New development! On 5/1/19 Toyota announced that a software update WILL BE AVAILABLE SOON to add CarPlay and Alexa support to the Sienna. No word on Android Auto yet.
In which month do you you expect a complete refresh with Safety Sense 2.0? You mentioned the 2021 will be a new generation. Is it in 2020 March? Is a hybrid expected? I don’t mind waiting for a model with Safety Sense 2.0.
I’m a single, young guy and I drive a minivan. It always baffles me when I hear people with kids saying they’d NEVER buy a minivan. If only they knew how practical they are...
WesleyButtercup A highlander or pilot has 0 more excitement in my opinion, and they don’t even look any better than a van. I can see a CUV vs Van argument when you move upmarket to a Porsche Cayenne for example or BMW x5m, Jeep GC SRT8...
It makes sense but I never like when somebody redirects a question which I have. He's answering a question that nobody asked. People ask about SUVs because they do not want a minivan in many cases.
I agree, but the basis of this was my sister in law who really, really needed a minivan but was resisting one. She finally gave in and admits that it was the best thing she ever did because she was the kind of person who really needed the third row space AND the third row room only a minivan can provide outside of a Suburban.
The Sienna is the best vehicle ever crafted by human-kind. I'd call that relevant. Add that to its great qualities of reliability, fuel efficiency, safety, comfort, and sheer f*cking style. Sincerely, A 29-year old bachelor and proud owner of a 2004 AWD LE that kicks serious ass (~175,000 miles and counting). And yes, that AWD is a big part of its greatness. I took my Sienna snowboarding in snowy mountain passes 70 times last winter, including through a blizzard. Ever stuck? Nope. P.S. minivans are superior to literally every other automobile type. Boom, I said it. Also, crossovers are like reject mutant cars that developed not knowing what the hell they are. Is it a car? Is it an SUV? I don't know, but it looks stupid as hell.
I wish the negative stigma towards minivans didn't exist. They just so practical. Not to mention downright luxurious by modern standards. Add in AWD and there isn't much need for a crossover (or many SUVs) for a many people. Too bad 'image' is more important that actual usefulness to the American consumer.
@@vincepalaa I take it your being sarcastic. i was referring to the average Joe's and not tycoons. Specifically this market where people prefer suvs and cuvs because they look "hipper" than vans. Even though in reality most of these "sport Utility" vehicles are nothing more than repackaged station wagons.
@coffeeinthemorning I drove one for about 30minutes.. days later I bought a super clean pearl white Sienna limited with the 3.3 vvti. I am absolutely in love with miss piggy 🤩👍
I sold my parents 2011 Caravan and we kept the 2007 Sedona. Better paint finish, no rust anywhere, doors not rattling, no transmission hesitation, better brakes
Except that's not even remotely true. I'm not sure about the Pacifica but the Grand Caravan is simple, cheap, and durable. Plenty of people in my gardening club have them with 200k+ miles with mostly regular service.
@@mon7563 Yes. My Sedona is holding up so much better than the Caravan. The biggest was rattling sliding doors. The second is finish and rust. The Caravan has a soft bumper that dimples with stone chips. The pressed steel oil pan has no shield and was starting to rust through. Some rust starting on the rocker welds. I maintain my cars exceptionally well and found it better to cash out of the 2011 Caravan and keep the older Sedona.
I've owned only one minivan, a Mazda MPV in the 1980's As I recall it was the only AWD minivan available at the time. Utterly reliable. And the AWD may well have saved my wife's and my life when I managed to get it in a ditch on a logging road (more a mountain trail) in heavy snow high in the Washington Cascades in early spring. Had we not been able to get it back on the road we would have had a very long, difficult hike to any semblance of help. Left me with a soft spot for Mazda that I have to this day. And it makes me wonder why Toyota is the only manufacturer to offer AWD on a minivan. Considering its value in a large, heavy vehicle and how popular and trendy AWD is, it's a puzzle.
@@stephenhendricks103 I hear you sir. The MPV was definitely a very strong minivan. To bad it got discontinued. I'm glad it got you and your wife, out of that situation alive🙇🏻♂️
@@stephenhendricks103 The competitors do offer AWD in mini vans, vans and MPV but just not in the North American market.. Mitsubishi had a mini van with 4X4 and two low range modes in the trans case.. but just not here
I think so. It's honestly one of the best looking minivans in my opinion. I wouldn't mind getting one. I see them all the time used and they look like a good buy.
Mine is 190k 2006 sienna. Nothing major, just regular maintenance. My dad's oddysey has all sorts of fixes...lots of money spent. I will get another sienna if they make it look better than the Honda next year.
I rented one of these last year going from Seattle to Vancouver, I was very pleased with this van. The V6 motor is buttery smooth. I own a Honda Odyssey and I have to say that I would consider this one if I need to buy another van but my kids are getting older and my days of family road trip vacations are coming to an end. Nothing beats a mini van for hauling people and stuff.
I have had a 2013 Sienna LE since new and have never been very happy with it. Cons: 1. Eats tires. Expect 25k miles per set no matter how much you spend. 2. Creaks and rattles. 3. Fuel economy has always been below what it is supposed to get. We average 17 city and have never seen better than 23 on the highway. 4. The drivers power seat failed at about 65k miles and would have been a $1000 repair at the dealer if not for the extended warranty we purchased. 5. Not as quiet as I would have liked. Pros: 1: It has been very reliable other than the power seat failure. 2. Plenty of power. 3. Handles a trailer fairly well. 4. Very comfortable second and third row seats. Average in the front I would say. 5. Lots of cup holders. 6. Very effective for hauling building materials. One other thing of note is that while the second row seats are more difficult to get out of the way than they are in the Chrysler, I find them to be much more comfortable than the Stow-N-Go seats.
i was never a fan of minivans before but you CANNOT DENY the space and comfort minivans offer. prob the cheapest way to fit a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the back without having to go to a super huge suv. the AWD is a big plus. cant wait till they finally redesign it with even more room. very common work van for small contractors.
Bought a '19 Sienna SE AWD a few months ago and it is perfect for me and my family of 4. Very comfortable, good power, storage, and classic Toyota reliability. AWD was a huge factor, which does very well in winter.
@@LoreDeluge Yes, it's been super reliable and has had no issues after 4 years of ownership. Tons of trips and never left us stranded, excellent in the snow with the right tire. We got 5 kids 1 more i may need an 8 seater, otherwise it's great!
I have a 19 sienna AwD. I love the 2gr that it has. I have a downpipe, and full exhaust on it and smoked a GTI with Cobb access port and a stock WRX. All this while my wife and kid were in the car.
