Fair play to Noctua for releasing the files for free, rather than them wait for bad models of their own product by others and make sure everyone has the quality they stand for, amazing.
@@informative_walrus A Noctua A12x25 is 40$ us on newegg by itself. Just the fan. By itself. so add 15$ for 120AC->12V fan control, the stand ($?), and the Flow Amplifier (time+filament$) So a total of 100$ is only slightly bad actually
@@jttech44 it's basically a turbulent-to-laminar flow guide, which will reduce mass flow but let it go farther before turbulence separates the flow as a desk fan it's barely useful, and is probably just a neat science project/marketing exercise
A desk fan competition for the next season of fan showdown would be amazing! The goal could be airflow at a distance. I'm not sure how the fans could be fairly scored, but the concept seems cool.
I like that idea! Could be something like an anemometer dead center at a fixed distance, see which fan can produce the highest air velocity at that distance. Alternatively, aim for a fixed air velocity and measure the maximum distance at which the fan can achieve it.
We neeeeeed an airflow comparison between your year old version and the updated Noctua CAD file printed version. I'd bet there's less than 5% cfm difference.
I made a 140mm version by scaling it in the slicer but the first one that i printed at 1.16x scale did not align with the screw holes so rescaled it at 1.19x and it fits perfect with just a slight 1.4mm overhang over the fan
@@justwinclassic Dunno but it only overhangs the blades by a couple mm so i doubt it makes a huge difference since the centre of the fan doesn't move much air anyway
@@uhN0id Really bloody good with the NF-A14 3000 industrial fan, paired it with a usb c powered pwm controller that i got off aliexpress and you can either go with a fairly civil air flow all the way up to desktop jet engine
Uh, that visual effect of that fan housing exploding was a little too perfect for a RUclips video... I'm not even 100% sure how you did it (parts drop and video overlap?). That was like Hollywood level of precision.
@@MajorHardware Nice! I'm surprised more ppl aren't talking about it given how good that was. You can barely see the splice between assembled and "explosion" at 0.25x speed.
I have been trying to design a desk fan for about 2 months. So happy this popped up in my YT feed. Exactly what I needed! Only thing I am going to change is instead of sitting on the desk I am going to build an adjustable mount that can mount from behind my monitor using my VESA wall mount arm hanging down to keep it off the desk.
👍👍 to Noctua for doing this for people who want to DIY or adapt their design at the cost of 3d filament, and you for all the rest of the bits and pieces to make it work. Wonder how well it would scale up for a 200mm fan? 🤔 Some public libraries also have 3d printers for patrons use.
@@Steamrick Have you been outside this summer?! Someone earlier scaled it 1.19X to fit a 140mm but the amplifier center hub ended up bigger than the 140mm hub, so some adjustment other than scale might be needed
Finished printing mine! Like most people, I had a few spare 120s lying around so this will be a fun project for them! Thank you for putting it on our radar and putting in the leg work on the stand!
It's good that they released the shroud model at least. I got so tired of waiting that I designed my own desk fan instead, it has a custom PCB with an onboard 12V boost converter and 555 timers to generate a 25kHz PWM signal with adjustable duty cycle. Granted my 3D printed stands aren't tilt adjustable but the parts cost (besides the fan) is only around US$12.
All the parts really add up in cost, so $100 seems crazy, but it’s got a $40 fan at the heart of it…a fan controller, grill, ac power adapter, the flow attachment, and then of course the heavy duty stand.
Right...I was going to say the same thing. The 'kit' is more than just the fan...so looking at all the parts and equipment included the price seems quite a bit more justified.
Agreed, however there are lots of techies and hackers who have other 120mm fans, old school fan grills, and can adapt a similar stand out of some metal or wood. The only thing that needs to be printed is the flow attachment. Most people will never build their own but it's pretty cool that they can if they want. Or adapt the design for a smaller or bigger fan, etc.
So perfect thank you I'll be printing this soon I have a 120mm fan that I got gifted recently and was actually designing a stand for it this is leaps and bounds better than what I made!
It is also possible that it has boost converter, the a12x25 fan only draws 1.68w, so you could easily run it at 100% even on a 1a 5v wall wort. Or it might just be lower powered.
If you add up all the parts Noctua sells separately, that's $35 for the fan, $25 for the NA-FC1 fan controller, $20 for the wall plug, $40 for the stand... that's already $120 and you don't have a shroud yet. Sure it's all expensive and you can assemble something comparable for far less on aliexpress, but at least the pricing is internally consistent and the quality is high.
