To everyone reading this for clarification: Hmong is a SUBGROUP of Miao. Miao consists of multiple subgroups such as Hmong, Hmu, Xong, and etc. with their own dialects and languages that share common traditions, culture, and languages (even though we might not understand each other to a certain degree). The Hmong/Mong people outside of China are PROBABLY descendants of the Hmong people in Yunnan province of China as they have the same or similar traditions and practices as the Hmong/Mong people outside of China. That's all I have to share. Search it up, research it up. There are lots of things I don't know, but I mostly know which is true or not through common sense and logic around these topics or any topic. If I'm not sure, I wouldn't take it as fact yet until proven. But anyways, that is all.
Coming from Hmong-American's perspective: I was taught Miao was offensive word when I was younger from the elders who became Hmong refugees from Laos Secret war and the Vietnam war. Yes, We are subgroup and part of Miao groups that CCP decide to lump us with other ethnicity& minority groups back in 1950s&1960s which I believe now in mainland china is definitely are changing as more modernize and seeing the differences between cultures and languages. After deep research on the internet and and confirm one of our own Hmong Tribes in China: Miao (苗)means in Mandarin= "Wheat Seeds". The Chinese characters of 苗 (Miao) the top of letter (One line with two little lines represent the "Ox") The bottom letter (square shape represent the fields hence the showing a picture of "fields.") I fully understand the word Miao (苗) means Wheat Seeds, and not offended anymore. The Han Chinese people acknowledge that we are first Hmong people to farm the lands in China before the Han Chinese people did. Proof here>ruclips.net/video/UV1dwEU_-Qc/видео.html Yang Geli (Hmong Chinese Singer/Actor) did a great job explaining it. In end, we all Hmong and I hope we both Hmong from China and Hmong from other countries untied as one and shared one majority experiences. Also, Jehanne de Biolley did amazing job to study the textiles because it will bring interest from the west and let us hope the textiles can be persevere in next 100 years or so.
I was born in laos but grew up in thailand so when I went to thai school in the 1980 or 90 thai teachers still called us Miao. we have no problem with that because we didn't know who change Miao to Hmong and when and why so either name is fine with me but the word Miao is known all over Asia but Hmong is only known to the West and a few countries in south asia like vietnam laos thai and cambodia, not in Burma yet!
Thanks for sharing. I too believe that our pajntaub flowery clothes contain our history, science, mathematics and arts. I have been trying to start a charter school here in MInnesota, USA to do just that. Thanks James and the crew for sharing.
Mong was a place in the region before China. It's hard to understand but think of it as historical people like Incas or Aztec. We know they exist but have long been gone from their original location.
We used to be called Miao in thailand and laos but when vietnam and laos become French territory and control, the French wanted to divide or saperated the Miao in laos and thailand Vietnam from the Miao in china, The French rename us as Hmong not Miao anymore so that the chinese can not expand their territory toward south otherwise the chinese will go anywhere or after the Miao down south and get more land from Southeast Asia. we just change from Miao to Hmong in laos from Dr. Yang dao and couple of French missionaries with the laos govt controlled by French. my great great grandfather told us one generation to another untill now we're absolutely 100% Miao
Mong was a place that exist before China; Our ancestor are the Xiongnu/relating to the Mongols of Chinggis Khan; in fact Mong have fought in both sides of many conflicts in present day China. The 'H' was added to Hmong during the Vietnam war because we didn't want to be call Miao due to a vast minority sub-group of China. We know who we are and our path comes from north Vietnam (sapa); into Laos (XiengKhoua) and finally into the USA/France and other places around the world. We know who we are; China is still our heart
The debate whether we are Miao or Hmong which I see a lot in this vdo and others is one of contentious to me. I am one that is very passionate and hardcore and every time i heard people calling us Miao is an insult. I very much like to say to the film maker of this video that please do not call us Miao. Wherever we are on this earth we are always known as “Hmong”. Let me suggest to the film maker, please go ask the people in your film in their mother tongue what do you call yourself. Do not ask them in English or Chinese rather ask these people in their language. I bet it’s not Miao. I will defend the Hmong name to my last breath and that’s how passionate I am. Let me give you, the film maker an example . I am known as John and you always call me Jack, don’t you think that’s an insult? I’d even go further, that is derogatory. Please stop! Your film is of the highest standard but please use the “Hmong” name. We fought for our existence since the beginning of time in every country we been to is because we want to get rid of the name “Miao”. I have a dream just like MLK. That one day, you all will call us “Hmong”. Thank you!
