Why Aren't You Guys Buying This Instead of a Crossover? 2019 Toyota Sienna Review
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) Nathan reviews the 2019 Toyota Sienna AWD to explain why minivans are better than crossovers in many ways.
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My minivan has been the most unexpectedly awesome and handy vehicle I have ever hoped for.
I have hauled kids, sheetrock, appliances, huge pots of plants, and banged my wife in "The Dad Van."
All with cheap insurance and cheap maintenance schedules.
You dog ;)
Did the shocks hold up?
+1 for banging the wife in the Dad Van
If this van’s rockin, don’t come a knockin
@@spiketaterman5181 hahahahahah
When I graduated high school, I went in 50/50 with my parents on a new car for college. From the day I got my license, I'd always wanted to get a pickup truck. My dad was the sales manager at a dealership and because I took my senior year less than seriously, he was being cheeky and brought home a very gently used 05 Dodge Caravan with 5,000 miles on the clock one day and said that would be the vehicle I would get. I drove it around and actually really liked it; it had a leather interior, stow n go seats, power doors and liftgate... all the trimmings. He asked me to drive him back to the dealership so he could get his car so I did and there sat an 04 Nissan Frontier extended cab, also with very low mileage. It was what I'd wanted all along. It was that funky teal color, it had the V6, Desert Runner package... Beautiful truck.
That night, I debated whether I wanted the truck or the van. I decided to counter-troll my dad and told him I wanted the van. My parents were shocked. So, I got it and drove it for the next few years of college. It was the most damned fun of any vehicle I ever owned! It was perfect for the time. I had a 16-hour drive to school and it was super smooth and comfortable for the trip. I would cram in 10 friends at a time and go out on adventures. One night I went camping and a gigantic storm blew in, and we had a leaky tent. Every time the wind blew, the tent would double over and soak me, so I said screw this and folded down all the seats in the back and slept warm and dry in the van. Did I mention I also had a MASSIVE stereo? It was loud enough to scare old women.
It was the perfect vehicle for the time. I only ended up selling it because gas crept over $4 a gallon at the time and it got 16mpg. As a broke college student, it was constantly on E. I replaced it with a Focus, but I sure do miss that van. People thought I was weird for picking that over a truck, but I have no regrets. Ten years have passed and I have a kiddo of my own now. With how nice vans are nowadays, it makes me consider getting another one. And I would happily, shamelessly rock another one.
The mid 2000s Caravan was actually crisp and good looking. Minivans since then keep getting uglier fatter mushier. Upside: when you are inside you don't have to look at it.
This story made my day
I loved your story. It brought back memories of being young and having fun with friends. You probably wouldn't have had half the fun or great memories if you had bought the truck.
In the 1970's we used vans to have sex in. Lots of room to roll around.
Jordan Pence I am in that position now I’m 24 and want to trade in my Tucson crossover for a suv infinity w or Hyundai palisade or a van. If I pick a van idk which to pick. A lot of people says go for the sienna for reliability the caravan looks great doesn’t look like a van but reliability idk because it’s a dodge. Anyway I’m usually in the car myself and sometimes have more people in rarely. I just don’t know to get a van since it’s soccer mom cars as people say it just get a suv lol
Bought a Sienna three weeks ago to replace a Crossover... best decision ever. The crossover was a stupid decision on our part and the mini-van is much more practical for day to day use for our family of five. The Sienna by far is an amazing vehicle for people with families looking to be practical. Plus, Toyota safety sense is awesome.
IMO, SUVs these days don't look much more different than a van lol... nothing cool about them as the stigma is catching up as family vehicles.
Get a van if you want something functional. If you want to look cool, wast your money, then get your SUV or crossover...
Fuel economy is about 24 MPG combined from our experience so far for city and highway on the front wheel drive only model. These vans have a reputation of lasting a long time... pick your poison, but vanity isn't mine. I'll stick to functionality for something that my family and I have to spend a significant amount of time in.
Pun on vanity
Mike C Touché!
When my Mom had a 2011 Sienna (went to 2017 Rav4), it was a great car!
But my Dad had a Ford Explorer (2013 mabye?), he didn't like it that much.
Deciding on van or SUV, got a M3...best decision ever
@@LuckyDuckie115 We had a 328 and it was a clown car with all four of us in it. You had move the seats forward to fit the car seats. No room between the seats or rear footwells for the diaper bag so it had to go in the front passenger footwell. The truck was filled with strollers and not much room for anything else. We looked at a crossover but the van was so much better and we no longer go shopping and say "We will have to get it another time, we don't have room for that."
I have a 2005 Sienna AWD that I use primarily as my work vehicle. I’m a woodworker and I constantly (and easily!) haul 4x8 sheets of plywood stacked flat with no issues or headache. More often than not I have people stopping and watching me slide sheet after sheet of 3/4 ply into my van at the hardware stores. I also deliver very large pieces of heavy furniture that I make for my clients. Due to its lower-than-a-truck ride height, it’s really nice sliding big pieces in and out. On the weekends we take it camping and comfortably sleep in it with a queen sized blow-up mattress, pop the seats back in and haul a load of friends around on wine tasting excursions and pub crawls. I even pack it full of construction debris to haul to the dump. Considering I live in WA State where we get our fare share of rain, I never have to worry about my materials getting wet or cold. Now, put ALL of these together along with 24 mpg, cruise control, AWD, a really nice factory sound system, a ton of creature comfort‘s, a crazy tight turning radius (better than my wife’s compact sedan) and a very comfortable ride quality, I have yet to feel the need for a full-size, gas sucking, thief bate, stripped model commercial van. Not to say there isn’t a need for those types of rigs, but my MANivan has given me all I need and then some 👍🏻
Have you had any trouble with the loads? The payload is only 1100lbs. I replaced my 2014s rear shocks at 60,000 miles because I noticed it floating when we had 4 adults, 2 kids and luggage in it. I calculated it up (well, I estimated peoples weights) but I figured we were very close to max load. Not a vehicle you can pack with 7-8 adults.
tomsriv
Interesting. I’ve never actually had any problems with mine. I definitely have had mine fully loaded on more than a handful of occasions. Is yours the all wheel drive as well?
