Why was General Grievous ACTUALLY Put in Charge of the Droid Army?
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Because the seperatists needed an enforcer someone who arguably also has a lot of war experience before the clone wars.They also needed a fear monger to the public to make the seperatists look even more threatening for the war to be justified.
Palpy needed a monster to make people embrace the Empire.
@@TheGoodLucI mean that was Dooku though.
@@creed8712 nah, grievous was the nightmare fuel behind the CIS
@@creed8712 grievous spread fear among the galaxy, while dooku persuaded the galaxy into joining the separatists
@@AccurateThings tell that to the Mahren
General grievous is still on the top of my favorite characters list for Star Wars and it never get old hearing you talk about him. Great work as always
Agreed.
Hello there.
Same I've always loved his character. Maul is my favorite but grev always been up there. I just wish we could explore his warrior past a bit more I felt like they could never agree on him in the movies and shows if he's supposed to be a badass Jedi slayer or if he's just this bumbling droid leader always falling short of victory because he's just not smart or strong enough 🤦🏻♂️ I wish they'd focused more on making him just an unstoppable killing machine with very little other emotions. Then his downfall could be more based from his propensity for battle. He fails because a true warrior has no place as a leader. A warrior cares not about victory overall and not about self preservation. A warrior who cares about finding the one opponent who can best them. Make him just a bit too focused on killing Jedi and that costs him some tactical victories the overall hurt their efforts in the war.. for example maybe he fucks up by refusing to recall his troops and instead pursuing a fight against a powerful Jedi. In the end he wins his trophy but he loses his units and the count is pissed AF lol. A true warrior like him would be so caviler with droid lives he'd be far too willing to sacrifice them for his own glory in battle. In my opinion a real warrior is without the kind of lack of integrity that wins a war like that. You can't fight a galactic droid war with honor. You're already using technology as soldiers and your superior production skills to keep control of the conflict. Only a truly heartless cold calculating commander could use this to it's full potential. You have a near infinite army of heartless killing bots that don't question orders or morality. To command them like such is to arrive at the fullest potential. A commander and army devoid of feelings would be the ultimate military. Not afraid to loose tactically when needed. Not afraid of dishonor or sacrificing troops or sacrificing a victory. A fully connected hive mind military with only the overall goal in mind. It doesn't matter what it takes as long as in the end victory is achieved within the laid out goal. Ultimately it held back the droid army having living beings in command. Especially when we're talking about people like grievous and ventres and even maul. They're all warriors who allow their emotions to effect their decisions. Evil and ruthless yes but not emotionless. A warrior is different from a great soldier. A soldier follows orders. A warrior cares only about glory through adversity. Willing to risk it all for the glory of a victory of a worthy opponent..
General grievous. A character so badass got nerfed by Lucas.
A good man, but yeah, his nostalgia for Flash Gordon shenanigans is a bit obsolete for this day and age.
Yeah, Grievous got hit hard by the nerf bat.
Also counterintuitive to the point of Grievious, being the jedi exterminator. I miss when characters were written to be competent.
they took the nerfs way too far honestly
Windu had to nerf him.
IMO, another good candidate for Supreme Commander was Alto Stratus. He was brilliant tactician, he won the hearts and minds of his people and wasn’t afraid to get his hands dirty. Hell, he fought against Jedi Generals with a regular sword. Not even a vibroblade!
Good thing he fought too much in danger close.
Yeah but a nationalist identity wouldn't have worked well for their long term plans. Grievous didn't give two shits about the Confederacy of Independent Systems, in fact he distinctly hated it, he just considered it a means to an end which is what made him perfect for the job.
Once the Confederacy had outlived its usefulness he would've been happy to watch it crumble. Alto probably would've been far less likely to go along with that.
Not to mention that his Nimbus Commandos were one of the few units the Separatists had on par in skill with Clone Commandos. They were foot soldiers but managed to bring down first-generation AT-AT walkers on their homeworld during the war. Stratus himself not only fought a Jedi General with a regular sword but also killed her; then was defeated by her Padawan, but still.