@@Steamrick yeah but all the parts on their own aren't worth the price except for the fan itself. $20 for a wall plug is wild when you can get one that does the same thing for ~$4, and the stand isn't worth $40 even if you include R&D and tooling and the like. I don't know about the controller but I would wager a cheapo chinese one would get you 99% of the way there for a tenth of the price. This set would be good value for ~$50 and acceptably priced for up to ~$80, but $100 is just too much - even if you include Noctua quality and support.
@@SteamrickIt's a $35 fan that they probably pay $5 to manufacture, then $5 worth of stamped metal (if that) a $2 PSU, and a $1 fan controller. Then you have a few hours of CAD work for one of their employees. Sorry, but he's right, the markup on this is insane. Pretending it's not doesn't make sense.
@@antontaylor4530 The fan specifically is surprisingly expensive to manufacture since their development cycle lasts many years and they use some pretty special materials like liquid crystal polymers (LCP). I'd reckon the price of making the fan including R&D would be roughly $20. For the other parts, though - Yeah, they're very cheap to make.
@@HorizonMakes You will not find the stand for $4 anywhere. It’s probably the nicest part of the kit. $30 seems more reasonable. And the power adapter needs the barrel to pwm adapter cable too. Personally, I’d rather this have been the 5v fan with a usb connector and no wall adapter and have it be $80.
I just printed one of these myself a couple days ago, though I used someone else’s fan stand. Fair warning: PC fans run on 12V, so you’d actually need a 12V brick. The fan Noctua puts in the $99 fan is a special 5V fan. 5V fans, though powerable by USB, are only typically used in assembled industrial/commercial products. I wonder if they just wanted a new market for their 5V fans… In any case, 5V power into a 12V fan and the fan will be anemic. 12V power into a 5V fan and the fan with be on fire! Also, I put the Cheater funnel thing on mine instead of a grill. I’m not sure if it makes a difference.
He did test in the video the setup with a standard 12V fan on a 5V PSU (except if it is a USB C PWD brick, he didn't say that) I run all my fans on 5V so that they are quieter and it works (not on a hardcore gaming config)
@@net2CoCo i run mine on 12v and only in the 70% plus range its really noticable (besides the moving air) and i use it momentarily the cooler master halo 140mm fans with rgb and constant air pressure. works like a charm and was not so expensive.
I was sitting at my computer, browsing through youtube, when this vid came up. I thought, "hah... I already have one of those that I printed off about 2 years ago. Kinda late to the party Noctua." And then I remembered where I got the files from. Incidentally, my fan was on and running marvelously. Thanks for the stls from two years ago. Well played.
I’ve recently done some bathroom vent fan swaps at my house. Interestingly, they market their “loudness” as a feature. They use “Sone” as a unit of measurement. 1 Sone = 28db, 2 Sone = 38db, 3 Sone = 43.8db, 4 Sone = 48db The existing Broan-Nutone unit I replaced was a 4 Sone (48db) unit. It was like a torture device. Anyways, I went with the Panasonic FV-0511VF1 WhisperFit model. Has a switch for three different speeds, and is quiet even at the 110 CFM setting. It’s basically a drop-in replacement for existing fans. Their mounting solution is also ingenious and miles better than the one it replaced.
I didn’t know that! Now that you say that, sometimes there are sounds a person might not want heard and that tornado of sound could come in handy but most of the time, I just want the fan to move air and QUICK! I’m going to check out that fan you suggested and likely get it because I hate what I currently have so much. Thank you!
I made my GF and myself two versions in 140mm - even one with controllable RGB via WLED. Besides the Noctuacontroller being pretty hefty on the priceside, you can achieve a good solution with the files from noctua with about 25€ in parts. and if you bling out like i did, you can sink somewhere between 60-70€ in this - but then its hella custom. Also noticed that for this design a Noctua Fan is not a must have - with minimal sealing any fan does a great job, especially the one with constant pressure. Also smoothing the air touching parts is also helpful in minimizing turbulent air
I used a 110v fan from Amazon for $20, most likely louder than my Noctua’s, but the 3D printer funnel and stand are nice and would be great additions to a sim rig.
I wonder how that would work as a case front intake fan for blowing air right at and past the GPU. The airflow would be more directed and would push the hot air more effectively to the rear, maybe?
I'm surprised that Noctua isn't selling a 140mm kit; as I see it, the main reason to buy this is to get the quietest desk fan possible for its size. But maybe there's diminishing returns on going from 120mm to 140mm. Personally, I spent ~$90 on a Duux Globe fan. It runs at only 13dB at the lowest speed, but is a lot bigger. It uses a 180mm fan with a depth of a whopping 60mm to really be able to push air.
@@V-ns7iy Got to be careful! One positive of its strength I didn't think of in advance is that it has enough range for me to have it on a side table, keeping my desk clean.
