I am so glad that my two favorite people and two kitties in the Pacific are safe. You are being sent much Love from the great state of Ohio and I thank you both for the smiles that you give me so generously, thank you!
Poor Jason! Those swells surely made him a bit sea sick. I don't enjoy you having troubles with your systems, but I do enjoy the reality of your life. Thanks for showing us the good and the bad!
What an amazing couple you are! When one is feeling grim, the other is optimistic! You truly complement each other. Which can probably be annoying at times for you, but it’s what makes you so strong and brave. I’m constantly in awe and inspired by you two!
I checked Amazon...$120 each. Even online cruising stores sell them for under $300...when I was a commercial fisherman I used to pack a spare $2,200 starter for my Volvo.
Good tip for ya. Have a spare starter on board, vacuum wrap it like you would a fish filet. The next time you need it will be still like new no rust. I use my vacuum machine to wrap a lot of stuff on my boat.
Absolutely if it was me I would have two sounds like lot but on ocean going vessel redundecy is a must also when you put your starter back together coat electrical connections with thin coat of did electric greasesalt water is horrible on electrical parts on my RV generator I Cary 2 extra fuel pumps it's well worth it
Skip the battery powered fuel pump. It would probably fail (or the batteies would be dead) when you need it most. Get a jiggle siphon. Simple. Dependable. A bit slow so get a 3/4" or a 1". Also the hose that most of them come with is terrible. Get two 5' section of reinforced vinyl hose and a nylon barb splice. Place the free end in the tank fill, the fuel jug higher and jiggle !
Glad to see you guys being concerned about entering and exiting an Atoll, on “ Sailing Zatara “ they showed a brand new boat that the crew made a few simple mistakes and ran aground and Lost their boat. They were experienced sailors that were not on their game that day. Stay Safe and keep enjoying life !
Hi Jason - when you pull the starter you must check the brushes and clean or sand the commutator - thats the copper segmented bit on end of armature, check for how much brush is left and that they have good spring tension against comutator, they can be tricky to put back on, most have some way of holding brushes back to slip it on - a small hole that you can put a pin in etc, lso a good idea to check each segment on comutator for resistance- if one is out it will cause brush sparking and fast wear - cheers !
When you get the new starter, get the old one rebuilt and have it for backup. Same with the alternator, water pump,and anything else that you can think of.
Judging from the looks of the starter, the bushings need to be replaced and the whole interrior of the starter needs to be cleaned. ALL of the iron particles need to be removed, and the bearings may need to be replaced. A complete rebuild, but not total rewire.
I bought a battery powered pump for my gas cans. I like it so much and it’s so much safer I actually got rid of the spouts on all my cans and just put caps on them. When I say safe, I mean I never spill a drop. The pump even automatically shuts off when it senses the tank your filling is full. It’s plenty fast too. Highly recommended.
I'm not sure if you have the room to make this work but you could start one engine pull the starter off of it while it's running put it on the other engine and get that one started. It is dangerous but it is possible. Thanks for the videos they are appreciated
I know what you mean about those cautionary tales (fear) and what they do to you. On the other hand, that is what also made you so focused on trying to get there during slack tide. It seems like it's always some game of walking the line between being educated but not overwhelmed. Well done!
Maybe take the starter off the running engine and crank the down one so they are both running - owned a charter company for years - that was the solution missed
Ugh. Some of these comments.... if you don’t have anything good or positive to say. Dont! You don’t need to criticize everyone and what they do. Jason and Nikki. Thanks for sharing. You guys are so sweet and I’m glad to see troubles and how you deal with them. Amy and I love you and are praying for you guys. Cheers
Jason, you have become a great diesel mechanic in a very short 2 years. I guess practice does make perfect. I also want to mention how I watched from the beginning of the sailing adventure when you walked onto a potential boat to purchase and I said to myself, "These two noobs are NEVER going to do this with any success. And you proved me wrong from the beginning. You have also become 2 of the best sailors I watch on RUclips. You don't make too many mistakes from my vantage point in a recliner in front of the TV. (it's sure easy to sail from my chair, I haven't run aground yet !!!" ) Anyhow, it's been fun to watch your adventures. Thank you.
Glad you arrived safely. I have to agree that starter needs replacing. It's true anything can be fixed but that motor looks like it will be cheaper to replace than to repair. All that dust inside would be a concern. Is it ash from burned windings, graphic wear pads, wiring, or grease from the bearings. Any of which is bad. You know AFTER you replace that starter and have the engine working again, perhaps you should remove and check the other starter. Stitch in time saves nine and all that.
my sunday is now complete.....be safe....jason i have told you about safety lines and life jackets.......in rough seas especially.....get a belt life jacket just in case.....thank you
Idea for refueling underway. Measure the outside diameter of the hose coming off the 5 gallon jug. Next time your in a supply store find flexible hose that will fit tightly over the existing spout. Not to long around a foot. Think about it.
The smoke, was probably the lacquer on the copper coils burning of. That's what finally killed the starter. Nice to have two motors though! ;) Good luck to you guys.
After seeing a newer boat having starter issues, I plan to order a spare starter and alternator before any future trips. Being a mono-hull and having only one motor, I really don't want to be without my engine. I can also get a better price if I'm not desperate for a replacement.
Diesel engines can be hand started with a crank, I’ve got mine setup with an extension so I have room to crank it if the starter fails. It’s not fun, but it’s better than grounding my mono. I have an empty pulley, (like to run an alternator) it hooks up with a belt to an optional hand crank. A quick google search should yield a photo.
