Settlements of Númenor
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- Опубликовано: 26 фев 2022
- As the greatest kingdom of Men in Middle-earth, Númenor had many settlements that fell under its jurisdiction. Today, we take a look at these many settlements and the lore surrounding them! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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Additional lore: Thanks to ErelasIngor for pointing this out, some Númenóreans did settle in the region of Belfalas near what would eventually be Dol Amroth, and the noble house here would start the line of the Princes of Dol Amroth. It would be before the creation of the castle of Dol Amroth however.
I like how Numenor remained something of a mystery. We don't get quite the same in depth descriptions as we do of Gondor, Rohan, etc. Implying that faded glory of Numenor was linked to it's faded memory.
Probably it was for the best. The men from the Third Age probably didn't want to elaborate and mention the fact that such magnificent land and kingdom was destroyed due to the king's arrogance and greed.
Just as it was based on Atlantis
I’d love to see a lot of these settlements in The Rings Of Power, and I hope they don’t shy away from the horrific deeds of the kings towards the end of Numenor. Imagine seeing the human sacrifices and rituals dedicated to Morgoth unfold while Sauron laughs at his supposed victory over Men
Same with Arnor there's so much that we know yet also so little and how it almost all forgot on by the time frodo makes his journey
Do t worry it’s probably in aslan country
I am still shocked that the most important village in the entire West, Bree, was not founded by Elros, Elronds brother. After all, Bree has been the center of civilization for time out of memory. And if you happen to be traveling in the region of Bree, don’t forget to stop by the Prancing Pony and down a pint or six with me and the gang! Leave some room for their shepherds pie!
Numenor content is just some of the best 💪💪
Thank you indeed! But where would the Men of the West be without our Brohirrim?
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Númenor had so much interesting story, culture and architecture.
Too bad that such beauty later mostly served to hid the rot that was growing from within, such as the people's greed, envy, gluttony and fear of death. And this corruption was both born and grew long before Sauron laid a foot on Númenor.
"You are the last of that bloodline; there is no other"
I love learning about this island, I can tell Tolkien had his homelands geography in mind wen he designed this country.
It's beauty is matched only by the tragedy that it fell into the sea.
I personally like to think that Eru caused Ulmo to weep tears of sadness and that sadness enveloped them into the depths.
I would imagine that Tharbad would become an important city in the Fourth age. On the north bank is a statue of King Aragorn Elessar. The South bank would have a statue of Isiludur. The island in the middle would have a large statue of Frodo Baggins of the Shire. Arnor and Gondor would reinforce the road and trade would move in all directions.
Probably one of the most important towns in the fourth age. The Midway point...
@@alanmike6883 in my imagination that title is held by Celebrant City. Trade from the North and Moria and sent West and South on the Anduin. The Lord of the Riddermark of the Wold holds great influence on the open trade routes through the great city. What started as an Outpost evolved into a great city of trade for all the races of Middle Earth. With two rivers meeting into the Anduin, the city grew fast in the fourth age.
@@shadowofchaos8932 World not Wold
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Dol Amroth and its general area was also a settlement of Númenor, being settled by a family of the Faithful before even the Downfall occurred. You can find info about it here: Unfinished Tales, "Cirion and Eorl and the Friendship of Gondor and Rohan" @Men of the West
Ah yes! Thank you for mentioning. It was before the creation of the castle, but they did settle in the region!
I regret not listening to this sooner have been busy all week, and been dealing with some really hard personal times, but this video and the beauty with which you spoke and the soft musique, honestly came close to bringing tears to my eyes Yoystan. Thank you for this, as always when life is hard, the Professor and his work are close at hand, along with your beautiful videos to supply comfort.
No one could have analysed the settlements of Numenor half so well as you just did my friend, really hope Armenelos is grand and beautiful in the Amazon show, I would love it if they also published all the artwork for it so that some of us could draw it.
Man, Numenor was a lovely place what happened?!!! Power, Sauron and many other things...
Thanks Mellon, for the settlements in Numenor, it would me with Middle Earth Geography: Second Age Edition!!! (Need to look at maps of pre Third Age maps)
Thanks Again for this Video, Until *I smiles when I hear who are doing on* Pippin's ECH... *about time* Marion Baggins Out...Starting UNI for the year!!!
