I'm in my late twenties, I'm not married and I don't have any kids yet I still find this minivan attractive. It's reliable and practical, it can be a great camper van. Am I weird to like this at this age?
Mikael Borhzka nooo way bro it’s what you like :), I’m glad that Toyota keep a V6 in this van😃, but it’s kinda how that I’m only 19 but I’ve always loved the LS400 from Lexus😄
You not the only one. I’m 24, not married, don’t have kids yet and I do love this minivan. I rather get this over luxury car. Why? This van is super comfortable, smooth on road or highway, good MPG, massive cargo area that you can easily fit a big fridge and the acceleration is great for minivan.
Completely agree, back in my late teens when I was surfing a lot I drooled over some of the vans on shore near the lineup. For camping nothing beats the Chrysler/Dodge vans though with the stow and go seats that make a nice flat floor, too bad about the reliability though.
once you get over "the loss of the man card" or "small penis syndrome", it all comes back when you realize how fucking functional the thing is. That v6 hauls ass for being a giant bus. It's expensive for a van but then again, everything is. Totally worth it on the used market.
The Odyssey is still the best looking among minivans to me. It has that interesting styling (that yet works) which makes it's design stand out from the crowd. The Sienna is still handsome (heck it does look pretty good in the SE trim at least), but it just looks like a regular minivan. Not that it's ugly... but just nothing special. Toyota might amp up the swag with the next generation of its "swagger wagon" hopefully coming ASAP. When it comes to reliability however, Toyota still has you covered of course (as usual).
I know mini vans have a bad rep, but if you just blur out everyone's opinion it is a great vehicle even for a single person. I work night shifts at a hospital, with meetings during the day. I take naps in my car so I don't have to drive home twice. That cargo space in the back looks like first class nap time to me!
We bought our SE sienna before we found out we were having our first. We needed the practicality and was the only nice looking van out there. Coming from a Honda guy, and my parents have a Odyssey Touring, we haven't looked back at all. It's too bad the majority of people are too "proud" to drive a van
We have had our 2018 XLE Sienna for over a year now, and love it. We had to have it modified for a wheelchair user (my son) before delivery. That gave it the power kneel feature, which raises the whole van about 10" higher than normal. Now it looks like a massive SUV. It drives beautifully. It is so much more secure and solid than the 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan that we had for 16 years (also modified for wheelchair). You really feel that you are driving a SUV, and with the almost 300 hp, it has all the power you need. Toyota's safety features are a bonus, and should be mandatory on all vehicles.
We own a 2015 SE. A nice car, very practical. We just changed tires to Kumho Crugen Premiums. The power is nice, handling is excellent, and mpg is tolerable, if driven moderately. Thanks.
I don’t care about the tech, we had a Honda Odyssey and at 120k miles had to replace the alternator and then a few months later the transmission went. So I’d choose the sienna over any other.
Redline Reviews. Good for you, for pointing out that the engine has both Direct and Multi-Port injection, eliminating Direct Injections intake valve carbon build up problems.
Great review. I drove the 2018/2019 odyssey, Sienna, and pacifica and just love the Pacifica and how it drives and interior layout and controls. No comparison as you should expect since the Pacifica is a newer design. We purchased the Pacifica and have had it for two months now and have no complaints.
I've always liked the styling of the SE trimmed Sienna's since it was introduced. Definitely would take this with AWD over an SUV any day. Way more useful IMO.
Wanna know something funny? Only the outer part of that tail light is LED, the interior part (located on the hatch) is an incandescent bulb channeled through those little holes to make it look LED lol
Lol Sofyan I appreciate the effort on the intro, but there’s only so much you can do to make the cargo room and folded seats of a minivan sexy. Nice try though bro. When my mother in law came to visit she rented a Sienna Limited. I was actually blown away by the level of refinement, technology, and space. We used it to haul some 4’x8’ tables and it swallowed them just fine. The Sienna also doesn’t rattle as much as the Odyssey does. The Odyssey’s cargo area is annoyingly loud. Overall, the Sienna is old, but thanks to a new V6 and transmission and standard autonomous safety features, it’s not outdated. If I was shopping for a minivan, a loaded Limited with AWD would beat all the competition.
One thing to note about the Sienna's panoramic roof, is that the rear sunroof opens as well as the front. I don't know of many other cars that offer that feature
This review came at the perfect time as I'm looking to get one for the wife. Between this and the Odyssey but I like how the toyota doesn't have auto start stop and an actual gear lever.
All the Toyota Corolla taxis in my area all have led headlights. If they put them on “base” Corollas then they should incorporate them in all their products
I have the 2014 model and i really like it. i miss driving manual but may have a weekend car in the future. this van is still fun and perfect for a family.
Hoping for the next generation Sienna to come out soon. While this generation is still quite competitive (heck, the only AWD minivan?) and has aged well, I still think it's getting quite old.. ..I mean, Toyota gave us latest redesigns like the new Avalon that was almost perfect, the new RAV4 that was interesting, the new Camry that was impressive, and the new Corolla (both sedan and hatchback) that was surprising.. heck so far even the new Supra that seems badass... Toyota should bless the "swagger wagon" to amp up its swag within this segment. Responding to the insane SUV craze though: Even compared to the largest SUVs on sale, minivans are still more family-friendly than any SUV you can think of... :3
I'mJustFarhan My mans you are fucking everywhere. Seriously though I do agree. Toyota makes facelifts at the WORST times. Now we might be expecting a redesign in 2022
Back in the day when the world (and I) were young and dinosaurs roamed the highways, I owned a 1989 Mazda MPV minivan with AWD. It was a great van and its AWD once got me out of a ditch in deep snow on a logging road in the Cascade mountains. Might have saved my life, in fact. As I understand it, the Sienna is the only minivan to offer AWD and with a 300 hp engine it looks like a very good option, especially in harsh winter conditions and even in the messy winters we see in the Pacific Northwest. Would probably have avoided the wheel spin demonstrated in the review, in fact. Though I think the Odyssey is an overall superior choice, the AWD would be a major plus for me if I were in the market for a minivan.