You identify as Hmong and the people in China as Miao. I don't see why you're here on a video about them crying about wanting to be called Hmong when its not a video about you lmao.
No it’s not a racist name. Please don’t make that up. The fact that you said that it’s “given by the Chinese people” which means you don’t even know what that means. If you were misinformed, then please relearn. If you’re just stating it by just stating it, then please stop making it up. You’re making an embarrassment to the rest of us. You’re not the only Hmong person.
@@kamenriderpm1114 Miao/苗/猫 is a racist name! That is given by the Qing/Ching and Ming Dynasties. Go look it up! Our real name is 盟族. If you're Chinese, maybe you're ignorant about our people.
@@KevinVang1000 that’s not proof. You’re not even Hmong and you’re clearly not Chinese. There’s no such thing as 盟族. 苗 and 猫aren’t not the same word. No one from China and/or those who speaks Chinese will say that they’re the same words. If you claim that you know Chinese, then you’re lying. They’re just words sir of someone else’s language. Don’t discriminate other people’s language. Thank you.
@@americanronin5223 I know what I am talking about. Do you know that you label my Hmong Mong people as Miao suave Maab. You commented a genocide against our Hmong Mong under the United nation charter articles.
@@americanronin5223 Miao is the natural enemy of our Mong Hmong people. We lost our Mong nation Mongol teb chaw Mong, because of the Miao suave Han suave Chinese people.
@@americanronin5223 you need to stop label my Mong people as Miao Nanman maab suave Han Chinese. Otherwise you will be putting to jail. You commented a genocide against our Mong Hmong identities history root under the United nation charter articles of Genova convention. Keep label my Mong Hmong people as Miao people. You will to face world court soon
@@yifeishi9857 Miao is not a race, the name Miao is a political interest name to classify all the minority in central land as one nationality under Miao China communist government control.
@@yifeishi9857 theirs no controversial issues among Mong Hmong community’s. The name Miao label into our Mong Hmong crime genocide against our HMong Mong people under the United nation charter articles. The Miao Chinese was the problem to our Mong Hmong people. Miao name label to Hmong Mong people is political ideology document number 9 one road one build of the Chinese communist government. Yes, I believe they will be a Great War into the future Mong Hmong vs Miao Maab Nanman Han suave Chinese people.
To everyone reading this for clarification:
Hmong is a SUBGROUP of Miao. Miao consists of multiple subgroups such as Hmong, Hmu, Xong, and etc. with their own dialects and languages that share common traditions, culture, and languages (even though we might not understand each other to a certain degree). The Hmong/Mong people outside of China are PROBABLY descendants of the Hmong people in Yunnan province of China as they have the same or similar traditions and practices as the Hmong/Mong people outside of China. That's all I have to share. Search it up, research it up. There are lots of things I don't know, but I mostly know which is true or not through common sense and logic around these topics or any topic. If I'm not sure, I wouldn't take it as fact yet until proven. But anyways, that is all.
