Zack Alive ENTIRE Time!? | Final Fantasy 7 Remake Theory (Ending & Part 2)

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  • Опубликовано: 20 июл 2020
  • Zack Fair was alive and kicking the whole way through part 1 of Final Fantasy 7 Remake!? How the hell could such a theory be possible and if so, where the hell was Zack and what was he up to? This theory is mad but also one of my favourite possibilities for the Final Fantasy 7 Remake saga and where Square Enix may steer the story of the games. From samurai bushido codes, how Wedge & Biggs were able to survive, what new Avalanche cells were doing in Midgar and even what Barret's 'date' scene at Aerith's house meant. If you are in any way a Zack Fair peasant and wanna experiance some Final Fantasy 7 Remake mindblow then tune in for this deep lore & story dive because alot is going to be explained. The possibility that there was no alternate timeline in play at the end and all answers lead to... STAMP! Yes stamp the little Shinra doge we see littered about Midgar in the story. Square Enix were leaving us a breadcrumb train. But it's just a theory.. A FF7 Remake theory!! (smells Matt Pat court case)
    Full spoilers for the end of Final Fantasy 7 Remake and the ending of other compilation material like OG FF7, Dirge of Cerberus, advent children & Crisis Core! Plenty of succulent OST soundtrack songs from the games to. Buckle up!
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  • @ellesar04
    @ellesar04 4 года назад +326

    People are going to be blown away when Cloud goes to hand the black materia to Sephiroth, and Zack snatches it out of his hand and does Materia Fusion. Combining it with a low materia and making a Doritos Nachos Taco materia. Your plan is screwed, Sephiroth.

    • @robando2922
      @robando2922 4 года назад +25

      So much for the Dis-pear materia XD

    • @rctolentino3262
      @rctolentino3262 4 года назад +9

      this is so crazy it might just work

    • @joseamaya1520
      @joseamaya1520 4 года назад +8

      Outstanding Move.

    • @Koniving
      @Koniving 4 года назад +13

      People might be even more blown away... when they realize that this isn't a remake of FF7, but a sequel and the (in Kitase's own words) "5th and final entry into the compilation" and that "it was planned during the development of Crisis Core" but "shelved due to lack of resources and manpower."

    • @tykazy977
      @tykazy977 4 года назад +6

      Yo I was so hype reading this comment.....like AWH SHIT HES GOT IT SOME CRAZY THEORY BOUT TO BE OFF THE....DORITOS NACHO TACOO LMAO ROTFL

  • @KingdomFighter07
    @KingdomFighter07 4 года назад +144

    Angeal’s mom: Are you Zack the puppy?

    • @monkeydjimmy5169
      @monkeydjimmy5169 4 года назад +5

      Lol 😂👌

    • @TouchPlayEmu
      @TouchPlayEmu 4 года назад +10

      Thanks angeal

    • @monkeydjimmy5169
      @monkeydjimmy5169 3 года назад +3

      @Radio Kaos But at least he is alive 😂😏😎🙌😭🔝

    • @monkeydjimmy5169
      @monkeydjimmy5169 3 года назад +3

      @Radio Kaos Bur at least he is alive ? ........... I don't know man 😞😞😞😞😞
      *SE* need to bring him back somehow 😢😢😢😢😢😥😥😥😥😥

    • @monkeydjimmy5169
      @monkeydjimmy5169 3 года назад +3

      @Radio Kaos No that was Zack
      I can give a very good explanation about that with a lot of valuable informations
      However it will take time
      I am already working on something huge about *FF 7* explaining about Clouds mental problem would be probably the best way to close up my discussion videos
      What ever the case may be its Zack . Its hard to explain cause some people are in denial about *anything that has to do with Zack*

  • @DrKreiger
    @DrKreiger 4 года назад +65

    They did always refer to Zach as a puppy in crisis core...

  • @jackbyrne5214
    @jackbyrne5214 4 года назад +131

    Just imagining our reactions if Zack shows up to save Aerith from Sephiroth and then joins the party or something crazy like that. Can. You. Imagine. the. HYPE. 😱😱😱🤤🤤

    • @eveayanami9314
      @eveayanami9314 4 года назад +18

      It would screw the history like some kind of bad teenager fanfiction

    • @jackbyrne5214
      @jackbyrne5214 4 года назад +10

      TsundEVE Brea but the history will be changed now regardless, that was the point of the ending to part 1. By defeating destiny, they are already “screwing the history” and some things (not everything I’d imagine) will play out differently now as a consequence of them defeating destiny.

    • @eveayanami9314
      @eveayanami9314 4 года назад +1

      @@jackbyrne5214 i am not saying that they shouldn,t change anything but literally avoid a character dead it would be awful

    • @CultureWatcher5000
      @CultureWatcher5000 4 года назад +13

      Unfortunately, from that point forward every battle would start with 'Activating Combat Mode'.

    • @King32028
      @King32028 4 года назад +1

      @@CultureWatcher5000 😂😂😂

  • @Starcat5
    @Starcat5 4 года назад +86

    Sweet mother of Darkness, how did I miss this... Zack remembers Sephy from before he went crazy. Cloud, not so much. What if the reason Future!Sephy is acting more "human" is because he has an additional source of memories to draw from?