I'm always a fan of the third generation Sienna with it's boxy shape. But the fourth generation Sienna takes a whole new level with it's more sleeker design.
your review on the sienna is very bias,theres nothing wrong with the sienna except that it doesn't come supercharged or a turbo other then that its a great/awesome vehicle.
"Toyota was the first to introduce roll down windows in a minivan." Somewhere, a 2nd generation Mazda MPV engineer just sighed... :P Great review per usual!
Only if you can replace the Led's in the headlight easily, because right now on just about every new car with Led headlights the Led's are not replaceable.... So you have to replace the whole dam headlight to fix it! Oem Led headlights are very expensive usually $600-1000+ each side..........
Carlton C we don't get those here, but if Lexus made a minivan, it would be a Sienna AWD Limited in Pearl white. It's a near perfect vehicle for the family and does quite well in the snow.
@@Newzchspy never been into a Sienna before since we didn't get it in Asia, but I've been riding the 2017 Alphard for almost a year. I would say if Lexus make a luxury MPV, it would most probably a Toyota Alphard Executive Lounge V6 AWD in Pearl White. Might not have the length of the Sienna, but it's plenty spacious for 6.
Carlton C wish we got it here. Unfortunately, minivans here are on their way out and sales have been dropping the past 10 years. Anyone who has kids or a large family understands the utility. Neither Ford nor GM makes one. The Pacifica has done well. The Sienna is getting long in the tooth. The Odyssey makeover is two years old now and Kia has a decent unit. I just don't see much of a future for them with the popularity of the CUV segment ( think CRV, NX300 , RAV4 etc) . I am still waiting for the 2020 Gen IV Sienna that's been long promised (TGNA based). Long live Iacocco's "minivan."
I know I would enjoy the current Honda Odyssey over the current Sienna. But, something to consider, the Sienna has a timing chain while the Odyssey has a timing belt that has to be replaced every hundred K. The Honda Odyssey transmissions rarely lasts past 200k, while with the Sienna, you can possibly get 250 to 300k out of your original transmission. The lower trim levels of the Odyssey use the same 9 speed transmission that is in the Chrysler Pacifica which is more reliable than a genuine Honda Odyssey transmission. The upper trim level of he Honda Odyssey comes with a 10-speed genuine Honda transmission that drives better but may have the poor reliability that has plagued Honda Odyssey transmissions in he past. My heart wants the Odyssey but my desire for reliability with no timing belt replacements make me want the Sienna over the Odyssey, the Pacifica, and the Caravan.
These don’t actually have a Sport mode. It seems to confuse people because the S on the shifter doesn’t actually do anything but lets you set the top gear. It doesn’t change anything else about how the vehicle behaves.
One thing that has always impressed me about minivans is how huge they are inside. Nothing else can I camp in. This van definitely looks outdated. Although all those big crossovers also have the option for all the biggest amenities, just not quite as cavernous.
Really surprised that Toyota hasn't upgraded the platform. Remembered that I rented a then brand new 2011LE v6 8 seater in late 2010 for a 2 week, 1500 mile family road trip from San Francisco, Anaheim, Grand Canyon and Vegas. Was quite impressed how it tackled the curves at Yosemite and curvier sections of Pacific Coast Highway 1. Nothing beats the convenience, load and people capacity and comfort of a minivan for a family road trip. Didn't like the really cheap looking interior though...seems like the later refresh didn't improve on it much.
Sienna is the most useful vehicle in my family (yes, I own a 2007 XLE) and it is like a dream driving long distances with the whole family and the craps that associated with married life... I only wish the price of the mini-van won't creeps up to $50,000.00
lol, it still looks like my bought new 2004 Toyota Sienna minivan when my kids were young. Glad I don't have to drive that or a suv anymore, it's Corvette time now!
Toyota really need to up their minivan game if they are serious about keeping the market. The competition is already a whole generation ahead. Only redeeming feature is the reclining captain seats in the Limited trims.
It actually came out in May 2010 as an 11 model . The engine on all the Sienna's is the same V6, the SE is no different than the LE or XLE. Oh, and big correction: It was called the Swagger Wagon in its ads......@01:40
MUSTASHEO lll I had one and it was Gen 3, SE and got it on the day before Memorial Day. One of my fav vehicles of all time. Had a new one every two years after that. Wife loves it, but hates the minivan identity. Have to let her out up the street ;)
The 2018-19 Odyssey is a better looking min-van but, my next min-van will most likely be a Sienna since it has a timing chain instead of a timing belt. The Sienna also has a transmission that lasts forever while the Odyssey lacks a hardy transmission.
Bought a 2017 xle premium for the wife And turn the traction control off and put it in manual mode and it'll burn the tires through 1st and 2nd gear. Lol its definitely not slow
I am a painting contractor and I paint out of one of these. I buy a vehicle not for WHAT I AM but WHAT I DO. I had a 2011 SE but did not like all the black on the interior they have had since 2015. I upgraded to a 2018 Limited just because of the dash.
