W edit. I think Zonakin was a special case and more than a dark side amp so I scale him higher than post IH Anakin. It was a let go moment just like what Mustafar Kenobi did. Both let go their worries, fears, boundaries and whatever holding them back for reach a greater power. I think those two moments were parallel to each other and it's not surprising considering what a top-notch writer Matthew is. It was kinda irrelevant but just wanted to say lol.
You could scale Anakin like that, yeah. I also do agree that Matthew is phenomenal as a writer as well. And don't worry about it btw. I think your take is actually pretty nice on the matter. It was actually an interesting insight!
Imo he mid diffs post IH anakin and ext diffs zonakin I have Zonakin, senate palps and Yoda as basically equals and Unconflicted Mfv slightly above them Big w edit as always
Friend, what is the difference between Zonakin and Post IH Anakin, I always wanted to know that, by the way, great bro, I follow you and watch your videos, always enjoying the quality 😎🔥
Interesting Scaling! I agree with basically everything with the exception that I scale KFV much higher than every Anakin version. Why? Let me explain lol. So, as you know, IH Anakin went from equals with Dooku to stomping him with just a fraction of usage of the Dark Side. IMO, after IH, Anakin was as powerful as his Zonakin self or slightly higher (not that this makes a difference for KFV but it's my scale on IH Rage Amped and Post IH Anakin lol). KFV got 2 different amps, becoming stronger for 2 reasons: 1. He fully embraced the Darkside and let all his powers out using it (as the ROTS novel alludes with the Dragon portion of the novel). 2. Like Sidious, he got amped as the Darkside did, with each Jedi death. To quantify KFV's massive advantage, look no further than Sidious himself as he got insanely more powerful between his Pre-O66 and Post-O66 selves. KFV got the same amp + his initial acceptance of the Darkside. So, IMO: KFV (Mid-High Diffs) > Post-O66 Sidious (High-Extreme Diffs) >= Senate Yoda (High Diffs) > Post IH Anakin (Extreme Diffs) > Zonakin.
@@DarklightAlexEdits that’s good scaling icl for me I had Zonakin above his post IH self so when he turns and raids the temple (KFV) I have him at the Zonakin state and when he gets his second powerful when laughing the separatists (MFV) as well as the sith eyes he’s above Yoda sidious and his previous iterations
@@pieroaliagabedoya1413 Zoankin is the state of anakin letting go of his restrictions against Dooku and letting his power release fully, post IH anakin is after the amp where he has grown past his pre IH self
@@bigwslyWoah GOAT! You seem to have more "versions" than me lol. For Anakin, I separate: - Base IH Anakin - IH Rage Amp Anakin (Zonakin) - Post IH Anakin. For ROTS Vader: - KFV (as he is from the Knightfall Operation, raiding the temple up until right after murdering the separatist leaders. - MFV (conflicted Vader, when he dueled Obi-Wan). Anyways, overall, we agree on everything regardless lol.
@@DarklightAlexEdits thank you so much my friend, it means a lot. Keep going with these edits. If I can make a request, I would love to see Darth Vindican vs Darth Maul
@@ahmedkhanfar4314Thanks for the support friend! Vindican is Malgus' master isn't it? Besides that, I don't really know much of him. I need to gather more knowledge about him!
Welcome then friend! I do scale both, Live Action and Comics. There's a playlist for each Marvel and DC videos, as well as one for Comics videos on my channel btw.
This channel has the best GOAT editor, great editing bro, excellent quality, Fax friend 🗿😎🔥 He asked me why there is so much difference in Legends when we compare Post IH Anakin with Knightfall Vader, you can do it now in Canon with the audio of the ROTS novelization
Thank you so much my friend! Always love seeing you here 😊 Vader got much stronger than Anakin was because of two things: his acceptance of and will to use the the Dark Side and Order 66 (who buffed the Dark Side itself as well as all users of it with each Jedi death).
@@DarklightAlexEdits Then he strengthened Sidious and Vader, thanks for the explanation friend, could you do a Mustafar Vader vs Anakin Skywalker Post IH (Canon Full Power)
@@pieroaliagabedoya1413Yep, that's right! Also, that's an interesting matchup. In Legends, it's a toss up, but in Canon, I firmly believe MFV is stronger.
