I bought a gun from a magazine article in 1994! Smith &Wesson 640 Jack Weigand 4PJ Executive Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- When I found this, I was perusing the used guns on a local gun shops website. All it said was “640- Ported” and it piqued my interest.
@revolverroundup said the 640 is probably the best carry J frame ever made being a centennial (internal hammer) and all stainless, so I wanted one.
When I got to the shop and looked this over, I realized it was something special. A lot of internet searching brought me to the American Handgunner article about the Jack Weigand 4PJ Executive 640, which is exactly what this gun is. 
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Legend, I like that. I am not actually retired.
@@JackWeigand Oh sweet! Hi Jack! I just emailed you, and sorry if I mispronounced your name!
😂😂🤣
@@redrider7730 Wonder if he could do the action work, if not the custom ported barrel.
I remember you talking about going full on, with scope mount pic rail manufacturing back around 1999. I used your barrel fixtures a lot back when I was active. Great to see you are still at it. (Montgomery Community College days.)
@@silenceismycanvas Yes 1999 was around the time I moved away from Pistolsmithing and primarily into the scope mount and tool business. It was a tough choice but it needed to be done. I have been doing work but not for the general public. That is an entirely different story, the general public is VERY hard to build guns for. They think it is McDonalds as far as delivery times and many times have no idea of what to expect when they receive the finished product.
I learned a good bit from Jack's 1911 classes around the yr 1999. Great instructor.
@@silenceismycanvas that’s awesome!
You picked up a really cool 640. I am a little jealous
@@revolverroundup I know 😁
I said model 60 a couple times, it is a model 640
@@crankygunreviews yes I realized it but we both know. Lol. It has to take a backseat for now. Still waiting for the bodyguard 2.0. I have hopes for that lil guy. In Mass so ya know how that goes. Told my ffl. Just order no question. No pass go. Lol stay warm friend. Keep the content coming. 🤞🏻 with revolver roundup collaboration.
It's a great piece of Handgunner history, worth far more than the $599 you paid. The "Cool Factor" alonr is worth $600 and I'm not even a fan of porting. I have a 640 no lock from the 1990s (my back up gun before we went to Glocks). It is buttery smooth from use over the years and "if I could only have one handgun" I would pick the 640. Congratulations on an excellent acquisition!
I have a ported 640 with tested for +P+ on the inside frame. The gun store owner said it’s a rare revolver. Great revolver. One of my favorite J frame revolvers.
That barrel reminds me of my Kimber K6S.
@@boostimalaka1 very cool on your + P + recolver- I have heard of them but never seen one
This is one of the reasons I like guns. It’s so fun finding and learning about guns and finding a special gun, is even more fun.
@@ironmikehallowween you’re not kidding! The story on these is pretty cool
That's an awesome gun. What a find that was.
@@jeffreykite9641 I know! I’m going to do an update on it in a couple weeks, have more info on the custom work
Beautiful functional piece of history. Really enjoyed the enthusiasm, videography, research and editing in this video. Professional work.
Thanks so much, I had a lot of fun making it! Wish my mic levels were better, I forgot my good mic at the beginning
640s are awesome j frames. This one has a cool history and some nice work done
The gunsmith did a nice job with this one. I’m gonna do a follow up because I’ve been in communication with Jack Weigand and bought a copy of the magazine it was featured in
Nice score! And by the way, I think you have a lot of nice revolvers and I appreciate your videos on them!
@@keithwilliams2766 thank you! I just meant this one is really special having been a feature (and the cover gun) in American Handgunner
Cranky - what a great find! Looks pretty flat shooting in the slo-mo!!!
@@kerino1 it definitely has noticeably less recoil
Very cool find , it looks like flatter shooter . Like the way you presented it like the magazine article
Nice find. Not many left that remember those names.
@@michaelgraham8854 I’m just learning them! I bought a copy of the magazine too 😎
Thats an awesome gun and a great history lesson. Thanks for the great video!!
@@gillysguns9244 thanks!
I thought Jack Weigand sold to Gemini Customs.
@@dynamicfirearmsinc432 he may have. I emailed him, and he said his shop sold these direct for $825, and they were back logged for 2 years after the magazine article came out. Gemini may have had the FFL, I can ask him.