    • @FinalFantasyPeasant
      @FinalFantasyPeasant  4 года назад +16

      wooow that is a super interesting idea

    • @radrose4864
      @radrose4864 4 года назад +3

      Dayuuuum that is freaking genius.

    • @Carla-ec6xn
      @Carla-ec6xn 4 года назад +2

      This escalated quickly!

    • @walnoemispoyt5604
      @walnoemispoyt5604 4 года назад +7

      @@FinalFantasyPeasant Zack is alive in a different timeline because Cloud is in possession of the Buster Blade. If Zack is alive in the same timeline WHY DOES CLOUD HAVE THE BUSTER BLADE? WHY WOULD ZACK GIVE CLOUD THE BUSTER BLADE. If Zack is alive in the same timeline THEN CLOUD MUST HAVE A DIFFERENT SWORD IN THE OPENING SCENE IN FF7 REMAKE. Nomura is EXTREMELY SPECIFIC ABOUT HIS ATTENTION TO DETAILS THERE IS NO WAY THAT NOMURA WOULD MAKE A MISTAKE LIKE THIS unless ZACK IS ALIVE IN A DIFFERENT TIMELINE.

    • @Shalakor
      @Shalakor 4 года назад +1

      @@walnoemispoyt5604 You don't have to be dead to pass a sword on.
      Kinda hard to carry a sword like that around while doing secret missions anyway, which is validated by how often Shinra is watching the party as they think they're being sneaky in this game.

  • @Qbin07
    @Qbin07 4 года назад +9

    In the OG game when Aerith and Cloud chill at the park, Aerith says Zack was her first boyfriend and that she "really did like him for a while" while in the Remake she says "He's the first man I ever loved." Which seems like a much higher level of affection.

    • @Qbin07
      @Qbin07 3 года назад

      JayRon Pascual my point more on the focus that she makes it seem more serious in the Remake than the OG at the same point in time. As though she’s not the same Aerith as in the OG game

  • @AstralMuffin105
    @AstralMuffin105 4 года назад +35

    The possibility of Zack being alive and supporting Avalanche from the shadows is an option I hadn't even considered....and I LOVE IT!!! I really hope it turns out to be something like that.

    • @RIELTURO
      @RIELTURO 4 года назад +4

      Sounds like bad fanfiction and you can clearly see him in the afterlife with Aerith in Advent.

    • @AstralMuffin105
      @AstralMuffin105 4 года назад +5

      @@RIELTURO Yeah, but that was in the original timeline. This is a new one, and that means things don't have to stay the same. Anything can happen.

    • @resetbutton7982
      @resetbutton7982 4 года назад +1

      AstralMuffin105 Zack is dead. And even if he did happen to appear Sephiroth would control him just like Cloud because he has jenova cells

    • @AstralMuffin105
      @AstralMuffin105 4 года назад +4

      @@resetbutton7982 Not really, because if you remember, Zack is immune to the Jenova cells. They don't effect him in any negative ways.

    • @WARPAINTandUnicorns
      @WARPAINTandUnicorns 4 года назад +3

      I wasn't on board with Zack being alive until this theory. He by the will of the planet is there to fix the bad ending. I guess the planet has a soft spot for humanity now as it allows them to try to fix their mistakes. It hasn't written them all off this time.

  • @AbuFarouq
    @AbuFarouq 4 года назад +133

    I always liked Zack ever since playing crisis core and I hope he gets a happy ending this time.

    • @michaeledwards1644
      @michaeledwards1644 4 года назад +3

      Vincent will be an epic playable party member in which i would use the entire time(F Cloud) then Sephiroth gets the mind blowing ending like Darth Vader saving the world..*spoiler* its going to be epic

    • @AbuFarouq
      @AbuFarouq 4 года назад +1

      @@michaeledwards1644 would be cool to have another vincent exclusive game too

    • @michaeledwards1644
      @michaeledwards1644 4 года назад +1

      @@AbuFarouq yea but i think they're combining the entire story into this remake maybe past even 3 parts so the best is yet to come

    • @lucapietro3023
      @lucapietro3023 3 года назад +3

      Nope he died end of story they should not change it

    • @michaeledwards1644
      @michaeledwards1644 3 года назад +3

      @@lucapietro3023 without him dieing Cloud's story is pretty uninspiring

  • @FinalFantasyPeasant
    @FinalFantasyPeasant  4 года назад +135

    I'm 99.9% convinced Stamp is Zack, as someone just said, the blonde dog it's carrying has bandages on the same arm Cloud has his from geostigma.
    So all that remains to answer is...
    "Even though your always tempted, by a tender meaty bone"- Does this make Aerith the tender meaty BONE?

    • @nate50ae
      @nate50ae 4 года назад +11

      I don't know... Zack does have a particular tenderness for Angeal and Cloud.
      On the note of Zack being Stamp. The fact that Barret calls Cloud Stamp during the first mission has even more implications to it.

    • @AstraFulminous
      @AstraFulminous 4 года назад

      I think you're right about Zack. I guess the bone could be a hypothetical future with Aerith. Then also does this make the Tree Sephiroth

    • @tiffyw92
      @tiffyw92 4 года назад +5

      "tender meaty BONE"
      Mm-hm. I've seen too many Zerith fanfics to expect anything else. :p

    • @painof7
      @painof7 4 года назад

      Pez ya sold me m8. I love these videos and ya got me posting all the whacky thoughts that could come to my brain.

