Ice Breaking Port Thunder Bay Ontario Lake Superior USCG Alder
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2018
- Up close and personal with the USCG Alder as she breaks a path into a Grain Elevator slip to free up the Thunder Bay Tug Services Tugboats!
Music "5 cents back" "Alison" by Jason Shaw
www.audionautix.com
![MAF Teeski - Whole Thing (feat. VonOff1700) [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SHWEj-ndz6g/mqdefault.jpg)
It was a smart thing to design the 180ft buoy tender replacement with ice re-enforced buoy tenders. The older 180's (Bramble, Mariposa, etc) in the lakes were also refitted over the years with re-enforced hulls designed for ice breaking, but they still had to drop a LARGE concrete sinker onto the ice to help crack it. They just didn't have the power to drive upon it. Only for light ice breaking duty they would be used. The old and new Mac along with the 140's (ice breaking tugs) were for the heavier ice. There might even be some here who remember the Westwind out of Milwaukee. Though in the great lakes, it's primary duty was Antarctic and Artic trips. Great video. Mobile Bay crewmember (80-81) sends.
Thanks Man and thanks for the info!
If you’ve spent any amount of time on these lakes, you appreciate it when the CG answers your pan-pan or mayday. Every single time. If they can’t they’ll find someone else who can. Lucky to have them.
Ya, I used Dive and Shipwreck hunt on Lake Superior, it's a big dangerous lake that requires lots of respect! Thanks for checking the vid out Russ!
Nice to hear my taxes are used in some where needed
Nice video of the Alder working a narrow berth. Semper Paratus.
Ya, it was pretty cool watching her work! Thanks for watching William!
I live near Port Huron, Michigan and it's neat when you see both the US Coast Guard and their Canadian counterparts working together to keep the shipping lane open on the St. Clair River. Anyway, think it's pretty neat to see how ice breakers work @ 7:00, how they climb up on top of the ice and use the weight of the ship to break down through the ice. Thanks for the great video.
Thanks George!
This type of video is wonderful. Anyone who has traveled on the great lakes knows how vital the US Coast Guard can be, when weather conditions change rapidly and you are floating in a small yacht! Thank God for the folks who work for the US Coast Guard!
Thanks Tom! Glad you enjoyed the video! I liken it to watching Grass Grow but I got nice and close up for this one and really enjoyed watching then do their thing...although it was colder than hell that day! LOL! They should be breaking up the harbour again this year soon! Thanks for tuning in!
The breakers are the unsung heroes of the lakes. Monotonous back and forth. Day and night but without them...
Very true! Like watching grass grow but totally needed! Thanks for watching Terry!
Thank You for sharing this, served on USCGC Planetree WLB 307,
Ketchikan AK
Cool! Thanks Tye!
Great footage ! USCG doing a fantastic job, your vantage point for filming is ideal Well done Rob
Thanks Man! Ya, I had an awesome spot to watch from! Thanks for checking the video out!
Nice to see international cooperation! Canada and U.S. rock!! An example to the world!
Yep for sure! I like seeing the US breakers coming in here.
I could have sat and watched that all night. LOVE it!
Great, glad you enjoyed the vid! Thanks for checking it out!
Great job of capturing the sound of the breaking ice. Can't be there in person, but now have an idea of what it's like. Thanks!
Thanks! It was pretty cool watching her work up close like that!
Here's another video with sound of it... from ahead of ship. ;)
ruclips.net/video/6a7vIs1Pupg/видео.html
In thick ice at slow speed there can be some "complaining noises"
ruclips.net/video/__2NCHv_H38/видео.html
Though in ship sound would be very different:
ruclips.net/video/U4mC405E6OE/видео.html
That was a seriously awesome vid, your closeness to the action was incredible, freaking love icebreakers!! Thanks so much for sharing that!! 😎
It was like watching paint dry and I froze my ass off but still had a great time watching her come in. Thanks Geoffrey!
@@OutdoorRob Thank you for taking one for the team Rob!! lol 🥶
@@geoffreyneish7999 LOL! Ya, it was chilly!
Great job, excellent video , thanks
Thanks Ian, I appreciate that! Thanks for checking the vid out!
i agree very good footage and be glad you caught this kodak moment
Thanks Man! It was pretty cool to see up close! Thanks for checking the video out!
Great video! I had no idea the ice was that thick! Really interesting to see the approach the CG boat used when they were at a standstill.
The ice around here gets pretty thick in the harbour. Mostly they blow the ice backwards so when they back up they don't damage the prop. It's like watching paint dry but pretty cool non the less! Thanks Man!
Such level ice is easy. It's pressure ridges which take some work from icebreakers.