Anyone looking for a desk fan, check out the Vornado AXL! It's a low profile horizontal desk fan that will fit perfectly under most people's monitors. Stands about 4.5" high. It's lowest mode is silent, and it's highest mode is about 8x as powerful as the Noctua fan. It's in the same $100 price point too.
Good stuff! I have two 3d printed grills on a Noctua F12 120mm. But this is a more useful solution for lots of purposes, for sure. As soon as I finish my current print, I may start printing this. The only upgrade I'd think would be to use threaded Heat Insets and metal screws, but keeping it all printed is awesome.
Did you also observe some pulsing motion on the footage of the smoke text? This is very similar to the pulsing that takes place in a hyperbolic funnel or a flowform. Is there a similar basic principle at work?
I was really worried we weren't gonna get a shredding fan/smoke music clip... but you saved it at the end! Just wouldn't be a major hardware video without it.
The air amplifier is arguably the only part that needs to either be printed or bought for $15 to allow you to convert whatever fans you have lying around. The stand doesn't have to be as good as theirs; you can make something simple to aim it somewhere for fairly cheap using whatever you like. And you can power the fan a number of ways, although the usb fan power cables that are already made up are kind of nice. I had some old antec tri-cool fans that have a built in L/M/H switch so I didn't need separate speed control, but those exist. I didn't make a stand though.
You should use a tradazoidal thread where you want male printed threads to have strength. I personally use a 30 degree single start, but a 2 start works well too.
i got a 120mm fan that will take 230v (im european) itd be interesting to put this kit on it. granted its frame is made of some sort of metal so its a little chunky
Considering this directs the airstream in a very controlled manner; would a duct like this have any applications for exhaust, let's say; as post-air for soldering fume extractor after a carbon filter? Or even with a PC to direct exhaust air away from the system. I'm thinking it might help prevent turbulent air reuptake into the filter/system.
I have a suggestion. Take a look at the InWin Mars fan, which is almost impossible to buy nowadays, and reproduce that so we have the functionality it provides, too! :)
Subscribed! Thank you for putting so much time and effort into this, at the end of the day it probably would have been cheaper for you to buy one but then we'd all miss out on this badass video
In all my years, I have never said to myself, "man, I wish I had a desk fan." I can't be the only one. What you contributed though, that was awesome! Still, I don't need a desk fan, lol.
Going to have to make this, wonder how well it would work with other series of their fans (the AF 12-25 is not an inexpensive fan, really good fan though). I have some OG Gentle Typhoons I'd love to test this on (or go nuts and see if I could toss it on my Delta PWM's I have)
The magnets should be on the top side of the base so they don't just pull out when you try to move the fan. The verticals should retain them quite well.
You can scale the model to 120mm and print it successfully - I've done it. It'll be thin and you may have to drill out the screw holes to be a bit larger but it otherwise works fine.
I wonder how well this works with "non noctua a12x25" fans. A big ol delta fan at max speed? Some case fans that blow gently? (like nf12-redux?). Also looking forward to the version that is just 4 of these combined together in a square.
Please test your 3d model vs their 3d model in air speed at various distances. Maybe you could measure the size area of the flow at 5ft using the smoke test and a ruler.
I'm thinking they decided to sell the fan just so people would shut-up about it, and probably only made a small batch to sell. I kinda doubt there here to make much of a profit in the end since they released the files for free.
They released the files in the same announcement that the fan was for sale. I think it's more of just that it's actually a really high quality but incredibly simple product in incredibly small production volumes.
Yeah I printed one of these a few years ago after you did your first video on it. There were already models on thingiverse with a base. The one I printed appears to be gone now, however. It's also a 140mm model so apparently I rescaled it to 120mm, which I don't remember doing.
I've watched it a couple times and I'm a little curious how you got your fan thing to explode on command or if it just happened to blow up during your take and you kept it in the video?
I made my own Notcua desk fan around 2015 (as many people have over the years). I didn't bother with a guide though. instead, i used a NF-A20 (the 200mm fan). The off the shelf noctua desk fan shroud only fits their NF-A12!! A 120mm fan is WAY too small!!!! I didn't mind that the 200mm fan tends to blow air in a very large cone though. and my "mounting case" was insane simply. i took a standard off the shelf 200mm fan grate and simply stuck a bit of wire coat hanger on it to make a little kick stand. then i just attached that to the NF-A20 like normal. For the fan controller, i tried a few off the shelf 120vac to 12vdc controllers, but i hated them all. i ended up rolling my own fan controller to make a true 25 kHz Intel spec 4 pin PWM fan controller. The actual Intel fan spec that the entire industry uses in online and free. A lot of "pwm fan controller" guides actually have the user changing the PWM frequency to change fan speed, which is wrong. your controller should be a nominal 25kHz with the duty setting the fan speed. I've found that PC fans last longer when you feed them a nominal PWM signal. at any rate, it would be interesting to scale up the 120mm shroud from noctua to snap on the 200mm and see how nice that is. The truth is, there is NO off the shelf fan that performs as well as the noctua and lasts as long.