@@dynamicfirearmsinc432 I checked with Jack, he said many of the guns they modified were sent in by people who already owned them, he had his own FFL at the time, and he sold to other shops.
Fantastic video. Great work with the research, camera footage, etc.
you really have something special there and I can’t get over the price. Wow!
Picking up a standard model 640 next week and hoping it is finally a j frame I can shoot comfortably and enjoy. A little jealous of your though. 😂 Enjoy!!
@@Bonham1911 thank you!
That's really cool! Closest I got is soon I will have vids on the Colt Black Beauty.....
@@DanTheWolfman very cool!
Sweet piece! Great find! Enjoy!👍🏽😊❤️🇺🇸
@@jeffryrichardson9105 thanks!
Good for you ......... 👍👍 ........
@@MegaBait1616 thanks!
Cool find! Lot’s of luck with her !
@@lens7859 thanks!
I have a lock version 640 i bought used, It waa filthy too. It is a favorite despite the lock. They are so well made and have great double action triggers.
I don’t mind the locks, but I prefer it without them. I hate the fact that Smith did it to appease the government- Clinton era gun control
Very Nice pickup man 🤠
@@wyominggunproject thank you!
I got my second 640. The gun was nice and tight but it had some scuffs on the brushed stainless finish so I glass beaded it to a satin finish that hid all flaws. Mine I think is a bit older than that one. You better check for light strikes if they lightened the mainspring because the firing pin is frame mounted and the hammer does not have a great deal of mass. I don't see the point of ports on a .38 unless some kind of lightweight model.
I only shot 10 rounds out of mine, but it was fine- the ports are just to make it more manageable- a lot of people hate the J frame in 38 or 357- I have strong hands so I’ve never had an issue.
That's real nice.
@@buffalosoutdoors you’re not kidding! I’m going to do a follow up, Jack Weigand replied to me so I have more info on these guns
@ oh that’s cool. Can’t wait to hear about it.
That's a really fun and cool find! I wish I could put half a box through it. For some reason I've been partial to the S&W 35 Magnum wheel guns since I was a little kid. Maybe because it's all the more power the adults would let me get a hold of. But I digress.
@@loganmeline9233 it’s pretty cool to be sure
Thats pretty cool, thanks for sharing. I was in preschool at that time 😂
I was 12 in 1994
Awesome find
@@jefferynatter1961 thanks!
Thanks. Nice gun.
@@Bob.W. thank you!
Cool find! Not sure why you’d want to port a .38 caliber gun, but it sure looks cool though.
Price seems kinda high, as used 640 Pro’s can be had for $600-$800 but for the custom work done I guess it evens out.
I love S&W revolvers too and probably would have bought it in a heartbeat.
@@kylewood8327 when using high pressure ammo, +P or if you’re doing a lot of competition shooting (again why with a snubnose?) it does reduce recoil a lot.
@ Ya, maybe, the 640 is a heavy gun for a .38 only. Now if you had the Pro i can definitely see doing it. But like i said earlier, it sure looks cool.
@ it does look cool. I’m requesting info from Jack Weigand on the program, how many guns they produced, etc to see if he can give me more info. I’ll make a follow up if I do
@@crankygunreviews And the best part is you didn’t have to pay the original extravagant price tag for the custom work.
@ I probably paid pretty close to what it was in 1994- I’m betting back then the gun was close to $400 and the extra work was $300- I paid $599 for this
I got two kinds of Uncle Mike grips made when you could still get them but I changed to a pair of Pachmayrs that are larger, point naturally, and better than the compacts if you are not needing deep concealment. Maybe I should look at laser grips again.
I like the uncle mikes- I have these combat grips and the boot grips. They were put on the early to mid 2000’s j frames before the S&W branded molded ones. The uncle mikes aren’t as fragile, the newer S&W ones the nut that’s molded in the grip for the screw breaks all the time. I’ve had like 4 of them break over the years
It would be interesting to determine how much velocity is lost due to all that porting.
@@davidkachel it’s in the magazine article- I have the magazine now. Maybe I’ll do a follow up
I was gonna say the velocity must be horrible considering it's already a snubby and has ports practically the entire length of the barrel, but then I paused on the article you showed and saw they were showing it's practically a non factor? I know you don't have a chrono but I would love to see that confirmed today...