Isaac Cowles no, it is FWD Limited. Maybe the extra weight in the limited contributes to the lower payload. I have a friend who has a Mercedes Metris. A horrible minivan, but it has a payload rating of over 2000lbs. I can see it was built for a different purpose.
tomsriv sure it is. I've hauled my whole family of 7 to FL many times and while full of luggage. No wallowing nor sway. SE model. Regularly got 25 mpg too on regular fuel. Don't believe read suspension has ever been an issue on these vans.
Cool
I don't have a family but I want a minivan. Today's minivans are really nice!!
Buy it then do Uber XL on the side.
Dan Vasse Get one! You won’t regret it and your friends will love it. It’s a great party vehicle, too. 💯 💯
Go for Toyota sienna, you won't regret.
Van is op
Honda Odyssey
Been sayin it for the last couple years. Minivans are like roomy ass, giant luxury cars that'll carry 7 people or a ton of gear with full cabin roof AC AND they fly right under the radar.
Great, unless you need more than the 5" of clearance.
Enthused amen brother. BMW M3 at 80 mph, gets pulled over and cited. Sienna at 80 mph. No one even notices!!
@@glennglenn1765
Personally never had that problem in my M3 or Minivan 😉
@@gorkyd7912 90% of people with crossovers and suvs never take it off the payment so this is a non issue.
@@bryanveliz1978 90% of people with seat belts and airbags never use them, so crash survival is a non-issue.
As an owner of a '17 Sienna SE, I can tell you they are way better and bigger than any SUV out there, and we tried them all first. The Sienna is so comfortable on long drives and has plenty of power to even beat those ricer kids on the street with:) I don't know why people hate on the Minivan so much when they are so damn good!!
We looked at the Highlander. With the 3rd tow up there is no room back there. Deal breaker. This thing is still decent.
Acc0rd79
So what kind of mileage you get from yours? Is epa close to right?
David Schmidt I'd get about 20 mpg city and 24-26 highway and this is not babying it.
My self and brother are starting up a van club called VandALized minis V.C lol!!!! Vans started the custom scene !!! We are both die are custom people that customized any thing we own. I currently own a 02 seianna, and once we purchase a new seianna this one is going under construction !!!! I cannot wait !!!
+Brian Whittle sounds interesting man! I own an ‘00 Le! 🤔 what do you got in the works?
My wife has a 2000 sienna xle, zero issues, normal wear and tear, a little rust, but the darn thing runs great and does great on trips. And yes it only has the 3.0, but it still runs strong.
Bruno DeFrancesco don't sell it like we did. We had a 1999 sienna and thing ran like a top. Plus the old toyota 4 speed automatics were bulletproof and the motor is bulletproof as long as you do oil changes on time. We sold it because the flexplate teeth broke and we went through a few starters. Remove the 2nd and third row and that van flies!
I LOVE my Sienna SE and I don’t have kids! It also pulls my small airstream, totes my 12’ paddle boards like a boss and fits 3 large custom dog crates!
My wife's Sienna has been nothing but reliable since 2005. We've hauled hardwood flooring, furniture ect. You can fit a lot of large items in those cavernous bad boys. And for long trips it is a very comfortable ride.
We have a 2005, it was decent. Other then the driver's door clunking sound. It spent most of its life with waaaayyy above payload rating. We ran through brakes like crazy, and the steering was just going out. Considering it has 300k km, mostly fully loaded... Pretty darn good
ubangiestomp totally agree, I have 2005 Sienna too and it has more comfortable ride than my SUVs (2). The Sienna reliability is excellent even at 281K miles still runs like it has only 100K miles.
Most other brands have hard times going past 200K. I know that because I have been owning many different brands over 43 years if driving.
We had an 06 that lasted over 200k!
Most Toyotas are pretty reliable.
It is getting old in design but the functionality of a minivan is practical af
Dude! On the third row, all you gotta do is pull the large handle on the seat, and everything folds down. One step.
I drive a 2016 TRD Tacoma. My wife, a 2004 sienna. Love our van. My kids are grown and I'd buy another just for the versatility.
Manny Motta Sienna are awesome. Even for 2004 they are quite futuristic. Very comfortable rides too. Keep it.
ima be honest with nya 20 mpg com bined.... WHAT that worse than my moms v6 mustang which is mean to be a track car... wtf we get 23 mpg combined in that b ish
@@ChillingCap Your mom's mustang weights less with lower drag coefficient and a V6 mustang is not a track car, it's a mommy mobile. Hence why your mother owns it.
Thirteen years ago my wife and I was looking to buy an SUV (that's what they used to call it back then), we thought a minivan would make us look like parents - and it wouldn't be a cool thing to feel like parents driving around in a minivan. When we decided to test-drive a Honda Odyssey, it just blew the SUV away. The minivan offered so much more that an SUV didn't. Today we still have the Odyssey and I would buy it (or a Sienna) again just for its benefits.
ChillingCap8365 The thing is toyota has 20 gallons of fuel tank while mustang has under 16 gallons, multiply mpg with tank size and sienna has a better fuel lasting!!
We have one and love it. Plenty of room, good gas mileage, great power and very reliable.
Minivans get it done. I can tow, I can haul kids, and I can camp.
Ps: mine has 12 cup holders.
I drive a 1997 Toyota Previa AWD Supercharged. I’m close to 250,000 miles and I have been on countless trips, lived in it for 6 months, off-roaded, hauled stuff... the damn thing is unstoppable. Going for 500,000 miles!
I'll tell you what the minivan segment needs is something like the 1990's Mitsubishi Delica 4WD. Those things look cool despite them being a van body, high ground clearence, looks capable from the factory. Plus you had all kinds of cool stuff like brush guards, knobby tires, big mud flaps, snorkels to make them even look more the business. Come out with a minivan like that today with actual trail capable 4wd(ie base it on the Grand Cherokee or something) and the right styling, people will love it.
the problem is that vans like those in Japan are already expensive asf
and the delica is small too
but id buy one in a heartbeat if they sold here
they do still sell lifted Delicas in Japan, but they now use a simpler AWD system vs the full transfer case 4wd they used on them in the 90s
@@ShaiyanHossain Minivans in the USA can be expensive af too. A fully optioned Odyssey, Sienna or Chrysler Pacifica is 45-50k!!