My family owns a toyota sienna(2006, top trip with leather and heated seats etc) and Im convinced its immortal, Ive hit deer with it and my mother has hit tree and walls with it and my sister got T boned in it and the only thing that has happened is SEVERAL dents, and the heater in the passenger vents failed but so far only issue
One thing I love about Toyota - they don't update parts (line the steering wheel and its switchgear) just to make it look more modern or sporty. If something works well, they just keep using it. This can make the car look a bit dated, but it has some major benefits. If a piece of equipment has proven itself to be functional and reliable, keeping it means it will contribute to the overall functionality and reliability of the car. Also, if you have ever driven a Toyota and get into a new one, you will be instantly familiar with the way things work - and if you are new to Toyota, you don't have to have an engineering degree to figure it out. Lastly, by using the same parts for years, Toyota can keep costs lower. Simplicity and a conservative approach to change, also helps Toyotas remain drive-able years after other cars have fallen apart.
Problem with the SE has always been its MSRP. Not many who favor a minivan is willing to pay $38k+, even if it is sporty looking. Good review as usual tho, bro.
If it was a Mazda Van / Honda Van with 300hp he would be praising it. Gotta love bias automotive reviewers This Sienna is definitely due for a next gen but this generation to me is great looking especially in this sporty trim. Toyota make a sporty cool looking van and he complains about the looks.. make it look normal they complain it’s boring.. the fuck. What puzzles me is the can actually looks cool.
My thoughts exactly lol. Love his reviews but this was a bit painful. We have a 2017 SE and bought it over the competition. The interior is a bit dated, but the engine/transmission, exterior design, and deptite what this review says the handling was far superior to the Odyssey. My parents have a 2016 Odyssey Touring, so we had extensive time with it behind the wheel.
SilverstoneGC The interior being “dated” is natural its has aged very well and this is very useful and ergonomic. That should be his conclusion not “dated”. This Seinna is the only sport minded van in its class you think he would give it credit for that but he seems to bash it. Good on Toyota for offering a sport option and in this sport trim to me it’s the best looking van hands down. Sporty looks and 300hp what’s not to like? But these journalists love to nit pick when it comes to Toyota while on the other Spectrum of things OVER praising other brands.
Agreed! I'll be honest im lowering it with a nice set of wheels this summer. It looks awesome. I don't hate the interior by any means. Has the easiest access 3rd row, easiest fold down seats, and I find the second row comfortable and wouldn't trade that for stow and go. My only complaint is for the price of the SE premium, I want a better stereo. The speakers are terrible. Other then that I wouldn't change a thing
And I think they are still doing something right. In my city, you see a tons of SE Siennas around. Usually driven by younger families. Older generations seem to opt for the LE/XLE/LIMITED. I think Toyota appealed 100% to the demographic they targeted with the SE
This guy isn't normal man i swear, Even on Toyota reviews he's defending Toyota lol, Here let me try. If this was a 2017 Odyssey video you'd be the first one crying about how it's been the same body since 2011 and the sienna has 17hp more LOL, Toyota goes 2011 to 2019 (There won't be a new generation for 2019, Not after only 1 year of a facelift) and you defend it, Gotta love bias youtube comments. See what i did there lol.
why i am I single person and considering buying a minivan? Dunno but I think I will like owning one. i feel like the Highland looks like a Minivan w/ the wrong doors attached, so I might as well just get a minivan and ahave all the room and comfy 3rd row seats that it has to offer before I get a Highlander
Great review as always Believe It or Not people are modding minivans it has become a thing in Florida where I'm at Odyssey and Sienna slamming them on the ground air ride Volk racing rims SSR it's amazing roof racks and Stereos to make ego death
Such an overall professional, even elegant, vehicle journalist/reviewer, but you honestly kill it for me everytime you use the word, "crap" or "crap ton" as descriptive terms. It sounds as if you're struggling for a term to articulate your opinion but failing to recall one, so you end up with "crap." It's just a little weird because your overall presentation is actually really prestigious by comparison to most reviewers. To me it's no different than if I were to hear a news anchor use the term "crap ton" when announcing Breaking news. Lol! Just my observation. I still LOVE your reviews, so please keep up the great work!
Sofyan- I'm afraid Toyota was not tbe first to introduce roll-down windows on the rear-doors of a van. The 1995 Isuzu Oasis/Honda Odyssey did indeed have roll-down windows.
Toyota should stop being cheap and boost up their interiors for once. I get its supposed to be an affordable brand, but even Hyundai has better features and interiors
sevan grigoryan what Toyota needs a redesign? Besides for this and the sequoia and definitely the tundra? New Toyota’s like the Camry/corolla are incredible
Minivans Interiors isn't made for luxury propurse, so you kinda expects that minivans doesn't have that good of materials. I also agree that it is time for a full redesign to keep up with the other models.
At 300hp, this SIenna minivan can have better power to weight ratio, aerodynamics, fuel economy, cargo capacity, and lower center of gravity than most SUVs.
Why do so many cars these days have the Hideous door handles like the ones on this Siena? They are a blight and a carbuncle on the side of so many vehicles. The way to do it is the way the Range Rover Velar does it, or the Aston Martin DB9. Even my old 1988 Honda Accord that I had when I was a kid had beautifully flush door handles.
The next gen Sienna, which will be in the 2021MY will be wider, longer, better fuel ecomony. The next gen Sienna might get a hybrid version. The 2021 Toyota Sienna might get paddle shifters.