If you are want comfort and safety, no car in the world beats Volvo. You don't realize what seat comfort means until you seat in Volvo. This is coming from me as I have drive everything from Yugo to 480,000 Rolls Royce. For the money, Volvo cars safety and comfort are as good as $200K cars.
About the heavy mid row seat removal ... if you are able to finish your home basement yourself with drywall , so lifting these seats should'nt be a problem .
Love the all-wheel drive capability but it comes with those weird run-flat tires which can't be swapped out from the rims. So while it's spacious and has four-wheel drive it really can never be used off road unless you do some serious modifications. Otherwise I would own one of those instead of a big fat SUV.
your wish has been granted. 35 mpg, and the base price of the new hybrid Sienna is not higher than the old one (although if you want the awd minivan you will obviously be paying more than the regular fwd minivan).
The very best and complete comparisons of these vans and crossovers. Thanks Alex, for an unbiased and detailed report that points out all the pros and cons of what a consumer would be looking for. Excellently done and nothing left out that we need to know. Keep it coming!
Very good video to learn about these Vans thanks for uploading. I just saw a Consumer Reports article where it says Toyota sienna is recommended over Honda Odyssey. 😊
I own a 2017 honda odyssey and I had to run with a toyota Sienna 2018 for 2 month and well, both are reliable car. The main 2 differences I,d say are the seats/suspensions and the motor, transmussin coupling. honda seats are firm and same for the suspension. It feel a little more sporty. I personaly don't anjoy the toyota seats, they are too soft for my taste but the suspension is nicely balanced I,d say. Not to soft but not so stiff so road bump are almost not a concern on the sienna. But I just hated how the gas pedal works on the sienna. It is not a linear as the Honda ones. Despite beeing faster on the 0 to 60mph when you drive it its just feel slower. You are constantly reminded that you are driving a minivan in the sienna while the odyssey really feel like it is ready to accelerate at anytime. Get the Sienna if you prefer the boat like ride that is confortable and the odyssey if you want some good driving feeling I'd say.
Hi Alex on Autos justo Wang to say guay tve backups lights are LEDFREE ANF YOU NEED TO INSTALL THEM BECAUSE THERF ARE 9 LED'S AND THE GOG LIGHTS ARE UN_LED'S.
I think the Kia Sedona is right in the middle between the Sienna and the Odyssey when it comes to ride and handling.. the Sedona feels like an Elantra out on the road learning it throu some corners than for what it's physical size would imply
Thanks for great review, as always! The natural progression from this video seems to be review of a Ford Transit Connect Wagon, which I don't find in your videos library... Any plans to do that?
Someone I know bought a Pacifica in 2017. Been in the shop more than at home. They're going to eat the cost and get a Honda or Toyota. I suffered the same Chrysler blues, not long ago. Now I'm in a Honda and couldn't be happier.
Brady Bisgard it really depends on what you do with it. The second row seats are too difficult to manage compared to the Chrysler duo. It also feels bulkier than any other minivan.
I see more Sienna minivans on the road than any other brand. The closest competitor, Honda Odyssey, looks like a space ship/hearse. It’s ugly. On a daily basis I see many older Siennas from the 1990s on the road, can’t say for Honda. If you want your moneys worth, buy a Toyota.
Minivan attest: Vacation to Phoenix. 7 adults, each with 22 inch roller bags PLUS 4 sets of golf clubs. Chrysler Pacifica rental swallowed all the luggage, bags and passengers. No sweat. And it was a relaxed, quiet, comfortable cruiser. Recommend no doubt. Much better than even a full-size Suburban.
Wow....excellent review and presentation. The minivan is one of the most practical designs in automotive history and just right for people that need or want them. For many DYI homeowners, small business or handy-persons the minivan is the best truck they have ever owned. An SUV is big, but nowhere as space efficient as a minivan, and while they may carry up to eight people, the minivan is far more comfortable (& less claustrophobic) for 8. For anyone that wants or needs a minivan and does not need all the flash and bells and whistles, the Grand Caravan is a decent choice and much more affordable or find a gently used one to save even more. The 6-speed transmission is just fine. Each brand has its pros and cons, so buyers should definitely test drive each for an extended time. There are people with 300,000+ miles on Dodge Caravans/Chrysler T&C with no serious problems, and I have known folks with a Sienna with 60,000 miles that had all sorts of expensive repairs. I imagine the next version of the Sienna will be quite amazing, but also very expensive. Let's hope it is not ugly.........😮
I've test driven them all and my family decided on the 2018 Odyssey Elite. Best bang for your buck especially when You look at how well they maintain their value.
And remember that fca reliability isn’t the best. I don’t really believe that the Pacifica hybrid’s savings will compensate for any issues needed to be fixed at the dealer. And I agree that the sienna is relevant even if it’s dated. Remember it has class leading cargo space, AWD, safety, etc. plus efficiency is very similar to the other minivans
did a 3 day road trip, we needed all 3 rows and trunk space; none of the 3 row SUVs could cut it, at all, laughablly so.. the Chrysler Minivan though, ate it up and then some
Carpediem06 minivans cannot be beat... EXCEPT for two Fords. The Flex and the Explorer have excellent three row seating and GIANT trunk spaces with the third row up.
@@afcgeo882 we checked out the Durango, Highlander, and Journey in order, even the Durango, couldn't fit all our gear (believe me, riding a minivan was not on our to do list), but it was the only thing that could do it (they didn't have an Explorer or Flex for us that I remember)..
Anthony Molina the Expedition is massive, but has little trunk space behind the third row. You’d need an Expedition XL to get that. The Explorer actually has more trunk space with the third row up.
As a recent retiree who never considered a minivan I’m buying a sienna with 110,000 miles which I expect to last rest of my life. My truck is no longer relevant as I don’t buy anything I can’t handle by myself and is too high to comfortably get in/out of. My Civic gas mileage served me well commuting daily but no longer an issue. I plan to use when I camp; no more crawling into a tent for me. I travel across country couple times a year and look forward to driving as opposed to flying with only a two week span.
A couple of things...My understanding is if you buy an AWD Sienna mini van you not only lose the spare tire but it comes with run flat tires which many people don't like. Secondly, it is also my understanding that if you buy a Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid you lose the ability to fold the 2nd row seats into the floor.