I do need a chrono…
Revolverroundup has one cranky just a quick hop jump and skip away.lol
I have seen these ported barrel guns shot side by side with unported guns and you do loose some depending on the load. I would have passed up on this one and got the 638. I have a M640 38 special an it really is a nice gun. mine is unmodified and is a no dash. in the cylinder frame window it says "tested for +P+". it has and does spend time on my pocket. the weight aids in control of the gun, and the small grips still gives me a 3 finger hold. I don't really like the stretched 'J' magnum 357 versions of it. the slightly smaller (original ) "J" frame just feels better for me.
I almost passed- but it’s cool having a gun from a magazine article, I can always get another 638- they’re everywhere
@@crankygunreviews what you need to do, and I know this is hard because not too many people are stupid enough to give this one up, but you need to get the original M640 like I got. it is really a nice gun. I wish I could send you a pic of mine . you would really like it in the original form. and it is a very strong revolver. it came out in 1989. that's when mine was made. be on the lookout for one. you will like it even more than the one you got.
@@glennsammon4465 I have a 1973 nickel Bodyguard, 1992 640 Magnaported tested for +P+ with the Craig Spiegel boot grip. Interesting how I still have a few boxes of Federal 147 grain +P+ Hydrashok that was given to us when we switched to the Glock 19 using the 124 grain Hydrashok +P+. I think this ammunition was developed during that time Smith and Wesson was selling the Centennial model to police. The Tested for +P+ is desirable to a S&W collector.
@@boostimalaka1 well collector quality aside I have to say my M640 spends time in my pocket. I have a 1985 made Bodyguard in stainless. I envy you on the nickeled one. is it the M49 or the M38? ( I would still envy you either way). I also have an M60 from about 1976 that gets used. the stainless guns hold up a little better since there is not blued finish to wear off. I still have them rotate as my back up to my issue plastic fantastic. but I do miss the days when my S&W M65 , M66 or M19 rode with me.
also I remember the 147 grain stuff only around the 1980s so maybe you have something there. before that it was the 110 grain treasury load which was +P+ ( basically a 357 magnum in the shorter 38 special case). a bit much for a "J" frame.
A S&W 640 is chambered in .357 S&W Magnum.
@@SpicyRok7482 the newer ones are, this one is a “no dash” early model and is only 38 special. Same goes for model 60’s- old ones were 38 special new ones are 357
@crankygunreviews A-HA!! Thank you Sir! I have half a ton of J-frames, but not brave enuf for any magnums...that job goes to K's, L's & N's.
@ I’ve shot magnums out of my 60- they need good rubber grips and they’re fine
Its not the recoil of the stainless-framed 60, its the BLAST.
@ ehh that never bothered me
Congrats. Thats awesome. I may look into a model 60. Time to use your talents and make a display for the pistol with the magazine article. The one bad thing is, I heard you only had 10 rounds. Shame on you. Lol.
@@cabragooncabulous4082 I said model 60 a couple times, this is a 640. And I had about 300 rounds, but I did like 4 videos the day I was out there and forgot to save a lot for this shooting portion… I’ll be out again soon
I’m curious to know how that much porting affects the velocity.
There’s a pic in the video- I bought the magazine so I will do a follow up
Enjoyed the video. If you do get a chance to chrono it please let us know the results.
@@TARandFEATHERS the results were in the magazine article- I briefly ran over it in the video- I don’t have a chrono yet
Yahoo!!
@@guaporeturns9472 this thing is sweet
@ Should keep you from being cranky for a while
@ definitely will!
It's making me a little cranky tho
@@revolverroundup Nothing a bit of Jim Beam can’t fix.
Jim Beam fixes everything.
His hair matches his jacket 😄
lol it does
Nifty gun...
@@ozarkrefugee definitely is!
The description of the filthy gun in the gun shop sounds awfully familiar...I guess they don't have time to make them properly salable. Wouldn't want them to look appealing to the prospective buyer. A little rust gives it character. Insulting...
@@sm25550 this place never cleans them. They move them fast too