I remember our Dodge Caravan when I was a kid 30 years ago. My dad racked up over 300,000 Mile's on that thing before he traded it in. Original engine and trans. too.
My Grand ma had one too. She loved that thing and bought for it all her grand kids. Those were good cars
Nils Johansson good luck breaking 100,000 miles in a new dodge
My dad's in his 4th dodge caravan and literally the only one that had any troubles at 100k was the first one, a 1989 with the 3.0l mitsu v6, 2nd one was 200k(1990 3.3l Chrysler) 3rd one was over 300k (96 3.3l) 4th one is an 08?09? Which I told him he probably should've gotten a 2011+ but other than being the thirsty 3.8l it's been worry-free. A recent lightly-used Grand Caravan w/the pentastar is a STEAL for what you get, and a base new Pacifica just gets that much better(though I'd probably Errr to the older 6sp auto on the caravan for longevity)
Growing up, my family had sedans. I was always jealous of families that had minivans. I will make sure my future family has a minivan.
Minivans are great. Mine is a 2003. My kids grew up in in and now that they're grown i have the seats removed and use it like a truck. I've hauled furniture, lumber, brick, appliances, etc. And unlike a truck nobody asks to use it.
Our first 2003 Sienna is still alive, trouble free with 250K kms. This is a really good choice when it comes to families who have 3+ kids or individuals who do cargo delivery for living. Heck, I even drove one as a student for a few years and it had so much room to transport friends and things like TVs.
My 2014 is paid for and barely broken in at 55K miles. I've taken it on hard and open water fishing, hunting, and long road trips and it serves its purpose well. A set of snow tire is rotated yearly and it's a beast doing what it's supposed to do -- haul people and stuff around. I once took home a pallet of cement from Home Depot in this thing and it didn't break a sweat. Well, it did bottom out, but who cares? It still runs great!
It will still be around when my kids have grown up to drive themselves in it.
I bought a sienna because I have 3 kids. It's been amazing for us. I actually am considering buying an awd model next. There's a guy on youtube who built his van into an overland camper with a bed, stove, sink, and storage cabinets....all removable. No drilling so he can shuttle the family allnweeknand camp on the weekends.
They are sweet. I’m considering it. Much better gas than an suv too. Very discreet.
Who built the overland with removable pieces?
I have the AWD Limited and it's hands down the most solid car I've driven in snow. Also, taking the back seat out I can fit 4x8' sheets of plywood FLAT. We're keeping ours until the wheels fall off!
@@cwclifford I bought the awd model 2 months ago....plan to keep it until the wheels fall off.
it looks like an elephant but ok
And WE are still driving and loving our 2002 XLE. California version. Still perfect. Everything works. And repairs are cheap! 176,000 miles and going strong towards my 300,000 goal!
Back in 2012; my wife wanted a Highlander and I wanted her to get a Sienna... We got a 2012 Highlander. What's in her side of the garage now? 2014 Sienna. It took her 4 months to admit to herself that she chose the wrong vehicle and 9 months to admit it to me. The Highlander can carry 7 people or 5 people and stuff. My Sienna SLE can 8 people AND stuff.
The only thing that is better at being an everything utility vehicle then a minivan is a Suburban... and a base model of those costs more then a fully loaded minivan.
Highlander can carry 8 people too lol. My wife had minivan 2012 Odyssey. Guess what vehicle she has now? Highlander 2017! It can carry 8 people, has better MPG, has better options, is much more capable in winter driving and off-road driving, has better ground clearance too. Looks much much better, drives better, and she can fit it into her side of garage without having to squeeze around - it's just more practical vehicle and more comfortable for everyone. And it was $7k cheaper than minivan of same year - that money is now on her account and she can't be happier.
In 97 my parents left the caddy legacy since 61,for a Chrysler minivan.very good people, stuff,appliance mover!they recently bought a Sienna &rav4.great vehicles.i have been a import buyer,since 91,Mitsubishi, now had 2 sonata& 1Azera.no complaints,fantastic cars!
Im a mobile mechanic & handyman. i drive a 2009 Oddessy around as my work vehicle. It is a beast & has low maintenance costs (tires & both C/V axles). Some folks laugh when i show up to fix their vehicles but i tell em.....mine is still running......it gets really quiet after that. I would definitely switch to Toyota Sienna AWD as my next vehicle but i am also looking at the Gladiator (the mechanic in me is screaming......NO FCA with a TIPM.....but the Jeep moth in me is drawn into the light!).
@BillHK I know that's right, it's looks good but I know its a FCA vehicle.
FCA, what an embarrassment. I've always been a Jeep fan, but FCA got rid of the true Jeeps. You wouldn't be able to trust it and quality is super questionable. Look into a Mahindra Roxor. This is a WWII Jeep that can be had for cheap. Seriously, they hold a patent to manufacture and did manufacture Jeeps during WWII. www.roxoroffroad.com
DON'T GO INTO THE LIGHT!!! Don't do it my friend. They are super expensive and are FCA shitboxes. Designed to fail. Fiat is even considering selling to Renault.
Go with a Frontier or Titan instead
DO NOT BUY A NISSAN Frontier or Titan. Total gas hogs, poor reliability, old tech, and resale is crap. Nissan is owned by Renault. Renault ruined Nissan.
I have a 2011 former taxi sienna that’s been a dream. Paid 2500. I don’t have any kids so I took all the back seats and put a bed it in the back for “miniVan life” weekends. Works great for towing my jet ski and hauling my dirt bike
For the vast majority of people a minivan is far more practical then a suv but most people are too worried about status and making it look like they are adventurous so they opt for the suv lol. I owned a 06 sienna, excellent van and imo was much better looking than the new bulbous sienna.
Agree on the looks! Ours is an 06, 8 seater, going on 200k, normal wear and tear. Great van!
Not giving a shit what people think about you is quite handy! Owner of a beat-to-hell 2000 sienna with 230k miles...
