I very, very rarely use decks built by other people purely because I enjoy the deckbuilding so much. I think this will be one of those few, accompanied by that absolutely sweet Mardu legendary dragons deck from a little while back! These decks look like they're not only strong, but fun to pilot.
On match 2 game 2, I think it's a mistake to put the plains back, not just because you didn't draw any lands. With the Dawnguard we can find more gas so losing a nonland card hurts less. We could also draw Recruitment Officer or the Reconstruction which can generate card advantage but require 4+ lands. I probably would have put Valorous Stance back but I could see the argument for the Commando and the Cathar as well.
Feel like this deck should be playing Fortified Beachhead. Even with no blue you can still activate with colorless and it's always gonna be untapped in this deck Also it's pretty cheap so still makes this budget
I knew when dawnguard was spoiled it would eventually do something. I've tried it in modern but it's still just too slow but perhaps I put it into the wrong deck.
People ran it in monowhite aggro pre-rotation sometimes. I think the biggest problem it has is simply costing 3-mana, since white has a lot of strong competition in the 3-drop slot - which is ironic since that's also precisely what gives it so many good things it can draw for you when the ability triggers.
I'm new back to MtG because my son got into it (I left around Kamigawa block. Yeah, I'm old). Picked up a bunch from DU and BroWar in paper and just got started on Arena. I've been playing WB Soldiers. I'll have to look up some of these cards to improve my deck. Looks way more reliable and powerful than my fun but kinda bad pile.
FWIW I'm currently running a bunch of enlist stuff and token spawns combined with a couple of the sweet WB legendaries as one ofs. I'm also running 8 minions that draw a card and sone unearth stuff.
Randomly happened upon this almost 2 years later and mono white humans is probably, as Seth would say, the best deck in the format in Standard. You were ahead of the curve Seth!
I remember when standard rotated last time and people were hyped about gavony dawnguard being great in mono W that already was really good, I saw it in at least half of the decks that week and it made me feel like this one of the strongest uncommon I have ever faced. I was a bit exaggerating because I kept losing to it but was so powerful and I still don't understand why people forgot him so quickly after overperforming like this. overall I'm glad to seen that nothing can stand in the way of budget aggro.
Really interest in soldier tribal, will try to build a budget pioneer one with this one as a base. Sadly, my country BrotherWar is still delayed until next month for some weird reason
I have been playing a version of this with amazing results. I skipped the Factories as well as the 3 mana day/night creature that does what recruitment officer does. I instead included 4 more mythics, the lifelink guys with kicker that gives all your creatures +1/+1 effectively making it 12 pseudo-lords in the deck. That way a Kayla's for x=2 will usually let me remove the last roadblock creature they own with Brutal Cathar and drop a lord of some type to finish the match. The MOST important card for me has been the one mana Swords to Plowshares-esque card. It is amazing and so cheap that Thalia doesn't slow it down. That is another reason I don't run anything but basic Plains.
This deck looks sweet. Not having seen the full video yet, I wonder if another Valorous Stance or two would be good mainboard. Black is everywhere and it hits Sheodred. Black is everywhere and it saves Brutal Cathar from removal. (My biggest complaint about Brutal Cathar is that it is tempo against a removal heavy deck, but 3 mana historically is a lot for a tempo card).
Back in the days of 3rd edition or revised as it is now known this kind of deck was called a "white weenie deck" and it used a card called Crusade which for silly reasons is now banned
Neat deck. Was playing something similar on Mythic the other day, but lacked a bunch of rares so it wasn't THAT efficient. Still white is a neat budget colour these days. I did my ladder climbing suprisingly efficient as well with a budget red aggro deck, though. That prowess monk is such a good addition to the red aggro pool in standard.
The concede at 20:00 seemed unnecessary to me. You are definitely not dead on board and you have several options: 3 blockers with the land, or 2 blocks and a combat trick, or main-phase valorous stance to transform the Cathar. And you have the out of drawing your X spell to build a big board.
Agreed, the deck is ONLY budget in paper, it's a fairly expensive deck in the online formats (and there's a lot of other Rares that are useable in the deck too....)