I have the exact same van it is identical except I have the intune 3.0 premium I was disappointed to finally receive our van An find out it did not come with the remote start I’m really hopping some day there will be an update to add this option
Ah, the slow lingering death of the minivan. Every time I see a minivan review I hear the reviewer note how much more practical the vehicle is than a comparable SUV/CUV. Yet the message seems to be largely ignored by most consumers. What's the deal? Is it because male consumers have lost their taste for them? Not likely. "Real men" never took to minivans. The "cab forward" design didn't appeal to males who want a long, long hood stretching out before them. It suggests a BIG powerful and "potent" engine. Even better if it has a protruding grill (Lookin' at you CX-9) that makes the point even more obvious. From the beginning minivans acquired the reputation (and the stigma) of being "mom-mobiles." And when CUV's came along to replace a "truck" feel with the driving dynamics of a car, it was the best of both worlds for men who never took their vehicles off-road but wanted them to feel "tough." No, the declining popularity of minivans stems from the fact that females (who have a major voice in the purchase of "family" vehicles) increasingly rejected them. How come? First, it's difficult to avoid the fact that younger generations of women increasingly reject the stigma of being "just a housewife" and accurate or fair or not, minivans project that vibe. But that's not all. Females may not find the same appeal as males in a massive hood in front of the driver but it does suggest strength and security in the event of an accident. And safety, real or perceived, is especially important to female drivers. Further, as highways filled with SUV's/CUV's all drivers, but especially women, feel overmatched in terms of visibility from a driver's seat. A "command" (i.e. taller) driving position gives them a better chance to see what's going on around them. Of course it's a vicious circle with more bigger and taller vehicles making the problem worse. But like nuclear deterrence individual purchasers may see no alternative. Minivans still appeal to those with large families to haul around, especially if extended family trips (or a family with multiple hockey players) are a priority. But large families are a smaller and smaller portion of the population (except perhaps in Utah.) Bottom line is that the few manufacturers who offer minivans (Toyota, Honda, Chrysler, and Kia) seem to be fighting a long term losing battle.
I would not have a problem with it. I drive a 2016 F165. (F150 with the 2.7 ecoboost) I have a video of me beating a Silverado 5.3 from 2 stop lights. Google F165 vs and watch me spank some a$$.
I'm in my late twenties, I'm not married and I don't have any kids yet I still find this minivan attractive. It's reliable and practical, it can be a great camper van. Am I weird to like this at this age?
Mikael Borhzka nooo way bro it’s what you like :), I’m glad that Toyota keep a V6 in this van😃, but it’s kinda how that I’m only 19 but I’ve always loved the LS400 from Lexus😄
You not the only one. I’m 24, not married, don’t have kids yet and I do love this minivan. I rather get this over luxury car.
Why? This van is super comfortable, smooth on road or highway, good MPG, massive cargo area that you can easily fit a big fridge and the acceleration is great for minivan.
@@juicybullfrog I agree, this van can be your second home.
Miguel Mari Quijano-Aligno My mom bought 2007 Sienna in 2012 with 100K miles. I can tell you that acceleration is insane.
Completely agree, back in my late teens when I was surfing a lot I drooled over some of the vans on shore near the lineup. For camping nothing beats the Chrysler/Dodge vans though with the stow and go seats that make a nice flat floor, too bad about the reliability though.
"all the crap that comes with married life" this guys gets it lol
Michael Powell tell me about it. trading my e92 for something bigger 😢
Says the RUclips reviewer who sword fights and can’t have a family of his own.
LOL. I think the origins of van life.. Dad grabs mini-van, drives off and never comes back.
Nazimi Snake zx
"The crap that comes associated with married life" 🤣🤣..words of wisdom Sofyan...
It just rolls right off the tongue, too. LOL
@@romeomk510 That's what she said.
once you get over "the loss of the man card" or "small penis syndrome", it all comes back when you realize how fucking functional the thing is. That v6 hauls ass for being a giant bus. It's expensive for a van but then again, everything is. Totally worth it on the used market.
There's always the lamborghini urus and porsche macan for a family car. lol
@@sunnydeng9263 do what you want. You will anyways.
My wife and I have a 2015 Toyota Sienna and honestly it’s so useful that I can’t complain that I’m driving a minivan everywhere lol
Keep telling urself that lol
Mel V nice lol
got one too. no fucks to give, because people get out of my way. it's awesome. leave the negative comments to the truck driving pavement princesses.
Mel V Please shut the fuck up. You’ve probably never driven a mini van before.
It may not be the best looking , but guarantee it will outlast all of the competition. 😉
The Odyssey is still the best looking among minivans to me. It has that interesting styling (that yet works) which makes it's design stand out from the crowd. The Sienna is still handsome (heck it does look pretty good in the SE trim at least), but it just looks like a regular minivan. Not that it's ugly... but just nothing special.
Toyota might amp up the swag with the next generation of its "swagger wagon" hopefully coming ASAP. When it comes to reliability however, Toyota still has you covered of course (as usual).
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!
@Jays Gameplay/cat videos I can see that (will have to experience that soon if I can believe that).. but I was talking about in terms of design here.
@@CommandoMaster lol
Typo.....I > It
I don't get the obsession with crossovers, when this gem of a ride can haul so much more cargo, and drive in sweet harmony.
I don't get either. Same with the hate for Stationwagons. I prefer both. Crossovers can go on a downhill spiral.
I don't get it either. A 7 passenger crossover doesn't make any sense, no passenger room, no cargo room. A minivan is the way to go.
I know mini vans have a bad rep, but if you just blur out everyone's opinion it is a great vehicle even for a single person. I work night shifts at a hospital, with meetings during the day. I take naps in my car so I don't have to drive home twice. That cargo space in the back looks like first class nap time to me!
We bought our SE sienna before we found out we were having our first. We needed the practicality and was the only nice looking van out there. Coming from a Honda guy, and my parents have a Odyssey Touring, we haven't looked back at all. It's too bad the majority of people are too "proud" to drive a van
21:00 I love how u straight up smoked that cx5 😂😂
😂😂😂
We have had our 2018 XLE Sienna for over a year now, and love it. We had to have it modified for a wheelchair user (my son) before delivery. That gave it the power kneel feature, which raises the whole van about 10" higher than normal. Now it looks like a massive SUV. It drives beautifully. It is so much more secure and solid than the 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan that we had for 16 years (also modified for wheelchair). You really feel that you are driving a SUV, and with the almost 300 hp, it has all the power you need. Toyota's safety features are a bonus, and should be mandatory on all vehicles.
