Fall Camp 2018: Side control bottom with Priit Mihkelson
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Understand what he is saying about how wrestlers fight for underhooks and how hard wrestlers defend underhooks with hand fighting, if u could do that in a standing position u could do it on the ground. It makes total sense to use a wrestlers mentality in conjunction with bjj, combine both arts together?
BJJ is basically a culmination of all grappling nowadays
@@Neviksir agreed but traditionally bjj hasn’t emphasized the importance of defending against underhooks nearly enough. The best guys all do it intuitively but it needs to taught you students earlier. There is no reason to accept the cross face side control position first and then work to put in frames.
@Andrew Onymous evolved not irrelevant
American jui jitsu.
One of the best defense strategist.. defence first, offence post blue belt. OSS!
Awesome :-)
You’re so right about the fallacy of authority in jiujitsu. If some techniques don’t come from a certain champion or whatever it doesn’t count. But the criteria should be if it works or not. And we can see these techniques in competition anyway.
Damn It's so cool this is on RUclips for free! So helpful for a two stripe white belt!
Priit is such a great mind for the white belts out there :-)
Doesn't matter about belts, leave belts out of your mind and focus solely on the art.
Going for my 2 next month.
Watched this yesterday and applied it tonight at open mat. Really useful and works well. Thanks.
It really is amazing how quickly you can implement this stuff. It doesn’t take months and months of practice to be able to see the value.
@@kogrady2409 months of practice definitely helps. but if you understand basic fundamentals of biomechanics and what is needed to attack, then these postures become like a godsend.
The weird thing is my professor doesn’t teach any of this and would probably disagree with me doing it, but I find these postures and ideas more effective than the side control escapes taught in class. We teach from straight on your back, frame, hip up, and then hip escape. That never works on anyone strong or who knows jiujitsu. A brand new guy it will work but anything will work with them that’s not pure strength. These ideas you’re teaching I can understand more easily than the techniques taught in class, and when I apply them they work even against higher belts. I still have more to learn but if it wasn’t for this stuff I’d be getting much more wrecked by upper belts. It used to be after getting my guard passed I’d just wait to get tapped out and sometimes I’d tap early just because I was bored of waiting for them to submit me. Because again they teach the defenses but the defenses never work against someone better, or someone bigger who knows some jiujitsu. The regular escapes don’t work on them it just ends up being strength vs strength and thrashing around. But the Priit stuff for me is so effective it started working as soon as I tried it. I was never comfortable giving side control or turtle but now I am comfortable to even start in those positions and work on these defenses. It makes defense a fun game and makes like losing guard and stuff less of a big deal. It’s not like if I get my guard passed I may as well forfeit.
@@kodiakcombatcollectivesometimes it is really hard to find reasonable coaches. I have tried 4 different gyms, but the region I am living in now has a very bad mentality.
Pritt listen,I'm so glad guys guys like you exist,I will be waiting for your videos,I've been working bottom side control ,it's amazing.i can escape and recover much ,much better .freaking awesome!!! I can't wait
Me too. I cant tell you how many times ive googled turtle defense and have been fruitless. I love defense and concept oriented teaching. And hes right. Its severely lacking in bjj
Super excited to go to Priit's classes in the 2019 camps.
How was it??
@@badgoat666it was good man. Estonia is a beautiful country. He’s a little rough around the edges but I think he’s got a bit more friendly since I went haha. That was when he was just gaining traction. Really smart guy, I use his stuff to this day to survive and catch transitions to better positions.
Genius. Beautiful to see challenge of conventional wisdom"" thank you for sharing. Sensei.
51 minutes of Gold. Great stuff
This is the kind of Jiu Jitsu that I’m talking about!
The odd thing is I've incorporated a lot of these 'techniques' unconsciously over the years, but I thought it was me becoming 'sloppier'. I just found that these are less 'energetic' routes, and have been intuitive. Pritt of course has taken this to the next level.
I feel the same. For instance ive been doing hawkin without knowing its hawkin and just thought i was doing sloppy jiujitsu or anti jiujitsu and just being an annoying partner. Its interesting to find out that ive been just doing unorthodox jiujitsu and im making my partners better by having to refine their attacks.
@@Seegie16 i think its just our odd way of learning wrestling..
this guy talks a lot of sense excellent information
I don't know why , but I like that he clarified how he has the best turtle after Eduardo Telles. With that clarification, I believe him. Anyways, thank you for this great video.