I think it is also because Kayla's Reconstruction doesn't hit it. And, unlike CoCo, Reconstruction can hit three or four, so it is better to just pack the deck with hits
@@MTGGoldfish Makes sense! Playing on Arena, I'm ironically far more starved for rare wildcards than Mythics, so I don't think as much about IRL prices.
I am running a budget 5 color soldier with that runs Hero of the Dunes and around 10 rares in total including the new white and blue soldiers and I can't say it's tip tier, but it wins over 50% of games and it's super fun.
I think even mono-white soldiers should be playing Fortified Beachhead, practically no downside and you gain access to the extra pump effect. Card's cheap too.
i feel like myrel would be a good control tech if your going non budget, if not in the main then at least some slots in the side board since it definitely helps against control and works with the main plan of the deck as well.
that last game in the loss against mono black you couldve used valorous stance to make one of your creatures indestructible to flip the cathar and take out one of their creatures. not sure it wouldve mattered but it couldve bought you another turn at least
While I do like that Soldiers are a real player, I'm a bit sad that it's mono white soldiers instead of Blue-White Soldiers I'm a very big fan of when Blue-White is meta and doesn't play annoying control or tempo, and Soldiers seemed to be the shell for it!
Tbf the odds of not drawing any lands in three draws in that situation is about 20%. So while I agree with you the stats back it up as a defensible choice and a good one 80% of the time.
@Poiri I'm not sure I agree. You keep 3 lands and you're happy with 5 to 6 since you're running bad coco anyway but regardless you're more likely to draw gas than the lands anyway, you're 70% to replace whatever you put to the bottom with another gas card anyway.
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I think the bear came out with one of the alchemy sets. I also think it’s bugged. He’s always hanging out in the middle of the screen when I play against him.
The positioning of the Kaldheim bear was bugged for a long time. When they eventually fixed it, they made it start in the middle of the screen before rolling to the normal position as a joke reference to the bug.
17:30 no it is 100% incorrect. This deck is basically white goblins or zombies. While it _can_ do an aggro start this deck wants to grind and to do that it needs resources.
I will be that guy…… I hate how they call this budget magic when he is playing this on arena. This is not at all a budget deck on arena. I believe this series would be more value added if these decks were actually budget on arena.
Yeah, I try to make decks that are Arena-budget friendly too, but I've found that there just aren't that many competitive-ish decks with super low rare/mythic counts, so some episodes focus more on the paper budget. Last week's Miracle Gro deck was budget friendly on Arena too. www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-50-bogles-almost-but-in-standard
I very, very rarely use decks built by other people purely because I enjoy the deckbuilding so much. I think this will be one of those few, accompanied by that absolutely sweet Mardu legendary dragons deck from a little while back! These decks look like they're not only strong, but fun to pilot.
On match 2 game 2, I think it's a mistake to put the plains back, not just because you didn't draw any lands. With the Dawnguard we can find more gas so losing a nonland card hurts less. We could also draw Recruitment Officer or the Reconstruction which can generate card advantage but require 4+ lands. I probably would have put Valorous Stance back but I could see the argument for the Commando and the Cathar as well.
Seth I’m mad at MTG right now. Except you. Please keep making quality videos. I enjoy them so much. 💚💙
I don’t understand why everyone is so mad. This is not me being a. contrarian can someone please explain? (I already know about magic 30th).
@@carsonbos472 i agree, i mean heres definitely some not amazing stuff (30th) but a lto also feels really good rn.
Feel like this deck should be playing Fortified Beachhead. Even with no blue you can still activate with colorless and it's always gonna be untapped in this deck
Also it's pretty cheap so still makes this budget
Yes, I use it instead of Mishra's and it is more effective I feel like.
I knew when dawnguard was spoiled it would eventually do something. I've tried it in modern but it's still just too slow but perhaps I put it into the wrong deck.
I also played with it for a while in Historic and was very impressed.
People ran it in monowhite aggro pre-rotation sometimes. I think the biggest problem it has is simply costing 3-mana, since white has a lot of strong competition in the 3-drop slot - which is ironic since that's also precisely what gives it so many good things it can draw for you when the ability triggers.
@@Icameron259 agreed. Two mana and it'd be mono whites version of Ledger shredder.