The Sith needed someone the republic feared and hated and who hated the jedi enough to follow their plan. Alto Stratus being loved by his men is rather a disadvantage regarding the Sith and their grand plan.
Apart from the CIS were never meant to win the war, nor did they want someone either to humanise the CIS movement nor that even CIS worlds themselves liked
By making Grievous a monster, Shiev could propagandise his death and slaughter
I think we should get a Grievous show, he is one of the most unique characters in Star Wars with a interesting backstory.
I’d love a prequel show of before he turned into a cyborg, and casual fans wouldn’t know who it was until the end
I absolutely agree!
Sadly Filoni dosent like the chatacter so we will most likly not get that.
nah man, I want a Maul series
@@zekekennedy9180 why not both?
I would love to see that Durge and Assaj VS Grievous fight in an animated form. Perhaps in the 2D cartoon style where all 3 are featured so iconically.
Do you mean to say "iconically?"
@@bluehero-96 Uh, yes. Must have missed that one. I blame autocorrect once again.
I agree. Durge, Asajj, and Grievous are friggin beasts in the 2D series. In 3D, Durge just doesn't exist and Asajj, although got a good redemption arc, was kinda weak, and same with Grievous, although him slaughtering the Night sisters does make up for it.
I love the CIS as an organization. A literal unstoppable war machine only hindered by the puppet master behind the scenes.
Yeah but the war machine aspect of the CIS was only possible because of the “puppet master” purposefully making the war as big as possible.
Until they no longer served a use to him, and got shut down.
Separatists: General Grievous IS the six million credit Kaleesh.
Obi-Wan: Well, I guess six million credits doesn't buy what it used to.
It made sense in the OG cartoon but the current cannon the best thing I can think of is that he looks scary abd is just competent enough to not seem like he was set up to fail
Nah it's only in the clone wars he looks pretty pathetic. Elsewhere he is always depicted as a force to be reckoned with
I think people are too hard on Lucas, but his decision to make Grevious into coward was the wrong direction to take. Even toddler Ahsoka wasn't even scared of him.
Even the inferior Rebels shows had more threatening villains with the Grand Inquisitor, Vader, and Thawn.
I heard a theory that the real greivous was too competent so dooku and palps stuffed him in storage somewhere and found a suitably incompetent replacement lookalike possibly brainwashed to be greivous. The other theory is similarly dooku deliberately hamstrung Greivous and gave him impossible missions and incompetent subordinates not to mention the military structure of thr CIS was a mess from start to finish. Take your pick which I lean towards a combination of all 3
@@shanoncg I've heard that
George Lucas explicitly wanted Grevious toned down, so that he wouldn't eclipse Darth Vader as a jedi-killing threat.
@@badluck5647 Dude, are you seriously comparing that kiddie show to The Clone Wars? Vader failed at stopping f*cking Ezra Bridger and Kanan! Where Grievous is able to hold his own against the entire clone army and war hardened jedi masters, Vader, the Grand Inquisitor and Co failed at stopping a tiny rebel group despite having the entire Imperial might at their disposal. The rebels villains are nothing but pathetic.
It still pains me to this day to think of how canon grievous was made into a complete joke. His legends material makes him one of the best and most fascinating characters in the SW universe.
You don't have to believe in canon most of disney's canon is trash anyway. I take the parts of disney's canon I like which isn't much and keep all of the original canon.
Compared to disneys pathetic cartoon villains, he is an awesome villain in the clone wars.
It didn't help that he was constantly going against people he couldn't kill (time-line shenanigans) so any apperance he had constantly had him losing.
Remove the child rating, and give him targets that aren't plot armored, and I feel we would have seen a far more ruthless and successful villain.
Veamos el lado bueno; Grievous sigue siendo más intrigante e interesante qué Amitage Hux.
0:34 Best-Portrait-Ever. Also I would possibly give Admiral Trench a chance, I would see him atleast train with using an electrostaff for combat purposes. But even tho Trench lacks close combat skills, he still has a formidable mind in the battlefront, making him a not so bad rival to Grievous...