@@DarklightAlexEdits I think that in the Canon, Mustafar Vader would have a lot of problems with Post IH Anakin, because they are in conflict, it would be a very close battle bro
If being extremely specific then yes, but IMO, it's almost irrelevant Battle Exp in comparison to what he already had. The temple had mostly non combatant Jedi, Padawans and Younglings. The more powerful and combat experienced Jedi were War Generals and where not in the temple. The stronger character there was Cin Drallig and he was defeated in a few seconds while Vader also choked one of his students. It's like saying I should give Exp to Vader as well because he's one day older lol. It's technically correct but is it really that significant to hold this against Anakin in a 1v1?
@@DarklightAlexEdits Well i suppose it depends on how you define battle exp, do u define it as how many battles he has fought or on the calibre of opponents, like you said Drallig would have been the toughest fight and from statements he is pretty strong, but Anakin at that point would have just been that guy lol. NFV doesn't need the extra point to win anyway
@@ryanbaker5296 I suppose it's more reasonable to define Battle IQ in a 1v1 as Battle Knowledge coupled with how well you can think in battle and how efficient you would be able to use that and your skills in a fight. One more day fighting against people you're stomping doesn't add to that IMO. Honestly, even if I gave every Skill and Experience to Anakin, he would still lose to Vader as overwhelming Power usually trumps over Skills.
@@ryanbaker5296 TLJ Kylo no doubt. He No-Low Diffs actually. He scales at least to ESB Vader as per statements and feats from the Kylo Ren Comics. Generally, in Canon, everyone from the OT are > PT and the ST scales to OT. As an example, in Canon, Prime Obi-Wan is ANH Ben Kenobi and Prime Vader is ROTJ Vader.
@@Angelo20093 Anakin was being manipulated since he was young and all of that manipulation was the culprit for him becoming Vader in the first place lol.
Thanks friend! But wdym? I've never heard such a thing before lol. I've always had an overwhelming positive community around, so I'm confused tbh. On the point of the video itself, KFV get's every single Physical and Force related points as he had a massive power boost. However, KFV and Post IH Anakin are still the same person and there's only one day of difference between each other. Points such as all Dueling Stats and IQ/Experience ones can't go to someone a day older, you know what I mean?
@@DarklightAlexEdits also where you scale comp sw? Btw kfv got a huge force amp so everything imo goes to him but IQ and allat bc well, self explanatory.
@@SonOfKhanargeDamn, that's harsh. I've seen him around here a couple of times and he never said anything of the sort to my face 🫤 Well, one more reason to keep myself away from Discord, as I barely use it anyways lol. I don't think I'm a BAD SW scaler (I'm no god Tier SW scaler either lol), but I'm fairly just in my takes, I think. I'm always using sources for everything as much as I can, as I'm no fan of guessworking in powerscaling. I hope people aren't judging me by my oldest takes as I do have a couple of wrong videos before I really got into the SW Powerscaling community (videos such as Legends Vader Vs Darth Revan (at the time, I thought Revan would win, but Vader scales much higher) and Malgus Vs IH Anakin (the Diff is too high) are wrong IMO). Nowadays, I do believe I'm much more accurate, so yeah, idk 🫤
@@SonOfKhanargeYeah, I agree! IMO, KFV got 2 amps. The same as Sidious with Order 66 and the Darkside getting stronger with each Jedi death + his true acceptance of the Darkside (as per the "Dragon" portion of the ROTS Novel). For comp SW, I believe it's at least Low Complex Multiversal as per the WBW. Could be higher but it's impossible to say. Lots of people will claim Outer or some extreme tiers like that (with arguments such as "Vader ripping dimensions"), but IMO, that's BS. The Tiering System is misused most of the time by people in general. Atm, only WBW Anakin would be Low Complex. Top tiers from Legends would scale between Solar System Level to Galaxy Level IMO.
@@DarthHide1234 darkside Anakin also known as Vader is not the chosen one. Anakin lived inside Vader the whole time after he showed up, and in rotj he came back and killed both Vader and Palpatine
W edit. I think Zonakin was a special case and more than a dark side amp so I scale him higher than post IH Anakin. It was a let go moment just like what Mustafar Kenobi did. Both let go their worries, fears, boundaries and whatever holding them back for reach a greater power. I think those two moments were parallel to each other and it's not surprising considering what a top-notch writer Matthew is. It was kinda irrelevant but just wanted to say lol.