If my LGS ever had standard events, I'd play this bad boy for sure!
I was just thinking the same thing! It looks like so much fun, but my LGS only runs modern and pioneer because paper standard is basically dead.
I'm new back to MtG because my son got into it (I left around Kamigawa block. Yeah, I'm old). Picked up a bunch from DU and BroWar in paper and just got started on Arena. I've been playing WB Soldiers. I'll have to look up some of these cards to improve my deck. Looks way more reliable and powerful than my fun but kinda bad pile.
FWIW I'm currently running a bunch of enlist stuff and token spawns combined with a couple of the sweet WB legendaries as one ofs. I'm also running 8 minions that draw a card and sone unearth stuff.
Welcome back.
Got so excited when you tweeted about this deck I bought all the pieces i didnt have... then realised none of the shops near me run standard events xD
Isn't there a product coming out today that's totally not for me?
Weird! I had the same nagging thought.
We do not speak its name!
Nope.
There's a product coming out today that's not for anybody.
@@zachgray4767 lol, very good point.
This is the dumbest gripe that the magic community has.
I always read the articles, Seth. Thank you for making content in multiple forms. :)
Randomly happened upon this almost 2 years later and mono white humans is probably, as Seth would say, the best deck in the format in Standard. You were ahead of the curve Seth!
I remember when standard rotated last time and people were hyped about gavony dawnguard being great in mono W that already was really good, I saw it in at least half of the decks that week and it made me feel like this one of the strongest uncommon I have ever faced. I was a bit exaggerating because I kept losing to it but was so powerful and I still don't understand why people forgot him so quickly after overperforming like this.
overall I'm glad to seen that nothing can stand in the way of budget aggro.
Sweet! I will try running the same deck later.
-1 plains
-1 Yotian Frontliner
+2 Gavony Dawnguard
Cutting a land and a 1 drop for two 3 drops seems dicey with x spells in the deck
Really interest in soldier tribal, will try to build a budget pioneer one with this one as a base. Sadly, my country BrotherWar is still delayed until next month for some weird reason
Seth's reaction to the bear buddy made my day
If you get the bear pet you should def move the decklist so we can see it!
I love it when Seth says spider lol. It just sounds really cool
One time I drafted an esper daytime/nighttime deck and it was one of the first times I ever ran out of cards to draw in draft.
I have been playing a version of this with amazing results. I skipped the Factories as well as the 3 mana day/night creature that does what recruitment officer does. I instead included 4 more mythics, the lifelink guys with kicker that gives all your creatures +1/+1 effectively making it 12 pseudo-lords in the deck. That way a Kayla's for x=2 will usually let me remove the last roadblock creature they own with Brutal Cathar and drop a lord of some type to finish the match. The MOST important card for me has been the one mana Swords to Plowshares-esque card. It is amazing and so cheap that Thalia doesn't slow it down. That is another reason I don't run anything but basic Plains.
This deck looks sweet. Not having seen the full video yet, I wonder if another Valorous Stance or two would be good mainboard. Black is everywhere and it hits Sheodred. Black is everywhere and it saves Brutal Cathar from removal. (My biggest complaint about Brutal Cathar is that it is tempo against a removal heavy deck, but 3 mana historically is a lot for a tempo card).
Back in the days of 3rd edition or revised as it is now known this kind of deck was called a "white weenie deck" and it used a card called Crusade which for silly reasons is now banned
I see this deck now a ton the last 2 days. Iv beaten it almost every time with a mono blue budget deck.
I ALWAYS check the description for decklists.
I would have also added in some Rescue Retriever's and a Myrel, shield of argive(I know its not budget)
I dunno, if I'm going no budget, Im putting Myrael in there somewhere.
Neat deck. Was playing something similar on Mythic the other day, but lacked a bunch of rares so it wasn't THAT efficient. Still white is a neat budget colour these days. I did my ladder climbing suprisingly efficient as well with a budget red aggro deck, though. That prowess monk is such a good addition to the red aggro pool in standard.
The bear pet was from Kaldheim!
The concede at 20:00 seemed unnecessary to me. You are definitely not dead on board and you have several options: 3 blockers with the land, or 2 blocks and a combat trick, or main-phase valorous stance to transform the Cathar. And you have the out of drawing your X spell to build a big board.