tried to completely ditch the 120mm fans that had terrible performance for the noise they make. Idk it was long time ago so might be wrong with today's designs. Anyways, i made one myself with a simple 140 (from a fractal case, no idea about the specs but its pretty good for the speed its running) and also i had somehow somewhere a universal ac/dc adaptor from Philips with 6 voltage switch positions (3_ 4.5_ 6_ 7.5_ 9_ 12) model is scu3030nb/12 Pretty convenient at summer time for sweaty palms. i always had that problem with sweat damaging my mice coatings
Can we see it with some more "spicy" fan? Like noctua performance 3k RPM (110CFM) or San Ace 9GV1212P1J01 (260 CFM) or Delta Electronics PFC1212DE (250 CFM) and than see performance? Table vent are just about cfm, would be nice to see alternatives for that stand :) Ofc very nice video, thanks for all of your work :)
id love to see you design in a process driven way, thinking about the strengths and weaknesses of 3d printing and how they differ from say sheetmeal or injection molding. for example thin walls are artifacts of these old school technomogies that aren’t necessary and are even detrimental to a 3d printed product keep up the good work
i made my own deskfan airflow amplifier and smashed a FFB1424VHG-EP from delta with 280 cfm on there and oh boy it rips im freezing in like 30c outdoor temp
Fair play to Noctua for releasing the files for free, rather than them wait for bad models of their own product by others and make sure everyone has the quality they stand for, amazing.
This is the way they can just sell more fans, actually.🤷🏼♂️
@@craftyukraine I don't think anyone would go out and buy a noctua instead of just using a spare one lying around though
shame on them for making it $100. At $35 they are making MAD money, bad move.
@@informative_walrusjust that little Mount is 40 bucks that's nuts to me, there's probably 3D print files out there for 120 mm mounts similar
@@informative_walrus A Noctua A12x25 is 40$ us on newegg by itself. Just the fan. By itself.
so add 15$ for 120AC->12V fan control, the stand ($?), and the Flow Amplifier (time+filament$)
So a total of 100$ is only slightly bad actually
Do a wind test to see if your original design blows more air than Noctua's. I'd be interested in seeing the numbers.
Mass flow can only be worse than just a bare fan.
Thats now how vtol works dipsht stfu
@@jttech44I think you should do a RUclips short showing the airflow of your design vs no that's design.
@@jttech44 it's basically a turbulent-to-laminar flow guide, which will reduce mass flow but let it go farther before turbulence separates the flow
as a desk fan it's barely useful, and is probably just a neat science project/marketing exercise
As he said he won't buy the original due to price. Did you even watch the video?
A desk fan competition for the next season of fan showdown would be amazing! The goal could be airflow at a distance. I'm not sure how the fans could be fairly scored, but the concept seems cool.
I like that idea! Could be something like an anemometer dead center at a fixed distance, see which fan can produce the highest air velocity at that distance. Alternatively, aim for a fixed air velocity and measure the maximum distance at which the fan can achieve it.
Yes this is a great idea. I'd say 24-36 inch distance. Or maybe range overall could be the goal?
We neeeeeed an airflow comparison between your year old version and the updated Noctua CAD file printed version. I'd bet there's less than 5% cfm difference.
Yea! And where the heck is the smoke music!?!?
I made a 140mm version by scaling it in the slicer but the first one that i printed at 1.16x scale did not align with the screw holes so rescaled it at 1.19x and it fits perfect with just a slight 1.4mm overhang over the fan
Do you think you could increase the air channels on the 140mm since the hub is the same size?
@@justwinclassic The air channels are Noctua Magic so YMMV
How's the air flow with the 140mm?
@@justwinclassic Dunno but it only overhangs the blades by a couple mm so i doubt it makes a huge difference since the centre of the fan doesn't move much air anyway
@@uhN0id Really bloody good with the NF-A14 3000 industrial fan, paired it with a usb c powered pwm controller that i got off aliexpress and you can either go with a fairly civil air flow all the way up to desktop jet engine
Uh, that visual effect of that fan housing exploding was a little too perfect for a RUclips video... I'm not even 100% sure how you did it (parts drop and video overlap?). That was like Hollywood level of precision.
Ya part drop crop good call
@@MajorHardware Nice! I'm surprised more ppl aren't talking about it given how good that was. You can barely see the splice between assembled and "explosion" at 0.25x speed.
Agreed, loved it!
Had to watch it a few time and slow down to catch it... nice effect !
Well now I know what my next printing project is.