You could scale Anakin like that, yeah.
I also do agree that Matthew is phenomenal as a writer as well.
And don't worry about it btw. I think your take is actually pretty nice on the matter. It was actually an interesting insight!
W edit bro
Thanks GOAT 🐐
Imo he mid diffs post IH anakin and ext diffs zonakin
I have Zonakin, senate palps and Yoda as basically equals and Unconflicted Mfv slightly above them
Big w edit as always
Friend, what is the difference between Zonakin and Post IH Anakin, I always wanted to know that, by the way, great bro, I follow you and watch your videos, always enjoying the quality 😎🔥
Interesting Scaling! I agree with basically everything with the exception that I scale KFV much higher than every Anakin version. Why? Let me explain lol.
So, as you know, IH Anakin went from equals with Dooku to stomping him with just a fraction of usage of the Dark Side.
IMO, after IH, Anakin was as powerful as his Zonakin self or slightly higher (not that this makes a difference for KFV but it's my scale on IH Rage Amped and Post IH Anakin lol).
KFV got 2 different amps, becoming stronger for 2 reasons:
1. He fully embraced the Darkside and let all his powers out using it (as the ROTS novel alludes with the Dragon portion of the novel).
2. Like Sidious, he got amped as the Darkside did, with each Jedi death.
To quantify KFV's massive advantage, look no further than Sidious himself as he got insanely more powerful between his Pre-O66 and Post-O66 selves. KFV got the same amp + his initial acceptance of the Darkside.
So, IMO:
KFV (Mid-High Diffs) > Post-O66 Sidious (High-Extreme Diffs) >= Senate Yoda (High Diffs) > Post IH Anakin (Extreme Diffs) > Zonakin.
@@DarklightAlexEdits that’s good scaling icl for me I had Zonakin above his post IH self so when he turns and raids the temple (KFV) I have him at the Zonakin state and when he gets his second powerful when laughing the separatists (MFV) as well as the sith eyes he’s above Yoda sidious and his previous iterations
@@pieroaliagabedoya1413 Zoankin is the state of anakin letting go of his restrictions against Dooku and letting his power release fully, post IH anakin is after the amp where he has grown past his pre IH self
@@bigwslyWoah GOAT! You seem to have more "versions" than me lol.
For Anakin, I separate:
- Base IH Anakin
- IH Rage Amp Anakin (Zonakin)
- Post IH Anakin.
For ROTS Vader:
- KFV (as he is from the Knightfall Operation, raiding the temple up until right after murdering the separatist leaders.
- MFV (conflicted Vader, when he dueled Obi-Wan).
Anyways, overall, we agree on everything regardless lol.
Real good!
Thanks William!
Underrated 🔥
I like the ghost shakes. 👍
Thank you friend 😊
There you are, early again haha! Nice!
That shake is definitely one of my favorites for sure!
@@DarklightAlexEdits I def recommend using it alot more dude, prob one of the greatest shakes you created so far.
@@ProductionsOfLemonI use it in almost all of my videos, though in different places 😅
Massive W edit🔥🔥🔥
Thanks bro 😊
Song name? Also W edit🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Thanks friend!
The song is called Distant Echoes by Narvent. It's the slowed down version btw.
@@DarklightAlexEdits thank you so much my friend, it means a lot. Keep going with these edits. If I can make a request, I would love to see Darth Vindican vs Darth Maul
@@ahmedkhanfar4314Thanks for the support friend! Vindican is Malgus' master isn't it? Besides that, I don't really know much of him. I need to gather more knowledge about him!
W GOAT as always also if this is rage amp Anakin this is should be Mid Diff but I'm absolutely agree with this one good job bro 😁
Thank you GOAT 🐐
Always appreciate you around!
Btw, IMO, Post IH Anakin is >= Rage Amp IH Anakin, but that's just me lol.
@@DarklightAlexEdits NP 👌
W edit
Thanks friend!
@@DarklightAlexEdits New to the channel, but do you scale marvel/dc at all?