Like this 65 ft thick ridge:
ruclips.net/video/xfFkfiMRP00/видео.html
The biggest ice breaker is the USCG MACKINAC based at the far eastern end of Lake Superior? Love our Coast Guard. Anyone who lives around the Great Lakes loves our " Coasties".
Ya, the new Mackinaw was based somewhere around Cheboygan, MI. Not sure if she's still there. The Alder left the Lakes this early Fall and is going somewhere down along the east coast for a retrofit, then on to her new home in San Francisco. The USCG Spar will be coming down from Alaska to replace her in Duluth next year apparently. They switch them out so that the hulls wear the same, fresh water and salt water service. Will be cool to see a new boat on the Lake! Thanks Shirley!
@2:30 beautiful shot of the sleeping giant!
Thanks Neil! Glad you liked the vid, thanks for watching!
Miss the alder when the ship was in Duluth Minnesota now we have the spar in Duluth Minnesota for the lake superior harbor basin.....
I was hoping to see the Spar up here this spring but I guess she had some issues and couldn't make it.
@@OutdoorRob the spar stays in the coast guard station in Duluth Minnesota harbor basin
Nice. First bit in the canoe is that on the Kopka river?
Thanks Man! No, it's on the Pickerel coming down into Oliphant Lake in Quetico. Thanks for watching!
Boat so big it has a 50ton Crain on it that looks like a small boom hoist. We use the same size craine in tree work on a big kW and it looks big and is heavy
She's a good sized boat for sure!
Wow it does an awesome job. God bless America!!!✔ How much horsepower does it produce?
Check out their web page www.atlanticarea.uscg.mil/Our-Organization/District-9/Ninth-District-Staff/Prevention-Division/Cutters/ALDER/
cool to see the U.S. helping out tbay :)
Ya, they switch off with the Canadian Cutters breaking out each other's ports, depending on where they end up wintering! Nice to see the US ones come up here!
This grain elevator is fairly close to the marina in Thunder Bay right? It looks familiar.
It's down by the old ore dock. Thanks for checking the video out Ryan!
@@OutdoorRob Thanks! I thought so! I've seen it a couple times but never been there. Maybe the next time I'm there.
At first I was thinking: That crazy fool is standing on the ice filming
LOL! I was thinking that when I was watching it afterwards...looked like I was out on the ice! LOL! Thanks for watching!
New sub #292
Thanks Man! Hope you enjoy the vids!
Why did it break the ice between the Agricore United grain elevator, and the UGG one? Both are closed since years, right?
The Tugboats dock there, so she was breaking them out. Ya they are both closed elevators. Thanks for watching!
@@OutdoorRob Did they close the UGG in 2001, and Agricore United in 2007?
That sounds about the right time frame...
@@OutdoorRob Interesting, thank you :)
I didn't know the US and Canada broke ice for each other either. It doesn't make sense to break ice on half the lake though. What kind of protection is there for the propellers?
Yes, they share the load depending on what is needed and where they are located. The Alder breaks ice anywhere on Lake Superior basically but usually sticks between Duluth, MN and Thunder Bay, ON. The newer boats use Azimuth thrusters. The propellers on any ship are really not protected, they are pretty strong but they still need care as they can be damaged if the ice is too thick. Thanks for watching Dan!
@@OutdoorRob I know that the ice on Fox Lake Wisconsin can be 4 feet thick and that's several hours south of Superior. I'd guess 6 feet of ice isn't out of the question if the weather is calm enough. Oh, and hello from Colorado!
3 to 4 feet I think on a normal winter in the Harbour, sometimes less...they really have to go slow and work at it when it's over 3 from what I can tell. Love Colorado, been there 4 times, done some riding thru the mountain passes, Black Bear, Imogene, etc.
@@danmanthe9335 Calm weather isn't the worst.
It's long duration winds and breaking up level ice which is nasty by building pressure ridges.
Thickness of those is often counted in dozens of feets.
750 RPM MaK/CAT Engines ?
Listed as having two 3,100 hp Caterpillar Diesel Engines capable of 15 kn. Not sure of the RPM's. Thanks for watching!
They haven’t opened up the locks?
Ya locks are open and the boats are running but still lots of ice out there this spring...really late spring!
That water sure looks cold
LOL! That lake is always cold...might reach the 60's in the shallows in the summer but down below 100' it's always 36f year round! I used to shipwreck dive in it all the time, so I know! LOL! Thanks for watching Phillip!
Samuel L Risley was where? Doing what?
I'm not sure where she was...she's had a major engine fail since last year, so maybe they're working on her.
Do the crew have to change into ladies underwear every time they cross into Canada?
LOL! I didn't notice but I don't think they'd cave to Canada's policies! LOL! Thanks for watching!
Black Hulls Rule!
LOL! The black heats up from the sun and melts the ice...kinda like a solar ice breaker! LOL! Thanks for watching John!