I bought a 2019 Sienna XLE AWD a few months ago. I used it to take a trip down to Florida the first week of June. I took out the middle seats, folded down the back seats and put a nice twin memory foam mattress in the back ($250 Zeopedic from Big Lots), along with everything I needed. I mostly stayed at campgrounds, where I could plug in a 20 inch box fan and stay cool at night. It does the job for someone looking for minimalist van camping or living. I was comfortable. I purchased the roof cross-members so I can add a cargo box or haul a kayak, or maybe bicycle mounts. It's highly versatile and the van is comfy to drive. I was in the mountains of West Virginia during heavy rain and I just set the cruise and it kept distance and speed with the vehicle in front of me, making the drive much nicer. The AWD makes the vehicle feel very sure on the road at all times. I got the Predawn Gray Mica (a dark metallic gray), which is sharp looking and stealth at the same time. Highly recommended as a swiss army knife vehicle. I get looks from some guys while driving it, but I just smile. I think the only down side is reduced gas mileage because of the AWD, but that's a small price to pay. The van doesn't have a spare tire, but the tires are drive flats so no problems there.
I got this over the new Odyssey. The Odyssey had a wheel bearing and transmission issue, and I got rid of it. But before I bought the Sienna, it was undergoing a transmission recall, so I was like F*** !!! But the people told me the recall was simple and that they are all fixed and told me to come back next month (which is now) to pickup the refitted version of the 2019's that already got patch, and so I do and I love it. The ride quality is much more smoother than the Odyssey too I noticed, and the room is better. The only advantage the Odyssey had was better technology and a fancy interior, which meh 10 years from now won't really bother me anymore, because all cars will probably have voice start by then and I'll be glad to have the old button and key fob.
The minivan is one of the best examples of people worrying about image/perceptions.
It's one of THE most practical/ utilitarian vehicles ever made.
CAN'T beat it!!!😊
I love the Sienna and even though they don't buy them here they sell like hotcakes in Africa, especially Nigeria ive been there and they use the Sienna especially for long journey travelling. It's just everywhere. I don't know why people don't like them.
I drive a 2010 Odyssey. My wife drives the Chevy Volt. I have no image issue driving a minivan as a daily driver! I love the upright sitting position. I ride moutain bike and the van swallow several bikes inside easily with room to spare. It's been extremely reliable and very comfortable for long trips for 7 people and luggages. My average combined milage is around 20-22 mpg.
minivans are dope. I tried to get my wife to chose one over the highlander and she wouldn't budge. Huge mistake. These 3-rows SUVs are a JOKE, the 3rd row is usually useless and there isn't much more room in the vehicle vs a standard sedan.
and honestly cars don't make you look cool, at the end of the day nobody really cares what someone else drives.
Rob Santoliquito you mean more $$ than talent? Yeah, that applies to any sport and cars too. I've seen guys buy GT2 or 3 and wad them up after over steering one into an Armco or wall or fellow wannabe during track days. They wear the Nomex,pilotos and all. It's a complete joke.
What isn't a joke is the Sienna Van. I've owned 4 of them and they are the most versatile complete vehicles on the road. Yes, they are swagger wagons, but unfortunately , Toyota has let the latest Gen get outdated. It's been almost 10 years since a next gen. That's a millennium in car years.
JBN..... you are so correct about “in the end nobody cares “. 95% of all of these SUVs and family vehicles end up loaded down with fast food garbage and lost toys, spotty seats from dog hair, etc. Just how cool is a Toyota SUV with four kids a grumpy mom and a barking dog not to mention all the road dirt from never washing it? Get the van. Way better
LT way better.....
And the cherry on the sundae is the AWD.,...
@@RobSantoliquito yep. I'll be cool af in my Sienna . Now if some lame dork has something against minivans just because of what they are regardless of how they look or function, which is usually the case.. that's on them.
@@fredsue317 MinMing gets it
I don’t know if someone has already mentioned this but the sliding doors with little kids is a huge help when parking. You don’t have to worry about hitting the cars parked next to you, like you would with a crossover.
Thanks for standing up for the van (even if they aren't very mini anymore)! I drove a Mazda MPV for 10 years and would have kept it if my wife hadn't wrecked it. Put thousands of mile of family road trips in it!
I love my sienna mini van best car I have ever owned. I used to have an suv because I didn’t want to fit in that soccer mom mini van box but new suvs are so expensive now so I settled for a sienna se and have to admit I love it!! So much more room than an suv and the trunk space is often. My kids say all of the seats feel like the front seats. It’s an awesome van will be driving it for years probably even after kids grow up because of all the space. I moved my sister two bedroom apartment with this van.. so it’s a handy vehicle plus stylish
Convinced my parents to get a 2014 Sienna instead of a highlander. It has been a great car and tows well even when the van is full and going over hilly terrain. More space and flexibility with more upright seating than most crossovers. The second row seats slide for and aft making it a cavernous second row (I'm 6'1").
I had an Escalade freakin loved it. Traded it for a 2019 SE AWD Sienna and I swear it was the best decision EVER! There’s so much to love about it. It’s actually not that bad looking but as far as space and performance it’s a beast!!! I’m a Sienna girl for life now!!!
I would get that. I've been driving a vw passat station wagon for years. The space and awd came in really handy. Crossovers look cool but only good for groceries and commuting. Versatility and utility is key if you enjoy doing events, hauling stuff and having fun. Vans are great for camping too.
For a while, I was not a fan of the minivan, but after we got my wife a 2016 Grand Caravan, I'm slowly starting to like it. I bought a 42" riding mower, and after taking the steering wheel off, it fits like a glove.. with room to spare! I was able to put a 5 gallon gas can, a ceiling fan, and some grocery bags! I'm slowly being won over
I'll never give up my '17 Dodge Grand Caravan GT, they are so practical...it's basically a FWD truck with an 8 foot bed haha. The kids have their own heated seats and a big 10.2 inch DVD player for the long trips. I've hauled 8X4 Sheetrock and plywood, hauled a full size sofa, double size mattresses and a total of 9 wood pallets. It's an amazing van and great on gas too! (Best on highway was 7.6L per 100kms or 31.1mpg)
Dodge has always been good at making sure 4x8' drywall can lay flat in the back. You can't get more practicality for the price than a Caravan seeing as they start around the price of a mid-trim compact car. (CAD$25k).
Thirsty Fox no doubt about that. They are probably the most common vehicle on the road because of that. I almost bought a Pacifica, the one I wanted was $48k before tax, until I saw a GC GT for 30% off, I got it for $36k(CAD) tax in out the door. I couldn’t pass it up.
