I've added a bit of extra info in the video desciption if you'd like to know more! And here's the video I mentioned at the end :) ruclips.net/video/CHTQC2oWTtU/видео.html Thanks heaps for watching! -Kalem
OMG!! I'm from Chile living in New Zealand for 7 years! I really miss so much Cardoon (we called Penca ).. we eat it like salad.. when is peeled you just cut it into small pieces,put some salt, oil and lemon juice.. is sooo yummy.. I really love your content, you have in your garden so many plants that remember my country and my childhood.. thank you so much
In the US, these are mostly known in Sicilian-American communities...have not seen them much in Greek communities. The deep-fried yumminess is the one I am most familiar with. Thanks for the great trip down memory lane.
I used to stock these in a supermarket produce department in upstate NY in the Autumn if I remember correctly and @mudgetheexspendable is right, the area was very Italian and people would clear the shelves of them including my very Sicilian boss who introduced me to them. They are delicious battered and fried!
I ordered a banana pup this spring and was gifted a packet of cardoon seeds with the order. It was too late to plant them once I did enough research but I'm really excited to plant them this next spring and try them. That fried cardoon looked so delicious 💜. I think I could get my hubby and daughter to eat those💜 💜 happy growing 💜 Eta: autocorrect loves to hate on me today lol
@@FrozEnbyWolf150 oh for sure, I do all the time. Wild thistles are awesome. I just meant it looks exactly like a huge version of my favorite thistle, which I hadn't seen before except in artichokes. Pretty awesome.
Can someone explain growing a plant for biomass in the same garden you're using the biomass in to me? It seems like that'd be a 0 sum game, but I guess the cardoon is reaching deeper down than most plants, pulling nutrients that might be washed in with ground water, and then mulching with its cuttings brings the nutrients to the top soil?
You got it. A lot of plants have more shallow roots, so deep rooted plants brings the nutrients etc up to the surface. It also creates organic matter which feeds soil life like worms and microbes
Ah-- "closely related to the artichoke"... I thought perhaps it was just a different variety and that you call it by a different name. Can you eat an artichoke stalk? I've seen "baby artichokes", and thought maybe they're actually cardoons.
In France we do them as a 'gratin', cook a thickish cheesy bechamel sauce with salt pepper and grated nutmeg, stirr in the choped cooked cardoons and in a dish in a 180°c oven for 30 minutes. It's absolutely delicious 😀
Caution: In places where having thistles on your property is illegal, this plant can get you in trouble with nosey-parkers and county code enforcers if allowed to go to flower.
I haven't seen this plant before. First I was thinking you are talking about the teasel (German: Karde), but this seems similar, but different. It looks kinda like a giant artichocke flower.
A question out of the box ... Will a persimmon, grown from seed , fruit. .? I have 3x 3-year-old seedlings , just wondered. Pretty trees any way. Im in Hawkes Bay.
What a great plant! I do really like cardoon and, probably, my favourite recipe is just boiled, with an almond sauce and some wild mushrooms. There's a local variety around a village called Ágreda, in Spain, called 'cardo rojo' (red cardoon), and though is more of a pinkish hue, it's very tender, no bitter at all and you can cut strips lenghtwise, put them in water, they will curl and those are ready for a salad. Just google 'cardo rojo de Ágreda' to check... (can't say how difficult getting seeds of that variety could be). Blanching is advisable not just for a whitish colour, but also to reduce bitterness, increase tenderness and avoid some of the hardest fibers. Even so, I use to boil the cardoon for ten minutes, discard that water and boil it again with fresh water. And your recipes look yummy! Thanks for the video!
That's really interesting, id love to try that. I came across some info on the pink variety, that's for those tips - it looks and sounds pretty cool! Thanks :)
As a kiwi gardener I enjoy in buckets you videos. Most other RUclips’s are northern hemisphere and they specify months not seasons and I have to exercise my aging brain to correlate it😊
I'm so happy i find your channel! And cardoons? My nonna grew those and combined them into a chicken broth with scrambled eggs and grated parmesan. It was delicious.
This plant grows wild along the back roads of Illinois and Indiana. where it was introduced in the 1800's. My grandmother used to forage it and feed it to us and we liked it battered and fried..but she always insisted we not drink milk with it...I have no idea why.
You can actually use the flower stems for milk production! If you cut them off, dry them, put them in 60C water and then add this water to you milk it will turn into cheese :)
Hi there , great and extremely informative vid there, was wondering if you could perhaps sell me some cardoon seeds , I'm all the way here in Africa Kenya and have never seen or heard of that plant.