Trench was certainly competent enough especially by CIS standards. He unfortunately kept running into Annakin and his plot armor lol
@@lordgod9958 I say again from my primary statement, imagine Trench trained good, and I mean real good, with and electro staff in order for him to stand up almost perfectly against anyone with a lightsaber (of course there’s still the force but many other have stood up to that), I would think that Trench would have more of a competent chance than just strategizing the battles from a ship command deck>>>
I really like that take on each embodying a different part of Vader. Love to hear a deeper dive on that
So maul was the young acrobat Vader, and there is a shadow of anakin in episode one that fore shadows him looking like darth Vader walking away.
Count dooku is Vader when he is old, slight movements, leader, and more powerful in the force.
And grevious is the robotics embodied in Vader suit.
There are actual several seasons in the prequals where the shadow of anakin is darth Vader.
Episode one anakin walking away from his mother rhe casts a brief shadow on the wall.
There is also one in episode 2 where anakin and padma are standing together and you can see the Vader as the shadow reaching out to her.
I also thought he was put in charge as in legends, he and his people of Kalee were driven back by the Republic and Jedi as they helped the Huks and blowed devastating damage to the Kalee and also because he was manipulated into thinking the Jedi were responsible for his near death and was offered by San Hill to upgrade him to his cybernetics and take his revenge against the Jedi
( Ps No one has a more tragic backstory than Grievous, he will always be my all time favorite)
Yeah, no one has a more tragic backstory, except for that guy that grew up as a slave, became an ostracized member of an order of space wizards/Buddhist monks, lost his mother and wife in the span of a few years, was tricked into murdering his entire order by an old man in a bathrobe, was beaten by his best friend and burned alive, had to live for twenty years in a wearable Iron Lung as the old man's servant, found his son years later but was unable to bond with him due to his reputation as a monster, and only managed to do so after dooming himself to death. I mean, Grievous is tragic too, don't get me wrong, but Vader's entire life was a giant kick in the balls.
And here we see just how much of a gigachad General Grevious is. The greatest leader the Separatists had, not much of a challenge with so few being in any way competent. Trench, Riff Tamson, and Alto Stratus are three great examples of great Separatist leaders, just not as great as Grevious is. Close, just not close enough.
I'd say they were better leaders just not what fitted the CIS's purposes.
Alto Stratus was a serious nationalist and the CIS was really just intended as a means to an end. Once it had outlived its usefulness it would've been left to collapse and Alto Stratus likely would've had issues with that. Grievous was perfect for this because he didn't care about the CIS, he very much hated it, and would've laughed as it inevitably tore itself in half.
Trench was an amazing strategist and absolutely ruthless but he wasn't a combatant he was an admiral. He wasn't the jedi killer that Grievous was and he could be too egotistical for his own good at times.
And as for Riff Tamson he was sadistic and loyal to Count Dooku but he was also best suited for undersea warfare so his actual functionality was limited.
Be nice if we got a stand-alone animated series about the good General.
I suspect Grievouses mostly blunt and simplistic battle tactics were mostly a product of the days he spent fighting the Huk. By all accounts, and logic, it was a guerilla war campaign, and most likely remained as such even when they started their revenge offensive in space.
If it was Legends/Gendy Grievous then he deserved to be in command. Filloni Grievous would be a number 2 at best behind Trench
Yeah, at least the filoni version is better than nothing. But I would imagine how grim dark the clone wars would've really been had the legends content been incorpated.
@@merafirewing6591 I'd argue that "nothing" is a better version than what Filoni made. I'd rather have had him not touch Grievous at all in TCW.
@@bouncin2207 yeah he went from a badass jedi killer to getting his fade ran by gungans though they at least gave a reason for the more cowardly grievous with his lungs getting crushed by windu making him way weaker
On the other hand, Trench was mainly a naval officer so his ability to command ground offensives would be questionable at best. Not to mention his express inability to stand face to face against Jedi. It was after all the preferred tactic of the Jedi to use their superior skills and Force power for infiltrating Separatist armies and taking out the commanding officer.
It never helped that Grievous was constantly thrown against people he wasn't allowed to kill.
