of speak to prevent the untrained uninitiated from welding such power, some do anyway but are mostly short-lived and sooner or later do themselves and their fellows in.
What is The Wrong Time....!?
This is the real brainrot
Skibudi tollet is deeper than this
How AI desperatly tries to put you into box from all known pattetns and cannot create new complex real view and operates on shallow extraction ftom ocean of half-truths😂
Otto first, we are last
He just tried to get over hate.
Human nature can not be changed. Period.
@@sethrich2790 People who are alive have reason to be curious about the ways other peopke take.
Wasn’t very smart, then. You have to reconcile philosophy with daily life.
Cowered
Brave
Theres nothing flawed about his philosophy. Stop sneaking in your lame banter.
Based
dont become an nihilist or an Philosopher problem solved no need to thank me
Trigger? LOL
What us truth ? Pontius Pilate
sadly, what he said was was nothing new in eastern philosophy 😮
this is the basic tenet of sahaja yana buddhism
Somewhat of a masochist.
Nah his perspective on gender wasn't flawed. Damn Satan claimed yet another victim. The saddest part of this whole thing is just how unavoidable his death is. It was his destiny to take his own life. He literally needed to tap into higher dimensions of consciousness just to live a full life. If he had surrendered to God, his mind would've been able to handle the truth. The same love he was searching for couldve been his home for all eternity. But instead society turned on him. The world murders sons of God, they make them sound crazy and hateful. So because he tried to understand love, and because nobody knows love unless they know God, He was no match for satan. Who saw him in the spirit realm removing the shackles off his soul and decided to end him