If standard was still alive in my region, I would definitely build this !
Standard is no longer offered at my LGS... and I showed up for Pioneer on Black First, and the tournament didn't fire due to lack of participation
IRC Bear pet (Beskir) was a reward from the Kaldheim mastery pass
Ugh, now I wish I had bought that master pass.
44:40 "Taking 9 to 5, what a way to make a living"
Doesn’t go with the soldier theme but intrepid adversary seems like it would be good
my decision making when looking at my draw: am i being greedy?.. if yes, don't. if no, go for it.
does anynoe have a version of this deck with just 60 cards
44:00 Valiant Veteran, or Siege Veteran? ...Yeah let's Valiant Veteran *Proceeds with casting Siege Veteran. 😅
I get excited about seeing a budget deck until I realize it’s just paper prices and Arenas economy still sucks.
Yeah this deck is like 20+ rares or something. Really brutal on Arena.
Even for MTGO it’s twice as expensive as paper! 😅
I added more stax but playing this deck in historic is a lot of fun
33:04 why not tap the powerstone for x=3?
"this mana can't be spent to cast nonartifact spells"
@@MrPluron7 Thank you. I overlooked that. Cheers :)
Never spent a dime and I hit mythic 98% with mono red when the game first released. Fast decks climb well
Bro I use you budget decks all the time I’m so thankful for them
how is this budget it costs like 22 rares
Please do some arena budget deck!
Bear pet came with Kaldheim mastery.
The bear was from Kaldheim mastery
Really strong. Played against it with mono blue and only won because I had the perfect answer in my sideboard: Karns Sylex. Nobody expects that.
Ohh, Karn's Sylex is brutal against this deck.
Totally makes sense that going back to the early days of magic white weenie is back in action. That was my second deck, and my first good deck.
If I have the soldier land should I play it?
Yeah, you might as well. The blue mana isn't really helpful, but the pump might be.
@@MTGGoldfish I know I was trying to give everyone else a good idea
PSA for Arena: That's 24 Rares and no Mythics (so paper budget only)
Agreed, the deck is ONLY budget in paper, it's a fairly expensive deck in the online formats (and there's a lot of other Rares that are useable in the deck too....)
Soldiers does look neat. I was thinking about making the Azorius version at some time.
Yes someone else built it, mono white soldiers is so good
I read the articles for Ultra & no budget comparisons.
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Wow, I'm surprised Myrel (3/4 who makes soliders on attacks) isn't here! Too expensive?
It's like $15 a copy lol
I think it is also because Kayla's Reconstruction doesn't hit it. And, unlike CoCo, Reconstruction can hit three or four, so it is better to just pack the deck with hits
Yeah currently $19 a copy on CK
It's tough on the budget, otherwise I'd probably play a copy or two.
@@MTGGoldfish Makes sense! Playing on Arena, I'm ironically far more starved for rare wildcards than Mythics, so I don't think as much about IRL prices.
Set, I am your brother from another mother.
damn, dawnguard seems underrated until now in this deck at least
Bear was a pet during _Kaldheim_ 's run. You will probably have to wait for a "flashback" special to get it now...
I am running a budget 5 color soldier with that runs Hero of the Dunes and around 10 rares in total including the new white and blue soldiers and I can't say it's tip tier, but it wins over 50% of games and it's super fun.
THE BEAR IS KALDHEIM lmao it was the mastery pet
I think even mono-white soldiers should be playing Fortified Beachhead, practically no downside and you gain access to the extra pump effect. Card's cheap too.
In pre rotation i played a UW tempo-y control w/ dawnguard, it is insanely underplayed and seems good whenever i play
The article for this deck is incredible
Thanks!
i feel like myrel would be a good control tech if your going non budget, if not in the main then at least some slots in the side board since it definitely helps against control and works with the main plan of the deck as well.
Excellent video, very fun deck!
I LOVE this deck, I might have to get it in paper
Thanks!
Looks sweet, pioneer version?
He actually made that a month back. 99$ Pioneer soldiers on this channel. Admittedly it had none of the brother's war cards that came out since.