Give him his own series, move the child rating, and pit him against those without plot armor, and I have a feeling we would see the monster return to glory.
It is at this point that the Sith Grand Plan is what truly started but also stopped Grievous from bringing the final blow that will force the Republic to comply to the Separatists demands.
Also, if Sev'rance Tann did not die and remain the Supreme Commander of the Droids Army, how will this affect the war as a whole?
Because at the time, Dooku didn’t realize Grievous was too short for the job.
You know what kind of video I'd love to see? A ranking of who you believe are the top ten commanders/tacticians in Star Wars, whether they are Republic, Separatist, Imperial, Jedi, Sith, etc. I'm sure Grievous would place somewhere in there, alongside Thrawn and Anakin/Vader.
That would be an awesome video! Thrawn has to take number one, for sure. Grievous would certainly be on that list, though.
I need more grievous simping in my life
He beat both Durge and Ventris in single combat and he is neither a force user nor thousands of years old. That said, the reason he was a good choice for General was his history as a commander of the Kaleesh people.
He must have had a bad case of the Fetts when he fought Obi-wan then
@@creed8712 Mace Windu damaged his core with the force.
@@Amadeus8484 Yes this is primarily the reason he wasn't much of a match for Kenobi and also wasn't as effective as he could have been in the clone wars.
@@rmcgowa1987 Lucas also complained that he was overpowered so they nerfed him. Which I thought was stupid, I liked Grievous the way he was.
@@Amadeus8484 Lucas quite clearly nerfed Darth Maul as well he took on both Obi Wan and Qui Gon Gin without breaking a sweat only to lose to Obi Wan because he didn't block or dodge an obvious counter attack?
Whenever you guys upload a grievous video: -More. Mooore!!
I feel like you have covers everything about the CW, more imperial area video’s would be very welcome
Asaj Ventress.... That's surprising to hear.. seeing as what they decided to do with her ultimately... Now what IF we'd gotten a modified version of her becoming inflicted HOWEVER she's ALSO CIS Supreme Commander.. imagine how much THAT'D change the story. Sounds like an alternate reality video idea
Sev’rance Tann is my favorite CIS character. It’s too bad she only existed in a video game and not TCW or a movie screen
While I'd love to hear more about her, to me even just the concept of her character sounds like too much of a Thrawn fanfic. Like why does she have to be Chiss AND be doing the same thing as Thrawn. Like if we have to bring in another prominent Chiss to the Star Wars universe, spice it up from "very smart powerful general person" like if she's force sensitive she could have been more Ventress' style of character to contrast the character of Thrawn, not copy it outright
I'd also like to know why an dhow her name doesn't follow conventional Chiss naming structure.
It also certainly helps that compared to a lot of separatist commanders Grievous was overkill and an absolute psychopath. Most separatist commanders would probably win a battle, take the spoils, and leave it at that. Grievous is the kind of general who after winning would carpet bomb an entire planet just for inconveniencing him... or carpet bomb a planet just because he felt like it...
Anything resembling the proud warrior he once was had since been reduced to ashes by a sadist who wanted nothing more than to make his enemies suffer for his own amusement.
The question is how did the Republic even last 25k years instead of falling down in say 1,000 years?
Some civilizations are just like that. Rome lasted about 1,000 years... 2,000 if we include the Eastern Roman Empire... But it also couldn't go more than 10 years without a civil war and politically was an absolute dumpster fire.
Because as much as it was weak, it was also strong. The people would keep reviving and rebuilding the Republic.
I suppose the values of the Republic were strong enough to keep the Republic and it's allies stable and loyal.
Since we don’t know the full history of the republic for new cannon it’s hard to say.
Legends cannon puts into questions how anything ever got done when at most they had 1,000 years of no galaxy wide war. Of course there was a number of smaller battles and conflicts happening all the time but nothing as big as the Sith war which was basically 7 wars on one planet
This Grevious sounds WAY to badass to be canon Grevious. Must be Legends.
Both were canon until disney clone wars Grievous wasn't as effective due to a major injury caused by Mace Windu.
