Beneficial bacteria don't live free floating in the water, they live on the surfaces. Killing algae and other things that do live free floating doesn't harm the balance of the nitrogen cycle. Not saying algae can't also be a sign of high nitrates, but if you simply get too much sunlight.... You get algae.
Sometimes everything can be exactly perfect and that green algae bloom just takes over even when you've done everything right. UV filters are awesome for clearing this up and reducing disease spread in your tank
I’m not an expert but I’ve been in the hobby for 18 years with the same 110g tank and never had green water until February. In my new house my tank is in the living room next to a large bay window and I live in Florida. I ended up redoing the entire tank new even with new gravel and within one week I had green water again. I fet I had no choice but to get a UV light and it made the tank crystal clear in 48 hours. During this 3 month process I did chemical treatments, purified filters, carbon, large frequent water changes , gravel cleanings, smaller feedings and in days it would come right back. I think my tap water may be contaminated with too many minerals causing the green water. I’m personally happy I got the light to solve the problem after exhausting every possible option first. I went full nuclear and for a 55W UV with a 210GPH pump it was amazing how clear the water got. I’m going to run it one day a week going forward as a maintenance tool for the tank so I can extend the bulb life. Great advice you gave here.
You probably have green water due to too much sunlight coming into the green house. The uv will take care of that and also get rid of any harmful bacteria as well. Unfortunately, good bacteria will also be killed. This wont be a problem though as the vast majority of good bacteria is on surfaces and not in the water column. Since the sunlight is hard to control I would think the uv would be beneficial to you.
Sun light is definitely a true factor. I used to have a fish tank away from lot of sun light and algae. But when i move it in a spot that receives lot of sunlight. Algae grow everywhere, on the wall, on the background
I would say only get on if u really need it. I got a 40 breeder next to a window & it stayed green. Put a uv on it a year ago & water stays crystal clear & fish are healthy
UV exists in nature. The sun provides it. The "good stuff" doesn't live in the water column. Also, you can get green water by just leaving water outside without adding anything to it (algae floats in the air). Also, I have an aquatics and evolutionary biology background and education (and live relatively close to your operations - richmond ky).
Agreed with using it as a temporary fix however most beneficial bacteria isnt in the water itself, its mainly attached to filter media, plants, gravel etc.
Im a water treatment whole saler. You're not off all together a UV light depending on the rating of the unit eliminates bacteria based on a combination of contact time and milijoule output. Depending on what you are trying to eliminate more contact time is required. HOW EVER the key is the more turbidity the water has the more ineffective the uv is. This is because you can't hope for the ultra violet rays to eliminate what they don't come into contact with. They are more or less for eliminating micro's that are invisible to the eye You can use the uv to prevent issues but unless you have a unit that is SO over kill that it has no business being on your fish tank, it's not meant to repair the balance in the fish tank.
Uv is saving my fish from a bacterial disease. I set up hospital tank. Ran uv thru big tank to steralize. Also put it in the hospital tank filterfor a bit too. Definetly helps clear things up like bacterial or fungal infections
About I found when I switched to a Dutch stem plant aquarium. The amount of bio film the plants put out caused the green water. Even closely watching feeding fertilizer and changing water twice a week didn’t help. Once I installed the UV the green water slowly went away.
Absolutely! I'm on the same page! Doing the 5-day blackout to kill the algae and will work on the natural balance on my tank by adding many more live plants.
I’m not an expert but I’ve been in the hobby for 18 years with the same 110g tank and never had green water until February. In my new house my tank is in the living room next to a large bay window and I live in Florida. I ended up redoing the entire tank new even with new gravel and within one week I had green water again. I fet I had no choice but to get a UV light and it made the tank crystal clear in 48 hours. During this 3 month process I did chemical treatments, purified filters, carbon, large frequent water changes , gravel cleanings, smaller feedings and in days it would come right back. I think my tap water may be contaminated with too many minerals causing the green water. I’m personally happy I got the light to solve the problem after exhausting every possible option first.