I inherited my parents 11 AWD when they wanted to get a newer 19. I have mixed feelings about the packaging compromise but I understand it. maybe someday they'll use electric motors in the rears instead of running the drive through the area. I bought a cheap (compact) spare and I'm considering carrying it and getting non run-flats when tire change is due soon
I have a 2011 Siana SE I tow my motorcycle trailer with it. Over the eight years that I have owned it has been extremely reliable basic maintenance and two minor recalls involving the sunroof button and power door mechanism.
I looked at the Chrysler Pacifica but guess what...the recalls are piling up and owner are trading them in after a year of ownership because of reliabiilty issues. That leaves the Kia Sedona as the best combo of price and cost of ownership. Too bad Chrysler can't figure out how to build a reliable vehicle.
Alex, as a lifelong auto enthusiast, I've come to consider you a thorough, fair, objective & informative journalist. Here, cross comparing 3-row SUVs with minivans, I think you've muddied the waters (and unfairly set the Sienna up for failure in the process).
Recently bought a 2019 Sienna SE with Costco pricing. I passed on the Pacifica because of the awful reliability (look at the forums) and the Odyssey because of them downgrading the A/C system and also some reliability issues. The Sienna is older yes but they have done a decent job keeping pace with the safety tech on it and it should prove more trouble free that it's competitors.
This van is much older than the last 2011 redesign. The guts of this van outside of the powertrain are still the K-body, which is what debuted in 2004. Only things that changed were the engine and transmission, but the suspension, frame, and design are basically 16 years old. These vans were dead reliable back in 2004, as they go over 300K normally today, and there is no reason that a 2019 can't do the same thing. Amazing how Toyota can stretch their engineering and design dollars so damn far. It is a basically a 2003 model with just powertrain and cosmetic updates, and it is still the best minivan on the market bar none in my view. The 2021 model is going to kick ass Im sure
Another great review - everyone support Alex. Thanks for the great comparison to the Pacifica Hybrid. I own one and two Siennas, and am glad I bought the PacHy. 30,000 miles and spent only $1500 in gas. Toyota is letting the Sienna slide, I wouldn't be surprised if they let it die as sales are sliding for the model and sales for minivans are sliding overall to the trendy and less useful crossovers.
The title answers it's own question. It's relevant because it's so reliable. There aren't that many players in the segment and none come close to it's reliability.
how can you buy an L after sitting in an XLE. that LE/L trim makes me vomit in my mouth a bit. I'd take a 2019 XLE with 20k miles for the same over a brand new L anyday.
I looked at pretty much every offering in the car market and A mini van was the obvious choice. I bought an Odyssey Elite as in my opinion it the most stylish, comfortable, feature packed van available today. I had to get over my stigma that we NEEDED AWD. The truth is even here in Montana where we get brutal winters, with the advanced traction system and winter tires it gets around better than our 4wd Tahoe. And WAY more usable room. The awd system would just take up precious cargo space and raise the load floor which is why Honda has never implemented it.
My wife and I love our Sienna. Holds our 4 kids well. Don’t get an AWD version. They weigh more, cost more, and are costly when it breaks. Just get good snow tires if you want traction.
I agree that it's hard to beat the space efficiency of minivan. I have traveled to many places with my 2010 Honda Odyssey with 7 people and luggages for thousand of miles. For similar internal space in a cross over or SUV, it would have to be much bigger externally.
Odyssey is modern looking but not as sleek (relatively speaking) vs other minivans Sienna is very dated in looks. Sedona needs to move the sliding door slot and gear selector appropriately like other minivans have. Pacifica is perfect but Chrysler lacks reliability and the resale value. All 4 have one issue or the other. There isn't enough competition in minivan world.
Very comfortable , excellent room! The engine and transmission combo though, is a different story in the Sienna the engine is loud and the transmission shifts like its1990. Toyota jump on the ZF bandwagon please!
Alex: do you think any of the small minivans available in Japan (like Freed, StepWGN or the smaller version of the Oddysey) have any chance in being accepted anywhere outside of Japan? They are amazing - I drive a Honda N-box and can fit more stuff for the road to it than to L RX. ;) That with two passengers only of course ;) My next vehicle will be either Honda Freed or StepWGN AWD. The utility offered is amazing and I can always install a suspension lift ;)
Reliability is number one for me, which would be my main reason for buying this.... However. Can't wait to see the complete redo of this van would be nice! 👌
Please! Someone do reviews for elderly drivers who need space for wheelchair. And low enough floor so I can load it. But high enough seats that I can just stand up....not have to climb up, out of car. Or so high i can not get into. Lots of other folks will soon be reaching this stage of life.
My grandpa was able to climb in and out our Odyssey much easier than the Sienna we rented. The Sienna's 2nd row seat has a weird cushion that tilts upwards, the sienna is also higher off the ground
Never going to happen. No market for it. Even regular minivans’ sales have been in the gutter. That’s why Dodge and Toyota haven’t been updated. No financial sense to invest into something that won’t recoup the investment in 5 years.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide there are online photos of an existing minivan in Japan (Toyota Alphard & Vellfire) that may become the Lexus. Very boxy looking vehicles but practical and roomy, with tons of luxury features.
@@oldschool1928 some rumor says there will be a Lexus version of Alphard for the few selected markets, so I guess that means Japan, China and a few Asian countries exclusive.
It is very unlikely that you would buy 4x8 sheets on a whim. I would take Toyota's seats over the thin stow solution. You could lay a piece of plywood over the rails to prevent them from damaging fragile sheets. Great review as usual!
Not that I’m a huge minivan lover nor will I own one any time, the Honda Odyssey is so much better. The looks, the quality, layout, materials, and features. It does have AWD. Yay I guess.
In the past 10 years, I have not seen a family with a minivan, but like all the contractors and electricians I know that aren't in true work vans or heavy duty trucks are in old minivans. These things I think were designed to be the original family friendly workhorse, before the much more profitable luxury crew cab pickup.
Had the Pacifica hybrid for a weekend. It’s awesome but no Stow n Go. Gas mileage was about the same honestly, probably 23 mpg. I’d get the regular one in “S” trim.
I find it ironic that the entire minivan category has been decimated largely as a result of women deserting them for crossovers. Contrary to conventional opinion men are more positive toward minivans than "soccer moms" as a result of the vehicles' utility and versatility. In the last decade, though, women appear to have opted for the elevated driver seating and image (if not the reality) of being a "safer" choice. And judging from my wife's point of view perhaps women aren't as willing to be dubbed "soccer moms" as they used to be.
I totally agree with you, also in addition to your comment, what people don't realize is that a "soccer mom car" is any car used by a mother to transport children. In other words, it is a "call sign". For example, the Military uses the term "Air Force One" when referring to ANY airplane that transports the President of the United States; so in the same way, ANY car a mother uses is a "soccer mom car"; so that means that Suburbans, Tahoes, Yukons, Lexus SUVs ARE soccer mom cars.