I would love to see a cyborg with it’s own Shields
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In the RoTS novelization, Grievous was basically (in Dooku’s eyes) the fall guy, so all the war crimes could be blamed on the inhuman cyborg run amok, while the honorable Dooku was powerless to stop him. As far as Sidious was concerned he was just an attack dog that would be put down after causing enough chaos
When you can put a Gend'hai in bacta it's an impressive success...
So wait if Grevious represented the whole more machine then man aspect of Vader, what did the other two(Maul and Dooku) represent?
Also, is that image at 5:12-5:18 fanmade? And if so was it made before or after the Padawan arc from Season 5 of the Clone Wars, because if before then that means some used that image as inspiration for Grevious using three blue blades and one green blade, instead of doing two and two.
Dooku was a pawn used as a means to an end by an uncaring master only to be discarded when he was no longer useful.
Maul was a vicious killer driven by rage, so much that he refused to die even when bisected.
@@CollinMcLean maul was a slave to the dark side. A slave to his master, to his emotions, and to his ego.
Dooku was a Jedi who became disillusioned from the Jedi and turned to the dark side.
You said dooku was a slave to an uncaring master.. but that doesn't count as a dooku quality because both him and maul served an uncaring master: Palpatine.
So many elements of maul, dooku and Grievous apply to Vader.
If you put Grievous, Dooku, and Maul together you get Darth Vader.
@@theblasteffect4499that’s true, except I think that the three are all more flexible/ able to move faster than Vader. No offense to Vader, he could fast when he needed to be I guess.
@@kingbubbafatt9945 those Don't affect the symbolism
Dooku - Fallen Jedi
Maul - Pure Hatred
Grievous - Cruel cyborg with breathing problems
Hey man great vid!
Yes please! Literally as much Grievous as you can give us!
Grievous as a commander has won many engagements against the Republic in the legends. He was dumbed down by Filoni for his childish Clone Wars animated series, but the legends version of Grievous is far more complex. The second year of the Clone Wars was the worst for the Republic as the organization went from full offensive, to defensive in just a year.
The whole conflict taking a huge toll on the clone army, Anakin's relashionship with Padmé, and his training with Obi-Wan which was told 10× better in the legends than in the animated shows.
In the animated shows, the Republic won all engagements, Anakin saves the day, Grievoud and the CIS was dumbed down for the audiences🤮. Filoni should had never been allowed to tamper with the Clone Wars story after that disastrous 2008 movie which was also a box office bomb.
I guess you don't remember episode 3. That was when he was made less than he was in 03. And it was solely because George didn't like that he was a relatable or tragic character. In his view, he didn't want another Vader.
Let's be real, if George Lucas wanted Dave Filoni to make Grievous like Genndy Tartakovsky did, he would do it.
The clone wars TV series was clearly told through the lens of Republic propaganda.
The clone wars TV series got an entire new generation into Star Wars and continues to do so considering it's literally why my kid likes star wars.
The "movie" was 3 semi related episodes stitched together to get kids excited to watch the TV series.
Go jerk off to the expertly written OT with superb dialogue another 100 times.
@@marrqi7wini54 It's not about Grievous being an incapable jedi killer though, Filoni made him into an inconpetent commander as well. And he generally depicted the entire war very poorly and unrealistically.
@@bouncin2207 exactly...The real gold is there in the legends books. Notice the Republic's real problems when they couldn't find the CIS leadership as it was so elusive. The Sith Lords conspiring from behind the scenes to end dangerous cults around the Galaxy as well as to unleash old weapons from the Jedi Civil War thousands of years ago.
So much gold in the legends that you can tell the authors took their time to make the Clone Wars as dark as it could be. Filoni just made a show for kids and continues to inject the same formula into the current series that aired already.
@@eddieram435 I think your forgetting about the fact that the clone wars series used to be part of old canon the reason Grievous is nowhere near as good in the clone wars series is because of clone wars 2003 where he receives a major injury from Mace Windu. Mace Windu force crushed his lungs that would ruin anyone's effectiveness. It would outright kill most people.
I disagree that Grievous is not on Thrawn's level.
