NASA Flight Surgeon Explains How to Treat a Blood Clot in Space | WIRED

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  • Let’s say you’re on an interplanetary mission to Mars, millions of miles from the nearest hospital, and something in your body goes awry. Say, a routine body scan reveals a potentially life-threatening blood clot. What on Earth, or in space I guess, do you do? Well now we have the answer to that question.
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  • @misscypher9857
    @misscypher9857 4 года назад +1952

    Bro that’s such a cool job. Just imagine “oh yeah I’m a NASA flight surgeon” not even a regular surgeon, but a SPACE surgeon

    • @HybridSpektar
      @HybridSpektar 4 года назад +78

      I can't imagine surgery in microgravity. That sounds horrible.

    • @goodfire9150
      @goodfire9150 4 года назад +8

      Hernando Malinche wtf you weird 😂

    • @evanwoods4774
      @evanwoods4774 4 года назад +44

      I don’t think it’s the same as medical surgery. He says he is in charge of the astronaut’s health before, during, and after their mission. I imagine that means checking, and maintaining vitals during these time periods. Highly doubt they would risk any sort of surgery in an environment we know very little about. But maybe this comment was a joke and I look like an idiot 😂

    • @arturtoth3185
      @arturtoth3185 4 года назад +30

      Unfortunately, "Flight Surgeon" does not mean the physician is a surgeon. It is just a title for a physician specializing in primary care or occupational medicine.

    • @lilhades9484
      @lilhades9484 4 года назад

      @小柏美食秀 Sure, also heres a sub, buddy, you have potential

  • @Jahu-qs2us
    @Jahu-qs2us 4 года назад +744

    "So what do you do?"
    "Oh, i'm a space surgeon."

  • @sabes44
    @sabes44 4 года назад +389

    That has to be the most impressive pairing of words for a Job title

  • @OptimusSubPr1me
    @OptimusSubPr1me 4 года назад +606

    So that astronaut will never fly again. :(

    • @99Etien
      @99Etien 4 года назад +102

      He is lucky it was discovered.... also he ist not the only one

    • @bobbycratchet3958
      @bobbycratchet3958 4 года назад +27

      It's like being told you have one last chance to watch the sunset(every 90 minutes) before it's gone for ever. Might have made the experience as a whole a little more memorable.

    • @gdwnet
      @gdwnet 4 года назад +4

      Chances are that the astronaut will never fly again anyway. Odd things happened when they were in orbit to the Soyuz capsule. forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=49805.0

    • @alexma1
      @alexma1 4 года назад +6

      I don't think there is a lot of them that goes to space more than once

    • @richardpowell4281
      @richardpowell4281 4 года назад +25

      I mean... He's already one of a handful of human beings who have ever been into orbit.... It's kinda like saying "he doesn't get to climb mount Everest again?". It's sad but still a very lucky person.

  • @idkwhatimdoing7264
    @idkwhatimdoing7264 4 года назад +145

    Things we didn't expect: *SPACE SURGEON*

  • @decryptmars
    @decryptmars 4 года назад +79

    I will never be a surgeon, never heal a blood clot and never be an astronaut, but if the impossible happens, I now will be ready. Thanks RUclips.

  • @derpy_blue
    @derpy_blue 4 года назад +28

    Space + surgeon?? And here I was thinking it's impossible to fulfill my both of my childhood dreams simultaneously 🚀👩‍⚕️

    • @littleheaven2816
      @littleheaven2816 Год назад

      َdo you still think the same?

    • @derpy_blue
      @derpy_blue Год назад +1

      @@littleheaven2816 I'm in medschool now haha I'd probably stick to the surgeon part

    • @drparameswarrnair323
      @drparameswarrnair323 Год назад

      aha looking into it

    • @tab8294
      @tab8294 8 дней назад

      Wow bro !​@@derpy_blue

  • @bobbycratchet3958
    @bobbycratchet3958 4 года назад +288

    The behavior of blood in space can also complicate the diagnosis due to the fact that blood has been known to travel backwards in space.

    • @_Atzin
      @_Atzin 4 года назад +20

      Please elaborate? Dont just leave on a cliff hanger!