Greco-Roman Jiu Jitsu
Tried this in class today as I didn't want to turn into my opponent and have him flatten me out.He and my coach weren't happy. :)
Beautiful concept. Amazing
"I'm the filter. Try and you will fail." Classic.
7:00 How can you sit and look at your phone (guy in the back), while someone gives you such great advice???
It's a long week with 12 hours of classes a day, no wonder people can't keep attention to everything being said :)
He's probably telling the guy "dude, I can't believe you missed this seminar". Hehe
Baby bridge... I hope I ever learn this concept. It looks like a game changer
I’m interested to see what happens when you add strikes but or even a gi
0:29 naked guy casually walks by in the background.
I pray to The Turtle God before every class.
Thanks
To summarize this seminar , he pretty much said, the only time Jitcu doesn't work is if you don't participate.. Be a Log! Lol
I Like IT! Very much actually
What about North South chokes?
They don't work as long as he keeps his head on the mat. You cant get under his near side neck.
I tried it several times at his seminar no chance at all (92kg purple belt with a decent north south choke in competitions)
The angle is way off for the north south choke and you can't get the necessary control to secure it
What about in the gi? If I roll facing away, aren't I set up to get bow & arrow choked if my training partner can get his arm under my head?
Look at his back escapes vid, he positions his upper back in a way to nullify the choke (if you get there in the first place).
stephen hawking.
No hook or underhook, no bow and arrow choke. I let people get fully locked in b&a chokes and escape 'like magic' because I don't let them have a underhook or hook
nope. think about ANGLES. murder the angle and you have no attacks
@@Brahvooo underrated
36:21 sit up escape controlling hand
I understand defeating the taking of the back or defending, the taking of the arm bar ,but this looks counterproductive to me .
I thought this stuff was a joke at first but I guarantee if you actually try these postures in class and put in some work with them your defense will improve dramatically. It 100% works.
@@kogrady2409 while rolling with a four striped brown belt, I find when he does the knee slice, I can get to the hawking, but he likes to grab the bottom side wrist and pull it up to put me flat on my back. I transfer to the running man from there when I have the time. How do I correct that small mistake of letting him grab the wrist to put me flat on my back from the knee slice? side note: my turtle defense has massively improved since finding Pritt and his teachings. Thank you Pritt for the great videos to learn from. I have one last video to purchase and its the running man/ baby bridge one...
i liked this
But this is not the kind of BJJ you'd teach to a MMA fighter. I tried in BJJ sparring and it works beautifully, but if punches and kicks are involved, then you will have to use your hands and move around.
... you missed the entire point. and fyi priit never said to not use hands. but get your priority straight so you do NOT have to needlessly waste energy doing stupid crap with your hands - focus on your posture first
and also if you actually paid attention to his stuff you see it is far more dynamic and safer than what is currently Taught in jiu jitsu schools
@ahmedeox Watch some more of Priit’s videos on here. You are definitely missing the point. The postures are enormously effective in MMA as well and Priit references lots of UFC fights where you can see similar postures being used. Of course you need to hand fight but the postures put you in a great position to do so more effectively than lots of standard defenses.
Listen at x1.5 speed
Skip to 31:50
I like the techniques, but they don't seem to address striking. That's one of the real reason you don't give up your back.
yea all this stuff is pure sport grappling.
in a real fight you look to only be in those positions for a minimal amount of time...sport grappling allows you to develop these skill sets
Go to 42:00. He explained that you start learning the fundamental concepts of protecting against the underhook using this and then you gradually open up more as soon as you develop the timing and good habits. Same as boxing, you start with the best defense (i.e. peek-a-boo style) and you gradually go to more advanced tech (dropping your hands). The aim is to improve your passive defense and then eventually progress to being more active. This is great to maintain consistency in training because there are days when you have to roll light and it is easier to maintain motivation when you're not getting pinned all the time. He also explained in another video that his club also improved their offense because of their strong defense.
@@0b3ryn29 fantastic explanation! These techniques are definitely effective in MMA and Priit references lots of fights where you can see them implemented beautifully.
18:46...if the oponent sinks the RNC and smashes the jaw in that position?