    • @laith9989
      @laith9989 4 года назад +2

      I read this without context before I watched the video. I thought it was a joke😂
      It actually makes sense

  • @emilyleslie-goggin214
    @emilyleslie-goggin214 4 года назад +126

    Honestly square just needs to give me more zack and ill give them all my money.....

  • @Something5059
    @Something5059 4 года назад +31

    Stamp Needs a Iron Man moment.
    Stamp: I am Zack Fair

  • @MarkGeuel
    @MarkGeuel 4 года назад +32

    IN ADDITION TO THE "ZACK'S AVALANCHE" THEORY:
    I REALLY REALLY THINK THAT.. During Barret's talk with Cloud in Chapter 14 when Barret talks about Finn, Al, and Cissnei -the way he described them is like:
    Finn = Zack (lazy little punk)
    Al = Kunsel (inside man)
    Nellie = Cissnei (tight with Jesse, looks like sisters)
    I think it's pretty accurate -especially that the names sound like they were taken from a part of their OG names... from Zack "Fair" comes Finn, from Kun-sEL comes Al, and from CissNEI comes Nellie.. I might be stretching this damn thing too far but I really think it's possible! I mean they were never shown on screen yet so.....

    • @PeachBootyPoppin
      @PeachBootyPoppin 4 года назад +5

      I think you nailed it. Makes perfect sense.

    • @kenz16v55
      @kenz16v55 3 года назад

      Does this mean Zack's wearing a suit now? Cuz I don't mind it though.

  • @LovelessDogg1
    @LovelessDogg1 4 года назад +35

    When Cloud and the gang are infiltrating the warehouse to get the explosives, they point out that someone took out the guards already. It wasn’t Jessie, and it’s never really touched upon again.
    Also, the reason Avalanche has cells is because of Rufus. He’s actually the one funding and in control of them. That’s why there was an assassination attempt on Shinra’s life as he’s trying to gain control of the company.
    This is something that is going to be a big reveal later on down the line. This is going to turn Barret’s whole view on things upside down.

    • @usagirogers2165
      @usagirogers2165 4 года назад +7

      You're right! They never really did tell who took out the guards. At first I was thinking it was the other cell of avalanche but they didn't show up until after Biggs, Wedge, and Cloud were fighting

    • @mathewstafford7943
      @mathewstafford7943 4 года назад

      Were there actually bodies? I don't remember. My understanding is that they were just not at their post and that Cloud and company's interpretation of that was that someone took them out.

    • @Khittope
      @Khittope 4 года назад

      I thought it was Wu Ti

    • @LovelessDogg1
      @LovelessDogg1 4 года назад +1

      WhiteHawk Not overthinking. Making an observation.
      If it was another Avalanche Cell, knocking out(not kill) the guard then disappearing for 20mins, and comeback later after a big shootout has already occurred makes zero sense. So, I don’t think so.

    • @dbigz
      @dbigz 4 года назад

      @@LovelessDogg1 it was most definitely the other Avalanche cell lol looking too deep into it. I respect that, but you're wrong here, man. It was made pretty clear that's who it was

  • @snarkvictory4425
    @snarkvictory4425 4 года назад +50

    Zack is working with Rufus, and it's why Rufus can see the whispers. It would stand that if Aerith can share knowledge, so can Zack

    • @Masenken
      @Masenken 4 года назад +7

      Pretty sure Zack didn't see them though. That was us watching a convergence event take place

    • @teddybearable13
      @teddybearable13 4 года назад +2

      @@Masenken he doesnt need to see them at that particular moment for the previous statement to still be true

    • @Masenken
      @Masenken 4 года назад +3

      @@teddybearable13 how? He's saying that Rufus can see the whispers because Zack could transfer that ability, implying that Zack could see them too

    • @teddybearable13
      @teddybearable13 4 года назад +1

      @@Masenken All I'm saying is perhaps it's a connecting factor we havent seen yet. The possibilities are still endless

    • @Masenken
      @Masenken 4 года назад

      @@teddybearable13 considering it was Shinra that tried to put him and Cloud down like dogs, and Rufus' attitude towards SOLDIERs when he heard Cloud has "quit", I find it highly doubtful.

  • @MirameSenpai
    @MirameSenpai 4 года назад +58

    This game just keeps on giving with the theories and possibilities ❤️

    • @rctolentino3262
      @rctolentino3262 4 года назад

      I love it. We have gaming prophets among us

  • @Rachj23
    @Rachj23 4 года назад +40

    .... I just remember that cloud seems to get his head ache at important parts. Such as when Aerith mentions Zack... well do you remember at the beginning and the group is doing the blow up the reactor? Barret is shouting at Cloud and only at the point that Barret says “are you a loyal little doggie” Cloud has his head ache thing! I LOVE your videos and this theory is getting me excited!

    • @yves_santa7
      @yves_santa7 3 года назад +3

      @60 Billion Double Dollar Man hes not a dog it's a joke

  • @tylerteel4482
    @tylerteel4482 4 года назад +31

    When you mentioned Zack being Stamp, I was reminded that Angeal had called him, "Zack the Puppy" in Crisis Core, so yeah, that was a big "a-ha!" moment. Great Video

  • @Daniel-zv4bd
    @Daniel-zv4bd 4 года назад +51

    36:35, The wounded puppy on Zack 's back (Beagle) can also be seen as Cloud in this theory as well due to his left paw having a bandage on it...... the same place Cloud has geo-stigma....... coincidence?