    • @chef-dp7hz
      @chef-dp7hz 4 года назад +13

      W H A T

    • @bobbycratchet3958
      @bobbycratchet3958 4 года назад +28

      @@chef-dp7hz Yep, I completely agree. Low gravity in space made some astronauts' blood flow backwards. Microgravity made some astronauts on the International Space Station experience reversed blood flow. ... The blood changes happened in a vessel called the left internal jugular vein, one of two that normally move blood out of the head when we are lying down.Nov 15, 2019
      www.newscientist.com/article/2223705-low-gravity-in-space-made-some-astronauts-blood-flow-backwards/

    • @evafernandezresels3069
      @evafernandezresels3069 4 года назад +4

      @@bobbycratchet3958 isn't that the same vein the surgeon mentiones the clot was in/on??

    • @bobbycratchet3958
      @bobbycratchet3958 4 года назад +7

      @@evafernandezresels3069 I saw that as well but I'm not sure if it was one of the internal or external jugulars but definitely in the same neighborhood. Could it lend a hand to clotting because the blood also stagnates depending on how gravity is affecting different parts of his body reacting to the environment they're in? Is the problem worse in different compartments of the ISS? Will a redesign of the ISS be warranted?

  • @Scanur
    @Scanur 4 года назад +220

    Dude in the suit looks like he wants to cry really badly but can’t because he’s talking to Wired

    • @misscoffeebeans
      @misscoffeebeans 4 года назад +7

      Jared Goode yes! I imagine his wife called just before the interview to ask for a divorce.

    • @findingnory
      @findingnory 3 года назад +2

      ??? he's just speaking with passion...

  • @flimpeenflarmpoon1353
    @flimpeenflarmpoon1353 4 года назад +127

    8:37 *megalovania starts playing*

    • @sjhx8908
      @sjhx8908 4 года назад

      Your moms a woman

    • @Brulos
      @Brulos 4 года назад +1

      I was literally thinking the same thing XD Quite funny that it was an ocular problem since it reminded me of sans flaming blue eye

  • @jakejenkins8150
    @jakejenkins8150 4 года назад +52

    How coincidental. I just learned about this career path in one of my academic club meetings and was pretty fascinated and did a lot of research on this and now here it is in the limelight.

    • @tristan4386
      @tristan4386 4 года назад +2

      Is that going to be your career? To become a Space Flight Surgeon ?

    • @almthanihamza8877
      @almthanihamza8877 Год назад

      How someone go through this path in medicine career?

    • @jakejenkins8150
      @jakejenkins8150 Год назад +1

      @@almthanihamza8877 4 years undergrad, 4 years dental school, 6 years of OMS residency (3 at med school and 3 in hospital) 14 years total

  • @vinzent1992
    @vinzent1992 4 года назад +15

    8:15 What is the one thing you can't go to space without? ductape!. I just love the fact that at some point an engineer at nasa had to argue for including ductape in the weight budget for a launch :P

  • @viviennemulligan6179
    @viviennemulligan6179 4 года назад +6

    This is probably the most helpful RUclips video ever in my recommended I think RUclips is really giving us the life saving content we need now a days

  • @pulterbit
    @pulterbit 4 года назад +64

    NASA "we call it sans"
    Toby fox new game notes "undertale in space"

    • @amyblair9960
      @amyblair9960 4 года назад +1

      Outertale undertale AU where they are in space

  • @TheTonyMcD
    @TheTonyMcD 4 года назад +7

    Honestly I'm kind of surprised that this wasn't ever looked into more before. Blood clots seem an obvious risk factor to a micro-gravity environment. Have there been any past studies into this at all?

  • @cyberface4122
    @cyberface4122 4 года назад +18

    8:37 that moment when you know you have SANS “you’re gonna to have a bad time”

  • @diyaj7069
    @diyaj7069 4 года назад +11

    This should be a proud moment for all of us out here..NASA is trying to use the technology in the correct way!