@@svthreehourtour2057 I had a small single cylinder Yanmar Genset that came with a crank start...worked pretty well. I've never heard of a modern Yanmar with 2 or more cylinders that can be hand started...they need glow plugs and a fast crank
charles harper Yeah our yse12 has a factory option, on the y-3gm30 I used a pulley reducer and decrompression on the heads to get the speed up... throw the deco back off and after a clank and a bang it slowly speeds up to idle. The crank pulley is on a ratchet so when the engine takes off it doesn’t sling the crank around the boat, or in my case the engine stand.
Unless they are now making brushless starter motors (which is entirely possible) the carbon you found in your starter is brush dust. Your brushes, if so equipped, are probably down to nothing and by the way that is the reason for the hammer start. It is because the brushes are barely touching the armature and if you tap it with the hammer, it will work for a short time. If you carry a spare set of brushes, it's an easy fix. Of course, this is all moot if you have a brushless motor. Great vid as always. Love how you find your own way through these repairs without any formal training or experience as engineers. You are living my dream too. Remember, you have a wealth of knowledge at your finger-tips.
When U need to fuel at sea, take a hose, insert it into the neck on the jerrycan, make a seal around the hose with a piece of plastic, then blow air into the vent and the fuel will flow into the tank without any spill.
In an emergency, you could start one engine, then put the good starter on the other engine, to start it up. Lots of work but you get both engines running. Need ear plugs though
Ok at 8:53 or maybe before I have to tell you what you did severely wrong with that starter. The black debris is not from the field coil(long black magnets) or armature(shiny copper wires) they are from the brushes that contact the commutator(smaller armature) on the cap that you did not remove the armature from. You did not take the armature off so you did not inspect the real reason for your problems, the brushes are worn or the commutator has become filled with carbon deposits creating a direct short to ground(burning smell/smoke). 9 out of 10 starters that fail are mechanically sound and just need cleaning, for this, I recommend brake cleaning fluid however when in a pinch a baking soda/water paste and an old toothbrush will also work. And of course, wipe it down with a clean lint-free towel do not use just water to rinse(rust)!!!
You said that all wrong - its the thingy that is on there that has the black stuff that needs to be cleaned off that thingy and the other thingy before you can reinstall the thingy untested back in the big thingy so you can hit the thingy with a hammer thing while having your fingers crossed that the thingy will spin making the big thingy go round and round... but shucks never mind..... how the hell do these people order parts?
Just a couple of things that may help ou in the future. First, check the current first at the starter motor..current in and current out. Second, get yourselves a hand syphon thingie...so just syphon the fuel safely and with no spills from a standing jerry can into the tank, and you can add a filtered funnel to also keep the crap out. Thanks again for another fun video. Love all you guys share with us.
Hey Jason, You need to take a part the Starter motor solenoid and clean it. It's the small can on top of the starter. Under the that cap on the solenoid there is a copper disk that you can take off and turn it over and use the other side. Clean the 2 contacts that touches that copper disk . After so many crank up that copper disk and the contact post will get pitted from the amps.
Jason, you probably know there are 2 types of starters. One you can tap to help start the other you can damage. The Japanese cars first came with the type you don't hit , they have permanent magnates in the outer case that might crack when you hit it and the bits jamb or rub the armature. The Other old type of starters have 'field' wire windings in the outercase surrounding the armature but they have solenoids/contacts that jamb up and stop the wiring getting current and the starter spinning. I think the starter on the Yanmar looked like the permenant magnet don't hit type.! ( of course!) I looked at the video again you have a permanent mag starter . I understand you have dirt/carbon Jambing up the armature ( spinny bit) ( andvyou got to do what you got to do) but your problem may not be the dirt on the armature but dirt and corrosion around the brushes meaning they don't make good contact with the copper commutators on the armature , the shinney strips on the end of the armature the brushes ride on. All this stuff is steel and rusts over time in a salt water environment , DUH! But all starters come like that even the brush holders on my bow thrusters that live in the bilge ( really cheap and stupid but.......) you could spray everything with Any cleaner like WD 40 , kerosene , diesel etc to clean and lubricate .....it will dry off don't worry. If you can make sure you have good brush contact and the contacts in the solenoid are clean too the motor will have enough power to overcome any dirt between the armature and the outer case , remember it can start a Diesel engine! Any taping you do should be light with a plastic hammer to free up the brushes to get contact or the solenoid contacts only don't hit the outer case , sorry way to long a comment for something that happened a while ago . Glad you made it .cheers Warren Ps the permenanet magnet type are generally smaller and 15% lighter.
100% right never hit with anything heavy I'd only lightly tap with the handle of a hammer and then not hard best bet take it apart and clean it if you think you need to hit it. it will crack the magnets even if you can't see cracks. also use a bit of emery cloth to clean copper commutators on the armature. and it at best is a temp fix to get you some place to get it rebuilt
you can take the starter out on the working engine while running and install on the not working one and start it. have done that from one monohull to another monohull more times. we carry a new starter as spare
Wow - great episode - the "gap" reminded my wife of the time (Aug 2017) when she travelled on the tall ship Wylde Swan and convinced the captain to go through the Digby Gut (Bay of Fundy) under sail - tides and currents are crazy - An all hands on deck moment :) - Love your videos.