We've had a few Siennas. We just completed a 5K mile road trip with our '15 Sienna as our camper - with a bed platform in back (rear seats stowed, middle seats removed, gear stowed beneath bed). And 26 mpg avg. As you say - a most versatile vehicle.
you didn't mention they can carry 4x8 sheets of plywood or drywall laying flat. I've carried 'frigs, stoves, etc. with ease. Love my 2017 AWD Sienna; and it was only $30,000 new
You can fit a 4 x 8 sheet of plywood in it? That's impressive. The 4 x 8 test is my personal benchmark for hauling. I won't buy a truck if I can't move 4 x 8 sheet goods flat. I drive a Kia Soul that almost meets this mark. It's a really cramped interior compared to that Sienna though.
@@Dirtyboxer1 It's unfortunate that the first generation of Sienna couldn't pull that off. The space between the wheel wells is something like 46-47 inches.
I have a Ram C/V minivan. It's the utility version of the Dodge Grand Caravan. To carry plywood the end of the sheet is stuffed under the front seats. There's not much clearance there so it can only carry 4 sheets of 1/2 inch plywood or drywall.
2005 Sienna LE - bought it new, now has 240K miles, original engine and transmission. Mix of Los Angeles city and Central CA moutain driving. Love it! Will be buying a new one in another 100k ... or 200k miles.
Love my minivan. Having something less attractive and more functional is a plus.
I have a 2015 Sienna and I LOVE IT! My only regret is not getting one twenty years ago. If I ever wear it out, I will buy another.
As for looking cool, I look at people in crossovers and think "someday they will be cool like me!"
YOU GUYS SHOULD DO A "VAN FACE OFF" (A quick race-driving-towing-MPG-$-)- like you guys do w/ pick ups-OK no G.M.H.- (Hhmm HONDA-TOYOTA-CRYSLER OR NISSAN )
YES, I Totally Agree with Damian Torres.
Yes I agree! Honda, Toyota, and Chrysler face off for mini-vans would be cool. And any other minivans that are popular haha.
Andrew Young Remember the Kia Sedona. Current generation is VERY NICE if you can spare a few cubic feet of cargo capacity, & it has arguably the best looking exterior and interior of any “ mini” van out there right now,
@@gregsolovieff6711 oh yeah! I totally spaced on Kia, that would be a great face off
Also agree.
Love my SE, I've used it to tow a 14ft utility trailer when hauling bulky and long items, no sweat.. Hauls the kids all,over, fits my bikes inside w/o having to take them apart and for security.. Best utility vehicle overall.. Now if I had a business or job that required hauling around dirty and heavy stuff All the time, and on dirty muddy terrain ,id get a truck. But for the bulk of what I use it for, this van foots the bill nicely.. Not only that, it is super comfortable on cross country trips with the kids and luggage.. Cant beat that..
Hell yeah! I just bought a sienna for the utility and space of it! It’s like a covered truck that I can haul my kid around in. Traded in a grand Cherokee it was just too cramped inside.
Best vehicle I ever owned, and I've been driving for over 50 years. More room and comfortable than any SUV. Excellent mileage too! Can't wait for the 2021, then I will trade in my 2015 Ltd.
This video nailed it 100%! Last December I purchased a brand new 2019 Toyota Sienna AWD. Never thought I say this but I'm absolutely in love with this van. (AWD model) Also I own a 2015 Subaru Forester XT and 2010 Toyota Highlander AWD. After purchasing the Sienna first thing I did was go straight to Discount Tires and purchased a set of Blizzak DMV-2. I live in MN so I know how important it is to have snow tires. Being a owner of a Subaru I was extremely impressed by the AWD capabilities of this van especially paired with the best set of snow tires you can buy in our market. I can feel the system working and sending power to each wheel when needed and felt way to confident driving in this years Minnesotas snow season. MN record snow fall for February felt like a joke driving in my Sienna..
If anyone is wondering why I chose Sienna over its class competitors..
1. TOYOTA superior reliability
2. AWD
3. V6 Power / Transmission
4. Room
I will add this van is outdated and body/chassy has been going on 10+ years with alot of refinements to stay on par with competition.
FCA/Dodge No thanks. Why buy a vehicle to have it sit in the Stealerships lot.. Everyday at work I drive a Dodge Caravan with 60k miles. Been through 2 engines, 2 piston miss fire, transmission is currently rattling, just got a new radiator and the list goes on and on...
Honda Odyssey has everything going for it because its newer but it falls behind Toyota in my 1-3 reasons to buy a van. I know a few Odyssey owners and a couple of them had transmission issues.
I know about 15 family and friend who own a Toyota Sienna and they never had issue with them. I have heard of sliding door problems but none I know have this issue..
2021 or 2022 All-New Sienna will be out soon!
kheng xiong, what do you do for a spare tire?
@@jgarcia9011 Most of the time I'm driving around town with a few trips out of town. I could bring a snow tire with me when driving out of town.
Blizzak best snow tyres? Doubt it, but carry on. Nokian or Vredsteins much better.
Since people think minivan is not cool, so the used market is pretty reasonable and easy to find a good one. I bought my 2007 Odyssey in 2015 for just $7000. I have put 100,000 miles on it. I changed tiling belt my self.
Í bought Sienna 2019 XLE with auto access seat . Its comfortable and spacious. The best decision that i’ve made!
alma vega Are you still happy with your 2019 Sienna?
@@monicawilson896 yes ~ we used it a lot.
the Ambitious Woman That’s great. Thank you for your feedback. I want one now!
It's worth getting it, we drove it to Banff & Jasper BC Canada for our camping vacation last yr and this year we went to zion utah ~》the space is enough for 2 people to sleep if needed, we also added yakima storage.
Wow, AWD SE is available now? Nice!!!
I'd buy an AWD Sienna hybrid in a heartbeat.
Wife didn't want a sienna but bought her one and now she can't live without it.
Two upper trims are standard awd now.