  • @j_jarvh
    @j_jarvh 4 года назад +45

    I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS A THING WOAAAH

  • @chrismast2790
    @chrismast2790 4 года назад +9

    4m30s: "We lose resupply vehicles all the time". Wait, what? You're playing fast and loose with some phrasing there, aren't you buddy?

    • @daluven
      @daluven 4 года назад

      Chris Mast you can type it like this with a colon 4:30

    • @chrismast2790
      @chrismast2790 4 года назад

      @@daluven Thanks

  • @GodLeftAllOfUs
    @GodLeftAllOfUs 4 года назад +11

    He suited it up and everything, cute

  • @emiliolopez4926
    @emiliolopez4926 4 года назад +19

    Useful information I might have to use this some day

  • @HardikKundalwal
    @HardikKundalwal 4 года назад +17

    Astronaut name is sunita williams she developed a pre clot and now she's also part of next nasa mission .

  • @tom_something
    @tom_something 4 года назад +27

    I wonder if this type of clot might show similarities to clots in coma patients, as gravity doesn't play the same role lying down as it does sitting or standing.

  • @ronnybaroudi6112
    @ronnybaroudi6112 4 года назад +134

    doctor: Sorry sir, but you only have 8 more days, I am afraid you have been diagnosed with *S A N S*
    Me: *Epic*

  • @norahashoura2140
    @norahashoura2140 4 года назад +2

    Very cool episode, thank you for producing and to everyone involved - Wired is one of the best channels on RUclips!

  • @easymedicinebytmd8247
    @easymedicinebytmd8247 4 года назад +11

    I did not know until now but I am becoming a space surgeon!

  • @williamjakobsenmatthiesen3145
    @williamjakobsenmatthiesen3145 3 года назад +2

    We need a movie where Tom Hanks is a space surgeon

  • @Michellee970
    @Michellee970 4 года назад +4

    Very interesting! Thank you, @WIRED!

  • @azazzelx
    @azazzelx 4 года назад +1

    Fascinating...useful for more understanding b/n body mechanics and microgravity adaptations...

  • @dennismorris7573
    @dennismorris7573 4 года назад +4

    Fascinating and highly important medical discovery.

  • @andersonstudiosmusic
    @andersonstudiosmusic 4 года назад +4

    My only question is why is there not at least one doctor on the ISS at all times? I mean, it wouldn't be difficult to find an MD who could perform the exact same functions as the other astronauts and complete scientific studies in microgravity; say, medical studies? Plus, in the event of a medical emergency, leading people who have limited medical training through potentially very complex treatments or procedures is incredibly risky.

    • @MariaMartinez-researcher
      @MariaMartinez-researcher 4 года назад

      Many reasons. The ISS isn't that big as to lodge someone whose services won't be required most of the time. Everyone there is always working according to their specialties; a medical doctor would be required to do other jobs too. There isn't an infirmary at the station, nor surgical equipment, nor an important supply of medicines. Doctors also require lab exams, radiographies, anesthesia, the personnel to do all of that, and nurses.
      A dentist would be necessary too, with all the complements. A surgeon, an ophthalmologist, a neurologist, a psychiatrist.
      But most importantly, long space stays are very taxing on the astronauts bodies: their circulation goes awry, they lose muscle and bone mass, they get accumulating radiation exposure. So far, expecting someone to stay at the ISS permanently would be nearly a death sentence. Precisely one of the main goals of the station is to solve those medical problems for future long missions.

  • @talhajat3301
    @talhajat3301 4 года назад +4

    If that was me I would jump off the international space station to the direction of earth

  • @TheKhakPakflyest
    @TheKhakPakflyest 4 года назад +4

    Yo, when this man said we arent about to let all the robots have all the fun in space... i just couldnt have agreed more on something in my whole life.

  • @bobbimorse8460
    @bobbimorse8460 3 года назад +3

    Imagine starting a sentence with “terestrially” on a daily basis.
    Screw it i’m becoming a flight Surgeon.