Getting caught without a spare starter, must almost feel like getting caught with your paints down. Lo No matter what, you guys make the best of ' come what may " ! I think that"s why I loves you"s most.! Can't thank you enough for the update. Definitely a big thumbs up.! Best wishes....Niagara.!
I use the Safety Siphon 068557 on Amazon. I can transfer 5 gallons in 1:40. I carry two. They are $10 each and work really well. No electricity needed and just shake it up and down in the Jerry can two or three times and the diesel flows. Works great on our Hunter 356. Would work fine on your rear transom area. Enjoy your videos and adventures. 👍
It’s not easy keeping up that smile all the time but you two are doing a fantastic job. Staying positive during such crazy days shows how strong you two are as a family. Keep it up.
Great video. I spent a month on a 32' monohull in French Polynesia a few years ago, and this episode is tempting me to return! First time I ever had poisson cru au lait de coco was at Chez Lili in Avatoru; highly recommended! I never got to see any hammerheads so I'm hoping you guys get/got to. Be safe. Cheers.
Safety -safety Mr. Jason only two of you on the boat and down a motor, starter needs rebuilt. Commutator turned-new brushes and bushings replaced and hopefully none of the riser bars on the armature are damaged if so replace it. You are truly fun to watch.
Hi Jason, have you always been mechanically minded or did you start to learn when you had the RV and then moved onto the boat? Also, you must be a fast swimmer if you are confident you can catch up with boat after falling over board 😜.
Just FYI On most Diesal engines after you have started them you can remove the starter and put in on the other engine and start it. Both motor will run and stop just fine.
Another sailing couple has a pair of HANDS-FREE (important) radios that they call their "marriage savers." They use them when docking, working on the mast, or just any time they otherwise would be shouting at each other. Such when doing engine work while underway. Also... lifejackets.
Hey Wynns, the carbon dust that's in there is wear on the parts... probably on the contact brushes inside the unit that connect power to the spinning armature. On some electric motors you can get replacement brushes, but on a lot when they're really small small motors, like a starter motor, it's usually just replace the whole motor.
Another great episode. Great story, great videography and editing. Also just checked your website. It’s amazingly one of the best and easiest to navigate. You have a remarkable positive attitude towards solving the on going challenges. Thanks and stay safe.
The carbon comes from the brushes that carry the current to the starter motor. When you hit ithe starter your causing the brush to reconnect with the commutator and transfer power. Basically replace the brushes and the springs every couple years for trouble free operation. The spring that pushes on the brush is the key to it working reliably.
You have a spare starter, it's on the running engine, use it to start the port engine. Forget pumps, a £7 jiggle syphon hose works wonders, no spills and no electrics.
I was gunna say this. As long as you're careful(not to lose a finger in a belt or something), there is no reason you can't pull a starter off a running engine. You should plug the hole with a rag so nothing gets in there, and it isn't the safest thing, but it is doable in a situation that merits it. Also, Jason, don't pound on starters. If a few taps don't do it, hitting it harder will just dislodge the magnets from the housing. Then you've really fubar'd it.
I would never consider to buy a boat to sail around the world, but after watching your videos, it definitely an intriguing ideas. Your videos are an inspiration to the average joe. The quality of the videos and production value are top notch. Keep up the good work!
Hi, love the channel. Hitting the starter with a hammer serves no purpose!!! You just damage the perminant magnets around the starter casing, that is the bits your emptying out each time, as your megnets get broken up your starter becomes more problematic. I did see a fair bit of salt corrosion in the motor on strip out, so some bearing lube would be usefull, although i cant imagine why your getting corrosion in the unit. Hope all go's well.
Nikki is cute when she is grumpy. Surprised you didn't have a spare starter or rebuild kit. Those are things you learn by book or by experience. Gotta be a NAPA store close by. Safe travel you four.
You did it. Good job. There are definitely a lot of stress is involved in sailing. It seems like there's always something that wants to break I quit working. But you rally to the cause. Smooth sailing.
Hi, I enjoy your sunny and open-hearted videos. Thx! Not sure if the comment area here is also for little advices but I can't hold back. AFAIK hitting the starter with a hammer has nothing to do with the contacts of the starter itself. It's about the magnetic relais attached to it. The klack sound when turning the key to ignition. If to old, the hammer can make it go klack.
12:35 no life line, no life jacket, down one engine in rough seas, and just one person to handle that big ass boat if Jason goes over board... that was so scary to watch... ASA Sailing 101 course, one hand for you, one hand for the boat.
msnpassjan2004 yes that is really stupid not to be safe especially when he was putting gas in, he could had easily flew off the stern on a bad wave hit.
@@thepaintedhuckleberry356 Neither of them had any offshore experience before they started 3 years ago...and their lack of experience under an experienced skipper really shows. They take far too many chances...from a lack of spares, safety lines, harnesses, and refueling at sea instead of at anchorage. Beginner's luck only lasts so long...it needs to be replaced by good seamanship.
Brilliant video !!.....My adrenaline levels went up a few notches during that crossing you made :) Compelling stuff !! Glad you made it ok... Hats off for undertaking mechanics in 8ft waves ! Iv'e been watching your videos since the early days. They inspired me to live in a motorhome for 2 years..... Best wishes to you both !!
That starter needs new bushes. The rotor (rotating part inside) is dragging against the stator (the fixed part outside containing the windings). You will destroy it like this.
Great Video can't wait to see the repair!!! Also on the starter don't forget to clean the windings and rotor as much as possible without removing any material. The regulator may also be the problem. Sometimes you can cross jump to see if it is the regulator or the stater motor.