The flower heads look a bit like globe artichokes. Could they be eaten in the same way? At least the heart of the flowers? I've eaten the hearts of some milk thistles as in wild food books, but it was so much work avoiding the prickles! Who'd want them stuck in one's throat? And for such small hearts!
Isn't it interesting looking plan It has the appearance of kind of like a tomato plant in the leaves a little bit but the flour makes it look like it's a Thistle or an artichoke family relative is it?
Reminds me of the Victorian Kitchen Garden C1986 and also Rhubarb with light affecting the stems. Great video and would love to grow some plants, if only I knew where to get seeds.
Kalem you look amazing up there on the ladder. I would love to be close enough for us to hang out together. I’m sure we would be an excellent match for friends and more. I always keep an eye out for your latest videos because they are always so informative and inspiring. Keep up your amazing work. Kudos
Your channel inspired me to start my own garden this year! I'm starting small with strawberry bushes and a few other plants that are beneficial to their growth and that I will definitely eat. Hopefully one day I'll be able to afford a bigger piece of land and start a food forest : )
8:47 is that cherimoya and if it is please give some tips for caring i planted cherimoya 5 years ago and i think i am doing something wrong because it doesnt grow much
Thank you. Amazing. I will try them as I am growing a food forest too. My first year. Your videos are amazing because most youtube videos are made either in Australia or America and their growing conditions are different from ours. Thank you for amazing informative videos.
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I've added a bit of extra info in the video desciption if you'd like to know more! And here's the video I mentioned at the end :) ruclips.net/video/CHTQC2oWTtU/видео.html
Thanks heaps for watching! -Kalem
Hello, update on your avocado plants/ video please, video from 3 years ago
OMG!! I'm from Chile living in New Zealand for 7 years! I really miss so much Cardoon (we called Penca ).. we eat it like salad.. when is peeled you just cut it into small pieces,put some salt, oil and lemon juice.. is sooo yummy.. I really love your content, you have in your garden so many plants that remember my country and my childhood.. thank you so much
That's awesome I'll have to try that :). And thanks, I'm glad you enjoy the content!
where in nz are you based? if you like I can send you some seeds from my plant
@@rachelobrien4181 hi!! I'm living in Queenstown 😀
@@barbarita8378 would you like some seeds?
This channel is like the antidote to the "instant gradification" culture we live in.
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In the US, these are mostly known in Sicilian-American communities...have not seen them much in Greek communities. The deep-fried yumminess is the one I am most familiar with. Thanks for the great trip down memory lane.
I used to stock these in a supermarket produce department in upstate NY in the Autumn if I remember correctly and @mudgetheexspendable is right, the area was very Italian and people would clear the shelves of them including my very Sicilian boss who introduced me to them. They are delicious battered and fried!
Finally, someone made a video on this instead of the Artichoke videos that are available in plethora.
I ordered a banana pup this spring and was gifted a packet of cardoon seeds with the order. It was too late to plant them once I did enough research but I'm really excited to plant them this next spring and try them. That fried cardoon looked so delicious 💜. I think I could get my hubby and daughter to eat those💜 💜 happy growing 💜
Eta: autocorrect loves to hate on me today lol
Looks like the thistle that grows in my yard lol
Cardoon is a type of thistle, just like artichoke. Wild thistles are also edible, if you have the patience to prepare them.
@@FrozEnbyWolf150 oh for sure, I do all the time. Wild thistles are awesome. I just meant it looks exactly like a huge version of my favorite thistle, which I hadn't seen before except in artichokes. Pretty awesome.
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Very beautiful plant and awesome video. Keep up the good work!!
Dang man, everything looked really good! Thanks for making me hungry.😂👍🏻
That's amazing to know! Do you know where would be a great place to buy the Cardoon plant?
Makes me want to try growing cardoons. Maybe it will grow in zone 6? A ton of useful info in this awesome vid, as usual!
I read in a few places about it being grown as an annual in areas where its colder than ideal, so worth having a look into to find out :)
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If they produce an herbicide, why doesn't using them for mulch hurt the garden?
almost onion rings when battered lol 👍
Can someone explain growing a plant for biomass in the same garden you're using the biomass in to me? It seems like that'd be a 0 sum game, but I guess the cardoon is reaching deeper down than most plants, pulling nutrients that might be washed in with ground water, and then mulching with its cuttings brings the nutrients to the top soil?