    • @sarcirinsdaefarin3950
      @sarcirinsdaefarin3950 4 года назад +1

      THIS

    • @FinalFantasyPeasant
      @FinalFantasyPeasant  4 года назад +25

      Ho boy i forgot about Clouds AC bandages :O I mean at this point it doesn't seem possible Zack isn't Stamp. The 30th exhibition of Aerith shouting stamps name is also so weeeeird. God I love the deeps of this game. THIS is what final fantasy is about!

    • @rctolentino3262
      @rctolentino3262 4 года назад +4

      these theories makes me more excited for Part 2

    • @Matt-fy5vx
      @Matt-fy5vx 4 года назад

      I'm sure cloud has bandages in the remake as well :)

  • @Brannen666
    @Brannen666 3 года назад +8

    Noticed another peice of evidence to your theory. During the first chapter when Barret says, "Wonder is little stamp can bite the hand that feeds him." Cloud has a "PTSD moment" at first you might think he is reacting to not being soldier but I think he is actually reacting to stamp. (Zack)

  • @daybreakgo5609
    @daybreakgo5609 3 года назад +54

    I’d like to think Zack is “Finn” who is leaving the stamp marks.
    After all the name Finn itself means “Fair”

    • @Cooil1
      @Cooil1 3 года назад +4

      Does it? Norse mythology says it comes from the norse word "Finnr", which means "Person from Finland".

    • @andraslukacsovits2349
      @andraslukacsovits2349 3 года назад +2

      Fair+Finn=Fenrir?

    • @nero2643
      @nero2643 3 года назад +1

      @@Cooil1 in irish it means white or fair

  • @princeandthief8193
    @princeandthief8193 4 года назад +4

    Mate, I love you. The idea of multiple timelines actually hurt my very existence. This makes perfect sense, and has given me hope that it is a single coherent story. Feel so much better now

  • @AstraFulminous
    @AstraFulminous 4 года назад +28

    According to Vans In the Japanese Version of the song there's a line about Stamps collar being a Symbol of Courage/Justice which the Kanji for Symbol could also mean Proof of Existence which matched something Zack tells Cloud in the original series about Cloud brcoming his living Legacy.

  • @goldenphoenixnaruto
    @goldenphoenixnaruto 4 года назад +13

    Hey~ There's Ray. But, yeah. I'm very, very convinced that this is what's happening. Because I picked up on Avalanche being way too involved in shit. And the timing of that other cell raiding the same place as Cloud and the others is way too perfect. Something else is going on.
    Ray also mentioned that, if Zack surviving is the will of the planet because it needs him to sort of be the ace in the hole against Sephiroth, then Cloud *cannot* know that Zack's alive. Sephiroth would read that in a heartbeat and the gig is up. Sephiroth would change tactics to neutralize the new threat in a heartbeat. So, every time someone mentions Zack, or something that would trigger Cloud into remembering him, the planet itself shuts that down real quick. Like, this go around, it might not be Cloud suppressing his own memories, it might very well be the damn planet.
    They tell us that Jessie's theory is that mako poisoning is when someone's spirit is stuck between their body and the heart of the planet, and the lifestream is "memory and hope," so Cloud's spirit/mind coming back to his body *missing some things* would be well within the planet's power to do.

  • @heathercampbell6059
    @heathercampbell6059 4 года назад +12

    Zack was always my favorite character. Thank you for this!
    I typed this before you showed him and played price of freedom in the background in kind of killed me emotionally all over again… and still thinking you're for it, but ow! My HEART...!

  • @vg8000
    @vg8000 4 года назад +11

    When you mentioned at 33:45 what would happen if the cells were combined I remembered the scene where Hojo told Cloud that he never was a soldier. Barret and Tifa didn't react to that and I still wonder why.

  • @echoplanet2000
    @echoplanet2000 3 года назад +6

    Very interesting theory! Good ideas! and the idea that Zack is on a mission that the planet called on him as a last ditch effort to help them achieve is pretty awesome.
    It's awesome when you think of how many people he's influenced. Aerith's confidence is directly tied to Zack's influence. Also, Cloud's confidence is tied to him as well! Simply awesome character!

  • @painof7
    @painof7 4 года назад +10

    I screamed when I thought about this "a character who would look like Jessie but be with Finn, Al, AND Zack," (my next thought) "huh could a graphically upscaled Cissnei's look like Jessie?" "We never learned her real name."
    To that point, why wouldn't she be with an ALIVE ZACK. Maybe not romantically since Zack loves Aerith, but the point is though that it is during this period after the events of Crisis Core that AN OPENING appears on the Turks Team. Elaina joins the Turks as the newby. Who did she replace? Cissnei? Maybe. But, why isn't Cissnei on the team anymore? While I don't know the original answer I do know that the hero is alive.

    • @mistaken5289
      @mistaken5289 4 года назад

      i always assumed cissnei quit after zack was killed and watched over his parents in gongaga. could be some interesting food for the next part.

  • @Americansikkunt
    @Americansikkunt 4 года назад +33

    Shinra captured Zack in near-death state, and after being rejuvenated in a vat of Jenova cells, given prosthetic limbs akin to Darth Vader or Mecha-Freiza.