Those saying it doesn’t “look” cool, neither does your crossover that everyone else in your suburb has. Got a deal on a slightly used Grand Caravan that has taken me halfway across the country sightseeing and camping, solo. And I bet it’s been further off-road than your mall-crawling crossover. #vanlife
Judging from your profile picture, I don’t think anyone would consider you an authority on “cool”
That1Guy Gee thanks green flames! Your opinion on a single picture of someone you’ve never met means so much...
That1Guy And where in my comment did I ever say a minivan looks cool?
RamblinRAM You said crossovers don’t look cool, therefore making a judgement based on what is cool. If you’re going to look like a huge dork, the least that you could do is actually be smart.
Also, it’s pretty hypocritical to get mad and dismissive of someone else’s opinion when that’s all you have been able to provide yourself
That1Guy so I’m not smart either? I’m glad an internet troll put me in my place! I’m here because I like cars. I’m gonna share my opinion on cars because that’s what it’s for. I’m not exactly sure of your agenda here...
I have a 2004 sienna with 280,000 plus miles and still drive like a champ. My daily commute from Cincinnati to Louisville and to Nashville.
When it comes to cargo/people hauling capability, it's hard to top a mini van. I currently own a mini van, not a Toyota. But I have thought of replacing my mini van with the Toyota Sienna because of the AWD. However, to get the AWD option you lose the spare tire. It comes with run flat tires which a lot of people don't like. I have seen an aftermarket lift kit which gives the Sienna 3.5 more inches of ground clearance. The real problem for the Sienna is it's long overdue for an upgrade. I believe it still does not come with Android Auto or Apply Car Play. I've heard 2021 might be the year.
It has entune 3.0, which means it will come as an update I am sure.
I drive a 2012 Sienna LE AWD in Canada. It's got 201K km on it. Only tear and wear, like tires, brakes and filters. I do not have spare tires and I hate those run flat. They are heavy and don't last long. I just run the regular all season and carry a Slime Flat Tire repair kit. Only had flat tire threes times over the all these years and it only happened the last 2 years. I got those tires repair on my own driveway. Who needs a spare any more. Pirelli makes tires with seal inside and noise control system. I just hope they will make the size for 50 or 55 profile. More companies are making their tires puncture proof. As far as AWD concerns, I found it useful only when you're in deep deep snow and trying to get out of it. I have winter tires on when it gets below 7 degrees. Most of the time, it will be fine. Now I live in Toronto. If you're in Newfoundland or Quebec, AWD may be use more often. Another thing, engine oil. I don't know about other dealers in GTA, the one I go to use Mobil 1 0W-20 synthetic oil. Mobile 1 is not the best but way better than other brands IMO. So the engine runs very smooth even at this high milege. I drove the new 2019 Sienna LE and it is much quieter and little more ponies then mine. More technology toys but overall it's the same. Still 14 cup holders and same seat arrangements. It's already at its best and it's difficult to find a better way to improve the inside. You literally can lay down a big piece of plywood and move things around the city. Extreme practical. I saw a post a while back ago and some guy drive the same van w/o AWD and he goes long distance. He drove a lot of times between US and Canada. By the time he sold it, it has over 500K km on the van. These are hard core facts.
Almost got an AWD until I heard it didn't have a spare. Last thing I need is to go on a long ski trip to Mammoth and blow out a tire in the middle of nowhere. Fix a flat won't fix that and you are still at the mercy of whatever is around you get a new tire. Run flat tech just sucks and is super expensive too. Love my 2007 sienna 2WD!
It supports apple car play since 2018. The 2018 is a free software update, and 2019 and 2020 come with it standard. I believe they choose not to support Android on purpose, for security reasons, they are not the only ones that have done this. Carplay works great on my 2019
I picked up an 06 sienna limited AWD. It’s incredibly useful. I picked up a 3 person couch AND a love seat with the second row removed and the third row tucked in. The lift gate closed. No straps no ropes. Seats are incredibly comfortable. And so much space between passengers which is critical to long road trips. TV is a great bonus too.
Battle Of The Vans please. With 100,000 mile reliability segment of the older or current model.
Make that 200,000 mile reliability! Most of us these days drive a lot!
I owned a 2008 Sienna XLE AWD with 85,000 miles, it got one recall from Toyota to changed the transmission which I paid $0 dollar.
All I did was change the oil regularly, the car is in good condition.
I changed the brake fluid once all these years.
If you gonna buy one don't go for the SE because it doesn't have AWD.
@@Koza1151 I wouldn't really care about AWD since all my driving is on the freeways most of the time! All I care about is racking up the highest miles without major repairs!
My dad's 2011 sienna le reached 100K with nothing and I mean NOTHING but tires, one set of brake pads, and routine fluid changes.
Always Toyota
Bought a 2018 sienna last August. Friggin love it. Never goin back!
I'll admit, my buddy's Sienna was really nice. It did so many things well, just didn't look cool driving it. The captains chairs were great and he could haul so much gear and junk.
So did you think your buddy wasn't cool? My point is, everyone is so concerned about looking cool driving their vehicle, but the truth of the matter is, nobody really cares. When I drive to a function in my minivan, assuming anybody notices, I don't believe that any of them think, "He used to be a cool guy. I wonder what happened?"
Frank Howard my wife would totally disagree with you and I'd probably not give it too much thought. She jokingly asked my buddy if his balls were stored in the glovebox now. Funny comment I thought, but the darn Sienna did a lot of things well. Maybe if he didn't go from a truck to a minivan he would have endured less scorn from my wife.
@@eganfo Funny what your wife's observation was. I think we're opposites. Whenever I see a guy in a giant truck or SUV, I always think to myself, "Sorry to hear about your penis."
Not looking cool while driving could also be a bonus. Speaking from experience. Traffic cops rarely check minivans for speeding. In 13 years of driving minivan I had only 2 speeding tickets and I do drive above speed limit most of the time.
@@slava_trushkin When I was 16, I had a convertible sports car. Got pulled over all the time, then my mother gave me some advice. I purchased two bumper stickers. One said, "America, Love It Or Leave It" and the other one said, "Support Your Local Police". Never got pulled over again. Moral of the story? You can't judge a person by his bumper stickers.
I gave up cargo space on my AWD to get rid of the run flats and have a spare. Made the van ride so much smoother and quieter. Converted to a camper, Journey Lift kit planned for this summer.