We had our 2023 XSE Sienna
Imagine if the Previa continued on
Tech Defender I think they still have it but it’s not sold in the US anymore because of decreased minivan sales
Tech Defender it’s called the Estima in Asia. It’s smaller than Sienna in every dimension.
The Previa was special, even for a minivan...
...and that's why I fucking loved it.
@@thecriticalthinkeroutsidet4947 especially the supercharged midengine first gen Previa
They do still make them, just not selling them here in North America :(
0:08 the honesty 👍
I love his honesty “crap out of married life” lol
Miguel Mari Quijano-Aligno 100% true. I don’t want to be married I love being alone and that’s how I thrive ..
@Miguel Mari Quijano-Aligno shit I'm getting married in 10 days
Miguel Rodriguez Damn congrats but also good luck.
We own a 2015 SE. A nice car, very practical. We just changed tires to Kumho Crugen Premiums. The power is nice, handling is excellent, and mpg is tolerable, if driven moderately. Thanks.
We own a 2023 XSE. A nice car
I don’t care about the tech, we had a Honda Odyssey and at 120k miles had to replace the alternator and then a few months later the transmission went. So I’d choose the sienna over any other.
Redline Reviews. Good for you, for pointing out that the engine has both Direct and Multi-Port injection, eliminating Direct Injections intake valve carbon build up problems.
Great review. I drove the 2018/2019 odyssey, Sienna, and pacifica and just love the Pacifica and how it drives and interior layout and controls. No comparison as you should expect since the Pacifica is a newer design. We purchased the Pacifica and have had it for two months now and have no complaints.
I've always liked the styling of the SE trimmed Sienna's since it was introduced. Definitely would take this with AWD over an SUV any day. Way more useful IMO.
Lol Sofyan out here straight roasting people with families.
Love my sienna! Old school is actually a plus for me.
*yes i love taking my sports minivan to the track*
Hit that sport mode button and vrooom vroom! Ferrari what? :D
@@edwink1467 skrrrtt!!
Wanna know something funny? Only the outer part of that tail light is LED, the interior part (located on the hatch) is an incandescent bulb channeled through those little holes to make it look LED lol
And anybody who owns a sienna knows it's a pain in the ass to take the bulb out if it breaks lol. But that's why I put leds in our gen 2 sienna!
$2 for incandescent bulb vs $500 for LED
Lol Sofyan I appreciate the effort on the intro, but there’s only so much you can do to make the cargo room and folded seats of a minivan sexy. Nice try though bro.
When my mother in law came to visit she rented a Sienna Limited. I was actually blown away by the level of refinement, technology, and space. We used it to haul some 4’x8’ tables and it swallowed them just fine. The Sienna also doesn’t rattle as much as the Odyssey does. The Odyssey’s cargo area is annoyingly loud. Overall, the Sienna is old, but thanks to a new V6 and transmission and standard autonomous safety features, it’s not outdated. If I was shopping for a minivan, a loaded Limited with AWD would beat all the competition.
I watched the swagger wagon video commercial way to many times when they refreshed it back in 2015
One thing to note about the Sienna's panoramic roof, is that the rear sunroof opens as well as the front. I don't know of many other cars that offer that feature
Best car ever, only a dumb can buy SUV, long lasting, practical and an awsome car for road trip.
This review came at the perfect time as I'm looking to get one for the wife. Between this and the Odyssey but I like how the toyota doesn't have auto start stop and an actual gear lever.
All the Toyota Corolla taxis in my area all have led headlights. If they put them on “base” Corollas then they should incorporate them in all their products
Actually, I want a Sienna more than I want a SUV...and I not even married!!! lol
Not trying too hard, that van is hard. As a father and husband, I love our Toyota Sienna
Honda odyssey has bad transmissions. Stick with sienna, trust me
Raw Techonology 05-07 had bad transmissions
Agreed
thanks for the heads up!
If the Honda van came with stick shift it would be reliable the automatics are garbage even now in 2019 people are complaining.
I have the 2014 model and i really like it. i miss driving manual but may have a weekend car in the future. this van is still fun and perfect for a family.
Hoping for the next generation Sienna to come out soon. While this generation is still quite competitive (heck, the only AWD minivan?) and has aged well, I still think it's getting quite old..
..I mean, Toyota gave us latest redesigns like the new Avalon that was almost perfect, the new RAV4 that was interesting, the new Camry that was impressive, and the new Corolla (both sedan and hatchback) that was surprising.. heck so far even the new Supra that seems badass... Toyota should bless the "swagger wagon" to amp up its swag within this segment.
Responding to the insane SUV craze though: Even compared to the largest SUVs on sale, minivans are still more family-friendly than any SUV you can think of... :3
It's not the only awd anymore.
I'mJustFarhan My mans you are fucking everywhere.
Seriously though I do agree. Toyota makes facelifts at the WORST times. Now we might be expecting a redesign in 2022
@@saltie.7783 ...do I know you?
But yeah, why not. I'm an independent personal car critic and enthusiast after all. lol
@@alexklein455 So which else minivan has AWD nowadays?
@@lukluk1914 the Chrysler Pacifica.
Wow, this van looks great! Especially in that color and SE trim! Awesome review!
I’m thinking of buying the one of these to live in on my cross country road trip adventure.
I'd buy this as an extra car, for IKEA, Lowes or when family is in town. I'm a bachelor but wouldn't have a problem with this
Over styled? Trying to hard? Come on man. The kit makes this look better than all other minivans out there.
I'm a teenager... I'll soon get my first car... Is it weird that I like minivans? They r so practical.... I have driven my mom's Odyssey
If you're a male get your testosterone levels checked, quickly!
“You’ll probably never touch this”
You’re right I never touch my dashboard.