    • @matthewcreek1172
      @matthewcreek1172 4 года назад +3

      Zack was immune to the jenova cells so that outcome is quite literally impossible :/

    • @Americansikkunt
      @Americansikkunt 3 года назад

      Matthew Creek
      I skipped Crisis Core, but WAIT, WHAT?!
      Zack is immune to Jenova (the ancient space alien) cells??
      Is that just a random plot point, or does that have any significant meaning?

    • @Americansikkunt
      @Americansikkunt 3 года назад +1

      Radio Kaos
      That would be cool.
      Like, his physical body died that day, but his brain/spine was kept alive by Shinra.
      ...And maybe now Zack can’t remember his identity, all while being trained as the Shinra’s next great weapon, Mecha-Zack.
      Edit: Mecha-Angeal and Mecha-Genesis can also make appearances with their minds wiped...

    • @matthewcreek1172
      @matthewcreek1172 3 года назад

      @@Americansikkunt Yes, Zack is immune to jenova. It is also adressed in the original FF7 when you trigger the secret scene with cloud and him in the shinra manor or if you read the test results. one subject was heavily poisoned due to mako overdose but was also affected by jenova (cloud) and the other showed no response to the jonva cells (zack), which literally means immunity.
      as far as now the only "meaning" behind it or rather purpose is to establish even further how cloud is actually inferior to zack in any way...but he HAS TO grow in his mindset and as a person to overcome things like being controled. Cloud is the inpure and almost failing hero stereotype while zack is the pure and standing tall stereotype.
      It COULD possibly get relevant for the plot in the future since zack is established as alife in another timeline. possibly to do something cloud couldn't (maybe saving aerith, who knows)

    • @matthewcreek1172
      @matthewcreek1172 3 года назад

      @@Americansikkunt Neither of them will ever appear as adversaries in the future. also Genisis wont make an appearance ever again (because of legal issues)

  • @esckay4fun231
    @esckay4fun231 4 года назад +2

    BRUH, that stamp soundtrack with a montage of Zack hit me in the feels! Nice touch!!

  • @lamcb.9476
    @lamcb.9476 4 года назад +13

    Pez starting about Stamp. me : "yeah because it's how they differentiate the two timelines-" Pez : "Stamp is Zack" me : (brain implodes) BECAUSE HE'S A PUPPPYYYYY!!!!!"

  • @arthamosssg
    @arthamosssg 4 года назад +5

    my theory is he's the founder of avalanche. the creators said that stamp is very important. if you notice the one that flies by zack is a "puppy" version of the ones that jesse, biggs and wedge use.

  • @TheWaveExistance
    @TheWaveExistance 4 года назад +9

    The way I see it is when the crew defeated the arbiters of fate it changed the timeline from point of their first interference which was at the time of zacks death so everything after that moment was changed .

  • @barretwallace3349
    @barretwallace3349 4 года назад +6

    If we end up having 2 Clouds in the same place I will need to have a talk with the directors and Kitase.

  • @chibiasta
    @chibiasta 4 года назад +11

    Omg Zack / Aerith and Sephiroth can be like Lightning and Cauis, pulled outside of the timelines to observed and take actions...?!

  • @painof7
    @painof7 4 года назад +2

    Aw man Pez. Your theories are by far the things that give me the most hope.

  • @costumemom4250
    @costumemom4250 4 года назад +3

    This whole video was amazing, but that last bit with the Stamp song...the BEST!

  • @jelenavucic2293
    @jelenavucic2293 4 года назад +30

    OK, but now I'm gonna be deeply disappointed if this doesn't go as Pez said 😅

    • @juzmega1544
      @juzmega1544 4 года назад +3

      Forreal i would love if it goes this way!!! Like zack is my fave ff charachter

  • @richp7234
    @richp7234 4 года назад

    Love these videos. The theories are incredible. I hope that you're even half right. Next installment cannot arrive soon enough!

  • @jackbyrne5214
    @jackbyrne5214 4 года назад +3

    Pez, you are talking loco... and I LOVE it. Such a deep DEEP dive. Great theory!

  • @theashenchevalier
    @theashenchevalier 4 года назад +1

    Incredible video bud! I'm in agreement here and I'm so hype for Part 2! I think Nomura is doing a great job!!

  • @drumjod
    @drumjod 4 года назад +3

    That was great to finally understand the words from the Stamp song at the end. Love that song.

  • @corevanguard1234
    @corevanguard1234 4 года назад +5

    Man Pez, what you what you were talking about at 18:00 really made me think about Advent Children for some reason. And I know a lot of people dismiss it, or don't care for it (gorgeous action pieces and cinematography aside) but wouldn't it stand to reason, as hinted at multiple times during that movie, that Zack as been with Aerith in the lifestream this entire time. So if she was somehow allowed to go back with a new mission to change fate, you know damn well that he wouldn't let her go it alone. He's alive. Somewhere. No doubts about it. Being the good angel he always was and became in the end :3

  • @Triviumfan21
    @Triviumfan21 4 года назад +2

    Love this idea a lot! Would definitely love this more then just an alternate timeline that would just feel like an after thought when it's all said and done. I think there is a definite way to use Zack without it feeling cheated, which you mentioned about Sephiroth abusing time, so the world is like, this is all we can do. Great video my dude!