Pump the water through the filter then distilled then condesation then uv treatment then return to tank but if stop waste water from entering is first start and onsite waste treatment first to prevent polution come into being in the first place
The good bacteria is in the filter and the substrate not in the water column. UV sterilizers are awesome. I put an inline UV on the discharge side of my Fluval 407 and it’s the best $90 I ever spent.
i just purchased a fx uvc clarifier and a fx2 for a 20 gal long i cant wait to get home to the goodies, dont have green issue at all lol going to use it as a preventative maintenance 1 to 2 days a week. dont have any biological background and since getting into the hobby i wish i went to school lmaoooo. so fascinated with marine life
It greatly depends on what your purpouse is. in a bottled water facility you WANT to kill everything that is in the water, a UV light in that tank will also kill the fish, very slowly as it would indiscriminately kill cells, fish or algae or other
Uv filters in my opinion don’t have as much application for freshwater as they do for saltwater for corals uv filters can be great at increasing water quality and reducing bacteria in the column to prevent an infection within the coral colony’s
I was looking into them but it seems like it could harm the healthy biome as well. Sometimes to deal with algae I will turn my filter off and dose with hydrogen peroxide. This worked wonders for me and I have used this trick for years but found it rarely mentioned. Obviously you will still need to stop the al;gae forming factors but the hydrgoen peroxide bursts the cell walls of most algae. If you have a bad case you can watch it melt away. You need to be careful with you dosage though!!!! Too high a dose and you can hurt fish and shrimp.
@@Zonnedans I have a roughly 24gal tank and i wouldnt go more than 30ml of hydrogen peroxide. Also check the bottle and make sure it is 3% concentration. 30ml was a heavy does for the tanks but all my fish and amanos were fine with it. Typically I think I'd go 1ml per gallon and read up on how it may affect any animals or specific plants. RREMEMBER turn off your filter for at least an hour after dosing or it will kill the good bacterial culture there. If all works though it will abosolutely blast mosty forms of algae. You still need to work on the algae forming factors though becuase its living off of something happening in the tank(too much light, waste, etc.). Hope it helps! It was huge for me and I'm suprised it's not discussed more often.
Ph balance and nutrients content is most important. UV, but especially UVC, kills everything, including aquatic life you don't want dead if there is light leakage.
Your problem with blooms is something is out of balance. A UV steriliser is a tool that can be used to bring the extremes of that imbalance under control easily IMO
If it's UV-B you're killing pretty much any and all bacteria in the water, but if your water is that murky your UV light really isn't going to work. Lights gotta get through the water to clean the water.
Beneficial bacteria don’t live in the water column. What you are saying has some truth because some beneficial bacteria gets cought in a drift from time to time when fish move stuff around but mainly that’s not the case.
Wow - if this guy's conscience is wracked by what a UVC light is killing in a fish tank in which fish are imprisoned he must also be a deeply concerned, deep-green vegan and a geopolitically evangelical anti-war and bloodshed campaigner too, right ? Or not so much? Paul G
bro, u want the beneficial bacteria to live mostly on the media, so it is very okay not to have beneficial bacteria free floating in the water. thats how u get crystal clear water anyway, by having almost nothing in the water.
I oove my uv canidter filter in my pond, keeps it crystal vlear, and post uv i have a bio waterfall spill way and my uv light wattage is calsulated to not kill good bacteria and the fact thatbu can set up bio filtration post uv means u have good bacteria and bio filtration too, so ur not rightbat all bro.
This totally make no sense, you said u won't use it because U need to find out what's going on and why u water is green in the process for u to find out what's going on, your fish are going to die
that long rectangle on the top of your browser is actually something called a search engine , you can type your question there. they call it "looking it up"
This is what it looks like when you look directly at the light from a UV sterilizer.
Bro hates UV lights now
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Beneficial bacteria don't live free floating in the water, they live on the surfaces. Killing algae and other things that do live free floating doesn't harm the balance of the nitrogen cycle. Not saying algae can't also be a sign of high nitrates, but if you simply get too much sunlight.... You get algae.
True 100%
Sometimes everything can be exactly perfect and that green algae bloom just takes over even when you've done everything right. UV filters are awesome for clearing this up and reducing disease spread in your tank
I’m not an expert but I’ve been in the hobby for 18 years with the same 110g tank and never had green water until February. In my new house my tank is in the living room next to a large bay window and I live in Florida. I ended up redoing the entire tank new even with new gravel and within one week I had green water again. I fet I had no choice but to get a UV light and it made the tank crystal clear in 48 hours. During this 3 month process I did chemical treatments, purified filters, carbon, large frequent water changes , gravel cleanings, smaller feedings and in days it would come right back. I think my tap water may be contaminated with too many minerals causing the green water. I’m personally happy I got the light to solve the problem after exhausting every possible option first. I went full nuclear and for a 55W UV with a 210GPH pump it was amazing how clear the water got. I’m going to run it one day a week going forward as a maintenance tool for the tank so I can extend the bulb life. Great advice you gave here.