Sure there is a concensus that Thrawn is the very best when it comes to warfare, and I agree, but there are still those who could match him and Grievous is easily one of the few, along with Ackbar, Trench, Vader and some others you may name.
Here are my arguments for Grievous:
-Tasked with protecting the entire CIS council during the last stage of the war
-Born in war and was immensely successful in leading his people against the Huk
-Had barely any defeats (stated by Dooku)
-Specifically picked as Supreme Commander by Sidious and Dooku for his success as a warlord
-Operation Durge's lance
-Kidnapping Palpatine (pretty much mission impossible if it wasn't for Sidious helping him out)
-"He is the evil genius of the Confederacy. The architect of their victories. The author of their atrocities."
(RotS novelization)
There is also the not too distant possibility that Grievous was tasked with defending the Separatist Council because he could and would also swiftly eliminate them - which Vader later ends up doing - once there was no more need for the Confederacy. That said, in the now Legends novel Outbound Flight, Thrawn used the en masse tactics of a droid force against it to defeat a Trade Federation fleet that included 2 Lucrehulk-class battleships, with only 3 light cruisers and a single fighter squadron through the means of advanced electronic warfare successfully deducing the weaknesses of the back then centrally controlled droid fighters. So if put against Grievous who mainly relied on overwhelming numbers, he would've still won through a similar pattern. To provide a historical comparison, if commanders like Grievous and Pong Krell led like Grant, Thrawn led like Napoleon--- who to this day remains the single most successful military leader of human history.
@@balintkovacs4089 Grievous would not eliminate the CIS council since he was loyal to the CIS cause. If Kenobi failed to kill Grievous, Vader would have to fight him on Mustafar.
Grievous did not rely on overwhelming numbers, that's just a big part of how the droid army worked. In fact, his tactics would surprise the Republic because of how effectively he utilized his droids (battle of Hypori for instance), there are many different battle droid types for a reason.
Thrawn would win like 6/10 times against Grievous. And comparing Krell to him is nonsense, the guy was not even loyal to the side he fought for.
@@bouncin2207 Your first point is void since the video itself states that Grievous held no love nor loyalty for the cause of the CIS and would've happily watched it burn with the rise of the Empire it if meant he got to kill more Jedi.
Relying on overwhelming numbers and making efficient use of the various traits the different droid types had do not exclude one another. One could both capitalise on the overall superior numbers while retaining the tactical value of different units. Having a large force in itself only means you have more room for error and/casualties as they are easier to replace.
Motivation aside, it is still fact that Krell and Grievous had a very similar tactical scale approach to most engagements, even if Grievous did do so as part of a more encompassing faction scale strategy. And both of them have a very different commanding style to Ulysses Grant, whose main pillar of tactical decisions was also his awareness of having more troops than the enemy.
One thing that people often forget about Thrawn is that he shone the brightest when he had trusting and competent subordinates to work with. As such, being in the command of say, a Chiss fleet would easily tilt the odds in his favour in the decisive majority of cases. But even with a Republic fleet, he would construct his battle plans around unorthodox usage of his forces, against which the droid officers serving under Grievous would prove ineffective, and he isn't the type to personally take charge of every motion of every unit in a battle like Thrawn would-- hence my comparison of him to Napoleon, who also made a prominent point in personally overseeing as many aspects of his battles as possible.
@@balintkovacs4089 The video is wrong. Grievous hated the Jedi and the Republic, he joined the war to bring both of them down. I'm not saying he was some patriot or something and that he would give his life to protect the cause, but his goals aligned with the goals of the CIS, he would not betray them and he would definitely not fight for the Empire that would become even worse than the Republic.
How to defeat the droid army; create any weapon that fires in a straight line. Those beam turrets off the larty’s mounted on the ground would decimate droids by the hundred probably. You could have one of those sweeping the wall of death like it’s a tower defense game lol.
Great vid 👍
Awesome video bro
Grievous is the toppler of nations, the slayer of kings and the murderer of legends! Who else could possibly dare to challenge him.
Yes please do more videos of grievous and a long one!!!
2003 Grievous will always be the best. ^^
Don't mind either version.
5:21 idk man that sounds like a approach to something different right there...