  • @valentinosadventure
    @valentinosadventure 4 года назад +1

    Pez , this is brilliant ! How do you come up with such amazing theories every time ? 😊💪 Stamp = Zack ! Damn ! ❤

  • @raen5256
    @raen5256 4 года назад +5

    Dear Pez, I knew you were a mad man but I didn't realize you were THIS mad. I love your theories! This does go inline with the fact that they called Zack a puppy in Crisis Core

  • @Someonewe7lv
    @Someonewe7lv 4 года назад +6

    Great video mate! The stamp and samurai part were really interesting :)

    • @FinalFantasyPeasant
      @FinalFantasyPeasant  4 года назад +2

      It's kinda what started my interest in doing a Zack vid, the honour code of Japan is stronk. Accepting death is the highest form of liberation

    • @Nyla_emotes
      @Nyla_emotes 4 года назад +1

      ​@@FinalFantasyPeasant In Jessie's parents house you see the "Beagle-stamp" and there is the word ORIGINAL also on that stamp (unfortunately). So that part of the theory does not match since it is not referred only to the other dog type stamp. Anyway nice theory as usual!

  • @andreyoliveira9257
    @andreyoliveira9257 3 года назад +3

    Nice theory, man! Never thought abou it like that, it's amazing to think how much Zack could have played behind the scenes all this time, the idea of having him all along is mind blowing ^^
    He definitely has the connections to makes things happen, probably has the resources to start this, he was a Soldier 1-Class, even after defecting from Shinra e should have some "savings" somewhere.
    And I do believe specially in the part that he is building his own Avalanche, after all he was some sort of tutor for new Soldier members like Angeal was for him in the beginning of the Crisis Core.
    By working with the Turks he may have learned some tricks on sneaking around and getting/planting info.
    All in all, I don't think anyone else would be so prepared as him!

  • @amrit-malhi
    @amrit-malhi 4 года назад +7

    The Zack theme in the background 😭😭😭

  • @manteero
    @manteero Год назад +1

    Stamp song is quite interesting indeed, if you heard the first half, at the end it says take a stand at Shinra, but on the second half there's no mention on Shinra instead become the chorus which says stamp never stops and now still kicking bad guys butt.

  • @Broadmoore
    @Broadmoore 4 года назад +1

    I’ve watched this several times, I freaking can’t stop watching this man. By far the best best best theory (or should I say fact?) video I’ve ever seen

  • @jeffhampton6972
    @jeffhampton6972 4 года назад +2

    Holy crap, man! I'm just discovering your videos and they're seriously blowing my mind. Thanks for your infectiously excited analysis!! I'm way more excited for how this story goes now. :D

    • @FinalFantasyPeasant
      @FinalFantasyPeasant  4 года назад

      haha love to see this comment mate! Blowing noodles is what I aim to do :P welcome to the story twilight zone compadre

    • @jeffhampton6972
      @jeffhampton6972 4 года назад

      @@FinalFantasyPeasant Haha, that's totally what it is. Good thing I had ramen last night for dinner. Who knew I'd need a noodle replacement.

  • @PrinceRose
    @PrinceRose 4 года назад +12

    What if it was called Crisis Core because that’s the story of Zack dying, and the beginning or “core” reason for the Crisis (the 500 yr ending at the end of OG) that is to be averted in Remake? 🤔

  • @fattmusiek5452
    @fattmusiek5452 3 года назад

    This video was awesome. These are some reallyyyy good ideas And theories. Well done, I think this moves the conversation forward

  • @greyambrosia
    @greyambrosia 4 года назад +4

    okay so what if the reason zack survived his encounter was actually because of sephiroth, as we know sephiroth seems to have some control over the whispers so maybe he needed to ensure zack's survival to complete his plan.

  • @alexisdavis5584
    @alexisdavis5584 3 года назад +1

    I'm super exsided because not only do love Zack but for him to be behind the sense, it just fills me with excitement and I can't wait for part 2

  • @umbra6552
    @umbra6552 3 года назад

    Peas! Great video man! I'm always intrigued

  • @thezx5795
    @thezx5795 4 года назад +7

    Pez what if because Cloud has the Buster Sword now this is what leads to Zack getting a new blade A.K.A the Fusion Sword and that's how Cloud eventually gets it later on.

  • @j4ys0n
    @j4ys0n 3 года назад +6

    "Don't keep your guests waiting she says!"

  • @RoryCMahan
    @RoryCMahan 3 года назад +5

    How sick would it be if part 2 opened with you playing as Zack?
    I like this theory. It's like Aerith and Zack saw the original timeline saved, walked out of the church only to be sent to a branch in the timeline Sephiroth created.
    It's like a remake and a sequel based around first waifu and husbando.

  • @grandmanancy3570
    @grandmanancy3570 4 года назад +1

    This is quite a different way to think about it and very interesting as well! I cant wait to see how it turns out in game!