Didn't you have that 200mm Noctua fan? If you still have it, it would have been a nice addition to see a version scaled up for that.
i ve made two fans with my printer, love them, bought the fan controllers on aliexpress and used old pc fans
I have been trying to design a desk fan for about 2 months. So happy this popped up in my YT feed. Exactly what I needed! Only thing I am going to change is instead of sitting on the desk I am going to build an adjustable mount that can mount from behind my monitor using my VESA wall mount arm hanging down to keep it off the desk.
I came for the cool prints, I stayed for the b-roll music. Thanks James, lookin good dude.
what a great music. what is this song called?
@@MelroyvandenBerg Mattie Maguire - Racing Hearts
@@sapienscarnivorus hx I found out. Somebody else also replied it indeed. this is indeed the song.
Love the music choice during the montage
I wonder what the artist/track is? 🤔
Yea
@@jojuae Racing Hearts by Mattie Maguire :)
@@jimidjoriginal9295 thanks!
👍👍 to Noctua for doing this for people who want to DIY or adapt their design at the cost of 3d filament, and you for all the rest of the bits and pieces to make it work.
Wonder how well it would scale up for a 200mm fan? 🤔
Some public libraries also have 3d printers for patrons use.
Something based on the NF-A20 would be quite chunky for a desk fan...
@@Steamrick Have you been outside this summer?!
Someone earlier scaled it 1.19X to fit a 140mm but the amplifier center hub ended up bigger than the 140mm hub, so some adjustment other than scale might be needed
Finished printing mine! Like most people, I had a few spare 120s lying around so this will be a fun project for them! Thank you for putting it on our radar and putting in the leg work on the stand!
It's good that they released the shroud model at least. I got so tired of waiting that I designed my own desk fan instead, it has a custom PCB with an onboard 12V boost converter and 555 timers to generate a 25kHz PWM signal with adjustable duty cycle. Granted my 3D printed stands aren't tilt adjustable but the parts cost (besides the fan) is only around US$12.
All the parts really add up in cost, so $100 seems crazy, but it’s got a $40 fan at the heart of it…a fan controller, grill, ac power adapter, the flow attachment, and then of course the heavy duty stand.
Right...I was going to say the same thing. The 'kit' is more than just the fan...so looking at all the parts and equipment included the price seems quite a bit more justified.
@@recoilrob324Right fan controller and power adapter are gonna cost around another $10 in parts not including any consideration for a stand
Noctua could make it cheaper but they don't have to it's still selling and I don't think they really care to move large quantities of it.
Agreed, however there are lots of techies and hackers who have other 120mm fans, old school fan grills, and can adapt a similar stand out of some metal or wood. The only thing that needs to be printed is the flow attachment. Most people will never build their own but it's pretty cool that they can if they want. Or adapt the design for a smaller or bigger fan, etc.
@@_GntlStone_ unless your jerry rigging it to like 9v battery just for fun your still gonna need at least power adapter
So perfect thank you I'll be printing this soon I have a 120mm fan that I got gifted recently and was actually designing a stand for it this is leaps and bounds better than what I made!
Dude thank you cant wait to print mine!!!!!
The USB fan adapter is only providing 5v no? PC fans generally use 12v.
On 12v it will be much louder, because on 5v it on ~25% throttle, on 12v it will be 100% and much louder.
It is also possible that it has boost converter, the a12x25 fan only draws 1.68w, so you could easily run it at 100% even on a 1a 5v wall wort. Or it might just be lower powered.
Please build one for the 200mm fan please. Or do a comparion of the desk fan will all the different sizes :)
I named mine “Not Tuah”.
Summer 2024 can’t end fast enough.
😂
She gonna hawk on it for sure
Omg... the 80s music is amazing!
And the NOTua, omfg! Bwahahaha!
Thanks a ton, man. Fun video, for sure!
What filament was used, I like the look
I waited for years for this fan . $40-$60 would have been okay but $100 was just nuts. Thanks for looking into this.
If you add up all the parts Noctua sells separately, that's $35 for the fan, $25 for the NA-FC1 fan controller, $20 for the wall plug, $40 for the stand... that's already $120 and you don't have a shroud yet.
Sure it's all expensive and you can assemble something comparable for far less on aliexpress, but at least the pricing is internally consistent and the quality is high.
@@Steamrick yeah but all the parts on their own aren't worth the price except for the fan itself. $20 for a wall plug is wild when you can get one that does the same thing for ~$4, and the stand isn't worth $40 even if you include R&D and tooling and the like. I don't know about the controller but I would wager a cheapo chinese one would get you 99% of the way there for a tenth of the price.
This set would be good value for ~$50 and acceptably priced for up to ~$80, but $100 is just too much - even if you include Noctua quality and support.