Shoulda hung the spare on the tailgate lol
My Prius v has more than enough cargo space for me, and around town it gets about 50 m.p.g. Great for retirees and small families.
We have a 2016 Sienna XLE AWD with about 50K miles. I love this vehicle! It's really amazing in the snow. Last winter, got caught in a New Mexico mountain snow storm that left 15" on the roads. We had to leave before the plows could come. We plowed snow up a 1/4 mile with about a 6% grade and made it out without a single slip of a tire! Amazing! One downside with ours is that it goes through the expensive RFT tires fairly quickly so we have to rotate tires every 5K miles and check the alignment before every long road trip. I'm down to two kids at home, but we are keeping this van. It hauls stuff & people like no crossover can and gets about the same or better MPG. It's great to drive on long trips. Getting in and out is easy compared to most crossovers and (especially) pickups. The engine in the 2016 is great, but I understand the 2017 went up about 30+ HP and more torque. Nathan, I'm with you. I don't own a crossover because the Sienna AWD makes a lot more sense! Thanks for the great reviews TFL!! Keep up the great work!
Gold mine hill please.
We owe Siennas since 2006. 4 kids 4 adults. Love it to death. A must have vehicle with 2+ kids. Went through long trips, shoppings, moves, renovations and much more. One problem that it last for too long but I would love to get a brand new one with a new engine. Thank you Toyota.
hey I love minivans my first vehicle was 93 Plymouth Voyager
Mini vans are cool and roomy!!
Did it break down every other week? 😄
@@tribunation actually my van never had any issues with it I paid $500 for it drove it for 3 years all I did to it was basic maintenance
@@DarylSparks Truly amazing. Rare.
my brother gave me one, bad transmission but otherwise. I drove it for two years with no problem. Can't beat the room.
It seems most of us who watched this video and commented are already in the minivan camp. The people this video targeted just skipped it because of the title.
Owner of an 04 Sienna with 378 000 km.
people are to self-absorbed to change their buying habits
Totally agree, mini vans are way better for everything except towing and looks. Crazy people
Sienna V6 tows 3500 pounds, that's more than a lot of crossovers who do 1500 ish
but whatever you are comparing it to aren’t close to mid size.
those are small crossovers not midsize where they can tow 3500-6200.
@@chrgav1286 seriously with reduced cost and free shipping options these days, it very rare and limited that someone truly need that type of toeing capacity.
That’s when you get a full size van, V8 power!
I have a Honda Odyssey and it is incredible. Road trips, city driving, highway, construction projects, camping, it does it all.
*NEW TRIM 4 THE WIN!!!*
-Lift 4 inches
-Bigger Tires
-Rugged & Raised Looks
-Crossover Type Trim & Look
-Darker Tinted WIndows
-Tow 5K lbs not 3,500 lbs
-AWD & Bench Seat Options
*WILL SELL LIKE HOTCAKES WITH PROPER ALL AMERICAN 4TH OF JULY PATRIOTIC MARKETING - MADE IN USA*
That would be sweet!
LIBERTY MURF already has AWD
www.toyotaofbend.com/blog/lifted-toyota-sienna/
My Sienna is 11 years old. Full of people. Trips to the dump. Tows my 18 foot boat. And is a dream on road trips.
The Toyota Sienna is my favorite minivan, but the infotainment system needs an upgrade and so does the rest of the interior but great video overall. Keep it up TFLNow!
Chevy Toyota Dude it has been upgraded and has apple CarPlay now this is the refreshed model
Yeah its true what Señor Loco is saying. On the next gen they totally need to redo then Infotainment and Interior. I believe that Siena is the better sportier looking of the Van's. How ever the Oddysey has a better engine and towing and infotainment system. The Pacifica is the Ungly Ducking, the exterior looks hideous with that 200 look. However it has the nicer interior of all 3, nice infotainment as well, 3 DVD Players, and The Stow and Go Seats on All back seat make it a winner to me. If I could I would give it the Outside look of the Sienna, the engine if the Odyssey, and keep the reat as it is. But we can only hope that the next generation of Vans will be better looking, and have better infotainment systems.
It has apple CarPlay!!!!!!!!
Yes I am aware it has Apple Carplay, but no Android Auto
@@MattsCarsMusic swap it out for an android head unit
Ive been a very active builder for decades, and use minivans far more than any pickup.. everything is conditioned temp and secure so tools don't freeze in a winter climate Im in. The first thing I do it pull all the back seats out which are still new when I sell it later, then I build a platform bed which works great for hauling gear including 4x8 plywood and still have tons of space under. It just fits 10 Ft on an angle too. I've had full size vans, but minivans like my current Sienna are imo the perfect compromise, hauler and I have taken them almost off road on CO mtn roads, the only thing I wish is for easier lift kits.. Being a Camry drivetrain it is very reliable, and yet cheap used since they make millions. I did love the mid size Astro/Safaris which are bomb but not made for a decade. Main dif to my full size vans is FWD which does just fine. My Chevy Express is much more of a beast, although the best long-trip vehicle since it's a conversion van I can stand up in, and fits 12 ft carpet down the center with back doors closed. I've had a 4WD Hybrid Highlander, MDX, Forester, pickups, and many cars but the minivan is the best single overall vehicle, period. If I have just one vehicle this is it, plus a few motorcycles and scooters of course. Love those sliding doors in tight parking spaces, and in wind, and for camping in summer.. Current Sienna is made for road trips and camping, with flex solar panel, cooler, cooking, bed etc. I do not like the new ones as much as especially the 07-10 ones which I feel were the best they made.. I've put 3 sizes up tires, the ticket is going to LT tires for heavy hauling and much less roll. AWD does not give you a flat floor which I consider essential. Curious if awd actually does better than fwd with good tires, imo not nec.
Love our Sienna...however, would be nice for the front lip to be able to clear a parking block. 😐
Raise it an inch
Or learn to drive.
Panagiotis F Another helpful RUclips comment. 🤭
www.journeysoffroad.com/siennaliftkits.html
@ewxit...that is a real issue with the SE version...quite vulnerable in that area. Thanks.