In rough water you should use a siphon hose for transferring fuel. Using the can you can hit a wave and break off the spout, causing wasted fuel and a spill!. There are good ways to start the siphon with putting your lips to the hose.
@@billhamilton2366 Looks like we have 2 dead yesterday just 2 miles from shore here in MoretonBay. I just read the account of the guy cruising off South Africa who went off watch after his wife took over. Calm seas, 10-12 knots in an ocean going catamaran. He got up at 3am to find her gone. Backtracked along the track, but she was never found.
This is my favorite sailing channel because Nikki and Jason are upbeat, adventurous, and excellent videographers, but I cannot understand their disregard for safety--especially in rough seas. Maybe they're worried that clipped on PFDs with EPIRB would ruin their carefree aesthetic? Hundreds of people have posted comments asking for greater safety, though. Clearly their audience wants change. I was hoping Nick and Terysa (very safe sailors) would have a positive effect, but apparently not.
Jason, another comment for ya lol. problem may actually be the solenoid . there are copper contacts that connects power to the starter motor once the solenoid engages. when the contacts corrode power is not sent to the starter motor. try taking the solenoid apart, ya already took the starter apart. lol. HAPPY SAILING . Best channel on you tube. thank you!
You guys are the masters of a fun and informative videos. The content is absolutely relevant to any sailor. You also exemplify just the kind of attitude to have in any circumstance. Cheers!
Safety first Jason & Nikki. Even though it might not seem so rough, any time the boat has a non op motor, you should wear a life jacket/vest! Jason, you should have been wearing a safety harness also while refueling and stowing the canister away on the bow.
That is a situation where having a pump would be a great idea. Keep the can upright in a safe place and you can control the fuel going into the tank. No spills. Battery operated pumps can transfer five gallons in a couple of minutes or less. Use them for everything I need to transfer fuel these days.
The EPA hates us and makes those trashy safety nozzles you referred too. I use the old fashion siphon that you start with a small attached hand squeeze. No more risk of spills and you can purchase the length of hose for the siphon that best fits your boats diesel fill location. Good luck with that pesky starter..
I am so glad that my two favorite people and two kitties in the Pacific are safe. You are being sent much Love from the great state of Ohio and I thank you both for the smiles that you give me so generously, thank you!
Poor Jason! Those swells surely made him a bit sea sick. I don't enjoy you having troubles with your systems, but I do enjoy the reality of your life. Thanks for showing us the good and the bad!
What an amazing couple you are! When one is feeling grim, the other is optimistic! You truly complement each other. Which can probably be annoying at times for you, but it’s what makes you so strong and brave. I’m constantly in awe and inspired by you two!
Thanks for the love!
When you get that spare installed, order another.
I checked Amazon...$120 each.
Even online cruising stores sell them for under $300...when I was a commercial fisherman I used to pack a spare $2,200 starter for my Volvo.
Always a spare starter, alternator, water pump, sea water pump...
@@charlesharper2357 2200 for Volvo starter where do get them so cheap
@@glennimmortal
That was a few years ago for an MD70B from Auto Marine Electric.
Always go to Commercial suppliers...never yacht dealers.
Fuel up before your leave?
Good tip for ya. Have a spare starter on board, vacuum wrap it like you would a fish filet. The next time you need it will be still like new no rust. I use my vacuum machine to wrap a lot of stuff on my boat.
Absolutely if it was me I would have two sounds like lot but on ocean going vessel redundecy is a must also when you put your starter back together coat electrical connections with thin coat of did electric greasesalt water is horrible on electrical parts on my RV generator I Cary 2 extra fuel pumps it's well worth it
That's dielectric grease
rdmanone Brilliant idea! Could also use those giant ziplock bags where you can pull a vacuum on it for things like blankets, pillow, sweaters, etc.
Skip the battery powered fuel pump. It would probably fail (or the batteies would be dead) when you need it most. Get a jiggle siphon. Simple. Dependable. A bit slow so get a 3/4" or a 1". Also the hose that most of them come with is terrible. Get two 5' section of reinforced vinyl hose and a nylon barb splice. Place the free end in the tank fill, the fuel jug higher and jiggle !
Glad to see you guys being concerned about entering and exiting an Atoll, on “ Sailing Zatara “ they showed a brand new boat that the crew made a few simple mistakes and ran aground and Lost their boat. They were experienced sailors that were not on their game that day. Stay Safe and keep enjoying life !
Hi Jason - when you pull the starter you must check the brushes and clean or sand the commutator - thats the copper segmented bit on end of armature, check for how much brush is left and that they have good spring tension against comutator, they can be tricky to put back on, most have some way of holding brushes back to slip it on - a small hole that you can put a pin in etc, lso a good idea to check each segment on comutator for resistance- if one is out it will cause brush sparking and fast wear - cheers !
Couple items. Always have a spare started and alternator and where is your lift jacket when you are on the back of the boat?
I think this is the spare LOL ... but I must agree with the life jacket - scary stuff!
And, transferring fuel that should have been done at anchor.
@Nancy Ruggeri that's for the Brit Royals, it's an heir and a spare...
@Nancy Ruggeri lol, we kicked them to the curb in 1776!
Two is one. One is none.
You are my spirit of my (much) younger self. Love all your adventures (sea and land)! Keep on exploring! Blessings to you to always remain safe.
protip ... you can use jumper cables to test it before you reinstall the starter....