@@SteamrickIt's a $35 fan that they probably pay $5 to manufacture, then $5 worth of stamped metal (if that) a $2 PSU, and a $1 fan controller.
Then you have a few hours of CAD work for one of their employees.
Sorry, but he's right, the markup on this is insane. Pretending it's not doesn't make sense.
@@antontaylor4530 The fan specifically is surprisingly expensive to manufacture since their development cycle lasts many years and they use some pretty special materials like liquid crystal polymers (LCP). I'd reckon the price of making the fan including R&D would be roughly $20. For the other parts, though - Yeah, they're very cheap to make.
@@HorizonMakes You will not find the stand for $4 anywhere. It’s probably the nicest part of the kit. $30 seems more reasonable.
And the power adapter needs the barrel to pwm adapter cable too. Personally, I’d rather this have been the 5v fan with a usb connector and no wall adapter and have it be $80.
What would be neat to see is this fan enclosure used with some of the top performing fans from your fan showdown series.
I just printed one of these myself a couple days ago, though I used someone else’s fan stand. Fair warning: PC fans run on 12V, so you’d actually need a 12V brick. The fan Noctua puts in the $99 fan is a special 5V fan. 5V fans, though powerable by USB, are only typically used in assembled industrial/commercial products. I wonder if they just wanted a new market for their 5V fans…
In any case, 5V power into a 12V fan and the fan will be anemic. 12V power into a 5V fan and the fan with be on fire!
Also, I put the Cheater funnel thing on mine instead of a grill. I’m not sure if it makes a difference.
He did test in the video the setup with a standard 12V fan on a 5V PSU (except if it is a USB C PWD brick, he didn't say that)
I run all my fans on 5V so that they are quieter and it works (not on a hardcore gaming config)
@@net2CoCo i run mine on 12v and only in the 70% plus range its really noticable (besides the moving air) and i use it momentarily the cooler master halo 140mm fans with rgb and constant air pressure. works like a charm and was not so expensive.
I was sitting at my computer, browsing through youtube, when this vid came up.
I thought, "hah... I already have one of those that I printed off about 2 years ago. Kinda late to the party Noctua." And then I remembered where I got the files from.
Incidentally, my fan was on and running marvelously. Thanks for the stls from two years ago. Well played.
I 3D Printed this like 5 years ago when it was first announced. Its been on my desk since.
Any way we could get your recommendations for the most effective and quiet bathroom exhaust fan?
I’ve recently done some bathroom vent fan swaps at my house. Interestingly, they market their “loudness” as a feature. They use “Sone” as a unit of measurement.
1 Sone = 28db, 2 Sone = 38db, 3 Sone = 43.8db, 4 Sone = 48db
The existing Broan-Nutone unit I replaced was a 4 Sone (48db) unit. It was like a torture device.
Anyways, I went with the Panasonic FV-0511VF1 WhisperFit model. Has a switch for three different speeds, and is quiet even at the 110 CFM setting. It’s basically a drop-in replacement for existing fans. Their mounting solution is also ingenious and miles better than the one it replaced.
I didn’t know that! Now that you say that, sometimes there are sounds a person might not want heard and that tornado of sound could come in handy but most of the time, I just want the fan to move air and QUICK! I’m going to check out that fan you suggested and likely get it because I hate what I currently have so much. Thank you!
I made my GF and myself two versions in 140mm - even one with controllable RGB via WLED. Besides the Noctuacontroller being pretty hefty on the priceside, you can achieve a good solution with the files from noctua with about 25€ in parts. and if you bling out like i did, you can sink somewhere between 60-70€ in this - but then its hella custom. Also noticed that for this design a Noctua Fan is not a must have - with minimal sealing any fan does a great job, especially the one with constant pressure. Also smoothing the air touching parts is also helpful in minimizing turbulent air
I used a 110v fan from Amazon for $20, most likely louder than my Noctua’s, but the 3D printer funnel and stand are nice and would be great additions to a sim rig.
I wonder how that would work as a case front intake fan for blowing air right at and past the GPU. The airflow would be more directed and would push the hot air more effectively to the rear, maybe?
0:08 Nice edit, I had to see frame by frame to understand how you did it
I'm surprised that Noctua isn't selling a 140mm kit; as I see it, the main reason to buy this is to get the quietest desk fan possible for its size. But maybe there's diminishing returns on going from 120mm to 140mm.
Personally, I spent ~$90 on a Duux Globe fan. It runs at only 13dB at the lowest speed, but is a lot bigger. It uses a 180mm fan with a depth of a whopping 60mm to really be able to push air.
That is rather big for a desk fan indeed. Point in the wrong direction and send all of the paper documents flying.
@@V-ns7iy Got to be careful! One positive of its strength I didn't think of in advance is that it has enough range for me to have it on a side table, keeping my desk clean.