  • @voitrien4726
    @voitrien4726 4 года назад +2

    I’ll have to remember this for if I have to treat someone on my next space flight

  • @brazzy2012
    @brazzy2012 4 года назад +1

    This is all so fascinating😱

  • @RahulRaj-qg5yu
    @RahulRaj-qg5yu 4 года назад +2

    I will keep this in mind when I go to space next time

  • @daverumfield
    @daverumfield 4 года назад

    This was excellent, I could watch a whole series on space doctoring.

  • @MrOuchiez
    @MrOuchiez 4 года назад +1

    WOW, 1994 Fred Savage did an outstanding job in protecting not only the astronaut's life, but also their identity. Impressive.

  • @PokeMaster22222
    @PokeMaster22222 3 года назад +3

    Move a hospital into space - duh. Create an International Space Hospital or something.

    • @beenajohnson3076
      @beenajohnson3076 2 года назад +1

      SPACE IS LIKE REALLY VAST....IF YOU ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE IT MIGHT BE REALLY DIFFICULT....SO YOU NEED A DOCTOR WITH YOU

  • @darkwinter6028
    @darkwinter6028 4 года назад +1

    Seems like a good reason to put long-duration spacecraft into a spin to generate g-forces (even if it’s not a full 1 g of acceleration)...

  • @ShawnaSweets94
    @ShawnaSweets94 4 года назад +3

    It blows my mind that they sent up another aircraft, worth millions of dollars, to send this person medication.

  • @azri_3229
    @azri_3229 4 года назад +5

    We call it SANS for short

  • @WillyWanker1974
    @WillyWanker1974 4 года назад +1

    Wow a space version of Doogie Howser, M.D.. Great story, very interesting and informative. Thank you.

  • @ayal3363
    @ayal3363 4 года назад +39

    Now I know what my future kid is going to be 🤯 ASTRONAUT SURGEON

    • @JoseSanchez-sc6fe
      @JoseSanchez-sc6fe 4 года назад +3

      Aya L send em on down to Texas and study Aerospace Medicine

    • @LemonEyesNL
      @LemonEyesNL 4 года назад +15

      If it wants too.. nobody should decide someone elses future without their opinnion or free willing..

    • @Versac3e
      @Versac3e 4 года назад +1

      @@LemonEyesNL thats a big problem with parents and thier kids.. cant force someone to do seomething..

  • @josephgambrell1715
    @josephgambrell1715 4 года назад

    the expanse season three started to tackle these topic of wounds unable to heal.

  • @neebeehayden1913
    @neebeehayden1913 4 года назад +3

    The real life Bones.

  • @cattameme
    @cattameme 4 года назад +62

    I now how know to be a doctor in space after watching all these videos a couple times each but... ill never be allowed in space, im just a normal guy who knows how to treat blood clots in space.

    • @LemonEyesNL
      @LemonEyesNL 4 года назад +1

      It is only theory.. practicly its way different so ehh you still do not know how to.

  • @josezamora2290
    @josezamora2290 4 года назад +1

    Saw Chris hadfield in there :)

  • @TheUnknownGoat1
    @TheUnknownGoat1 4 года назад

    Great to know...might not need to use it but definitely not counting out abnormal daily events just yet

  • @s.s.776
    @s.s.776 4 года назад

    My mind is so blown. I didn’t even know that space surgeons were a thing!

  • @larissaberry4560
    @larissaberry4560 4 года назад

    This is EXACTLY what I want to do

  • @suntzu7151
    @suntzu7151 4 года назад +3

    I like these space related videos

  • @enigmaticwaters
    @enigmaticwaters 4 года назад +28

    I’m sorry i know i should be focusing on how cool it is to be a NASA flight surgeon but all i can think of is this doctor’s pretty cute🌝

    • @denniero6904
      @denniero6904 4 года назад +4

      You mean you want his money.

  • @lindyquack5221
    @lindyquack5221 4 года назад +1

    Why does the flight surgeon look like the young Paul mccartney 😮

  • @nayefksa5459
    @nayefksa5459 4 года назад

    Information good

  • @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
    @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 4 года назад

    If they are prone to blood clots in space they should all be on EDTA to prevent it along with it's massive amount of other cardio benefits. Should take up little space too like 1-4 capsules a day.