@@lowrider276 Of course many men prefer (and purchase SUV's.) You're missing the point. Women are highly influential in the purchase of family vehicles. As a result, it has been the shift of preferences among women that has fueled the decline of minivans and rise of SUV's.
I'm a big fan of minivans, and my current favorite is the Odyssey. However, if Toyota were to release a Sienna Hybrid, I'm quite confident that would take my top spot. As much as I want to like the Pacifica PHEV, I simply do not trust Chrysler -- too many awful experiences with breaking down.
Toyota's adaptive cruise control is awful. You cannot shut it off and run regular cruise control. If a car merges in front of you, it instantly drops back and you are always overriding it. If you want to pass, you have to pull to overtake about 20 car lengths back so you block traffic. I also tried it in slushy weather which blocked the sensor so zero cruise control for 6 hours.
Well FCA, for the money you ask for Pacifica, people vote to drive Siennas and Odysseys, not an updated version of Grand Caravan. Price it wisely and people will start switching over to Pacifica.
I have the 2015 Sienna SE. got an aftermarket roof rack too. Still going. Only issue I had was the radio head unit malfunctioning. It rebooting and resetting itself.
I had a Ford Winstar 3.6L....limited...plenty of room, horse power...I remember stopping at a rest stop with my family and a family with a Cherokee Jeep noticed how much room we enjoyed compared to their SUV...
I’ve heard whisperings of Toyota releasing a hybrid Sienna. It was 2019, then 2020, now who knows? Any confirmation or rejection of these rumors? I loved the Pacifica until I heard of repeated reliability issues with Chrysler. Seems the Pacifica is too new to judge. Supposedly Chrysler has transmission problems and the Pacifica uses the same transmission producers as Toyota. I’d that confirmed as well? By the way, this was above and beyond the best minivan review/comparison I’ve seen and I’ve been watching these for about a year.
Todd Wagner the Pacifica uses an Aisin transmission (Toyota) on the Pacifica Hybrid model only. The gas Pacifica uses a ZF transmission that Honda also uses on its 17-19 models which is unreliable.
New development! On 5/1/19 Toyota announced that a software update WILL BE AVAILABLE SOON to add CarPlay and Alexa support to the Sienna. No word on Android Auto yet.
In which month do you you expect a complete refresh with Safety Sense 2.0? You mentioned the 2021 will be a new generation. Is it in 2020 March? Is a hybrid expected? I don’t mind waiting for a model with Safety Sense 2.0.
@@CanadaSocial I sell Toyota's, the new generation is slated to be hybrid, with the TSS 2.0 for Full Speed Radar Cruise and LTA instead of LDA
So it looks like Toyota is now bringing OTA updates to their new models. That’s a huge change from old models.
I can’t pay that price for the aging styling and technology 🤷🏼♂️
I wish toyota and honda would implement stow away 2nd row seats to their vans...
I’m a single, young guy and I drive a minivan. It always baffles me when I hear people with kids saying they’d NEVER buy a minivan. If only they knew how practical they are...
Is it really that baffling? Minivans say "I'm a vanilla family man that has forgone excitement for dad practicality".
WesleyButtercup I’ve driven most 3-row crossovers, and none of them have brought me much excitement either.
WesleyButtercup A highlander or pilot has 0 more excitement in my opinion, and they don’t even look any better than a van. I can see a CUV vs Van argument when you move upmarket to a Porsche Cayenne for example or BMW x5m, Jeep GC SRT8...
Very cool that you drive a minivan/box truck! Which one do you drive?
Is it the reliable Sienna???
Question: What is the best three row crossover?
Alex's answer: Just buy a minivan. 😎
It makes sense but I never like when somebody redirects a question which I have. He's answering a question that nobody asked. People ask about SUVs because they do not want a minivan in many cases.
Calvin Hikes except people do or should ask that question because it’s important to be knowledgeable when spending $40k.
Because people who dont tow or dont have more than 3 kids still drive around in Tahoe, Suburbans and Sequoias.
I agree, but the basis of this was my sister in law who really, really needed a minivan but was resisting one. She finally gave in and admits that it was the best thing she ever did because she was the kind of person who really needed the third row space AND the third row room only a minivan can provide outside of a Suburban.
If you want people/cargo hauling capability not much can top a mini van. It fits in a standard garage and any parking space.
The Sienna is the best vehicle ever crafted by human-kind. I'd call that relevant. Add that to its great qualities of reliability, fuel efficiency, safety, comfort, and sheer f*cking style.
Sincerely,
A 29-year old bachelor and proud owner of a 2004 AWD LE that kicks serious ass (~175,000 miles and counting). And yes, that AWD is a big part of its greatness. I took my Sienna snowboarding in snowy mountain passes 70 times last winter, including through a blizzard. Ever stuck? Nope.
P.S. minivans are superior to literally every other automobile type. Boom, I said it. Also, crossovers are like reject mutant cars that developed not knowing what the hell they are. Is it a car? Is it an SUV? I don't know, but it looks stupid as hell.
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I wish the negative stigma towards minivans didn't exist. They just so practical. Not to mention downright luxurious by modern standards. Add in AWD and there isn't much need for a crossover (or many SUVs) for a many people. Too bad 'image' is more important that actual usefulness to the American consumer.
Image is mainly a north American phenomenon.
@@planetstupider502 yes, because all those middle east oil tycoons and Chinese businessmen only drive around in subcompacts. 🙄
@@vincepalaa I take it your being sarcastic. i was referring to the average Joe's and not tycoons.
Specifically this market where people prefer suvs and cuvs because they look "hipper" than vans. Even though in reality most of these "sport Utility" vehicles are nothing more than repackaged station wagons.
True. Roomier n more practical too.
@coffeeinthemorning I drove one for about 30minutes.. days later I bought a super clean pearl white Sienna limited with the 3.3 vvti. I am absolutely in love with miss piggy 🤩👍
Not married and no kids, but still decided to watch the review by Alex
Dream Minivan:
Odyssey's Tech
Sienna's Reliability, engine, transmission, and quality
Pacifica's Stow and Go Seats, 2nd Row
Amen brother
And dodge demon hp. lol seriously why don't they make a van with some hp?
Yeah man the decision is hard
In America, stigma and perception overrule common sense.
Dear God it's amazing how true that is LOL.
These are like the official car of UberXL
oldschool1 At least America has minivans. Good luck finding them in Europe.