Welcome then friend!
I do scale both, Live Action and Comics. There's a playlist for each Marvel and DC videos, as well as one for Comics videos on my channel btw.
Perfect!
Thanks friend 😊
This channel has the best GOAT editor, great editing bro, excellent quality, Fax friend 🗿😎🔥 He asked me why there is so much difference in Legends when we compare Post IH Anakin with Knightfall Vader, you can do it now in Canon with the audio of the ROTS novelization
Thank you so much my friend! Always love seeing you here 😊
Vader got much stronger than Anakin was because of two things: his acceptance of and will to use the the Dark Side and Order 66 (who buffed the Dark Side itself as well as all users of it with each Jedi death).
@@DarklightAlexEdits Then he strengthened Sidious and Vader, thanks for the explanation friend, could you do a Mustafar Vader vs Anakin Skywalker Post IH (Canon Full Power)
@@pieroaliagabedoya1413Yep, that's right!
Also, that's an interesting matchup. In Legends, it's a toss up, but in Canon, I firmly believe MFV is stronger.
@@DarklightAlexEdits I think that in the Canon, Mustafar Vader would have a lot of problems with Post IH Anakin, because they are in conflict, it would be a very close battle bro
@@pieroaliagabedoya1413I do think the same, but also believe MFV wins in Canon.
In Legends, I'm not really sure lol.
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Could you do Dark Empire Luke vs ROTJ Sidious?
Sidious >
The masterGOAT 🐐
I can, eventually!
@@Todd_1387 What? DE Luke defeated DE Sidious (who's Legends Prime Sidious). How would DE Luke lose to a much weaker Sidious? Lol.
@@DarklightAlexEdits i knew someone wil say that
He did not defeat him. Sidious killed himself by Force Storm, lol.
De Luke = Post IH Anakin victim.
@@Todd_1387 Wdym lol. Luke won the fight and the collection of all the Jedi dragged his Essence away so that he couldn't come back.
W Man
Thanks friend!
fire edit bro!
Thanks bro! Good to see you here as always!
WWWW 🔥
Thanks 🗿
@@DarklightAlexEdits❤
Unbelievable😢
Why? You didn't like it? 🥺
@@DarklightAlexEdits it's amazing 😢
@@_sm1leyface_Thanks! But why the 😢?
@@DarklightAlexEdits sorrow of happiness
Wow, that's kinda bittersweet to hear tbh!
Me inclino el sombrero ante ti eres un crack eres un papu
Gracías jaja 😊
Cómo lo dije antes me inclino ante ti caballero así que te mando un saludo@@DarklightAlexEdits
Fax KFV>>>
Thanks friend!
Actually My Fav Song Ngl
Understandable actually! All Narvent songs are GOATED IMO.
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knightfall vader sith eyes force vs darth vader rotj pre confliction, Please 🙏
Canon Darth Vader ROTJ wins mid dif
Legends KFV wins low-mid diff
Thanks but mid-high diff for knightfall vader because he take endurance be equal by darth vader rotj I think
There is no escape 🔥
I see what you did there lol. That's a Suited Vader quote!
@@DarklightAlexEdits yup and nice edit.can you make a video darth malgus vs luke ?
🎉🎉
YOU WILL NOT TAKE HER FROM ME
And he did, in fact, take her from himself 😅
@@DarklightAlexEdits YOURE WITH HIM!!! YOU BROUGHT HIM HERE TO KILL ME
"Let her go Anakin... Let. Her. Go!"
Hey is it ok if you do General grevious 2002 clone wars show vs ROTS obi won
mid to high huge w though
NF Vader would get battle EXP from destroying the temple
If being extremely specific then yes, but IMO, it's almost irrelevant Battle Exp in comparison to what he already had. The temple had mostly non combatant Jedi, Padawans and Younglings. The more powerful and combat experienced Jedi were War Generals and where not in the temple. The stronger character there was Cin Drallig and he was defeated in a few seconds while Vader also choked one of his students.
It's like saying I should give Exp to Vader as well because he's one day older lol. It's technically correct but is it really that significant to hold this against Anakin in a 1v1?