Can't wait for the what-if video for what if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
Whenever I think about where I personally would best fit into Middle Earth, Umbar in the early Fourth Age always comes to mind. I'm no warrior, but I could definitely see myself as a scribe or administrator, among the many that would be sent to facilitate the city's transition back to Gondorian rule. Of course colonialism is never really sustainable in the long run, and a nation can only answer to a foreign government for so long before the cries of "no taxation without representation" begin to sound. But for all its troubles, Umbar seems like one place in Middle Earth where I could indulge my love of tropical climates and spicy food, and I'd jump at any chance to ride along with a Mûmakil trade caravan.
A mysterious area indeed. This helps me understand the lands of Númenor excellently.
wonder if they called Elros half man as they called Elrond half elven
I had forgotten that there were Druadain in Númenor.
Do you read some of the story of Númenor as a critique of colonialism? I think I do.
Absolutely. Especially places like Umbar depicted the evils of imperialism and colonialism.
Not to forget an environmentalist morality story - the main trigger for Númenorean colonies was timber for ships and we know of Tolkien's keen love of even individual trees.
In later times, when the disgruntled Middle men close to some timber-centered settlements rebelled due to fellings harming their livelihood, part of Númenoreans' response was to fell large swathes of forest - not for timber, but out of spite & to demoralize the rebels. This is already approaching outright orcish behavior.
@@stalhandske9649 That's an excellent point.
@@stalhandske9649 Funny enough, the English brutalised Ireland the same way, starting with the reign of Elizabeth I
Isn’t there a line in one of the books saying that the Numenoreans (the King’s Men) sailed further south and east than Umbar? If so, they would have explored the shores of the Hither Lands at the very least, and perhaps even discovered the dark continent of the South Land.
Perhaps the Numenoreans founded a city port in Harad, or Far Harad, becoming rulers in that land and founding dynasties that possibly lasted well into the Third Age.
Yeah, it’s said explicitly somewhere that they literally went all over the world and explored every coast east of Valinor. After they had explored the entire world is one reason why they began to challenge the Ban.
A completely different topic to this video but I'd love a video on the woodmen of mirkwood in the future.
Keep doing great work! Your content is the best especially the positive spin you typically include at the end of each video.
Great topic! 🎉
Welcome back loremaster! Always looking forward to your videos.
I audibly "ooh"'d when I saw the title of this video.
Great video!
Never been this early. Great vid yet again
It took 24hrs but RUclips finally let me watch this video
Great video! Love learning more about Numenor
I like how pelargir was like the pearl Harbour/portsmouth of what would become gondor.
Was there a possiblility of Numenorian settlements in the Dark Lands and the Land of the Sun during their height of exploration or are those continents uninhabbited?
Absolutely! That’s a great point Stefan. While we don’t really have any explicit information on that, we can almost be certain that during the far-reaching voyages of the Dúnedain, they came to these places.
@@MenoftheWest which might explain the hatred borne by the Haradrim to Numenoreans if they conducted slave raids.
Love the videos on Numenor!
Thanks guys
Amazon should have just hired you & some of the other lore channels to direct their show! Your content is much better!
Video idea:
What if Smaug never went To Erebor? Love your content.
If this place ever gets included for the upcoming LOTR series the Rings of Power, I would love to see that for myself.
You can see Numenor in the trailer :)
Just a tiny thing but to me its significant...you used the term "Westernesse" in referring to Numenor. I hardly ever see any other channel use the term. I've always liked that terminology....guess its a private conceit...but thanks for the reference. Made me smile. :)
I think it is important in the story that Numenor shows that good and evil are choices not just a privilege of nobility. Numenoreans can be capable of good or evil. Peoples in other places have more opportunities for one than the other and the challenges characters face are important to the history of the legendarium.
Numenor is so interesting.
Love you videos.
Drúedain i Númenor was news to me! Thanks for this.
had no idea the druadan lived in Numenor!
This video brought to you by the Numenorean Tourism Burea...I mean the Numenor Arvheological appreciation Society!