Human nature. Not just an American thing
Sooo true! We’ll get better.
But remember that the Chrysler will start falling apart at 50K, whereas the Siena should be good for 250K.
I sold my parents 2011 Caravan and we kept the 2007 Sedona. Better paint finish, no rust anywhere, doors not rattling, no transmission hesitation, better brakes
Except that's not even remotely true. I'm not sure about the Pacifica but the Grand Caravan is simple, cheap, and durable. Plenty of people in my gardening club have them with 200k+ miles with mostly regular service.
@@fighter835 I have a grand caravan with 220,000+ with some issues that caused. Runs good though.
@@edwardg9695 you talk about Sedona?
@@mon7563 Yes. My Sedona is holding up so much better than the Caravan. The biggest was rattling sliding doors. The second is finish and rust. The Caravan has a soft bumper that dimples with stone chips. The pressed steel oil pan has no shield and was starting to rust through. Some rust starting on the rocker welds. I maintain my cars exceptionally well and found it better to cash out of the 2011 Caravan and keep the older Sedona.
Best all round vehicle on the market!
My 98 Sienna is retiring to BCS
With 400 k’s !
Oh yes, my favorite minivan, Two main reasons, Reliability and AWD!
I've owned only one minivan, a Mazda MPV in the 1980's As I recall it was the only AWD minivan available at the time. Utterly reliable. And the AWD may well have saved my wife's and my life when I managed to get it in a ditch on a logging road (more a mountain trail) in heavy snow high in the Washington Cascades in early spring. Had we not been able to get it back on the road we would have had a very long, difficult hike to any semblance of help. Left me with a soft spot for Mazda that I have to this day.
And it makes me wonder why Toyota is the only manufacturer to offer AWD on a minivan. Considering its value in a large, heavy vehicle and how popular and trendy AWD is, it's a puzzle.
Chrysler Pacifica is also doing well on initial quality study.
@@huskydinosaur2860 It is, and the looks of it, is just very attractive. It is on my top 2 very close with this Sienna.
@@stephenhendricks103 I hear you sir. The MPV was definitely a very strong minivan. To bad it got discontinued. I'm glad it got you and your wife, out of that situation alive🙇🏻♂️
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The competitors do offer AWD in mini vans, vans and MPV but just not in the North American market.. Mitsubishi had a mini van with 4X4 and two low range modes in the trans case.. but just not here
For some reason I was blown away by the editing at 5:30.
Scott You’re not the only one
Lol I've done things like that in my videos
Ha lo
Its pretty basic imo
Alex has certainly got the choreography down 8)
I think so. It's honestly one of the best looking minivans in my opinion. I wouldn't mind getting one. I see them all the time used and they look like a good buy.
My family still has a 06 Sienna and is the original owner. Has 170K miles and runs strong.
Same here. I also have a 2006 sienna. Original owner. 350,000 miles. Never had a single problem.
@Shawn Kemp Other than oil changes, batteries, tires, and one time, my alternator, nothing. I take care of all my cars. Preventative maintenance :)
Mine is 190k 2006 sienna. Nothing major, just regular maintenance. My dad's oddysey has all sorts of fixes...lots of money spent.
I will get another sienna if they make it look better than the Honda next year.
262,000 and running fine. front end is wearing down now but I too am also 14 years older.
Even if some of the features are old, the Sienna will always be the most reliable and convenient minivan you can get.
That legroom chart sliding with the sliding doors was a clever touch.
I rented one of these last year going from Seattle to Vancouver, I was very pleased with this van. The V6 motor is buttery smooth. I own a Honda Odyssey and I have to say that I would consider this one if I need to buy another van but my kids are getting older and my days of family road trip vacations are coming to an end. Nothing beats a mini van for hauling people and stuff.
I’m 18 years old and I still watched the whole video.
Best minivan out there. We LOVE ours.
I have had a 2013 Sienna LE since new and have never been very happy with it.
Cons:
1. Eats tires. Expect 25k miles per set no matter how much you spend.
2. Creaks and rattles.
3. Fuel economy has always been below what it is supposed to get. We average 17 city and have never seen better than 23 on the highway.
4. The drivers power seat failed at about 65k miles and would have been a $1000 repair at the dealer if not for the extended warranty we purchased.
5. Not as quiet as I would have liked.
Pros:
1: It has been very reliable other than the power seat failure.
2. Plenty of power.
3. Handles a trailer fairly well.
4. Very comfortable second and third row seats. Average in the front I would say.
5. Lots of cup holders.
6. Very effective for hauling building materials.
One other thing of note is that while the second row seats are more difficult to get out of the way than they are in the Chrysler, I find them to be much more comfortable than the Stow-N-Go seats.
SuperIthar you had a basic trim. You need to get the Limited.
i was never a fan of minivans before but you CANNOT DENY the space and comfort minivans offer. prob the cheapest way to fit a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the back without having to go to a super huge suv. the AWD is a big plus. cant wait till they finally redesign it with even more room. very common work van for small contractors.
Car & Driver just published some photos of the next Sienna.
Bought a '19 Sienna SE AWD a few months ago and it is perfect for me and my family of 4. Very comfortable, good power, storage, and classic Toyota reliability. AWD was a huge factor, which does very well in winter.
Still?
@@LoreDeluge Yes, it's been super reliable and has had no issues after 4 years of ownership. Tons of trips and never left us stranded, excellent in the snow with the right tire. We got 5 kids 1 more i may need an 8 seater, otherwise it's great!
I have a 19 sienna AwD. I love the 2gr that it has. I have a downpipe, and full exhaust on it and smoked a GTI with Cobb access port and a stock WRX. All this while my wife and kid were in the car.
I suggest next time you drag, that you not have kids in the car.. yr wife well whatever,😁👍
😮 what for real? 😅
no SUV can compare to a van in people moving and comfort
I've compared the 3rd row legroom of large SUVs and you're right. The minivan always wins.
If you are want comfort and safety, no car in the world beats Volvo.
You don't realize what seat comfort means until you seat in Volvo.
This is coming from me as I have drive everything from Yugo to 480,000 Rolls Royce. For the money, Volvo cars safety and comfort are as good as $200K cars.
@@meenam300zx yeah, Volvo so safe, I'd stand in front of it and test it's safety systems on me
says the voldiot who got ran over
About the heavy mid row seat removal ... if you are able to finish your home basement yourself with drywall , so lifting these seats should'nt be a problem .
Love the all-wheel drive capability but it comes with those weird run-flat tires which can't be swapped out from the rims. So while it's spacious and has four-wheel drive it really can never be used off road unless you do some serious modifications. Otherwise I would own one of those instead of a big fat SUV.