Nailed it!
Or screwdriver across the contacts.
A free deck rinse after a stressful day, it's the little things that make you happy! Love your videos.
When you get the new starter, get the old one rebuilt and have it for backup.
Same with the alternator, water pump,and anything else that you can think of.
Judging from the looks of the starter, the bushings need to be replaced and the whole interrior of the starter needs to be cleaned. ALL of the iron particles need to be removed, and the bearings may need to be replaced.
A complete rebuild, but not total rewire.
I bought a battery powered pump for my gas cans. I like it so much and it’s so much safer I actually got rid of the spouts on all my cans and just put caps on them. When I say safe, I mean I never spill a drop. The pump even automatically shuts off when it senses the tank your filling is full. It’s plenty fast too.
Highly recommended.
I'm not sure if you have the room to make this work but you could start one engine pull the starter off of it while it's running put it on the other engine and get that one started. It is dangerous but it is possible. Thanks for the videos they are appreciated
I know what you mean about those cautionary tales (fear) and what they do to you. On the other hand, that is what also made you so focused on trying to get there during slack tide. It seems like it's always some game of walking the line between being educated but not overwhelmed. Well done!
Maybe take the starter off the running engine and crank the down one so they are both running - owned a charter company for years - that was the solution missed
Great idea. I did not even know you could remove the starter from a running engine.
{face palm} D'oh!
Great idea
@@msnpassjan2004 After the starter engages the flywheel the bendix retracts and it can be removed if they work anything like a car starter.
@@msnpassjan2004 you can
I have not checked on you guys in a while, and I must say, you two have come so far, and are truly an inspiration.
Ugh. Some of these comments.... if you don’t have anything good or positive to say. Dont! You don’t need to criticize everyone and what they do. Jason and Nikki. Thanks for sharing. You guys are so sweet and I’m glad to see troubles and how you deal with them. Amy and I love you and are praying for you guys. Cheers
Thanks for the love!
Jason, you have become a great diesel mechanic in a very short 2 years. I guess practice does make perfect. I also want to mention how I watched from the beginning of the sailing adventure when you walked onto a potential boat to purchase and I said to myself, "These two noobs are NEVER going to do this with any success. And you proved me wrong from the beginning. You have also become 2 of the best sailors I watch on RUclips. You don't make too many mistakes from my vantage point in a recliner in front of the TV. (it's sure easy to sail from my chair, I haven't run aground yet !!!" ) Anyhow, it's been fun to watch your adventures. Thank you.
Wow was on the edge of my seat this entire video! Glad y'all made it safe and sound!
Another day in Paradise!
Glad you arrived safely. I have to agree that starter needs replacing. It's true anything can be fixed but that motor looks like it will be cheaper to replace than to repair. All that dust inside would be a concern. Is it ash from burned windings, graphic wear pads, wiring, or grease from the bearings. Any of which is bad. You know AFTER you replace that starter and have the engine working again, perhaps you should remove and check the other starter. Stitch in time saves nine and all that.
Cautionary tales, livin' on the edge & living the dream - couldn't have said it any better, Nikki. Thank you for sharing it all with us!
my sunday is now complete.....be safe....jason i have told you about safety lines and life jackets.......in rough seas especially.....get a belt life jacket just in case.....thank you
Idea for refueling underway. Measure the outside diameter of the hose coming off the 5 gallon jug. Next time your in a supply store find flexible hose that will fit tightly over the existing spout. Not to long around a foot. Think about it.
The smoke, was probably the lacquer on the copper coils burning of. That's what finally killed the starter. Nice to have two motors though! ;)
Good luck to you guys.
Well done to you both , your major asset is your positive ,creative thinking.
After seeing a newer boat having starter issues, I plan to order a spare starter and alternator before any future trips. Being a mono-hull and having only one motor, I really don't want to be without my engine. I can also get a better price if I'm not desperate for a replacement.
And you can get buy a rebuilt starter for a low price...after you swap out your dead starter get it rebuilt at your next major port.
Diesel engines can be hand started with a crank, I’ve got mine setup with an extension so I have room to crank it if the starter fails. It’s not fun, but it’s better than grounding my mono. I have an empty pulley, (like to run an alternator) it hooks up with a belt to an optional hand crank. A quick google search should yield a photo.
@@svthreehourtour2057
I had a small single cylinder Yanmar Genset that came with a crank start...worked pretty well.
I've never heard of a modern Yanmar with 2 or more cylinders that can be hand started...they need glow plugs and a fast crank
100% on that Bob. We do and have used them.
charles harper
Yeah our yse12 has a factory option, on the y-3gm30 I used a pulley reducer and decrompression on the heads to get the speed up... throw the deco back off and after a clank and a bang it slowly speeds up to idle. The crank pulley is on a ratchet so when the engine takes off it doesn’t sling the crank around the boat, or in my case the engine stand.
Glad your both safe ..Thanks for sharing.
Unless they are now making brushless starter motors (which is entirely possible) the carbon you found in your starter is brush dust. Your brushes, if so equipped, are probably down to nothing and by the way that is the reason for the hammer start. It is because the brushes are barely touching the armature and if you tap it with the hammer, it will work for a short time. If you carry a spare set of brushes, it's an easy fix. Of course, this is all moot if you have a brushless motor. Great vid as always. Love how you find your own way through these repairs without any formal training or experience as engineers. You are living my dream too. Remember, you have a wealth of knowledge at your finger-tips.