  • @hornetluca
    @hornetluca 4 года назад +1

    9:02 he said that the loss of bone density is under control but it doesn't seem so because astronauts still lose bone density and can break bones easily when they are back on Earth.
    Correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @toriainsworth5224
      @toriainsworth5224 4 года назад

      hornetluca
      The crew members engage in physical exercise for two and a half hours a day, 6 days a week- to help preserve bone density. Also the prophylactic use of the supplement Bisphosphonate (used to treat osteoporosis patients on Earth, particularly those on bed rest) is currently being used in an ongoing study- results show that risk of bone density loss can be controlled through proper intake of nutrients and supplements.
      Source: nasa.gov

    • @hornetluca
      @hornetluca 4 года назад

      @@toriainsworth5224 thanks

  • @hoppermantis7615
    @hoppermantis7615 4 года назад

    i'd like to know if they were RH Positive / Negative or both ?

  • @walidalghamdi1392
    @walidalghamdi1392 4 года назад

    This crashes the whole go to Mars for 6 months in space

  • @MustangSallyB1atch
    @MustangSallyB1atch 4 года назад

    This guy described the space station as "250 nautical miles" above the Earth and I find that amusing

  • @RustyB5000
    @RustyB5000 4 года назад +1

    bro i bet they billed his insurance $234,125,119 for that resupply medication but after adjustments it was $14,253 and the astronaut was responsible for his $10,000 deductible.

  • @jorenzlorenz
    @jorenzlorenz 4 года назад

    I’m not even interested in space travel yet I’m here.

  • @eriktruchinskas3747
    @eriktruchinskas3747 4 года назад +3

    Ugh I've been dealing with blood clots since I was 13. I hope they had heparin in space

  • @nvnrmchl
    @nvnrmchl 4 года назад +1

    the background music was apeshit lmaooooo

  • @user-ye5mq9lx8z
    @user-ye5mq9lx8z 4 года назад +68

    Lemme guess: You didn't search this up

  • @C.L.Hinton
    @C.L.Hinton 4 года назад +1

    When did Fred Savage become a space surgeon??

  • @heyvince
    @heyvince 4 года назад

    I can't be the only one that thinks the flight surgeon look like Fred Savage.

  • @Zetsuke4
    @Zetsuke4 4 года назад

    Wow this introduces me to a whole new world that i didnt think exist- SPACE MEDICINE.

  • @MilMike
    @MilMike 4 года назад

    wow the surgeon looks very young - he seems to be like Sheldon but for space health stuff

  • @kevinthao6172
    @kevinthao6172 4 года назад

    They're just adapting to space

  • @DuhaMohammad
    @DuhaMohammad Год назад +1

    The background music is loud and annoying!

  • @maxximumb
    @maxximumb 4 года назад

    With pills going in to space for the ISS, do they make special pills with less filler to save weight?

  • @yashsahoo4413
    @yashsahoo4413 4 года назад +1

    What happens when the surgeon is sick?

  • @lefishe8145
    @lefishe8145 4 года назад +1

    My dream is to become an astronaut but after seeing this video im having second thoughts :(

  • @hendreeks2585
    @hendreeks2585 4 года назад +2

    Just spin the drum

  • @TJCooney
    @TJCooney 4 года назад

    Wow, Ed White in the thumbnail. Bold move.

    • @csellars7874
      @csellars7874 4 года назад +1

      TJ Cooney why’s that? Genuinely interested

    • @TJCooney
      @TJCooney 4 года назад

      C Sellars he died in Apollo 1

    • @GlutenEruption
      @GlutenEruption 4 года назад

      @ TJ Cooney - Exactly what I came to say...
      I’m sure the editor didn’t even know who it was to begin with, but still, I can’t imagine a worse choice.

    • @csellars7874
      @csellars7874 4 года назад

      TJ Cooney oh okay, thanks

  • @nightrous3026
    @nightrous3026 4 года назад

    At least they had an injectable medicine on board. Because it takes effect immediately, and you dont need to use as much.

  • @safouanayed
    @safouanayed 4 года назад

    what if we inverse circulation of blood???

