090512vlog - Lindamac vertical axis yield AND Fruiting Wall vs. Tall Spindle Apple yield
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2012
- 090512vlog - Lindamac vertical axis yield AND Fruiting Wall vs. Tall Spindle Apple yield. At the UMass Cold Spring Orchard, 391 Sabin St., Belchertown, MA 01007. September 5-6, 2012. With Jon Clements, UMass Amherst, umassfruit.com.
Fantastic work 👏 👍 those apple tree looks so beautiful and well maintained 🌴🍃☘🌿🌱✅👏👏
you are not getting old man working out side is the best exercise ever by the way your work is an art
Good stuff, Jon. Thanks for taking the time.
It was very nice to see a new video !, i've been treating and harvesting from the orchard where i work, and have started a few test areas using both these methods :-)
Good stuff, and I thank you. I totally agree about the ladder issue, so I'm limiting my rootstock to B.9. We had a nasty spring, so only seven apples out of 70 trees! One can only hope that the trees try to make up for lost time next season.
very nice Apple 🌹🌹🌹🌹🇧🇩
Great video thanks!
Thanks for the video! Keep it up :)
thank you son, very informative
PA farmer here. I'm transitioning from vegetables to fruit and this experiment looks promising for my application. I find that most people in a market setting don't want huge fruit. A bountiful crop of smaller fruit would mean more money in my pocket from fresh sales. I usually only have a skeleton crew of myself, my wife and some picking help (usually college kids for their resume) so the use of a mechanical hedger would really save countless lonely hours in winter pruning. I agree with the ladder picking. It is dangerous, but my big concern is picking speed. I just had one question, how many years does it take for this system to produce fruit from a 1 year old whip? Is it the standard 3-5 years? Thanks again!
You are right -- would require a larger scale trial to figure that out.
Jon,
The next time your going to do this let me know and I will get you a harvest assist machine to help with the high fruit!
What if you did both - with the FWT row, start with mechanical and then add a manual prune say every 2 to 3 years to thin out the trees betters . Thanks for the vid.
you should post a video on how you're hedge pruning
This is an amazing side by side. Do you have anything like this on Cherries TSA vs SSA? I am planning a 10 acre orchard in the Hudson Valley. Only a twinkle in my eye currently. Working with Cornell folks but I find myself landing a lot of your work. Great stuff. Thanks for sharing and caring.
I suspect you are correct that fruit size could be smaller with fruiting wall. This would be a concern with Gala,, but an advantage with varieties that get to large like Mutsu. Tall spindle plantings with a row spacing of 10 feet get pretty tight A fruiting wall spaced at 10' is quite comfortable (would 9' work?), and so the 20% gives an advantage of 20% more yield over the Tall Spindle. The $64,000 question will be will there be a decrease in color with red varieties with the fruiting wall?
Jon, will you do a video on how to set this up, speaking to a new orchardist like me?
If the yield differential is tiny (in commercial conditions)then opex savings from lower pruning and training costs will not pay for additional capex outlay if plantation density is 20% higher. French research shows a razor thin margin i.e. 10%. a 20% increase in density could potentially wipe out the benefits,unless on bi-axle trees with further savings on early years training costs, still tight though..
We've three. No Empire.
I'd like to try thinning with Darwin next season. I'd think that hedge would be an advantage.
This was a head-to-head comparison. Same spacing. Are you saying that the FWA would be spaced closer than the TSA? 30 inches vs. 36 inches? JC
And what kind of machinery do you use for the hedging?
Nope. I'm saying that the row spacing for hedge would be 10 to 20% closer, and so the number of trees per acre would be 10 to 20% higher. I'm not sure that a 9' row spacing wouldn't work either if I didn't need room for customers. If you are at 12' for TS, and 10' is too close, I'm saying you should assume 10' spacing for hedge.
the best fruit is at the top and ways willl be keep the top narrow
Sorry, the 20% closer spacing would negate the 10% lower yield and gain an advantage of 10%.
Someone needs to experiment with McIntosh, or Honeycrisp, or Cortland, or Empire...
"It eats good" groan...
lots of waste on ground