Adjust the camera so that you are not squinting from the backlighting?
You probably have green water due to too much sunlight coming into the green house. The uv will take care of that and also get rid of any harmful bacteria as well. Unfortunately, good bacteria will also be killed. This wont be a problem though as the vast majority of good bacteria is on surfaces and not in the water column. Since the sunlight is hard to control I would think the uv would be beneficial to you.
Sun light is definitely a true factor. I used to have a fish tank away from lot of sun light and algae. But when i move it in a spot that receives lot of sunlight. Algae grow everywhere, on the wall, on the background
I would say only get on if u really need it. I got a 40 breeder next to a window & it stayed green. Put a uv on it a year ago & water stays crystal clear & fish are healthy
UV exists in nature. The sun provides it. The "good stuff" doesn't live in the water column. Also, you can get green water by just leaving water outside without adding anything to it (algae floats in the air).
Also, I have an aquatics and evolutionary biology background and education (and live relatively close to your operations - richmond ky).
Hello from Richmond as well! Chadwick I’d love to connect. I just got a hi tech setup finally after a few years and I’m dialing in 3 aquariums
Agreed with using it as a temporary fix however most beneficial bacteria isnt in the water itself, its mainly attached to filter media, plants, gravel etc.
Im a water treatment whole saler.
You're not off all together a UV light depending on the rating of the unit eliminates bacteria based on a combination of contact time and milijoule output. Depending on what you are trying to eliminate more contact time is required. HOW EVER the key is the more turbidity the water has the more ineffective the uv is. This is because you can't hope for the ultra violet rays to eliminate what they don't come into contact with. They are more or less for eliminating micro's that are invisible to the eye
You can use the uv to prevent issues but unless you have a unit that is SO over kill that it has no business being on your fish tank, it's not meant to repair the balance in the fish tank.
the UV sterilisers basically stops the multiplication of bacteria, not the bacteria itself. The DNA replication is sensitive to the UV.
Uv is saving my fish from a bacterial disease. I set up hospital tank. Ran uv thru big tank to steralize. Also put it in the hospital tank filterfor a bit too. Definetly helps clear things up like bacterial or fungal infections
About I found when I switched to a Dutch stem plant aquarium. The amount of bio film the plants put out caused the green water. Even closely watching feeding fertilizer and changing water twice a week didn’t help. Once I installed the UV the green water slowly went away.
Absolutely! I'm on the same page! Doing the 5-day blackout to kill the algae and will work on the natural balance on my tank by adding many more live plants.
I’m not an expert but I’ve been in the hobby for 18 years with the same 110g tank and never had green water until February. In my new house my tank is in the living room next to a large bay window and I live in Florida. I ended up redoing the entire tank new even with new gravel and within one week I had green water again. I fet I had no choice but to get a UV light and it made the tank crystal clear in 48 hours. During this 3 month process I did chemical treatments, purified filters, carbon, large frequent water changes , gravel cleanings, smaller feedings and in days it would come right back. I think my tap water may be contaminated with too many minerals causing the green water. I’m personally happy I got the light to solve the problem after exhausting every possible option first.
add daphnia, they will help keep that green water clear.
Fish may (most likely will) eat all the daphnia faster than they can reproduce.
It doesnt kill beneficial bacteria in the filter media if its not exposed to the light.
The idea is whatever beneficial you have is in the filter the rest can be free of harmful stuff.
not a fan either but it works for me.
It makes algea stick together, it doesn't kill it. The filter collects it more effectively thereafter.
Incorrect, that's what a liquid flocculent treatment does. UVC destroys the DNA of algae and microbes.
Pump the water through the filter then distilled then condesation then uv treatment then return to tank but if stop waste water from entering is first start and onsite waste treatment first to prevent polution come into being in the first place
The good bacteria is in the filter and the substrate not in the water column. UV sterilizers are awesome. I put an inline UV on the discharge side of my Fluval 407 and it’s the best $90 I ever spent.