When one prices out all the components, it still is a relatively expensive fan.
For a novelty product, I'm not going to hold the price against them.
Anyone looking for a desk fan, check out the Vornado AXL! It's a low profile horizontal desk fan that will fit perfectly under most people's monitors. Stands about 4.5" high. It's lowest mode is silent, and it's highest mode is about 8x as powerful as the Noctua fan. It's in the same $100 price point too.
Should make an extra large version for the 140, or those even larger fans they use on the D15.
This makes me think, perhaps its a good project to try and optimize a solder fume extractor.
Hi, thanks for publishing the model! Unfortunately something is wrong with the size of the screws. Could you please rescale them?
They worked on my printer, try scaling them up just a hair in the slicer and see if that helps
Good stuff! I have two 3d printed grills on a Noctua F12 120mm. But this is a more useful solution for lots of purposes, for sure. As soon as I finish my current print, I may start printing this. The only upgrade I'd think would be to use threaded Heat Insets and metal screws, but keeping it all printed is awesome.
Massive bong rips, I'm impressed
What filament brand and color did you print yours in? It looks amazing.
Thank you for designing/sharing the model.
I was hoping you might compare the one you made to theirs in some sort of shroud performance test.
Did you also observe some pulsing motion on the footage of the smoke text?
This is very similar to the pulsing that takes place in a hyperbolic funnel or a flowform. Is there a similar basic principle at work?
Excellent music choice for the build montage.
Can you link the cable you used to power it?
I was really worried we weren't gonna get a shredding fan/smoke music clip... but you saved it at the end! Just wouldn't be a major hardware video without it.
The air amplifier is arguably the only part that needs to either be printed or bought for $15 to allow you to convert whatever fans you have lying around. The stand doesn't have to be as good as theirs; you can make something simple to aim it somewhere for fairly cheap using whatever you like. And you can power the fan a number of ways, although the usb fan power cables that are already made up are kind of nice. I had some old antec tri-cool fans that have a built in L/M/H switch so I didn't need separate speed control, but those exist. I didn't make a stand though.
You should use a tradazoidal thread where you want male printed threads to have strength. I personally use a 30 degree single start, but a 2 start works well too.
i got a 120mm fan that will take 230v (im european) itd be interesting to put this kit on it. granted its frame is made of some sort of metal so its a little chunky
I think adding a velocity stack / trumpet to the back might improve airflow even more.
Thank you for putting in the work. I'm definitely gonna build one.
Considering this directs the airstream in a very controlled manner; would a duct like this have any applications for exhaust, let's say; as post-air for soldering fume extractor after a carbon filter? Or even with a PC to direct exhaust air away from the system.
I'm thinking it might help prevent turbulent air reuptake into the filter/system.
I bet the airflow characteristics change as the inflow gets more obstructed (due to filter). Question is, how much change?
I have a suggestion. Take a look at the InWin Mars fan, which is almost impossible to buy nowadays, and reproduce that so we have the functionality it provides, too! :)
Subscribed! Thank you for putting so much time and effort into this, at the end of the day it probably would have been cheaper for you to buy one but then we'd all miss out on this badass video
In all my years, I have never said to myself, "man, I wish I had a desk fan."
I can't be the only one.
What you contributed though, that was awesome!
Still, I don't need a desk fan, lol.
How about powering it via USB c and power bank? Is that feasible?
could you get a potentiometer to control it. i just wanna splice this into something and just be able to turn a knob
Going to have to make this, wonder how well it would work with other series of their fans (the AF 12-25 is not an inexpensive fan, really good fan though). I have some OG Gentle Typhoons I'd love to test this on (or go nuts and see if I could toss it on my Delta PWM's I have)
The magnets should be on the top side of the base so they don't just pull out when you try to move the fan. The verticals should retain them quite well.
Yo! Is it possible to make a pc fan using ion thruster? No moving part, no sound, it would be awesome!
You can scale the model to 120mm and print it successfully - I've done it. It'll be thin and you may have to drill out the screw holes to be a bit larger but it otherwise works fine.
I finally printed your originally released design last week.
And here I have just had a case fan on my desk via a fan header for 20-odd years, controlled using any fan software.
I wonder how well this works with "non noctua a12x25" fans. A big ol delta fan at max speed? Some case fans that blow gently? (like nf12-redux?).
Also looking forward to the version that is just 4 of these combined together in a square.
considering all you had was a static image from a media slide your design is pretty dang close.
Brought me right back to the '80s with that music.
perfect project for my new 3d printer!!
So idea if air amplifier something like cooking tower.
Please test your 3d model vs their 3d model in air speed at various distances. Maybe you could measure the size area of the flow at 5ft using the smoke test and a ruler.