Jordan peterson of jiu jitsu. These rules to survive side control:
Dont lay flat
Dont get underhooked
Dont separate the arms
Active legs
If this thing is so good how come this guy has almost no competition record to find and the only footage I can find of him is him getting smashed in some Estonian competition five years ago? I'm very suspicious of someone claiming something is revolutionary when it seems to have no evidence of working in serious competition. I think there's something wrong with someone unironically claiming something is perfect when it's effectively unproven.
Competition success is not a good gauge of technical knowledge.
Most great coaches at least have video footage around of them demonstrating their abilities in some kind of competition, unless they're total cripples like Danaher, but his students speak for him. No footage of either him or his students proving its effectiveness in real competition? Danaher takes teenagers and turns them into elite competitors in adult divisions... for me that's proof that a system is successful. I'm not even saying that some of the concepts that he shows aren't good, but he doesn't seem to get that you can't go around proclaiming that your whatever is the best and that your system is revolutionary when your only evidence is bashful seminar attendees trying to noodle around with your elbows a bit. It's simple, all he has to do is release footage of either him or his students being impenetrable in high level competition and then his claims would be justified.
Hey I see where you're coming from with your comment, BUT.. did he get tapped in that competition? He didn't, and if you go back and analyze that video, you can see that's where he was using these techniques a bit. I'm guessing that was when he was still crafting the techniques he's teaching here.
We had Pritt come in to the Faria Academy recently. He showed us some turtle defense and immediately upon showing us, the people that attended that class are now almost impossible to clock choke or get the hooks in. He rolled with us. I personally rolled with him and he spent the whole roll letting me try to take his back and then hed actually pull side mount bottom just to mess with me. It was like catching a ghost. It was awesome. Pritt is awesome. Will his style win you ibjjf gold? Perhaps not. Will it keep you safe and make it so you dont spent a who;e roll in a shitty position? Yes! and who beside him and Telles are really preaching serious defense?
@@Seegie16 Yes! More importantly it throws people off so much, they make mistakes and I'm able to capitalize and get back takes, spider web position off of their mistakes.
Lead from the bottom, greco roman from the bottom.
Boxing analogies.
This is pure gold.
Thank you!
Watched this and a couple other long pritt videos yesterday. Tonight in class i did not get subbed once. Changed my life.
I want to go all the way back to white belt again to relearn all these skills. Lol
watching this video you really have to question what side control is. If you have passed Pritts guard are you really in control of anything? Its like we only see this as a less dominant position bc we are so shit at it.
marcelo garcia has that turn your back position in his repertoire (look side control escape "HIP-ROLL") but not as accomplished as priits is. i find this this even more brilliant the more i see connections to fighters like marcelo.
Don't be flat. Elbows tight. Never give underhooks (wrist fight). Head to mat.
I have been doing similar things over the years without self awareness. Thanks for this exceptional clip, I think i could finally further improve my techniques, all thanks to your explanation.
Same here and Ive often thought I was on to something but could never figure out full execution. Im going to buy his dvd to help me connect the dots.
All of the best grapplers are doing similar things intuitively but I’ve never seen anyone break it down and explain the postures the way Priit does. It’s helped my game tremendously.
There is a brown belt in class that loves to grab the bottom arm and flatten people. I was never aware of what he was doing, I was more focused on him passing the guard to side control. I fell victim every time because the grabbing of the bottom arm. The running man has taken away his arm grabbing technique because it forces me to remember to hide the bottom arm from being grabbed. Here in the states they mostly show attacks and maybe one or two counters to the attack if they have time to show it. Priit's system has worked for me and it has also helped me correct and see some of the mistakes I make during my rolls with other students. Happy new year!!!
Love this guy! So honest , So wise
jumps around between points and topics, imports trendy scientific terminology, says everyone is wrong but him, feels like he's putting on a show: I smell a conman guru
I thought you were insane. Turns out it was not so! Thank you for sharing.
Negative jiu jitsu
Priit is the BEST!
Oss
Better not to program yourself for Jiujitsu that will most definitely get you punched in the face if you use it when you need it. Also much of this loses efficacy past white belt.
Who is he talking about at 38:25, it sounds like (Vin "something" in his mirrory class). Anyone know?
ruclips.net/video/YSBCZfIT20s/видео.html
"Wim was talking about it in his mirroring class". Link is my other comment.
Some brilliant concepts and ideas but damn he could use some people skills