Agreed
Beneficial bacteria doesn't live in the water column guy. UV affects the DNA of the bacteria and algae shortening it's life span...
i just purchased a fx uvc clarifier and a fx2 for a 20 gal long i cant wait to get home to the goodies, dont have green issue at all lol going to use it as a preventative maintenance 1 to 2 days a week. dont have any biological background and since getting into the hobby i wish i went to school lmaoooo. so fascinated with marine life
It greatly depends on what your purpouse is. in a bottled water facility you WANT to kill everything that is in the water, a UV light in that tank will also kill the fish, very slowly as it would indiscriminately kill cells, fish or algae or other
Uv filters in my opinion don’t have as much application for freshwater as they do for saltwater for corals uv filters can be great at increasing water quality and reducing bacteria in the column to prevent an infection within the coral colony’s
I was looking into them but it seems like it could harm the healthy biome as well. Sometimes to deal with algae I will turn my filter off and dose with hydrogen peroxide. This worked wonders for me and I have used this trick for years but found it rarely mentioned. Obviously you will still need to stop the al;gae forming factors but the hydrgoen peroxide bursts the cell walls of most algae. If you have a bad case you can watch it melt away. You need to be careful with you dosage though!!!! Too high a dose and you can hurt fish and shrimp.
What ratio to liters/ ml do you use? I want to try this. Thank you!
@@Zonnedans I have a roughly 24gal tank and i wouldnt go more than 30ml of hydrogen peroxide. Also check the bottle and make sure it is 3% concentration. 30ml was a heavy does for the tanks but all my fish and amanos were fine with it. Typically I think I'd go 1ml per gallon and read up on how it may affect any animals or specific plants. RREMEMBER turn off your filter for at least an hour after dosing or it will kill the good bacterial culture there.
If all works though it will abosolutely blast mosty forms of algae. You still need to work on the algae forming factors though becuase its living off of something happening in the tank(too much light, waste, etc.). Hope it helps! It was huge for me and I'm suprised it's not discussed more often.
Ph balance and nutrients content is most important.
UV, but especially UVC, kills everything, including aquatic life you don't want dead if there is light leakage.
Your problem with blooms is something is out of balance. A UV steriliser is a tool that can be used to bring the extremes of that imbalance under control easily IMO
The uv sterilizer would kill the beneficial microbes as its indiscriminate, youd need a more specilised form, its basically chemotherapy for your tank
If it's UV-B you're killing pretty much any and all bacteria in the water, but if your water is that murky your UV light really isn't going to work. Lights gotta get through the water to clean the water.
UV light is like eliminates sun light thru aquarium if u r setup indoor
Well um UV....yep everything...it kills all....
Beneficial bacteria don’t live in the water column. What you are saying has some truth because some beneficial bacteria gets cought in a drift from time to time when fish move stuff around but mainly that’s not the case.
How about UV sunglasses ? 😎
There’s ways do do things by buying equipment and there’s ways to do things by mimicking nature in our aquarium.
Green water is very common in nature.
UV light does mimic nature. It mimics sun light.
Wow - if this guy's conscience is wracked by what a UVC light is killing in a fish tank in which fish are imprisoned he must also be a deeply concerned, deep-green vegan and a geopolitically evangelical anti-war and bloodshed campaigner too, right ?
Or not so much?
Paul G
bro, u want the beneficial bacteria to live mostly on the media, so it is very okay not to have beneficial bacteria free floating in the water. thats how u get crystal clear water anyway, by having almost nothing in the water.
The sun is also a UV sterilizer so this logic doesn’t really hold up
Natural body of water have uv from the sun that home aquarium doesn't have. Use in moderation I guess 😅
Matt Damon
Depends what fish your keeping there must for KOI. I tank I wouldn't be to concerned. If you can't get a fish tank right your doing something wrong.
I oove my uv canidter filter in my pond, keeps it crystal vlear, and post uv i have a bio waterfall spill way and my uv light wattage is calsulated to not kill good bacteria and the fact thatbu can set up bio filtration post uv means u have good bacteria and bio filtration too, so ur not rightbat all bro.
Blood seems so fucking high
This totally make no sense, you said u won't use it because U need to find out what's going on and why u water is green in the process for u to find out what's going on, your fish are going to die
Clint Eastwood
Lies. I had green water and UV lights were the only thing that solved it.
A lot of "probably" is what this entire opinion is. Good lord man, get educated.
I'm not a fan of squinting rant videos
BS
So basically you don’t know and ignorantly make a decision on something? Tsk tsk
Put your sunglasses on bro I know you're trying to look professional for the video but your eyes are squinted shut litterally all the way
Who cares what you think? You don't know jack about how they work.
that long rectangle on the top of your browser is actually something called a search engine , you can type your question there. they call it "looking it up"