Nice.. should have done 120mm only brackets to get rid of those extra bits but other than that it turned out sweet
What is the part number of the speed control?
I'm thinking they decided to sell the fan just so people would shut-up about it, and probably only made a small batch to sell. I kinda doubt there here to make much of a profit in the end since they released the files for free.
They released the files in the same announcement that the fan was for sale. I think it's more of just that it's actually a really high quality but incredibly simple product in incredibly small production volumes.
pretty cool of them to share the files tbh.
Need to see the air flow numbers! If you were with in 10% that would be a win!
Our library system has a Maker section with 3-D printers. I haven't checked it out yet, as it is at a branch 20 miles away, but this could get me to.
Yeah I printed one of these a few years ago after you did your first video on it. There were already models on thingiverse with a base. The one I printed appears to be gone now, however. It's also a 140mm model so apparently I rescaled it to 120mm, which I don't remember doing.
I wonder what adding a velocity stack would do. I’d love to see that in a smoke test.
I've watched it a couple times and I'm a little curious how you got your fan thing to explode on command or if it just happened to blow up during your take and you kept it in the video?
I made my own Notcua desk fan around 2015 (as many people have over the years). I didn't bother with a guide though. instead, i used a NF-A20 (the 200mm fan). The off the shelf noctua desk fan shroud only fits their NF-A12!! A 120mm fan is WAY too small!!!!
I didn't mind that the 200mm fan tends to blow air in a very large cone though. and my "mounting case" was insane simply. i took a standard off the shelf 200mm fan grate and simply stuck a bit of wire coat hanger on it to make a little kick stand. then i just attached that to the NF-A20 like normal. For the fan controller, i tried a few off the shelf 120vac to 12vdc controllers, but i hated them all. i ended up rolling my own fan controller to make a true 25 kHz Intel spec 4 pin PWM fan controller. The actual Intel fan spec that the entire industry uses in online and free. A lot of "pwm fan controller" guides actually have the user changing the PWM frequency to change fan speed, which is wrong. your controller should be a nominal 25kHz with the duty setting the fan speed. I've found that PC fans last longer when you feed them a nominal PWM signal.
at any rate, it would be interesting to scale up the 120mm shroud from noctua to snap on the 200mm and see how nice that is. The truth is, there is NO off the shelf fan that performs as well as the noctua and lasts as long.
tried to completely ditch the 120mm fans that had terrible performance for the noise they make. Idk it was long time ago so might be wrong with today's designs.
Anyways, i made one myself with a simple 140 (from a fractal case, no idea about the specs but its pretty good for the speed its running) and also i had somehow somewhere a universal ac/dc adaptor from Philips with 6 voltage switch positions (3_ 4.5_ 6_ 7.5_ 9_ 12) model is scu3030nb/12
Pretty convenient at summer time for sweaty palms. i always had that problem with sweat damaging my mice coatings
I feel like basically if you put this on your case fan i your case you can super-direct the airflow :)
1:58 iirc there is a USB adapter included with the A12x25
Only the 5V version
why not print the fan and housing as well?
Love this! I found a triple fan and going to make it into a Noctua. 😂
I’d love to see a DIY solder fume extractor
Great job!
I’m gonna see if I can scale this up to fit an Orix MRS25-B because why not lol
you are running the 12v fan with a 5v power supply? yep it should be quiet then..or does the cable boost to 12v?
a Nawk Tuah ROFL..
Can we see it with some more "spicy" fan? Like noctua performance 3k RPM (110CFM) or San Ace 9GV1212P1J01 (260 CFM) or Delta Electronics PFC1212DE (250 CFM) and than see performance? Table vent are just about cfm, would be nice to see alternatives for that stand :) Ofc very nice video, thanks for all of your work :)
So when's someone going to make the Hoctua fan?
LOL! At 3:55 there are so many little corrections on screen, and the last one is still wrong ❤️
You'll only have to print the air shroud
Wonder if they'd make a 200m version lol I got a massive 200mm 5v for adding extra cooling to my Synology.
Love the 80s montage music. :)
can you try the top fan from each season with this?
Great video btw. I have load of fans so thinking of making a quad fan version
Please do a 140mm and even larger comparison video!!
id love to see you design in a process driven way, thinking about the strengths and weaknesses of 3d printing and how they differ from say sheetmeal or injection molding. for example thin walls are artifacts of these old school technomogies that aren’t necessary and are even detrimental to a 3d printed product
keep up the good work
you also didnt have to have the sides screw into the base. thats just more failure points
how about a contra rotating fan?
i made my own deskfan airflow amplifier and smashed a FFB1424VHG-EP from delta with 280 cfm on there and oh boy it rips im freezing in like 30c outdoor temp