"You'll probably never touch this"
That's what she said.
Back in the day when the world (and I) were young and dinosaurs roamed the highways, I owned a 1989 Mazda MPV minivan with AWD. It was a great van and its AWD once got me out of a ditch in deep snow on a logging road in the Cascade mountains. Might have saved my life, in fact. As I understand it, the Sienna is the only minivan to offer AWD and with a 300 hp engine it looks like a very good option, especially in harsh winter conditions and even in the messy winters we see in the Pacific Northwest. Would probably have avoided the wheel spin demonstrated in the review, in fact. Though I think the Odyssey is an overall superior choice, the AWD would be a major plus for me if I were in the market for a minivan.
I'm always a fan of the third generation Sienna with it's boxy shape. But the fourth generation Sienna takes a whole new level with it's more sleeker design.
your review on the sienna is very bias,theres nothing wrong with the sienna except that it doesn't come supercharged or a turbo other then that its a great/awesome vehicle.
ANGEL YOUNG he prefers sports car, fast and faster...
"Toyota was the first to introduce roll down windows in a minivan."
Somewhere, a 2nd generation Mazda MPV engineer just sighed... :P
Great review per usual!
All new cars should be mandated to have LED headlights....just how a backup camera became mandated...halogen gotta go...
I'm not a fan of government mandates, but I do agree here. Good headlights are not something that should be cheaped out on
Michael Powell what I find sad is that for a base model Mercedes, they don’t come standard with LED but the new Corolla dies
Bi-xenon throw a better light and color than LED.....
Only if you can replace the Led's in the headlight easily, because right now on just about every new car with Led headlights the Led's are not replaceable.... So you have to replace the whole dam headlight to fix it! Oem Led headlights are very expensive usually $600-1000+ each side..........
Hell no, it’s annoying going down the street getting blinded my all these new headlights
The Lexus of the minivans would def be Toyota Alphard and Vellfire
I wish Toyota would bring them to the States. They are hugely popular all over Asia.
Carlton C we don't get those here, but if Lexus made a minivan, it would be a Sienna AWD Limited in Pearl white. It's a near perfect vehicle for the family and does quite well in the snow.
@@Newzchspy never been into a Sienna before since we didn't get it in Asia, but I've been riding the 2017 Alphard for almost a year. I would say if Lexus make a luxury MPV, it would most probably a Toyota Alphard Executive Lounge V6 AWD in Pearl White. Might not have the length of the Sienna, but it's plenty spacious for 6.
Carlton C wish we got it here. Unfortunately, minivans here are on their way out and sales have been dropping the past 10 years. Anyone who has kids or a large family understands the utility. Neither Ford nor GM makes one. The Pacifica has done well. The Sienna is getting long in the tooth. The Odyssey makeover is two years old now and Kia has a decent unit. I just don't see much of a future for them with the popularity of the CUV segment ( think CRV, NX300 , RAV4 etc) . I am still waiting for the 2020 Gen IV Sienna that's been long promised (TGNA based). Long live Iacocco's "minivan."
Believe it or not though, Lexus actually planned rumours to bring a minivan in its lineup. (I'm sure about a month ago)
I know I would enjoy the current Honda Odyssey over the current Sienna. But, something to consider, the Sienna has a timing chain while the Odyssey has a timing belt that has to be replaced every hundred K. The Honda Odyssey transmissions rarely lasts past 200k, while with the Sienna, you can possibly get 250 to 300k out of your original transmission. The lower trim levels of the Odyssey use the same 9 speed transmission that is in the Chrysler Pacifica which is more reliable than a genuine Honda Odyssey transmission. The upper trim level of he Honda Odyssey comes with a 10-speed genuine Honda transmission that drives better but may have the poor reliability that has plagued Honda Odyssey transmissions in he past. My heart wants the Odyssey but my desire for reliability with no timing belt replacements make me want the Sienna over the Odyssey, the Pacifica, and the Caravan.
These don’t actually have a Sport mode. It seems to confuse people because the S on the shifter doesn’t actually do anything but lets you set the top gear. It doesn’t change anything else about how the vehicle behaves.
One thing that has always impressed me about minivans is how huge they are inside. Nothing else can I camp in. This van definitely looks outdated. Although all those big crossovers also have the option for all the biggest amenities, just not quite as cavernous.
I have a 2018 Toyota Sienna XLE premium. I want to take it to the next level
Finally. Haven’t reviewed this in forever.
The audio system in the 2018 Siennas (in this Sienna) is the Entune 3.0. That, along with a slight styling, was the main update in 2018.
Really surprised that Toyota hasn't upgraded the platform. Remembered that I rented a then brand new 2011LE v6 8 seater in late 2010 for a 2 week, 1500 mile family road trip from San Francisco, Anaheim, Grand Canyon and Vegas.
Was quite impressed how it tackled the curves at Yosemite and curvier sections of Pacific Coast Highway 1. Nothing beats the convenience, load and people capacity and comfort of a minivan for a family road trip.
Didn't like the really cheap looking interior though...seems like the later refresh didn't improve on it much.
Sienna is the most useful vehicle in my family (yes, I own a 2007 XLE) and it is like a dream driving long distances with the whole family and the craps that associated with married life... I only wish the price of the mini-van won't creeps up to $50,000.00
That is a sexy mini van. Ain’t gonna lie.
lol, it still looks like my bought new 2004 Toyota Sienna minivan when my kids were young. Glad I don't have to drive that or a suv anymore, it's Corvette time now!
Toyota really need to up their minivan game if they are serious about keeping the market. The competition is already a whole generation ahead. Only redeeming feature is the reclining captain seats in the Limited trims.
You know when it comes to family vans Soy knows his options.