You got it. A lot of plants have more shallow roots, so deep rooted plants brings the nutrients etc up to the surface. It also creates organic matter which feeds soil life like worms and microbes
Ah-- "closely related to the artichoke"... I thought perhaps it was just a different variety and that you call it by a different name. Can you eat an artichoke stalk? I've seen "baby artichokes", and thought maybe they're actually cardoons.
Yeah dude. Thistles have been eaten for centuries.
Hey man, i just wanted to let you know that I love your videos and no matter what I'm doing, i always click as soon as i see a new one.
Thanks so much :)
At first glance, I thought this was going to be artichoke-adjacent. What a cool plant!
it is related
They're both thistles. Wild thistles are edible too.
It looks like a giant celery stick
its the same plant. artichoke is just cultivars selected for big flower heads
@@OsirusHandle I often see you commenting on all the fruit videos. You have a great taste I see!
It´s amazing to see how much effort you put in all your videos! Thanks a lot :)
My pleasure!
In France we do them as a 'gratin', cook a thickish cheesy bechamel sauce with salt pepper and grated nutmeg, stirr in the choped cooked cardoons and in a dish in a 180°c oven for 30 minutes. It's absolutely delicious 😀
Cool! Sounds great!
Caution: In places where having thistles on your property is illegal, this plant can get you in trouble with nosey-parkers and county code enforcers if allowed to go to flower.
I love the cooking segments you've been doing more of recently!
love your gentleness and warmth, keep sending these friendly vibes :)
Learn something new every time I watch a video here. 🌱
I haven't seen this plant before.
First I was thinking you are talking about the teasel (German: Karde), but this seems similar, but different.
It looks kinda like a giant artichocke flower.
A question out of the box ... Will a persimmon, grown from seed , fruit. .? I have 3x 3-year-old seedlings , just wondered. Pretty trees any way. Im in Hawkes Bay.
Hey, yep they should do - depending on conditions I'd say between 4-6 years you'd hopefully see something happening :)
@@TheKiwiGrower thanks , I hope so 🙏
They look a lot like a Scotch thistle.
What a great plant! I do really like cardoon and, probably, my favourite recipe is just boiled, with an almond sauce and some wild mushrooms. There's a local variety around a village called Ágreda, in Spain, called 'cardo rojo' (red cardoon), and though is more of a pinkish hue, it's very tender, no bitter at all and you can cut strips lenghtwise, put them in water, they will curl and those are ready for a salad. Just google 'cardo rojo de Ágreda' to check... (can't say how difficult getting seeds of that variety could be). Blanching is advisable not just for a whitish colour, but also to reduce bitterness, increase tenderness and avoid some of the hardest fibers. Even so, I use to boil the cardoon for ten minutes, discard that water and boil it again with fresh water. And your recipes look yummy! Thanks for the video!
That's really interesting, id love to try that. I came across some info on the pink variety, that's for those tips - it looks and sounds pretty cool! Thanks :)
Excellent to watch .
Morena fellow kiwi here. Any advice on where I might be able to find seed for the cardoon? Thanks!
I got mine online at kings seeds :)
This is one of my favorite plants to grow. I've only grown them as an ornamental, I'll have to try eating them.
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Wow i don't realize Cordon branches can eat 😮
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Great video man, love that you show how to cook and process what your grow
As a kiwi gardener I enjoy in buckets you videos. Most other RUclips’s are northern hemisphere and they specify months not seasons and I have to exercise my aging brain to correlate it😊
Spectacular plants but they are an environmental weed in many areas of Australia and also California so I wouldn't let them go to seed
Yes, very true, i put some notes in the description about that. Thanks for sharing that too :)
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I'm so happy i find your channel! And cardoons? My nonna grew those and combined them into a chicken broth with scrambled eggs and grated parmesan. It was delicious.
This plant grows wild along the back roads of Illinois and Indiana. where it was introduced in the 1800's. My grandmother used to forage it and feed it to us and we liked it battered and fried..but she always insisted we not drink milk with it...I have no idea why.
Your climate is similar to California. We grow globe artichokes (a cardoon relative) everywhere.
You can actually use the flower stems for milk production! If you cut them off, dry them, put them in 60C water and then add this water to you milk it will turn into cheese :)
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Wonderful video
Thank you i learned alot. I just got seeds from a swap.
Hi there , great and extremely informative vid there, was wondering if you could perhaps sell me some cardoon seeds , I'm all the way here in Africa Kenya and have never seen or heard of that plant.
The cardoon plant looks so similar to the thistle plant - except I doubt the thistle taste very good.