  • @copyrightfreemusic4377
    @copyrightfreemusic4377 4 года назад +1

    Great video mate, keep up the good video 👊

  • @kei7540
    @kei7540 4 года назад +15

    If Zack isn't alive he's more of a whisper like being or something like sephiroth

    • @sarthakarora3212
      @sarthakarora3212 4 года назад

      you mean a ghost? FF7 has ghosts lol

    • @kei7540
      @kei7540 4 года назад

      @@sarthakarora3212 Nah

  • @65Reidlos
    @65Reidlos 4 года назад +14

    If anything, Zack being alive at the end, what ever may come, I feel represents the "death" of the non Cloud , Cloud. With the Zack living, Cloud doesnt go crazy and has already learned to be himself vs the past where he was haunted by sephiroth the whole time. Even if they never meet, symbolically he has saved Cloud

  • @lumorpg1995
    @lumorpg1995 4 года назад +1

    Thinking of Stamp as Zack is a new theory and well appreciated. I was already thinking that the only way Biggs and Wedge could be alive is if someone else went up there and got them. Who else could be a wild card within the game other than Zack? Also, I think there's more to that Sector 7 lab too. It almost seemed as if Cloud was flashing back as if he had been down there once and not just flashing back to being a lab experiment in general. I think that's why it was more of a cinematic event when the whispers tossed him out. I really love your theories Pez. I think you're finding more connections.

  • @shadowstar1310
    @shadowstar1310 4 года назад +1

    Awesome and amazing theory as always Pez. Honestly the thought of an alternative timeline scared the hell out of me because that’s really dangerous territory, but I absolutely love the idea of Zack actually being out there in this timeline. It does make me wonder how the memory transfer happened though. Because wasn’t the trigger Zack telling Cloud that he is Zack’s living legacy? Or was it something else that I’m forgetting. And that ending montage made me cry

    • @sarthakarora3212
      @sarthakarora3212 4 года назад

      memory transfer what? Cloud is a zack fan, who wants to be zack it's simple as that.
      Zack told him to be like him and he just did that but the trauma messed with him along with jenova and mako over dose that lead to him thinking he was zack due to brain damage.

  • @gneminerift7485
    @gneminerift7485 3 года назад +1

    Zack is a living specimen as a 1st Class Soldier WITH S Cells ontop of being a standard Mako and Jenova cell infused Soldier.

  • @Frankachuu
    @Frankachuu 4 года назад

    Hey, bravo! I thought these very similar thoughts aswell, and this was nicely pieced together to share with everyone awesome stuff

  • @OldManSakaki
    @OldManSakaki 4 года назад +1

    This is probably your best ff7r theory so far. Thanks for sharing!

  • @kaioriuzamaki
    @kaioriuzamaki 4 года назад +4

    Also another nod to Zack being Stamp is he’s constantly referred to as a puppy

  • @Broadmoore
    @Broadmoore 4 года назад +1

    DUDE!!!! YES!!! You nailed it, thank you!!! This is amazing

  • @sookim3884
    @sookim3884 3 года назад

    omgsh great analysis! subbed!

  • @1984MrDead
    @1984MrDead 4 года назад +1

    Great video. Keep up the good work

  • @EdoItachiAnbu
    @EdoItachiAnbu 4 года назад +17

    Would love that much more than it being a alternate time line. Great video peas 🔥

  • @dreamsandhonour3319
    @dreamsandhonour3319 3 года назад

    Man! thanks you`re making him a superstar! loved your theory and logic! keep it up! I believe and respect what you have in your mind :D

  • @monkeydjimmy5169
    @monkeydjimmy5169 4 года назад +24

    Okay *real talk here*
    I am not trashing Cloud here cause he is 1 of my favourite characters in the entire franchise but *Zack* is my number 1 favourite
    Zack has the *BEST* Character development and he for that reason he was EVEN *Nominated* in *Japan* to be above Cloud Strife in the *Rankings* as a well Character development
    Zack isn't 1 *dimensional* as some people *intend* to say in order to trash the character
    Zack *may be smiling* but he *dies on the inside*
    We see him in many moments where his *soul* can't handle some *circumstances* and he breaks
    Its amazing cause with Zack you get to begin playing as a *teenage young boy* who wanna be a hero and Ending up with a *mature man*
    His entire *Arc* is beautiful as Cloud would say on the *Remake* 😜
    He slowly becomes from a *young arrogant teenage boy to a man*
    And its because of *ALL* this that happens in his life that he becomes that way
    Zack doesn't want to bother people with his problems that's why he smiles and try to make everyone around him feel comfortable and nice
    Zack was lucky and born a talented kid . And for that reason he didn't had much trouble joining *SOLDIER* but his *REAL STRUGGLE* would begun the *moment* Angeal would leave *Shinra*
    Zack's Character is amazing and if some people actually *give a fuck like they would give a fuck for Cloud they would SEE what i mean*
    I don't say that i hate Cloud i just say that Zack gave me something Cloud couldn't as a *character*

  • @michaeldehart3253
    @michaeldehart3253 4 года назад +1

    My theory is that when you fought the last boss on the other side of the rift you were outside time and space so when you defeated the will of the planet you erased the influence the planet had since the beginning. Upon returning to the planet a lot has been changed, but only the characters involved will remember what has taken place. I predict you’ll see Jessie as a performer at the Golden Saucer.

  • @Dominion-Regalia
    @Dominion-Regalia 4 года назад

    Looks like your Ps4 is just as excited as you Pez and honestly I can't blame either of you. I'm loving the tune of this theory for sure.

  • @Cman04092
    @Cman04092 4 года назад +1

    Pez, i love the way you think and your theory crafting. You should become a story writer for a game! The way your games play put would be so fun to see!