I want a Hybrid AWD. Electric Ac and no idling. Ultimate sleep overnight with AC van.
It may already be developed but being held back until they can ask $70,000.
your wish has been granted. 35 mpg, and the base price of the new hybrid Sienna is not higher than the old one (although if you want the awd minivan you will obviously be paying more than the regular fwd minivan).
I had a 2004 sienna awd with 220,000 drove all over usa now I have a xle awd sienna 2013 and love it this vans are amazing
The very best and complete comparisons of these vans and crossovers. Thanks Alex, for an unbiased and detailed report that points out all the pros and cons of what a consumer would be looking for. Excellently done and nothing left out that we need to know. Keep it coming!
After being burned on the Honda Odyssey VCM system....I would probably go for the Sienna as our next minivan.
sienna is very best man ever , how ever sienna needs for sure the built-in vacoom cleaner and interior cabin watch cameras.
Very good video to learn about these Vans thanks for uploading. I just saw a Consumer Reports article where it says Toyota sienna is recommended over Honda Odyssey. 😊
I own a 2017 honda odyssey and I had to run with a toyota Sienna 2018 for 2 month and well, both are reliable car. The main 2 differences I,d say are the seats/suspensions and the motor, transmussin coupling. honda seats are firm and same for the suspension. It feel a little more sporty. I personaly don't anjoy the toyota seats, they are too soft for my taste but the suspension is nicely balanced I,d say. Not to soft but not so stiff so road bump are almost not a concern on the sienna. But I just hated how the gas pedal works on the sienna. It is not a linear as the Honda ones. Despite beeing faster on the 0 to 60mph when you drive it its just feel slower. You are constantly reminded that you are driving a minivan in the sienna while the odyssey really feel like it is ready to accelerate at anytime. Get the Sienna if you prefer the boat like ride that is confortable and the odyssey if you want some good driving feeling I'd say.
Hi Alex on Autos justo Wang to say guay tve backups lights are LEDFREE ANF YOU NEED TO INSTALL THEM BECAUSE THERF ARE 9 LED'S AND THE GOG LIGHTS ARE UN_LED'S.
I think the Kia Sedona is right in the middle between the Sienna and the Odyssey when it comes to ride and handling.. the Sedona feels like an Elantra out on the road learning it throu some corners than for what it's physical size would imply
Wow. Great review. I’ve watched a couple other Alex on Autos reviews and they were also fully engaging no waisted time and complete.
Thanks for great review, as always! The natural progression from this video seems to be review of a Ford Transit Connect Wagon, which I don't find in your videos library... Any plans to do that?
Someone I know bought a Pacifica in 2017. Been in the shop more than at home. They're going to eat the cost and get a Honda or Toyota.
I suffered the same Chrysler blues, not long ago. Now I'm in a Honda and couldn't be happier.
Unless you’re towing something this with AWD is the best 3 row thing on the market.
Brady Bisgard it really depends on what you do with it. The second row seats are too difficult to manage compared to the Chrysler duo. It also feels bulkier than any other minivan.
Russell 747 new ones aren’t, but Chrysler did make AWD ones recently.
Russell 747 Toyota absolutely does make this Sienna with All-Wheel-Drive.
I see more Sienna minivans on the road than any other brand. The closest competitor, Honda Odyssey, looks like a space ship/hearse. It’s ugly. On a daily basis I see many older Siennas from the 1990s on the road, can’t say for Honda. If you want your moneys worth, buy a Toyota.
Yes the odyssey is creepy looking
Dodge caravan 2018 sales 151,000. Honda. 107,000. Toyota. 87,000
Wow, excellent review packed full of information!
Minivan attest: Vacation to Phoenix. 7 adults, each with 22 inch roller bags PLUS 4 sets of golf clubs. Chrysler Pacifica rental swallowed all the luggage, bags and passengers. No sweat. And it was a relaxed, quiet, comfortable cruiser. Recommend no doubt. Much better than even a full-size Suburban.
Minivan shines in many ways. Actual usable 3rd row, awd, and a v6 (mostly).
this channel deservers more viewers
Wow....excellent review and presentation. The minivan is one of the most practical designs in automotive history and just right for people that need or want them. For many DYI homeowners, small business or handy-persons the minivan is the best truck they have ever owned. An SUV is big, but nowhere as space efficient as a minivan, and while they may carry up to eight people, the minivan is far more comfortable (& less claustrophobic) for 8. For anyone that wants or needs a minivan and does not need all the flash and bells and whistles, the Grand Caravan is a decent choice and much more affordable or find a gently used one to save even more. The 6-speed transmission is just fine. Each brand has its pros and cons, so buyers should definitely test drive each for an extended time. There are people with 300,000+ miles on Dodge Caravans/Chrysler T&C with no serious problems, and I have known folks with a Sienna with 60,000 miles that had all sorts of expensive repairs.
I imagine the next version of the Sienna will be quite amazing, but also very expensive. Let's hope it is not ugly.........😮
Wow. This guy really loves the Pacifica, doesn't he?
Very appreciative of detailed review & objectivity. Also, Pacifica hybrid loses 2nd row stow & go seats due to battery placement; worth noting.
I've test driven them all and my family decided on the 2018 Odyssey Elite. Best bang for your buck especially when You look at how well they maintain their value.
When is the Sienna not relevant? It’s the best minivan to get.
Consumer Reports is giving the new Honda Odyssey bad ratings, you may be right.
And remember that fca reliability isn’t the best. I don’t really believe that the Pacifica hybrid’s savings will compensate for any issues needed to be fixed at the dealer.
And I agree that the sienna is relevant even if it’s dated. Remember it has class leading cargo space, AWD, safety, etc. plus efficiency is very similar to the other minivans
I love my Sienna so much.
did a 3 day road trip, we needed all 3 rows and trunk space; none of the 3 row SUVs could cut it, at all, laughablly so.. the Chrysler Minivan though, ate it up and then some
Carpediem06 minivans cannot be beat... EXCEPT for two Fords. The Flex and the Explorer have excellent three row seating and GIANT trunk spaces with the third row up.
@@afcgeo882 we checked out the Durango, Highlander, and Journey in order, even the Durango, couldn't fit all our gear (believe me, riding a minivan was not on our to do list), but it was the only thing that could do it (they didn't have an Explorer or Flex for us that I remember)..
Carpediem06 yeah, none of the above would fit as much. You know there are brands outside the FCA right?