I grew up in an old sienna, that vans a trooper, raised 3 kids in the back of it and it's still on the road
It's the mommy mobile image, everyone wants to be an outdoorsy, truck driving, rugged individualist these days. The minivan is far too reasonable and comfortable for these rugged types. Let me tell you, for people who are mobility impaired, minivans are awesome. Huge doors, good hip points for seating, and room to stretch out. Walkers or power chairs easily fit in the cargo area. ♿♻
I am outdoorsy and I keep wanting to buy Mitsu Delica D:5 (Japan). I has all I am looking for. The only thing I worry is visibility through the corners.
Definitely sliding doors are amazing outdoors - changing clothes ect on tight car parks just before heading off to the mountains.
I agree in what the guy says about the minivan, I just don't like them ( for me ). They don't have the height that a pick up or a SUV ( FACTORY HEIGHT ) has, besides my wife and I don't have kids nor plan on having kids, as for me the less people I carry the better it is, people are very inconsiderate if not their vehicle ( regardless if it is family or friends ) they tend to be sloppy in dropping stuff that stains the carpet or leave their trash, I learn from EXPIRENCE. I'm not a big fan in carrying people around. So minivans aren't for me.
Journeys Offroad makes a sienna lift kit.
I bought a 2019 Toyota Sienna XLE AWD 18 days ago. It's loaded and such a joy to drive. It's utilitarian. I can camp in it if I want. Load lots of cargo. Take friends on a trip or out for fun. Put cargo on the roof rack. Relax in comfort in the big roomy cabin or the back seats. It's basically the king of versatility and reliability and that's why I bought it.
Give me an air suspension option where I can get 10" of ground clearance. I could get "out there" and bow hunt of it. Great video
I've wanted a Toyota Sienna since 1998. When I bought Toyota Camry. Just last year my husband and I or a pre-owned 2015 XLE Toyota Sienna and we absolutely love it. Don't quite understand why people don't realize their versatility of the Sienna. And we don't have any children, this is all for us in our toys. By the way that 1998 Toyota Camry you know the one with 270,000 miles on it, its still running.
Minivans are more comfortable. That is a nice minivan. ❤️ my sienna. So good for road trips.
I still drive my 2004 Sienna - has 330,000 on it and still going strong. It's perfect for my drums and I haul a fully assembled 2-deck cart as well.
LOVE my Sienna!
I had a 2010 Sienna Limited. $50k.
Moved to Germany with it and it was the best thing in Europe.
Moved to Wyoming after 4 years and traded it in for a Sequoia.
Miss the Sienna!
Ill get one if it came in hybrid form. Toyota can do it. They make multiple hybrid vans outside the US.
Yup. They make some of the best hybrids.
I totally agree. I own the Corolla hybrid and this platform is in it's 4th generation borrowed from the Prius... super reliable and legendary... just need it brought to the Sienna.
Holly Park it’s probably gonna be available with a hybrid in the redesign 2021 model
@@athletejmv I wonder if they have not brought a Sienna hybrid, is due to the heavier weight and resultant lower than hoped for increase in mpg?
Apparently they decided to do it.
I bought my 2006 Sienna van three years ago, best decision ever, this vehicle has all the options including all wheel drive and takes me anywhere I want to go in comfort. It has great reliability and room for all my stuff including my dogs. With winter tires put on this van and all wheel drive, I never get stuck in the snow, living here in Canada all wheel drive is a ''must have'' option.
I think I counted 13 cup and bottle holders in my Sienna.
With that many you would think they install a toilet as well.
not quite, because Suburu Ascent comes with 19.
Just bought one, 2019 Limited Premium AWD. I love my mini van.
Time for a redesign
I previously owned a 2017 Pacifica Touring L Plus (totalled) and now I have a 2018 Odyssey Touring. I've also enjoyed extensive drive time while renting a 2018 Sienna XLE and 2018 Grand Caravan GT. Love them ALL! Minivans will consistently put a smile on my face and make life easier: Sliding doors, flexible seating, excellent storage solutions, big windows, comfortable driving position, great seats for all.
TFLnow, YES, I Totally Agree with Damian Torres. And after the VAN FACE OFF, tell us wich one would each of you would pick and why.
So how about it TFLnow????
I moved a small piano in my 2001 Sienna, from Atlanta to Mobile, AL. I used ratchet tie down straps hooked to the pins that the removed rear seats attached to. I ran them over the top of the piano and when tight the piano did not budge. It took four of us to load and unload the piano. Ten years later I traded the van for a Lexus RX 350, which I do not like nearly as much. The turning radius of the Lexus is smaller but it is noisier than the van.
I love Toyota vans. #noapologies
I love my Sienna. I've owned a Dodge RAM, Infiniti M37X, a Highlander, a Lexus ES and an Avalon and the van is the best of the bunch!
Honestly what's wrong with driving a van. 90% of the crossrovers and SUVs biggest hurdle in their lifetime would be is a pothole.
We have 2017 xle , it is beautiful, very quite, very spacious, good gas mileage, drives like a car lot of features. I love it. Those streets of san Francisco, with 7 passengers and lot of luggage, it was a easy drive very powerful. I highly recommend Toyota sienna. 👍👍
Pacifica is totally awesome. Sienna is really outdated. but minivans are far more affordable than SUVs!
Alviniscute Pacifica not reliable.
Justin Xu Do you actually own a Pacifica or are you a FCA basher. I own a Pacifica with over 50k miles. Never had a problem. The only issue are the oe tires in the snow, swapped them out for snows in the winter.
@@JJustinXu try owning a vehicle before hating lol
I do like minivans. I owned a 2009 Chrysler Town & Country. It was very comfortable. Visibility was great especially after adding blind spot mirrors. The Stow-N-Go seating was perfect. Being an '09 it had the 3.8L V6.
Was a great road trip vehicle with plenty of room to sleep in it if needed.
Only downside to the minivan is it couldn't go offroad or tow my boat.
I prefer the full size vans over minivans. I've owned several and the Ford E-Series will always be my favorite.
I will never own a crossover. I'll probably never buy anything new ever again unless Ford brings back the E-Series in a van configuration. Especially now that the cutaway has the 6.2L option and soon will get the 7.3L V8 to replace the 6.8L V10.
JeepYJ91 a minivan can tow a boat....my 99 T&C AWD easily hauled a 6000 lb boat and trailer on a 1300 mile trip with no issues other than poor fuel mileage.....