Greivous is for sure my favorite lightsaber character. I can say more but I'll leave it at that.
Always love General Grievous content!
I wish they would have a show bases from his point of view from his pre cyborg life to things like operation durges lance
Grievous is my favourite character from Star wars....I would like morr content about him ^^
I think it’s more likely that although Grievous was the figurehead of the CIS Military, it’s much more likely there was a Joint Chief of Staff (like any other sophisticated military) and Grievous was mainly in charge of the Army. I don’t see Dooku (let alone Sidious) sidelining someone like Trench be a mere Admiral and he was most likely in charge of the Navy
dooku, having grievous turned into a droid abomination: lol wouldn't it be fucked up if we gave it asthma?
What if the republic never got rid of the military they had during the old republic and still had em into when the phantom menace started
This is Canon for me! Yes I want to see more Grievous videos! He is my favorite character!
Grievous would fit right in on the Soviet General Staff. Heavy use of misdirection, complex strategy but brutally simple at the tactical level, and refusing to reinforce failure.
Traditions alive and well in the Russian Armed Forces. Notice they didn't throw good money after bad at Kiev or Kherson. I'm surprised they kept the gloves on as long as they did before crushing Ukraine's infrastructure in the last month or two.
Would not have used him - but then again I'd fight to win if I were in the CIS (and knowing who and what Palps is and who Count Dooku is, I'd try to take him out, so that Sidious loses his direct connection into the CIS-Leadership!), so terror is useless (I am NOT Tarkin, damned!)...give me Admiral Trench and give HIM the Malevolence :)
I would really like to see a more in depth video focusing on Grievous!
If the Confederacy had actually wanted to prove itself to have the moral high ground in the Clone War. Merai would be someone that should have been given the title of the Supreme Commander of the Confederate Droid Military as she actually believed in the ideology of the Separatist cause (What Dooku espoused publicly) and saw the droids actually comrades in arms.
Just like many Military forces in the real world that choose commander on how big their Pokemon Card collection. That man's balling Light saber collection make him the clear choice
3:17 who’s the droid General Grievous is consulting?
How can people possibly think Grievus was bad? Look at the color of his lightsabers! "Blue or Green, they're on the team"
The thing that makes all this moot is that the CIS was NEVER SUPPOSED TO WIN. It didnt matter who was in charge or what tactics they would've instituted.
Can you do a vid going in detail regarding how did grevious cybernetic body operate how could his organic brain and heart still operate without oxygen as he no longer had a conventional mouth could he even breath or sleep at all?
The most impressive thing about Grievous in my opinion is how calm an individual he was. (I am sure you are either confused or think I'm joking but hear me out.)
Imagine being in his shoes: You can no longer feel the touch of another being, thus no chance of love, you cannot properly eat, sleep, or rest (most likely because you don't need to but that dose not mean it leaves you undamaged mentally), you cannot enjoy things like delicate food, tea or drinks, you are forced to put up with an annoying cough and the ONLY thing left for you to actually enjoy is to collect trophies from your enemy. (it is rather easily noticeable that he rarely had a sense of humor at all. Such a thing needs one to feel good for any reason and for him it would be because he is bound to get a new trophy.)
All those things affect the mind a lot, and for those like myself that play RTS and have experienced even just one of the above have noticed that it highly affects performance. Now look at all the things Grievous did despite this to reform the CIS military as well as some of his more restrained tactics and will see what I meant when I said "calm".
He's a great character. He should have (temporarily at least) gotten the upper hand more often to show us how dangerous he was.
My guess prior to watching: He was the perfect leader... for Palpatine’s goals. He was skilled and experienced enough as a commander as proven during his campaign’s during the Hux war, but there were better commanders than him, and his skill wasn’t why he was chosen. He was a propaganda tool, a war crime committing cyborg at the head of a droid army, and as a Jedi killer he made them seem weak, ineffective. He vilified the separatist movement while posing enough of a threat for Palpatine to further push for more emergency powers, exactly as planned.