Best minivan gonna outlast the others and ofc he gotta b hard on Toyota vehicles if it was a Honda different story
Anderson Rodriguez you don't know if it's going to outlast the other vehicles unless you buy every single minivan that is being produced
Trenton_ A just facts statistics don’t lie is the truth
Siennas are so reliable, everyone knows that
The Kia is actually more reliable than the Sienna, and ranks #1 in minivan reliability.
Wish they made minivans like this when i was growing up
It actually came out in May 2010 as an 11 model . The engine on all the Sienna's is the same V6, the SE is no different than the LE or XLE. Oh, and big correction: It was called the Swagger Wagon in its ads......@01:40
Newzchspy 2010.5 I guess
MUSTASHEO lll I had one and it was Gen 3, SE and got it on the day before Memorial Day. One of my fav vehicles of all time. Had a new one every two years after that. Wife loves it, but hates the minivan identity. Have to let her out up the street ;)
Good engine for sure. Good power and efficiency combination for 6 cylinders, muscular sounding.
The 2018-19 Odyssey is a better looking min-van but, my next min-van will most likely be a Sienna since it has a timing chain instead of a timing belt. The Sienna also has a transmission that lasts forever while the Odyssey lacks a hardy transmission.
@Redline Reviews actually the first minivan to offer second row roll down windows in sliding doors was the 2000 Mazda MPV
0:33... sounds like he says Larfly it’s still the same vehicle🤣
Yup!
Closing the doors on some Toyotas reminds me of opening a can of tuna.
Bought a 2017 xle premium for the wife
And turn the traction control off and put it in manual mode and it'll burn the tires through 1st and 2nd gear. Lol its definitely not slow
I am a painting contractor and I paint out of one of these. I buy a vehicle not for WHAT I AM but WHAT I DO. I had a 2011 SE but did not like all the black on the interior they have had since 2015. I upgraded to a 2018 Limited just because of the dash.
When they refreshed this generation I felt it made the front look older than the pre refresh.
Sofyan the type of guy to rev a minivan
when its engine is cold lmao
Good review Sofyan always covered every detail
The Mazda MPV was the first minivan to introduce roll down windows on the sliding doors 🤷🏽♂️
idbreezy04 those were swing-out doors on the MPV.
My family owns a toyota sienna(2006, top trip with leather and heated seats etc) and Im convinced its immortal, Ive hit deer with it and my mother has hit tree and walls with it and my sister got T boned in it and the only thing that has happened is SEVERAL dents, and the heater in the passenger vents failed but so far only issue
One thing I love about Toyota - they don't update parts (line the steering wheel and its switchgear) just to make it look more modern or sporty. If something works well, they just keep using it.
This can make the car look a bit dated, but it has some major benefits. If a piece of equipment has proven itself to be functional and reliable, keeping it means it will contribute to the overall functionality and reliability of the car.
Also, if you have ever driven a Toyota and get into a new one, you will be instantly familiar with the way things work - and if you are new to Toyota, you don't have to have an engineering degree to figure it out.
Lastly, by using the same parts for years, Toyota can keep costs lower. Simplicity and a conservative approach to change, also helps Toyotas remain drive-able years after other cars have fallen apart.
Problem with the SE has always been its MSRP. Not many who favor a minivan is willing to pay $38k+, even if it is sporty looking. Good review as usual tho, bro.
I love your personality and performance
If it was a Mazda Van / Honda Van with 300hp he would be praising it. Gotta love bias automotive reviewers
This Sienna is definitely due for a next gen but this generation to me is great looking especially in this sporty trim. Toyota make a sporty cool looking van and he complains about the looks.. make it look normal they complain it’s boring.. the fuck. What puzzles me is the can actually looks cool.
My thoughts exactly lol. Love his reviews but this was a bit painful. We have a 2017 SE and bought it over the competition. The interior is a bit dated, but the engine/transmission, exterior design, and deptite what this review says the handling was far superior to the Odyssey. My parents have a 2016 Odyssey Touring, so we had extensive time with it behind the wheel.
SilverstoneGC The interior being “dated” is natural its has aged very well and this is very useful and ergonomic. That should be his conclusion not “dated”. This Seinna is the only sport minded van in its class you think he would give it credit for that but he seems to bash it. Good on Toyota for offering a sport option and in this sport trim to me it’s the best looking van hands down. Sporty looks and 300hp what’s not to like? But these journalists love to nit pick when it comes to Toyota while on the other Spectrum of things OVER praising other brands.
Agreed! I'll be honest im lowering it with a nice set of wheels this summer. It looks awesome. I don't hate the interior by any means. Has the easiest access 3rd row, easiest fold down seats, and I find the second row comfortable and wouldn't trade that for stow and go. My only complaint is for the price of the SE premium, I want a better stereo. The speakers are terrible. Other then that I wouldn't change a thing
And I think they are still doing something right. In my city, you see a tons of SE Siennas around. Usually driven by younger families. Older generations seem to opt for the LE/XLE/LIMITED. I think Toyota appealed 100% to the demographic they targeted with the SE
This guy isn't normal man i swear, Even on Toyota reviews he's defending Toyota lol, Here let me try.
If this was a 2017 Odyssey video you'd be the first one crying about how it's been the same body since 2011 and the sienna has 17hp more LOL, Toyota goes 2011 to 2019 (There won't be a new generation for 2019, Not after only 1 year of a facelift) and you defend it, Gotta love bias youtube comments.
See what i did there lol.
this thing drop on rims looks awsome
Really enjoying your videos (and I'm not even a cars guy)!