@@eonaon6914 thanks, must have missed that one. Just watched, it's a base to work from :)
that last game in the loss against mono black you couldve used valorous stance to make one of your creatures indestructible to flip the cathar and take out one of their creatures. not sure it wouldve mattered but it couldve bought you another turn at least
Brothers war has add a lot of good white soldiers. Great budget deck bye the way.
18 rares budget deck on arena lmfao
Sucks that this deck is super budget except for on Arena, where 24 rare wildcards is unfortunately not budget at all.
Weenie white Crusade decks.. those were the days! :)
While I do like that Soldiers are a real player, I'm a bit sad that it's mono white soldiers instead of Blue-White Soldiers
I'm a very big fan of when Blue-White is meta and doesn't play annoying control or tempo, and Soldiers seemed to be the shell for it!
UW Soldiers is also completely playable, just much less budget.
Yeah, UW Soldiers is good for sure, but costs a lot more since you need a bunch of dual lands.
You are more likely to draw non-lands than lands.. Always keep the lands when you're that tight on curve Seth :/
Tbf the odds of not drawing any lands in three draws in that situation is about 20%. So while I agree with you the stats back it up as a defensible choice and a good one 80% of the time.
@Poiri I'm not sure I agree. You keep 3 lands and you're happy with 5 to 6 since you're running bad coco anyway but regardless you're more likely to draw gas than the lands anyway, you're 70% to replace whatever you put to the bottom with another gas card anyway.
Congratulations on your deck
Love when Seth Busts a format!
The only thing that can beat this deck is its own manabase.
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I saw the new goblin from Jumpstart and was so sad it's not modern legal cause it would be so good for 8 whack budget decks.
I think the bear came out with one of the alchemy sets. I also think it’s bugged. He’s always hanging out in the middle of the screen when I play against him.
Nope! It was Kaldheim
The positioning of the Kaldheim bear was bugged for a long time. When they eventually fixed it, they made it start in the middle of the screen before rolling to the normal position as a joke reference to the bug.
@@AaronRotenberg that’s interesting. I did notice he would eventually make his way to the side.
@@MineRoyale. I thought it was supposed to be Oyaminartok, Polar Werebear.
I feel like dawngaurd was looked over by people purely because of day/night mechanic
Yeah, I think that might be true.
TIL Kayla's reconstruction is top 7 not top X. I've not played it so many times waiting for a huge x.
budget deck in paper - still basically big spender deck in arena with like 20 rares ....
17:30 no it is 100% incorrect. This deck is basically white goblins or zombies. While it _can_ do an aggro start this deck wants to grind and to do that it needs resources.
This deck nearly makes me miss meathook....
I love mono white being so good for so little cash!
Lol budget in RL, but hella expensive in Arena digital economy... Go figure...
This is the deck I’ve been playing!
Sweet! How has it been working for you?
Gideon sleeves chef's kiss
YES!.
No Rick, Steadfast Leader? 😅
Huhh??? In match 2, Game 1 puts 3rd land on bottom, swears will do it again, then Game 2 keeps a 5 land hand, gets flooded.
DO NOT BUILD THIS DECK!!!! I WENT 0-6😭this can’t win in mythic
How are you missing Myrel, Shield Of Argive???? This is a no Brainer
It's not budget at all.
It's pretty expensive (almost $20 a copy and a mythic on Arena). If budget wasn't a concern I'd probably play a couple of copies.
* Seth makes a deck *
“Wellll it looks like we broke standard”
Every time lol love the contrvf
Standard actually doesn't exist anymore because Seth kept breaking it.
This deck is not undefeated, this is just lies. I went 7-4 in mythic with this deck
I will be that guy…… I hate how they call this budget magic when he is playing this on arena. This is not at all a budget deck on arena. I believe this series would be more value added if these decks were actually budget on arena.
Yeah, I try to make decks that are Arena-budget friendly too, but I've found that there just aren't that many competitive-ish decks with super low rare/mythic counts, so some episodes focus more on the paper budget. Last week's Miracle Gro deck was budget friendly on Arena too. www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-50-bogles-almost-but-in-standard
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In arena Is totally not budget
Nice
Sweeper no sweeping!!
What's this "we" stuff? I was definitely telling to keep the land.
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