Grievous and Maul are goated
Could be argued the retreat strat came from who was often commanding Republic forces.. jedi. Greivous's main strategy when dealing with Jedi was to overwhelm them with fear. A jedi (and in the case of leading actual armies were typically masters) once broken by fear were far easier targets. If the initial plan didnt work, the unbroken jedi would use literal magic and could devastate the CIS forces, so retreat and try again later.
I still feel that one of the biggest mistakes in Star Wars was making Grievous weaker. In the 2003 mini series, which was technically his first appearance, he was literally so strong and terrifying that his rank needed no justification💯
Please say more about the apprentice tiers and Darrh Vader
Awesome idea for a video. More separatist content please!
Grievous thought like a droid. Makes sense.
Not really he wasn't limited in thought like a t series and could fight somewhat effectively unlike a super tactical droid.
I think it's always worth noting whenever discussing the Clone Wars, that the CIS was essentially a puppet of Sidious and the army was created to lose the war.
Palpatine needed a villain for the Republic to unite against. The Neimodians were schemers and corporate thieves, but their adorable faces made them hard to hate!
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You can never get too much Grievous
Love seeing art from star wars legion
4:58 general grant be like
Because he's a massive clanka!
Am not in this war for dooku politics Am the leader of the most popular droid army the galaxy as ever seen
because palpatine needed an alien to make all other aliens look bad so he could point the fight against a single group this also helped the empire
3:19 Where is this comic panel from???
Wait… Grievous was able to beat Durge?! The near immortal bounty hunter that had to be thrown into a sun to be killed?! That one?! Jesus… legends Grievous is a whole different animal. I would kill to see that fight animated
Whatever that fight was i am sure it wouldn't be less than PG 21
Crazy how those Jedi who got massacred by Grievous could've instantly gotten the upper hand if they just crushes his lungs with the force 💀
No need for me to know more Grievous. All I want are videos about the lives and careers of Keyan Farlander, Maarek Stele, and Ace Azzameen.
Also, Star Wars military operations with really cool names... and really bad ones.
General Grievous was put in charge because the separatist was never meant to win and Grievous was competent enough to be threating but incompetent enough to not actually be a threat.
6:43 and yet the clone wars couldn't be bothered to give him any wins that actually meant anything against the republic.
Yes
Grievous was such a great villain and the only one to kill more Jedi than Vader
So many good clone wars bad guys ....anybody else wish they did more with durge?
I think Dooku was a perfect foil for Anakin on a lot of levels
8:58 Ok, I get that Grievous represents being more machine then man, and Count Dooku was a fallen Jedi, but what exactly is Maul's parellel to Vader. The only thing I can really think about is Maul being a killer, with Maul's murder of Qui-gon parelleing Vader's murder of Obi-Wan. Though I wouldn't say that is any more extreme than Vader's actions.
Maul and Vader = Hatred and Anger
Intresting
Its a shame Disney has a knack for making any antagonists into bumbling failures except for Rogue One. Wouldve been cool to see Grevious actually win a bit
They recruited 2003 grievous, and ended up with 2005 Grievous
Well goddamn. The fact that he put **DURGE** of all people in the Bacta tanks says a lot
An impressive feat although it is debatable how wise it was to judge the abilities of the supreme commander of your army based on individual fighting ability rather than leadership skills. Which proved to be Grievous' biggest weakness when faced against more unorthodox commanders on the Republic side. He always wanted to get too personal in a battle; thus being easy to bait and outflank. To quote the Warhammer 40K meme "Drive the tank closer, I want to hit them with my sword".
Making Grievous supreme commander makes sense for the overall plan Palpatine set up. Make the enemy ferocious and viewed as evil to unify the Galaxy for the Empire's proposed peace. He was able to win campaigns but not the war which was part of the goal. The Separatists were meant to lose so why put the A+ person in who could win when the B person can achieve the goal.
Grievous gets 4 armed awesome cyborg suit
Vader: let's go see what's left in dumpster 🤖
Where's the sources for this OMFL I wanna check out the material about this chiss force sensitive general before grievous
What do Dooku and Ventress represent about Vader?
6:41 grievous is grant
What aspects of Vader did the other two embrace?