When U need to fuel at sea, take a hose, insert it into the neck on the jerrycan, make a seal around the hose with a piece of plastic, then blow air into the vent and the fuel will flow into the tank without any spill.
In an emergency, you could start one engine, then put the good starter on the other engine, to start it up.
Lots of work but you get both engines running. Need ear plugs though
Wow the filming and opening shots were masterful! Nice work!
You guys are living your best life!! Love the vidiography and content. Thank you
Cleo is very vocal yet sociable. Love your cats😻😻
Ok at 8:53 or maybe before I have to tell you what you did severely wrong with that starter. The black debris is not from the field coil(long black magnets) or armature(shiny copper wires) they are from the brushes that contact the commutator(smaller armature) on the cap that you did not remove the armature from. You did not take the armature off so you did not inspect the real reason for your problems, the brushes are worn or the commutator has become filled with carbon deposits creating a direct short to ground(burning smell/smoke). 9 out of 10 starters that fail are mechanically sound and just need cleaning, for this, I recommend brake cleaning fluid however when in a pinch a baking soda/water paste and an old toothbrush will also work. And of course, wipe it down with a clean lint-free towel do not use just water to rinse(rust)!!!
You said that all wrong - its the thingy that is on there that has the black stuff that needs to be cleaned off that thingy and the other thingy before you can reinstall the thingy untested back in the big thingy so you can hit the thingy with a hammer thing while having your fingers crossed that the thingy will spin making the big thingy go round and round... but shucks never mind..... how the hell do these people order parts?
Just a couple of things that may help ou in the future. First, check the current first at the starter motor..current in and current out. Second, get yourselves a hand syphon thingie...so just syphon the fuel safely and with no spills from a standing jerry can into the tank, and you can add a filtered funnel to also keep the crap out. Thanks again for another fun video. Love all you guys share with us.
Great, fun, interesting, magical, exciting, well produced video. I am so glad I've Gone With The Wynns,....
Loved seeing so much of Cleo and Singa. Great video. You both seem to take things in stride, life of a sailor!
You should get a shake siphon hose. Works better than a pump and not power needed.
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yep shake siphons are magic.
I've seen those shake siphon things and wondered if the work. Guess I'll have to order one now
The Original Safety Siphon works fantastic. I use mine all the time. I had to add a tye wrap on the copper end, but great tool.
I prefer the 1 inch- its like 8 times faster. But these are awesome!
Hey Jason, You need to take a part the Starter motor solenoid and clean it. It's the small can on top of the starter. Under the that cap on the solenoid there is a copper disk that you can take off and turn it over and use the other side. Clean the 2 contacts that touches that copper disk . After so many crank up that copper disk and the contact post will get pitted from the amps.
Jason, you probably know there are 2 types of starters. One you can tap to help start the other you can damage. The Japanese cars first came with the type you don't hit , they have permanent magnates in the outer case that might crack when you hit it and the bits jamb or rub the armature. The Other old type of starters have 'field' wire windings in the outercase surrounding the armature but they have solenoids/contacts that jamb up and stop the wiring getting current and the starter spinning. I think the starter on the Yanmar looked like the permenant magnet don't hit type.! ( of course!) I looked at the video again you have a permanent mag starter .
I understand you have dirt/carbon Jambing up the armature ( spinny bit) ( andvyou got to do what you got to do) but your problem may not be the dirt on the armature but dirt and corrosion around the brushes meaning they don't make good contact with the copper commutators on the armature , the shinney strips on the end of the armature the brushes ride on. All this stuff is steel and rusts over time in a salt water environment , DUH! But all starters come like that even the brush holders on my bow thrusters that live in the bilge ( really cheap and stupid but.......) you could spray everything with Any cleaner like WD 40 , kerosene , diesel etc to clean and lubricate .....it will dry off don't worry. If you can make sure you have good brush contact and the contacts in the solenoid are clean too the motor will have enough power to overcome any dirt between the armature and the outer case , remember it can start a Diesel engine! Any taping you do should be light with a plastic hammer to free up the brushes to get contact or the solenoid contacts only don't hit the outer case , sorry way to long a comment for something that happened a while ago . Glad you made it .cheers Warren
Ps the permenanet magnet type are generally smaller and 15% lighter.
100% right never hit with anything heavy I'd only lightly tap with the handle of a hammer and then not hard best bet take it apart and clean it if you think you need to hit it. it will crack the magnets even if you can't see cracks. also use a bit of emery cloth to clean copper commutators on the armature. and it at best is a temp fix to get you some place to get it rebuilt
Love this technical and non-technical explanation! I'm somewhere in the middle and understood a bit of both sides so really appreciate the lesson!
you can take the starter out on the working engine while running and install on the not working one and start it. have done that from one monohull to another monohull more times. we carry a new starter as spare
Love your work guys. Great show as always.
Thank you Wynns, nice job!
Jason, buy a shaker siphon for fuel transfer, easy snd cheap...never fails. You guys are great.
Wow - great episode - the "gap" reminded my wife of the time (Aug 2017) when she travelled on the tall ship Wylde Swan and convinced the captain to go through the Digby Gut (Bay of Fundy) under sail - tides and currents are crazy - An all hands on deck moment :) - Love your videos.
With the seas the way they were wouldn't some life lines been in order when fueling on the stern?
Getting caught without a spare starter, must almost feel like getting caught with your paints down. Lo No matter what, you guys make the best of ' come what may " ! I think that"s why I loves you"s most.! Can't thank you enough for the update. Definitely a big thumbs up.! Best wishes....Niagara.!