  • @jakdexter2075
    @jakdexter2075 4 года назад +4

    I’m excited to see Zack reading all those unread letters 😭

  • @nybigblue44
    @nybigblue44 3 года назад +1

    THAT WAS GREAT!

  • @bungawizmedia8003
    @bungawizmedia8003 4 года назад +1

    Well done. I like it. Keep up the good good.

  • @gustavo.sanford
    @gustavo.sanford 4 года назад +1

    I really hope you’re on point with this one! Brilliant theory!

  • @Abishokaya
    @Abishokaya 3 года назад

    Final Fantasy Peasant, you come up with some of the craziest theories! LOL, It's so entertaining! This suggestion is just for fun. But, if you search for the temperament of Stamp's breed on Google, there is a list of traits. (Beagle Temperament) It is also interesting if you look up the other dog breed. It's almost the opposite, except for one that they have in common. (Yorkshire Terrier Temperament) Their color spots are kind of reverse too. One has mainly black fur on its back, the other has light or silvery fur. The imagination you have is amazing, Keep it up!

  • @maplelief_dreaming
    @maplelief_dreaming 2 года назад +1

    Oh dang, my fav theory so far.

  • @amylisang
    @amylisang 3 года назад

    OMG. Can’t even count how many times I said that out loud when you gave possible evidence to why he might be still alive. We need the creators to see this video

  • @eausora3038
    @eausora3038 3 года назад +1

    People say that Zack will die on that cliff from getting attacked by three soldiers; this is unlikely. They wouldn't have bothered showing Zack at all if they were just gonna kill him at that same part anyways.

  • @TheDigitalDecade
    @TheDigitalDecade 4 года назад

    I think you nailed it! I’m convinced that’s exactly what is going on.

  • @Psg0000
    @Psg0000 4 года назад

    My mind is blown. Angeal’s mom calls Zack puppy. Zack = Stamp 100%. I cannot believe I didnt see it and it took so long for someone to figure it out. Fantastic video. Now we have it speculate even further on top of that issue

  • @radrose4864
    @radrose4864 4 года назад

    Omg I’m such a sap. I actually got teary eyed when you were talking about cloud being ready to accept dead at the end of OG FF7

  • @Giltenkreuz
    @Giltenkreuz 4 года назад

    This just blew my mind, you made me think of things I didn't think I should think of 😶😶😶😱😱😱

  • @joseamaya1520
    @joseamaya1520 4 года назад +19

    Zack will always be my fav character regardless, eversince I played FF7 crisis core, this is why im here.

  • @cloud7546
    @cloud7546 4 года назад +1

    That’s perfect
    I hope they make that timeline “what if zack lives”

  • @chapachuu
    @chapachuu 4 года назад +1

    Ahhhhhh, I love this theory! I was thinking about this theory yesterday, but not in as much detail as you. I think of it as the "merging fates" timeline aka new timeline of FF7 going forward. It either going to be this, or the multiple timeline that can somehow interact thing. I would actually prefer the "merging fate" timeline where Zack exists in the same timeline as the others and people's memories slowly get re-written according to butterfly effect stuff.
    Anyway, great video! I'm glad you made the Stamp and Zack connection. I always thought there was more to it than just indicating a different timeline/merging fate thing and Stamp being a simple mascot. You made a compelling argument for how Stamp really plays into things :D

  • @chasalexis3904
    @chasalexis3904 4 года назад

    I had a similar idea regarding Zack and his role on Avalanche. I agree that Zack either effects avalanche or is part of avalanche and has ties to shinra through kunsel. But also I think that clouds seeing his old comrade was also important for the story because it foreshadows that not everyone has strong loyalty towards shinra even though they work for the mega corporation. I do read, and listen to a lot of other things too, Rufus being influenced is also something that I think may be important too because if Rufus was given some memories he’d realize how peril things got in advent children. I appreciate things like this keep up the great work

  • @shaneschofield6303
    @shaneschofield6303 3 года назад

    This fan theory sits better with me than alternate timeline Zack but let's be honest, Nomura's got a hand in this. I imagine everyone rolls their eyes at the meeting and politely nods as he gestures towards scrawling text and doodles. As he thrusts an excited finger into the notepad, to eagerly point out a note:「スタンプさんは違います!」

  • @JamesJNothingIsTooSensitive
    @JamesJNothingIsTooSensitive 3 года назад

    What if the two stamps represent both Zack and Cloud?
    Remember, Zach's original goal was to start a merchant company with Cloud in Midgar.
    Zach lives, so... perhaps the two Stamps are representing them both. One where Zach is helping (Remake) one where Cloud is helping (OG, because there is no Zach to hire.)
    Zach, is likely working as a mercenary, for Avalanche, without Barrett's cell knowing. This is why the other Wutai groups were showing up, particularly when the team needed them - because of Zach giving intel to Wutai as a merc.

  • @lilacdratini
    @lilacdratini 3 года назад

    I loved all of this, I love Zack so much I want to see him again! And please what is the version of Stamp you played at the end?

  • @dunlel2755
    @dunlel2755 3 года назад +1

    Zack will be the arnorld time traveling meme

  • @courtney4831
    @courtney4831 4 года назад

    All for behind the scenes Stamp Zack!!

  • @SkryptViciouz
    @SkryptViciouz 3 года назад

    I'm with you on zack being with us the whole time being sneaky sneaky. Lmao bow wow wow....little stamp