George L expedition is massive
Anthony Molina the Expedition is massive, but has little trunk space behind the third row. You’d need an Expedition XL to get that. The Explorer actually has more trunk space with the third row up.
As a recent retiree who never considered a minivan I’m buying a sienna with 110,000 miles which I expect to last rest of my life. My truck is no longer relevant as I don’t buy anything I can’t handle by myself and is too high to comfortably get in/out of. My Civic gas mileage served me well commuting daily but no longer an issue. I plan to use when I camp; no more crawling into a tent for me. I travel across country couple times a year and look forward to driving as opposed to flying with only a two week span.
A couple of things...My understanding is if you buy an AWD Sienna mini van you not only lose the spare tire but it comes with run flat tires which many people don't like. Secondly, it is also my understanding that if you buy a Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid you lose the ability to fold the 2nd row seats into the floor.
True.
I inherited my parents 11 AWD when they wanted to get a newer 19. I have mixed feelings about the packaging compromise but I understand it. maybe someday they'll use electric motors in the rears instead of running the drive through the area. I bought a cheap (compact) spare and I'm considering carrying it and getting non run-flats when tire change is due soon
I have a 2011 Siana SE I tow my motorcycle trailer with it. Over the eight years that I have owned it has been extremely reliable basic maintenance and two minor recalls involving the sunroof button and power door mechanism.
I looked at the Chrysler Pacifica but guess what...the recalls are piling up and owner are trading them in after a year of ownership because of reliabiilty issues. That leaves the Kia Sedona as the best combo of price and cost of ownership. Too bad Chrysler can't figure out how to build a reliable vehicle.
We are closing in on fifty years since the last reliable Chryslers left the assembly plants. I am talking about the Valiant and Dart.
Gas price is high at the moment, don’t know why Toyota still has not brought the Hybrid/plugin hybrid version to America. Poor North America market.
Alex, as a lifelong auto enthusiast, I've come to consider you a thorough, fair, objective & informative journalist. Here, cross comparing 3-row SUVs with minivans, I think you've muddied the waters (and unfairly set the Sienna up for failure in the process).
When you do the palisade review can you do the same baby seat comparison? Center walk through/trying to get out from the back or middle.
If you have kids and people to transport, nothing beats a minivan. Plus it's a fantastic car for home Depot runs.
Recently bought a 2019 Sienna SE with Costco pricing. I passed on the Pacifica because of the awful reliability (look at the forums) and the Odyssey because of them downgrading the A/C system and also some reliability issues. The Sienna is older yes but they have done a decent job keeping pace with the safety tech on it and it should prove more trouble free that it's competitors.
May I ask how much you paid with Costco pricing. ?? Also which model?
This van is much older than the last 2011 redesign. The guts of this van outside of the powertrain are still the K-body, which is what debuted in 2004.
Only things that changed were the engine and transmission, but the suspension, frame, and design are basically 16 years old. These vans were dead reliable back in 2004, as they go over 300K normally today, and there is no reason that a 2019 can't do the same thing.
Amazing how Toyota can stretch their engineering and design dollars so damn far. It is a basically a 2003 model with just powertrain and cosmetic updates, and it is still the best minivan on the market bar none in my view. The 2021 model is going to kick ass Im sure
Another great review - everyone support Alex. Thanks for the great comparison to the Pacifica Hybrid. I own one and two Siennas, and am glad I bought the PacHy. 30,000 miles and spent only $1500 in gas. Toyota is letting the Sienna slide, I wouldn't be surprised if they let it die as sales are sliding for the model and sales for minivans are sliding overall to the trendy and less useful crossovers.
Sienna Van's will always be made.
The title answers it's own question. It's relevant because it's so reliable. There aren't that many players in the segment and none come close to it's reliability.
Great review. It would be interesting to know the max cargo capacity details for all the minivans, height from the ground for example is hard to find.
Thanks for the great video. My wife and I are in the market for a Sienna.
Just bought 10/11/20 left over L model for $26,500! Unbelievable! I love it!
how can you buy an L after sitting in an XLE. that LE/L trim makes me vomit in my mouth a bit. I'd take a 2019 XLE with 20k miles for the same over a brand new L anyday.
As an owner of an Odyssey, you are spot on in all your comments. Excellent job!
tradersato eww honda is terrorist car
tradersato eww honda is terrorist car
I looked at pretty much every offering in the car market and A mini van was the obvious choice. I bought an Odyssey Elite as in my opinion it the most stylish, comfortable, feature packed van available today. I had to get over my stigma that we NEEDED AWD. The truth is even here in Montana where we get brutal winters, with the advanced traction system and winter tires it gets around better than our 4wd Tahoe. And WAY more usable room. The awd system would just take up precious cargo space and raise the load floor which is why Honda has never implemented it.
I like the sienna se.
2014
My wife and I love our Sienna. Holds our 4 kids well.
Don’t get an AWD version. They weigh more, cost more, and are costly when it breaks. Just get good snow tires if you want traction.
One of the most reliable vans out there... not looking forward to a significant update... prefer reliability than bells and whistles...
I agree that it's hard to beat the space efficiency of minivan. I have traveled to many places with my 2010 Honda Odyssey with 7 people and luggages for thousand of miles. For similar internal space in a cross over or SUV, it would have to be much bigger externally.
Honda Odyssey may have a better infotainment system with more high tech features, but the minivan is less reliable then Toyota's
Toyota reliability with a good naturally aspirated V6 (port/direct injection) and not some dinky 4 banger turbo, and no CVT.
Odyssey is modern looking but not as sleek (relatively speaking) vs other minivans
Sienna is very dated in looks.
Sedona needs to move the sliding door slot and gear selector appropriately like other minivans have.
Pacifica is perfect but Chrysler lacks reliability and the resale value.
All 4 have one issue or the other. There isn't enough competition in minivan world.
Lmao you "forgot" about the Nissan Quest
@@dtay8913 Nissan discontinued the Quest.
What about the wonderful Mercedes Metris?
Even if the quest was still a thing. I wouldn't count It. That thing is an embarrassment
15:09 Pacifica and Odyssey share the same 9-speed transmission. Well that solves it. Sienna is the only van worth buying now.
The hybrid Pacifica is really the one to get bar none. Otherwise yah the Toyota is a sure bet, esp if you need AWD.
Very comfortable , excellent room! The engine and transmission combo though, is a different story in the Sienna the engine is loud and the transmission shifts like its1990. Toyota jump on the ZF bandwagon please!
Alex: do you think any of the small minivans available in Japan (like Freed, StepWGN or the smaller version of the Oddysey) have any chance in being accepted anywhere outside of Japan?