I use the Safety Siphon 068557 on Amazon. I can transfer 5 gallons in 1:40. I carry two. They are $10 each and work really well. No electricity needed and just shake it up and down in the Jerry can two or three times and the diesel flows. Works great on our Hunter 356. Would work fine on your rear transom area. Enjoy your videos and adventures. 👍
J Clark - we have used that one as well and love it!
It’s not easy keeping up that smile all the time but you two are doing a fantastic job. Staying positive during such crazy days shows how strong you two are as a family. Keep it up.
Whoa! That was exciting. Well done Wynn's. You are truly sailors. Don't want to lose Jason--please put on a safety harness.
Great video. I spent a month on a 32' monohull in French Polynesia a few years ago, and this episode is tempting me to return! First time I ever had poisson cru au lait de coco was at Chez Lili in Avatoru; highly recommended!
I never got to see any hammerheads so I'm hoping you guys get/got to. Be safe. Cheers.
Way to stay positive all the time. (For the camera anyway) So beautiful! Love you guys
Safety -safety Mr. Jason only two of you on the boat and down a motor, starter needs rebuilt. Commutator turned-new brushes and bushings replaced and hopefully none of the riser bars on the armature are damaged if so replace it. You are truly fun to watch.
You guys have great attitudes.
Love your videos too !
You guys made it....safe and sound! Yayyy!
Hi Jason, have you always been mechanically minded or did you start to learn when you had the RV and then moved onto the boat?
Also, you must be a fast swimmer if you are confident you can catch up with boat after falling over board 😜.
Back in the RV days Jason was famous for his "how *not* to" videos. He's come a long way!
Curious Minion
Just FYI On most Diesal engines after you have started them you can remove the starter and put in on the other engine and start it. Both motor will run and stop just fine.
Another sailing couple has a pair of HANDS-FREE (important) radios that they call their "marriage savers." They use them when docking, working on the mast, or just any time they otherwise would be shouting at each other. Such when doing engine work while underway.
Also... lifejackets.
Love how Jason is so positive!! Trying his hardest to keep Nikki calm. 😁😁
Hang in there you guyz, and thanks for keeping it real. 😎
Just watched the video of you two with Expedition Drenched in Niue. Can't wait to see the footage you guys got of that beautiful island.
You know what they say... it’s not an adventure until something goes wrong! ❤️
Hey Wynns, the carbon dust that's in there is wear on the parts... probably on the contact brushes inside the unit that connect power to the spinning armature. On some electric motors you can get replacement brushes, but on a lot when they're really small small motors, like a starter motor, it's usually just replace the whole motor.
Not clipped in while fueling? No.
That made me nervous. lol With my horrible balance, I would have ended up in the drink!
@@mytube0969 Be ok though, you have a 5 gallon can to keep you afloat🙃
@@neil1150 true. Haha Well just as long as I actually kept my grip on it! lol
I love it. Back in the day, my old Honda Accord had the same problem. Solution: copper penny. Not kidding.
Another great episode. Great story, great videography and editing. Also just checked your website. It’s amazingly one of the best and easiest to navigate. You have a remarkable positive attitude towards solving the on going challenges. Thanks and stay safe.
Awesome & thanks for the feedback!
The carbon comes from the brushes that carry the current to the starter motor. When you hit ithe starter your causing the brush to reconnect with the commutator and transfer power. Basically replace the brushes and the springs every couple years for trouble free operation. The spring that pushes on the brush is the key to it working reliably.
You have a spare starter, it's on the running engine, use it to start the port engine.
Forget pumps, a £7 jiggle syphon hose works wonders, no spills and no electrics.
It's amazing how few people have heard of them or used them.
Must have item on a boat...
I was gunna say this. As long as you're careful(not to lose a finger in a belt or something), there is no reason you can't pull a starter off a running engine. You should plug the hole with a rag so nothing gets in there, and it isn't the safest thing, but it is doable in a situation that merits it.
Also, Jason, don't pound on starters. If a few taps don't do it, hitting it harder will just dislodge the magnets from the housing. Then you've really fubar'd it.
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I would never consider to buy a boat to sail around the world, but after watching your videos, it definitely an intriguing ideas. Your videos are an inspiration to the average joe. The quality of the videos and production value are top notch. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the love!
Hi, love the channel. Hitting the starter with a hammer serves no purpose!!! You just damage the perminant magnets around the starter casing, that is the bits your emptying out each time, as your megnets get broken up your starter becomes more problematic. I did see a fair bit of salt corrosion in the motor on strip out, so some bearing lube would be usefull, although i cant imagine why your getting corrosion in the unit. Hope all go's well.
_Hitting the starter with a hammer serves no purpose!_
Except when it causes the engine to start, assuming that is the goal, as it was here.
Nikki is cute when she is grumpy. Surprised you didn't have a spare starter or rebuild kit. Those are things you learn by book or by experience. Gotta be a NAPA store close by. Safe travel you four.
Sometimes when you pay Atoll it's a terrible price.
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Very Clever
You must be a brit!
helloman1976 You need to be reported! 😝😝
You did it. Good job. There are definitely a lot of stress is involved in sailing. It seems like there's always something that wants to break I quit working. But you rally to the cause. Smooth sailing.
The cinematic opening on the video was amazing!