Rob, the work ships of the USGC, mostly buoy tenders, have black hulls. Other cutters have white hulls or red hulls (icebreakers). Coasties who served in the black huii Guard have a lot of pride. @@OutdoorRob
USCG breaks ice in Canadian waters? Didn't know that
Ya, on the Great Lakes, they share the ice breaking...sometimes Canadian Coast Guard breaking in US Waters and US breaking in Cdn Waters. There is no Cdn Ice Breaker stationed on Lake Superior, so the US Breaker comes here from Duluth, MN for the initial break. Thanks for tuning in Casey!
Outdoor Rob learn something new every day, thnks for the response
No problem!
Beautiful and informative video. The two countries share ice breaking duties on the St Clair and Detroit rivers. Often one from each will lead a convoy through ice fields.
Why was a US Coast Guard Icebreaker in the Port of Thunder Bay Ontario?
Canadian and US share ice breaking on the Great Lakes! Sometimes we get a CDN boat and sometimes US! Thanks for watching!
Not to mention that Canada underfunds all of its critical services, military, coast guard, RCMP and intelligence. This has been a common theme for every gov't regardless of its political stripes for generations. The current gov't acting in an especially reprehensible way.
@@tomlarocque4720 Sorry to tell you this but the U.S. only has one heavy icebreaker in the Great Lakes, the Mackinaw, and two heavies in Alaska. Canada has 110 but has none in Lake Superior as there are no major ports.
Canada has the longest coastline in the world, more than 10 times more than the U.S. Underfunded, I don't think so!
I wonder how many horsepower or kw.
Found this... 2 × 3,100 shp (2,300 kW) Caterpillar diesel engines. Pretty powerful! Thanks for checking the vid out Joe!
@@OutdoorRob Thanks Rob!
This vessel just sold to a handful of duluthians for 125k. They plan to use it as a yacht!
You might be talking about the old Alder, this one is new and still in the hands of the Coast Guard? Big ass yacht for sure!
Snow Man not this vessel. This one is still working for the USCG and will be back in Thunder Bay this spring again.
WTH is is an AMERICAN icebreaker funded by American tax dollars breaking ice in ONTARIO for? My brother is a trucker, unrelated i know" but if he hauls a load into CANADA HE CANNOT haul A PALLET out. But Canadian trucks come to America on Monday and haul American freight here breaking up OUR highways all week, then bring the money to CANADA.. And we use our icebreakers for THEIR ports? WTH? Friggin canooks!
They have an agreement with Canada...Canadian Ice Breakers will break out American ports when needed and vise Versa! You gotta talk to Mr Trump, I can't help you with the Trucking issue! Thanks for watching Danielle!
Danielle Dykgraaf, I do not think your understanding of cross-border trucking rules is accurate. US or Mexican drivers can certainly haul goods into and out of Canada - but they can't pick up goods for domestic delivery within Canada while they are here. The same rules apply to Canadian drivers hauling loads into and out of the USA and/or Mexico. More details here: cscb.ca/article/navigating-canadian-cabotage
Another common point of confusion in trucking is whether loading or unloading is considered incidental to their driving duties, or whether it is a separate 'job' that isn't covered by their transportation authority. There may be company policies, union rules, or 'job description' politics that drivers have to deal with, but as far as international cabotage laws go, loading, securing, or unloading is considered work that is incidental to transport in both Canada and US and doesn't violate any immigration conditions.
@@steinwaymodelb pardon me for.not believing you.....over my brother....or my eyes....with all( hellavalot) of Canadian trucks pounding past my shop on the highway 80 yards away.
@@danielledykgraaf6483 Don't take my word for anything - take it from the United States Customs and Border Patrol: www.cbp.gov/border-security/ports-entry/cargo-security/carriers/land-carriers/how Yes, I'm sure you see many Canadian trucks in the US, just as we see thousands of US trucks every day here in Canada. There's a massive amount of international trade between our two countries, and the vast majority of that is transported by truck. Trucks and drivers of both countries transport goods into and out of both countries. Canadian drivers, however, can only pick up shipments stateside that they take out of the country - they can't transport domestic shipments within the USA. The same applies to US truckers in Canada. If you are convinced there is a disparity in transport laws that favors Canadian truckers, I would respectfully ask you to point out those regulations which you refer to.
She was not a wery good icebreaker
No? I thought she did pretty good in the thick ice!
@@OutdoorRob you should see the swedish icebreakes, they can go through about 3 meaters of without stoppning
Great job
Very nice video .Thanks so much
@@wiggonilsson7258 You do realize the ocean going ice breakers are much larger and heavier, right? Also, saltwater ice on the oceans is weaker than freshwater ice since there are no salts in freshwater trying to keep the water from freezing. Saltwater ice breaks much easier than freshwater ice. Learn science bro, lol.