They are amazing - I drive a Honda N-box and can fit more stuff for the road to it than to L RX. ;)
That with two passengers only of course ;)
My next vehicle will be either Honda Freed or StepWGN AWD. The utility offered is amazing and I can always install a suspension lift ;)
Excellente Alec... I have a 2005 Sienna so I would probably opt for the Sienna do to dependability...
Reliability is number one for me, which would be my main reason for buying this.... However. Can't wait to see the complete redo of this van would be nice! 👌
Please! Someone do reviews for elderly drivers who need space for wheelchair. And low enough floor so I can load it. But high enough seats that I can just stand up....not have to climb up, out of car. Or so high i can not get into.
Lots of other folks will soon be reaching this stage of life.
My grandpa was able to climb in and out our Odyssey much easier than the Sienna we rented. The Sienna's 2nd row seat has a weird cushion that tilts upwards, the sienna is also higher off the ground
Sienna
The new Toyota sienna come in four-cylinder only is there an issue with the engine? Big car but small engine why they didn’t make a V6?
can't wait until the Lexus minivan come to USA
I hope they do, but all the folks I've spoken with there are saying not to expect it "any time soon" :-\
Never going to happen. No market for it. Even regular minivans’ sales have been in the gutter. That’s why Dodge and Toyota haven’t been updated. No financial sense to invest into something that won’t recoup the investment in 5 years.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide there are online photos of an existing minivan in Japan (Toyota Alphard & Vellfire) that may become the Lexus. Very boxy looking vehicles but practical and roomy, with tons of luxury features.
@@oldschool1928 some rumor says there will be a Lexus version of Alphard for the few selected markets, so I guess that means Japan, China and a few Asian countries exclusive.
It is very unlikely that you would buy 4x8 sheets on a whim. I would take Toyota's seats over the thin stow solution. You could lay a piece of plywood over the rails to prevent them from damaging fragile sheets. Great review as usual!
Sienna is just perfected and refined.. it would need some kind of major differentiation for its new generation and not just packing on tech
Not that I’m a huge minivan lover nor will I own one any time, the Honda Odyssey is so much better. The looks, the quality, layout, materials, and features. It does have AWD. Yay I guess.
In the past 10 years, I have not seen a family with a minivan, but like all the contractors and electricians I know that aren't in true work vans or heavy duty trucks are in old minivans. These things I think were designed to be the original family friendly workhorse, before the much more profitable luxury crew cab pickup.
toyota needs to bring an electric minivan to the market
They just did
@@skepticalmechanic toyota does not have any pure ev cars, forget about pure ev minivan
Had the Pacifica hybrid for a weekend. It’s awesome but no Stow n Go. Gas mileage was about the same honestly, probably 23 mpg. I’d get the regular one in “S” trim.
I find it ironic that the entire minivan category has been decimated largely as a result of women deserting them for crossovers. Contrary to conventional opinion men are more positive toward minivans than "soccer moms" as a result of the vehicles' utility and versatility. In the last decade, though, women appear to have opted for the elevated driver seating and image (if not the reality) of being a "safer" choice. And judging from my wife's point of view perhaps women aren't as willing to be dubbed "soccer moms" as they used to be.
I totally agree with you, also in addition to your comment, what people don't realize is that a "soccer mom car" is any car used by a mother to transport children. In other words, it is a "call sign". For example, the Military uses the term "Air Force One" when referring to ANY airplane that transports the President of the United States; so in the same way, ANY car a mother uses is a "soccer mom car"; so that means that Suburbans, Tahoes, Yukons, Lexus SUVs ARE soccer mom cars.
This is nonsense. Plenty of men have bought into the SUV craze, especially since minivans aren't seen as masculine to many men.
@@lowrider276 that is partially true yes. But I know more men that women who prefer a minivan
@@lowrider276 Of course many men prefer (and purchase SUV's.) You're missing the point. Women are highly influential in the purchase of family vehicles. As a result, it has been the shift of preferences among women that has fueled the decline of minivans and rise of SUV's.
Hey Alex, I always watch your videos & find them very helpful.
I’m planning to get the new 2019 mazda 3. What is your take on that?
Our dealership has several of these that are shuttle vans, they have nearly 300k on them and they run great.
Two cars I have driven that gas gone past 300k miles with no major repairs are Toyota prius and a sienna
No battery issue with the Prius?
I'm a big fan of minivans, and my current favorite is the Odyssey. However, if Toyota were to release a Sienna Hybrid, I'm quite confident that would take my top spot. As much as I want to like the Pacifica PHEV, I simply do not trust Chrysler -- too many awful experiences with breaking down.
Pikminiman Of course! Toyota never break down!
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I LOVE THIS MINIVAN
So you're saying all 3, Sienna, Odyssey, and Pacifica can take a full 4x8 sheet laying flat? I've seen conflicting reports on this.
Toyota's adaptive cruise control is awful. You cannot shut it off and run regular cruise control. If a car merges in front of you, it instantly drops back and you are always overriding it. If you want to pass, you have to pull to overtake about 20 car lengths back so you block traffic. I also tried it in slushy weather which blocked the sensor so zero cruise control for 6 hours.
Well FCA, for the money you ask for Pacifica, people vote to drive Siennas and Odysseys, not an updated version of Grand Caravan. Price it wisely and people will start switching over to Pacifica.
I have the 2015 Sienna SE. got an aftermarket roof rack too. Still going.
Only issue I had was the radio head unit malfunctioning. It rebooting and resetting itself.
I had a Ford Winstar 3.6L....limited...plenty of room, horse power...I remember stopping at a rest stop with my family and a family with a Cherokee Jeep noticed how much room we enjoyed compared to their SUV...
Do you have any spy photos of the next generation all new 2021 Total Redesign Toyota Sienna new minivan?
I’ve heard whisperings of Toyota releasing a hybrid Sienna. It was 2019, then 2020, now who knows? Any confirmation or rejection of these rumors? I loved the Pacifica until I heard of repeated reliability issues with Chrysler. Seems the Pacifica is too new to judge. Supposedly Chrysler has transmission problems and the Pacifica uses the same transmission producers as Toyota. I’d that confirmed as well? By the way, this was above and beyond the best minivan review/comparison I’ve seen and I’ve been watching these for about a year.
Todd Wagner the Pacifica uses an Aisin transmission (Toyota) on the Pacifica Hybrid model only. The gas Pacifica uses a ZF transmission that Honda also uses on its 17-19 models which is unreliable.
Expect news of a Hybrid next year.