Toyota sienna sales haven't decreased in flushing ny there's about 17 of them parked on my block alone XD
why i am I single person and considering buying a minivan? Dunno but I think I will like owning one. i feel like the Highland looks like a Minivan w/ the wrong doors attached, so I might as well just get a minivan and ahave all the room and comfy 3rd row seats that it has to offer before I get a Highlander
Great review as always Believe It or Not people are modding minivans it has become a thing in Florida where I'm at Odyssey and Sienna slamming them on the ground air ride Volk racing rims SSR it's amazing roof racks and Stereos to make ego death
Oh they refreshed it looks very good
Such an overall professional, even elegant, vehicle journalist/reviewer, but you honestly kill it for me everytime you use the word, "crap" or "crap ton" as descriptive terms. It sounds as if you're struggling for a term to articulate your opinion but failing to recall one, so you end up with "crap." It's just a little weird because your overall presentation is actually really prestigious by comparison to most reviewers. To me it's no different than if I were to hear a news anchor use the term "crap ton" when announcing Breaking news. Lol! Just my observation. I still LOVE your reviews, so please keep up the great work!
I believe the Mazda MPV has the distinction of having the roll down window first.
2018 Toyota Sienna SE, 7,170 miles
even the positives wher negatives for this guy
I thought it was the Mazda MPV that first introduced the windows rolling down on the sliding doors!
51st I am improving. Like always you nailed it Sofyan. Keep it up
Sofyan- I'm afraid Toyota was not tbe first to introduce roll-down windows on the rear-doors of a van. The 1995 Isuzu Oasis/Honda Odyssey did indeed have roll-down windows.
Toyota should stop being cheap and boost up their interiors for once. I get its supposed to be an affordable brand, but even Hyundai has better features and interiors
sevan grigoryan what Toyota needs a redesign? Besides for this and the sequoia and definitely the tundra? New Toyota’s like the Camry/corolla are incredible
Minivans Interiors isn't made for luxury propurse, so you kinda expects that minivans doesn't have that good of materials.
I also agree that it is time for a full redesign to keep up with the other models.
Josef Griveas the Corolla interior is shit , and Camry over styled and starting to look old inside in some trims
Also, the 2021 Sienna will be the "Lexus of Minivans"
At 300hp, this SIenna minivan can have better power to weight ratio, aerodynamics, fuel economy, cargo capacity, and lower center of gravity than most SUVs.
Why do so many cars these days have the Hideous door handles like the ones on this Siena? They are a blight and a carbuncle on the side of so many vehicles. The way to do it is the way the Range Rover Velar does it, or the Aston Martin DB9. Even my old 1988 Honda Accord that I had when I was a kid had beautifully flush door handles.
What are your thoughts regarding this versus the Honda Odyssey?
This better u can get it with awd
The Odyssey is one nice van I must say! I would drive it only if it was the touring trim with the upgraded wheel package!
Jays Gameplay/cat videos u high? The new 10 speed from Honda is one the best automatic transmissions in the country.
@Jays Gameplay/cat videos You know Scotty Kilmer, right? :D
@@superbros1690 That's what she said.
The next gen Sienna, which will be in the 2021MY will be wider, longer, better fuel ecomony. The next gen Sienna might get a hybrid version. The 2021 Toyota Sienna might get paddle shifters.
Actually, the Mazda MPV was the first minivan to have row down second row window.
My 2016 F150 2wd 2.7 ecoboost weigh 4740 lbs.
I have the exact same van it is identical except I have the intune 3.0 premium I was disappointed to finally receive our van An find out it did not come with the remote start I’m really hopping some day there will be an update to add this option
Ah, the slow lingering death of the minivan. Every time I see a minivan review I hear the reviewer note how much more practical the vehicle is than a comparable SUV/CUV. Yet the message seems to be largely ignored by most consumers. What's the deal?
Is it because male consumers have lost their taste for them? Not likely. "Real men" never took to minivans. The "cab forward" design didn't appeal to males who want a long, long hood stretching out before them. It suggests a BIG powerful and "potent" engine. Even better if it has a protruding grill (Lookin' at you CX-9) that makes the point even more obvious. From the beginning minivans acquired the reputation (and the stigma) of being "mom-mobiles." And when CUV's came along to replace a "truck" feel with the driving dynamics of a car, it was the best of both worlds for men who never took their vehicles off-road but wanted them to feel "tough."
No, the declining popularity of minivans stems from the fact that females (who have a major voice in the purchase of "family" vehicles) increasingly rejected them. How come? First, it's difficult to avoid the fact that younger generations of women increasingly reject the stigma of being "just a housewife" and accurate or fair or not, minivans project that vibe. But that's not all.
Females may not find the same appeal as males in a massive hood in front of the driver but it does suggest strength and security in the event of an accident. And safety, real or perceived, is especially important to female drivers. Further, as highways filled with SUV's/CUV's all drivers, but especially women, feel overmatched in terms of visibility from a driver's seat. A "command" (i.e. taller) driving position gives them a better chance to see what's going on around them. Of course it's a vicious circle with more bigger and taller vehicles making the problem worse. But like nuclear deterrence individual purchasers may see no alternative.
Minivans still appeal to those with large families to haul around, especially if extended family trips (or a family with multiple hockey players) are a priority. But large families are a smaller and smaller portion of the population (except perhaps in Utah.) Bottom line is that the few manufacturers who offer minivans (Toyota, Honda, Chrysler, and Kia) seem to be fighting a long term losing battle.
The old Sienna looked so much better...
Who will put a 2.0 turbo in a minivan first?
...Honda maybe with the Odyssey's refresh?
Definitely not toyota lol
@@thecriticalthinkeroutsidet4947 That's what I was thinking too.
I would not have a problem with it. I drive a 2016 F165. (F150 with the 2.7 ecoboost) I have a video of me beating a Silverado 5.3 from 2 stop lights. Google F165 vs and watch me spank some a$$.
My old 2000 Camry had that same cruise control stalk...let it go Toyota!!! Even though it worked ok...