  • @thekaiser4333
    @thekaiser4333 4 года назад

    How would one catch a blood clot in space?

  • @ockertvisser8770
    @ockertvisser8770 4 года назад

    Poor guy

  • @workingguy6666
    @workingguy6666 4 года назад

    This may not be a problem. Everything points toward creating a Mars spacecraft to have at least a spinning section, if not an entire spinning ship, to create a centrifugal force that would mimic gravity. None of us can answer why the INTL space station wasn't built with such a section, but until they create artificial gravity via other means, that's our next step.

  • @jossbox4794
    @jossbox4794 4 года назад

    what if the space surgeon is the person to get the blood clot

  • @weissergspritzter
    @weissergspritzter 4 года назад

    So how you treat basically the exact same way you would on earth. Just with ... a few logistical problems involved.

  • @HardikKundalwal
    @HardikKundalwal 4 года назад +1

    You could have explained that whole video in 2min

  • @dgretlein
    @dgretlein 4 года назад

    Very interesting .... it does raise yet another question, doesn’t it? While it is fantastic that we need human experiments, flights, orbits, missions to the Moon and Mars to learn more about our human limits.
    Question: were humans designed to be in space for extended periods of time? What is the limit?

  • @volcaniadread
    @volcaniadread 4 года назад +7

    This is interesting, but what do you do if someone got Corona virus in space?

    • @lawlietthetoast_1856
      @lawlietthetoast_1856 4 года назад +8

      When the swine flu went around the astronauts were quarantined before launch as far as I know. But tgeir health is monitored very well. If there was any doubt about theor exposure they would not fly

    • @derekverveer6058
      @derekverveer6058 4 года назад +3

      They wouldn't get it. Astronauts are quarantined before launches, and there wouldn't be any chance for the virus to get on any other way. Things are very carefully cleaned and sterilized before launches.

    • @simonhanlon7518
      @simonhanlon7518 4 года назад

      Tell him to keep his helmet on 😷

  • @lee.as.in.l.e.e.7394
    @lee.as.in.l.e.e.7394 4 года назад +1

    Surgeon simulator

  • @Appleloucious
    @Appleloucious 4 года назад

    How to treat bomboclaat inna speace

  • @ashoggoth2419
    @ashoggoth2419 4 года назад

    actual rocket surgery?

  • @lancej7765
    @lancej7765 4 года назад +1

    so the way to fix a blood clot in space is to give them blood thinners until they get back to earth? Lol wow, that's a very efficient new way of fixing a blood clot IN SPACE. just send a billion dollars and bring them back to earth. *unimpressed applause

    • @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
      @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 4 года назад

      Exactly, if they are at risk for blood clots they should all be taking a edta+multi mineral capsule everyday to solve the issue, it has many other cardio benefits too. They probably are already taking a multi supplement.

  • @Philip02K
    @Philip02K 3 года назад

    So he had no clinical indication accept a diagnostic exam. Heparin and clot busters used? Was any sedation used to keep his heart rate down or beta blockers

  • @darkregions
    @darkregions 4 года назад

    I can't be bothered to watch the video but I hope they stock up on Heparin and Aspirin in space.

  • @RustyB5000
    @RustyB5000 4 года назад

    how much is my copay for a visit to a space hospital?

  • @Julian-gv1fb
    @Julian-gv1fb 4 года назад +4

    I understand the science, what I don't understand is his haircut.

  • @mycool8980
    @mycool8980 4 года назад

    Make me wonder what zero grav surgery would be like n if there's any advantages

    • @marekpumex
      @marekpumex Месяц назад

      They feel less 'under pressure' 🙃

  • @beyond305
    @beyond305 4 года назад

    they launched a multi million dollar rocket to save that guys life...but if youre dying with no money on earth, the hospital wont help you

  • @drparham
    @drparham 4 года назад

    I love it

  • @aljon5947
    @aljon5947 4 года назад +2

    They probably wont let the astronaut go back to earth because its expensive, their reason is it might dislodge a clot to vitals.

  • @patricksteinsen1147
    @patricksteinsen1147 4 года назад +1

    Oh mah gawd it's sans