We love our Hmong people- all of them… from all over the world…
Coming from Hmong-American's perspective: I was taught Miao was offensive word when I was younger from the elders who became Hmong refugees from Laos Secret war and the Vietnam war. Yes, We are subgroup and part of Miao groups that CCP decide to lump us with other ethnicity& minority groups back in 1950s&1960s which I believe now in mainland china is definitely are changing as more modernize and seeing the differences between cultures and languages. After deep research on the internet and and confirm one of our own Hmong Tribes in China: Miao (苗)means in Mandarin= "Wheat Seeds". The Chinese characters of 苗 (Miao) the top of letter (One line with two little lines represent the "Ox") The bottom letter (square shape represent the fields hence the showing a picture of "fields.") I fully understand the word Miao (苗) means Wheat Seeds, and not offended anymore. The Han Chinese people acknowledge that we are first Hmong people to farm the lands in China before the Han Chinese people did. Proof here>ruclips.net/video/UV1dwEU_-Qc/видео.html Yang Geli (Hmong Chinese Singer/Actor) did a great job explaining it. In end, we all Hmong and I hope we both Hmong from China and Hmong from other countries untied as one and shared one majority experiences. Also, Jehanne de Biolley did amazing job to study the textiles because it will bring interest from the west and let us hope the textiles can be persevere in next 100 years or so.
I was born in laos but grew up in thailand so when I went to thai school in the 1980 or 90 thai teachers still called us Miao. we have no problem with that because we didn't know who change Miao to Hmong and when and why so either name is fine with me but the word Miao is known all over Asia but Hmong is only known to the West and a few countries in south asia like vietnam laos thai and cambodia, not in Burma yet!
😮 their embroidery is the most beautiful ive ever seen! I wish i knew how they get their silver that snowy white color?
Thanks for sharing. I too believe that our pajntaub flowery clothes contain our history, science, mathematics and arts. I have been trying to start a charter school here in MInnesota, USA to do just that. Thanks James and the crew for sharing.
Great video. Please continue to share more
Thank you so much for the video
Sorry folks, just for your aware that we today are no longer Miao but Hmong so please no longer call us as Miao but Hmong. Thank you.
Thats a ignorant comment. You're speaking for the Hmong Americans. Have you even talk to a Chinese Miao and see how they feel
@@AY2121-i4y For real. All the Hmong people in the comments crying about not wanting to be called Miao but this video isn't about them.
Mong was a place in the region before China. It's hard to understand but think of it as historical people like Incas or Aztec. We know they exist but have long been gone from their original location.
Here in the US. We’re losing it😂
The MIAO MEN HAVE MORE WIFE THEN THE CHINESE MEN. THIS IS TRUE 👍.
Be like water my friends. Lol
We used to be called Miao in thailand and laos but when vietnam and laos become French territory and control, the French wanted to divide or saperated the Miao in laos and thailand Vietnam from the Miao in china, The French rename us as Hmong not Miao anymore so that the chinese can not expand their territory toward south otherwise the chinese will go anywhere or after the Miao down south and get more land from Southeast Asia. we just change from Miao to Hmong in laos from Dr. Yang dao and couple of French missionaries with the laos govt controlled by French. my great great grandfather told us one generation to another untill now we're absolutely 100% Miao
where's where proof, your pulling this crap from thin air..
Mong was a place that exist before China; Our ancestor are the Xiongnu/relating to the Mongols of Chinggis Khan; in fact Mong have fought in both sides of many conflicts in present day China. The 'H' was added to Hmong during the Vietnam war because we didn't want to be call Miao due to a vast minority sub-group of China. We know who we are and our path comes from north Vietnam (sapa); into Laos (XiengKhoua) and finally into the USA/France and other places around the world.