@@DarklightAlexEdits Well i suppose it depends on how you define battle exp, do u define it as how many battles he has fought or on the calibre of opponents, like you said Drallig would have been the toughest fight and from statements he is pretty strong, but Anakin at that point would have just been that guy lol.
NFV doesn't need the extra point to win anyway
@@ryanbaker5296 I suppose it's more reasonable to define Battle IQ in a 1v1 as Battle Knowledge coupled with how well you can think in battle and how efficient you would be able to use that and your skills in a fight. One more day fighting against people you're stomping doesn't add to that IMO.
Honestly, even if I gave every Skill and Experience to Anakin, he would still lose to Vader as overwhelming Power usually trumps over Skills.
@@DarklightAlexEdits Yeah, quick question AOTC Anakin vs TLJ Kylo who u got wining
@@ryanbaker5296 TLJ Kylo no doubt. He No-Low Diffs actually. He scales at least to ESB Vader as per statements and feats from the Kylo Ren Comics.
Generally, in Canon, everyone from the OT are > PT and the ST scales to OT.
As an example, in Canon, Prime Obi-Wan is ANH Ben Kenobi and Prime Vader is ROTJ Vader.
Me vs me
And it's the second time that happens. There's a Canon Suited Vader Vs Anakin already in the channel 😂
*LOL*
The man himself! How do you feel about defeating yourself Lord Vader?
@@DarklightAlexEdits So strange.
Iq and Battle iq Anakin
KFV is unconflicted Vader. He's not dumber here as he was in Mustafar.
@@DarklightAlexEdits Still he wasn't that smart and he was getting manipulated easily.
@@Angelo20093 Anakin was being manipulated since he was young and all of that manipulation was the culprit for him becoming Vader in the first place lol.
@@DarklightAlexEdits That's true but still imo Anakin is smarter.
Most things go to kfv tbh but dubs idk why people say you're the worst sw scaler
Thanks friend!
But wdym? I've never heard such a thing before lol. I've always had an overwhelming positive community around, so I'm confused tbh.
On the point of the video itself, KFV get's every single Physical and Force related points as he had a massive power boost. However, KFV and Post IH Anakin are still the same person and there's only one day of difference between each other. Points such as all Dueling Stats and IQ/Experience ones can't go to someone a day older, you know what I mean?
@@DarklightAlexEdits ik what you mean but people on discord like I think presence says you are when I have seen way worse
@@DarklightAlexEdits also where you scale comp sw? Btw kfv got a huge force amp so everything imo goes to him but IQ and allat bc well, self explanatory.
@@SonOfKhanargeDamn, that's harsh. I've seen him around here a couple of times and he never said anything of the sort to my face 🫤
Well, one more reason to keep myself away from Discord, as I barely use it anyways lol.
I don't think I'm a BAD SW scaler (I'm no god Tier SW scaler either lol), but I'm fairly just in my takes, I think. I'm always using sources for everything as much as I can, as I'm no fan of guessworking in powerscaling.
I hope people aren't judging me by my oldest takes as I do have a couple of wrong videos before I really got into the SW Powerscaling community (videos such as Legends Vader Vs Darth Revan (at the time, I thought Revan would win, but Vader scales much higher) and Malgus Vs IH Anakin (the Diff is too high) are wrong IMO). Nowadays, I do believe I'm much more accurate, so yeah, idk 🫤
@@SonOfKhanargeYeah, I agree!
IMO, KFV got 2 amps. The same as Sidious with Order 66 and the Darkside getting stronger with each Jedi death + his true acceptance of the Darkside (as per the "Dragon" portion of the ROTS Novel).
For comp SW, I believe it's at least Low Complex Multiversal as per the WBW. Could be higher but it's impossible to say. Lots of people will claim Outer or some extreme tiers like that (with arguments such as "Vader ripping dimensions"), but IMO, that's BS. The Tiering System is misused most of the time by people in general.
Atm, only WBW Anakin would be Low Complex. Top tiers from Legends would scale between Solar System Level to Galaxy Level IMO.
I love Anakin not knightfall vader
I Like Dark Him More Lmao.😅
@@DarthHide1234 darkside Anakin also known as Vader is not the chosen one. Anakin lived inside Vader the whole time after he showed up, and in rotj he came back and killed both Vader and Palpatine
@@Kalendarren Well That's True.