I had no idea it was the leaves that were eaten. I thought it was the flowers much like the artichoke. Always learning!
Very interesting. I didn’t know about cardoon. I need to find some seeds.
Once you showed that you could eat these raw with hummus like celery I instantly wanted to grow them
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The flower looks similar to a thistle flower here in Ohio..
Eating bitter foods is OK, as they are good for the liver.
Interesting! It looks like a relative of artichoke.
Im cant grow it because i live in a place were the weather changes every hour
Scotch thistles are weeds in South Australia.
It grows wild where I live , its very good for gut health.
thank you for sharing!!! ❤️
I'm curious to know what cooking oil you used to cook it?
I'm so jealous.. I want to try these but cries in zone 7a :( Great video as always :)
I think you can grow them in 7a! Double check, but they're fairly hardy and can even be grown as annuals in colder zones :)
@@TheKiwiGrower hmm fair enough! I'll have to see if I can get some seeds and give it a try! Thank you for the information!
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Looks like a large thistle
Pretty
@TheKiwiGrower,doesn't the folage of ths plant has reseblance to the Artichoke vegatable,ha?. Are they related in the plant family?.
Yup they're closely related :)
it's like x3 😊times huge than european version
Is this the cousin of artichoke?
Actually they are artichokes so ignore my previous comment. I just looked this up and the full name of globe artichokes is Cunara Cardunculus.
Cardoon are closely related to artichokes but a different plant :)
It looks like it might be good as lasagna lol
The flower heads look a bit like globe artichokes. Could they be eaten in the same way? At least the heart of the flowers? I've eaten the hearts of some milk thistles as in wild food books, but it was so much work avoiding the prickles! Who'd want them stuck in one's throat? And for such small hearts!
I believe you can, however a lot of work for the small amount you would get :)
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Love your work Kalem. What region are you in? I'm a grower too living in Whanganui.
Cheers! I'm in North Waikato :)
It's a thistle? These don't grow in tropical climates right?
Yeah, they do prefer the cooler weather
looks like artichokes
Is it the same as an artichoke?
Isn't it interesting looking plan It has the appearance of kind of like a tomato plant in the leaves a little bit but the flour makes it look like it's a Thistle or an artichoke family relative is it?
artichoke was bred from this
I just love your channel! Every video is so great and full of useful information. Thanks a lot!
Are they related to artichoke? Look very similar.
yes
Cardoon seem op
Reminds me of the Victorian Kitchen Garden C1986 and also Rhubarb with light affecting the stems. Great video and would love to grow some plants, if only I knew where to get seeds.
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Kalem you look amazing up there on the ladder. I would love to be close enough for us to hang out together. I’m sure we would be an excellent match for friends and more. I always keep an eye out for your latest videos because they are always so informative and inspiring. Keep up your amazing work. Kudos
Thanks for sharing! Just went down the Cardoon rabbithole after watching this video and it is amazing! Definitely planting it in the garden this year.
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In my country this plant is very well known and loved but i never heard or thought of deep-frying it, that sounds delicious!
Your channel inspired me to start my own garden this year! I'm starting small with strawberry bushes and a few other plants that are beneficial to their growth and that I will definitely eat. Hopefully one day I'll be able to afford a bigger piece of land and start a food forest : )
I LOVE CARDOONS! Thanks for the great vid.
Amazing how much it resembles an extra large Canadian Thistle!
8:47 is that cherimoya and if it is please give some tips for caring i planted cherimoya 5 years ago and i think i am doing something wrong because it doesnt grow much
You should have told us it's artichokes. What a lovely and useful plant!
Another amazing and helpful video! It was great bumping into you and your partner in the service station. I felt like I saw my favourite celebrity :)
Thanks! It was really nice meeting you too, thanks for saying hi! :)
oh i thought it was an artichoke
Closely related :)
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We call those bad boys thistles in Canada also it's the flower of my family lol
Where do you get the seeds please. I thought they were artichokes to begin with.
I got mine from Kings seeds in NZ - online
Thank you. Amazing. I will try them as I am growing a food forest too. My first year. Your videos are amazing because most youtube videos are made either in Australia or America and their growing conditions are different from ours.
Thank you for amazing informative videos.
Thank you, Mr. Kalem, thank you.
Im so adding these to my gardern❤ what grow zone are you in?
Nice! I’m equivalent to about 10a
@@TheKiwiGrower awesome Thanks, I'm in 10a Florida, USA. So your content will be very helpful.
Marvellous, thank you!