Too soon?
A great video. It is always interesting.
Nice work dude thanks
Hello, this is unrelated to this video but I've always had this question. If the orcs were created out of torturing and twisting the elves then how did sauron in the third age continued to grow the orcs numbers if the elves numbers had been greatly reduced by the time of the lord of the rings?
Weren’t the Barrow Downs actually a remnant of Numenor, and why Elendil chose to build Anuminas nearby? And then just ruins by the time Cardolan built their own barrows
Good question! They were actually a remnant of the Edain, ancestors of the Dúnedain.
Thank you. I enjoy the history of the Numenoreans.
Good vid.
will you also be covering the settlements mentioned in MERP or are you only using the books?
Can't wait to see ring of power fuck all this up
Another great video. Suggestion: try to get Stephen Colbert on the channel. It's a long shot maybe, but would be awesome.
I wonder if there are settlements farther south.
Yay
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I don't know why but RUclips will not let me watch this video, I've been trying for about 10 minutes, the thing just keeps spinning, I'll try again tomorrow
Great vid as usual 👍
What if Frodo was never stabbed at weathertop. Would he have still left middle earth.
I think so, because of his poisoning by Shelob, his wounding by Gollum, and the fact that he, Bilbo (and eventually Samwise,) were all Ringbearers.
@@Brando64 yeah, but would he have stayed longer, like when he and Sam were old like bilbo.
Still awaiting the settlements of Arnor video
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Is Orthanc one of the Númenors' settlements? If yes, what was the purpose of it?
It was, it was called Angrenost. It was likely built under Gondor when Anarion and Isildur founded the realm. It was a watchtower and a fort in the region as Calenardhon, which was later called Rohan. It was a middle settlement between the North and South kingdoms, like the Hornburg, it was a good position to have a garrisons and watch their borders. I know this is an old comment.
Do we ever find out who held sting in Gondolin?
Not definitively, but I always like to think it was made for a young Eärendil!
@@MenoftheWest I like that, I would love to see this time of the lore brought to screen love it big fan of your channel
@@MenoftheWest, I read that Sting belonged to Maeglin. Forged by Eol. However I'm getting old and can't remember where I read that. Possibly in one of the 12 books of the history of Middle Earth.
@@MenoftheWest I kinda like that it’s a mystery. It really solidifies Bilbo and Frodo in the legendarium and how their accomplishments although aided were because of their bravery, tenacity, and resilience. I feel like if you make that blade anything more than what it already was it begins to take away from the accomplishments of Bilbo and Frodo. Just my opinion but if I had to go with somebody I like the idea of a young Eärendil.
Annulond? Lond Galen?
its along the coast
Ah thanks for mentioning these! They are not canon unfortunately!
@@MenoftheWest haha too many TW Divide and Conquer, sorry bro
keep up the good work ;)
To bad that no one owns the movie rights!
Wouldn't the first settlement be a port and not in land. Even today we build on water ways.
It's like Rome and Ostia.
I'm excited to see this settlements in the Rings of Power TV series.
Contrary to recent comments by a so called "Tolkien expert" Numenor was not near the equator because the world was flat until after its destruction.
The settlements of Numenor or here is another shiny white city 🤣
Great knowledge here but the pronunciations are a big ouch
The key is entirely whether you going to schill for the Amazon abomination or stick to your fans. If you positively cover this upcoming disgrace you lose most of your active viewers and maybe gain some normies. You call.
So here’s the deal: If I think it’s not a good show, I’m going to say it’s not a good show. If I think it’s a good show, I’m going to say it’s a good show.
Please don't speak for all of us. I'm sure plenty of us will stick around here regardless of what happens with the show - I certainly intend to.
Here’s a novel idea, if you don’t like the show don’t watch it and leave the people who want to at least give it a chance in peace. I know this might come as a shock for some people, but no one actually cares about your opinions.
Notice he says good or bad show. Not good or bad adaption of Tolkiens work and indo European mythos. These RUclips channels going full one ring dot net is disturbing. Nerds just have no back bone. They would have stayed home in Bree while the men of the west fought the war.