We know who we are; China is still our heart
Miao men are also silversmiths
The debate whether we are Miao or Hmong which I see a lot in this vdo and others is one of contentious to me. I am one that is very passionate and hardcore and every time i heard people calling us Miao is an insult. I very much like to say to the film maker of this video that please do not call us Miao. Wherever we are on this earth we are always known as “Hmong”. Let me suggest to the film maker, please go ask the people in your film in their mother tongue what do you call yourself. Do not ask them in English or Chinese rather ask these people in their language. I bet it’s not Miao. I will defend the Hmong name to my last breath and that’s how passionate I am. Let me give you, the film maker an example . I am known as John and you always call me Jack, don’t you think that’s an insult? I’d even go further, that is derogatory. Please stop! Your film is of the highest standard but please use the “Hmong” name. We fought for our existence since the beginning of time in every country we been to is because we want to get rid of the name “Miao”. I have a dream just like MLK. That one day, you all will call us “Hmong”. Thank you!
You identify as Hmong and the people in China as Miao. I don't see why you're here on a video about them crying about wanting to be called Hmong when its not a video about you lmao.
the hmong and Miao that stayed in china are miao, the one who fled from china are hmong, we was never Miao.
The video wasnt about yall then. Why come here crying about not wanting to be called Miao, when it didn't mention anything about Hmong people?
It's Hmong, please! Miao is a racist name given by the Chinese people.
No it’s not a racist name. Please don’t make that up. The fact that you said that it’s “given by the Chinese people” which means you don’t even know what that means. If you were misinformed, then please relearn. If you’re just stating it by just stating it, then please stop making it up. You’re making an embarrassment to the rest of us. You’re not the only Hmong person.
@@kamenriderpm1114 I am not. I have proof!
@@kamenriderpm1114 ruclips.net/video/RAFaZjL3p1c/видео.html
@@kamenriderpm1114 Miao/苗/猫 is a racist name! That is given by the Qing/Ching and Ming Dynasties. Go look it up!
Our real name is 盟族.
If you're Chinese, maybe you're ignorant about our people.
@@KevinVang1000 that’s not proof. You’re not even Hmong and you’re clearly not Chinese. There’s no such thing as 盟族. 苗 and 猫aren’t not the same word. No one from China and/or those who speaks Chinese will say that they’re the same words. If you claim that you know Chinese, then you’re lying. They’re just words sir of someone else’s language. Don’t discriminate other people’s language. Thank you.
Miao is not Hmong Mong. Miao is nagas Han suave Chinese people.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
@@americanronin5223 I know what I am talking about. Do you know that you label my Hmong Mong people as Miao suave Maab. You commented a genocide against our Hmong Mong under the United nation charter articles.
@@americanronin5223 Miao is Maab Origen. Miao naga nagani fuxi nuwa snake 🐍 reptilian devil Chiyou Origen. Miao is not our Mong Hmong people.
@@americanronin5223 Miao is the natural enemy of our Mong Hmong people. We lost our Mong nation Mongol teb chaw Mong, because of the Miao suave Han suave Chinese people.
@@americanronin5223 you need to stop label my Mong people as Miao Nanman maab suave Han Chinese. Otherwise you will be putting to jail. You commented a genocide against our Mong Hmong identities history root under the United nation charter articles of Genova convention. Keep label my Mong Hmong people as Miao people. You will to face world court soon
Miao is not Hmong Mong.
Confused, you say miao is not Hmong, and some other comments in this video says miao is Hmong, like the Kaven Vang. Which one is correct?
@@yifeishi9857 Miao is not Hmong Mong. Miao is Nanman maab suave.
@@yifeishi9857 Miao is not a race, the name Miao is a political interest name to classify all the minority in central land as one nationality under Miao China communist government control.
@@johnxiongnu8789 i understand what you mean. But seems that this is a controversial issue even among the hmong community.
@@yifeishi9857 theirs no controversial issues among Mong Hmong community’s. The name Miao label into our Mong Hmong crime genocide against our HMong Mong people under the United nation charter articles. The Miao Chinese was the problem to our Mong Hmong people. Miao name label to Hmong Mong people is political ideology document number 9 one road one build of the Chinese communist government. Yes, I believe they will be a Great War into the future Mong Hmong vs Miao Maab Nanman Han suave Chinese people.