Hi, I enjoy your sunny and open-hearted videos. Thx! Not sure if the comment area here is also for little advices but I can't hold back. AFAIK hitting the starter with a hammer has nothing to do with the contacts of the starter itself. It's about the magnetic relais attached to it. The klack sound when turning the key to ignition. If to old, the hammer can make it go klack.
no lifejackets and safety lines in such rough conditions is no bueno guys!! Awesome work and vlog though, keep it up!!
Wow it got real. You handled it great. Love the scenes of Singa on land. It's great to see Cleo too.
12:35 no life line, no life jacket, down one engine in rough seas, and just one person to handle that big ass boat if Jason goes over board... that was so scary to watch... ASA Sailing 101 course, one hand for you, one hand for the boat.
amazing,, they have done thousands of off shore miles yet still there are those who want to tell them how to do it ...
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Eventually beginner's luck runs out...
msnpassjan2004 yes that is really stupid not to be safe especially when he was putting gas in, he could had easily flew off the stern on a bad wave hit.
@@charlesharper2357 I'd say they are past "beginners" stage....
@@thepaintedhuckleberry356
Neither of them had any offshore experience before they started 3 years ago...and their lack of experience under an experienced skipper really shows.
They take far too many chances...from a lack of spares, safety lines, harnesses, and refueling at sea instead of at anchorage.
Beginner's luck only lasts so long...it needs to be replaced by good seamanship.
Brilliant video !!.....My adrenaline levels went up a few notches during that crossing you made :) Compelling stuff !! Glad you made it ok... Hats off for undertaking mechanics in 8ft waves ! Iv'e been watching your videos since the early days. They inspired me to live in a motorhome for 2 years..... Best wishes to you both !!
That starter needs new bushes. The rotor (rotating part inside) is dragging against the stator (the fixed part outside containing the windings). You will destroy it like this.
.. it might be already destroyed, though.
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Judging by how much carbon was in it when they cleaned it earlier, the brushes must have been worn down to stubs.
Looks as if they only used this engine with the bad brushes. Should of been on inventory in spares for such a journey. Anyone know of the engine make?
@@jjssbailey
It's a 37 hp Yanmar...don't bother screwing around with brush kits...just replace the whole starter...they only cost $190.
@@jjssbailey , It's a Yanmar if I'm not mistaken.
Great Video can't wait to see the repair!!!
Also on the starter don't forget to clean the windings and rotor as much as possible without removing any material. The regulator may also be the problem. Sometimes you can cross jump to see if it is the regulator or the stater motor.
Ditto on other comments ... why no safety gear?
In rough water you should use a siphon hose for transferring fuel. Using the can you can hit a wave and break off the spout, causing wasted fuel and a spill!. There are good ways to start the siphon with putting your lips to the hose.
Capt. Ron fuel management. We're out of fuel, we must be there.
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Great way to end a video like this one “It’s beer time !”
Time to relax...
JASON, one engine, rough seas, and wind in the wrong direction. You should have had your harness/ppe on when you were refilling the gas tank.
They'll learn when one of them goes overboard one night.
@@billhamilton2366 Looks like we have 2 dead yesterday just 2 miles from shore here in MoretonBay. I just read the account of the guy cruising off South Africa who went off watch after his wife took over. Calm seas, 10-12 knots in an ocean going catamaran. He got up at 3am to find her gone. Backtracked along the track, but she was never found.
@@philgray1023 he pushed her. Lol
@@timmartin4798 I'm thinking "he's" not laughing so why are you? When someone loses a loved one, it's not funny.
This is my favorite sailing channel because Nikki and Jason are upbeat, adventurous, and excellent videographers, but I cannot understand their disregard for safety--especially in rough seas. Maybe they're worried that clipped on PFDs with EPIRB would ruin their carefree aesthetic? Hundreds of people have posted comments asking for greater safety, though. Clearly their audience wants change.
I was hoping Nick and Terysa (very safe sailors) would have a positive effect, but apparently not.
Jason, another comment for ya lol. problem may actually be the solenoid . there are copper contacts that connects power to the starter motor once the solenoid engages. when the contacts corrode power is not sent to the starter motor. try taking the solenoid apart, ya already took the starter apart. lol. HAPPY SAILING . Best channel on you tube. thank you!
I don´t know if this helps. Your problem solving videos are more entertaining than just another paradise beach:-)
Even when your are having sailing challenges and mechanical problems, your vlogs are perfect! Thank you.
Wow I love it
You guys are the masters of a fun and informative videos. The content is absolutely relevant to any sailor. You also exemplify just the kind of attitude to have in any circumstance. Cheers!
Safety first Jason & Nikki. Even though it might not seem so rough, any time the boat has a non op motor, you should wear a life jacket/vest! Jason, you should have been wearing a safety harness also while refueling and stowing the canister away on the bow.
That is a situation where having a pump would be a great idea. Keep the can upright in a safe place and you can control the fuel going into the tank. No spills. Battery operated pumps can transfer five gallons in a couple of minutes or less. Use them for everything I need to transfer fuel these days.
To say that I'm impressed is an UNBELIEVABLE understatement. You two ROCK!!!!
Another beautiful video! 😍😍😍
Jason, your hair is looking good. Awesome vlog, Nikki you a champ behind the stearing😎. Boatlife!
The EPA hates us and makes those trashy safety nozzles you referred too. I use the old fashion siphon that you start with a small attached hand squeeze. No more risk of spills and you can purchase the length of hose for the siphon that best fits your boats diesel fill location. Good luck with that pesky starter..