Competition testing Defensive BJJ system (7 matches, 7 wins by submission, no points conceded)

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @jimster805
    @jimster805 3 года назад +381

    i can't wait for double turtle pull

    • @juanjesusdavidedeocampo7243
      @juanjesusdavidedeocampo7243 3 года назад +3

      I am legitimately curious as to what priit would say about this. PRIIT if you’re out there reading these comments, please enlighten us 😂

    • @bryceolsen3527
      @bryceolsen3527 3 года назад +7

      I feel like I've seen this before in pokemon...

    • @xaina1
      @xaina1 3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @mdscc
      @mdscc 3 года назад +1

      Hah

    • @badgoat666
      @badgoat666 2 года назад

      It's a me Mario! Boing, boing.

  • @danieldelanoche2015
    @danieldelanoche2015 3 года назад +183

    "How to annoy an entire tournament" lol it was a lot of fun to watch!

  • @calebthroop6399
    @calebthroop6399 3 года назад +83

    This was entertaining. You could see the “God damn your so annoying” all over their faces.

  • @guam58
    @guam58 3 года назад +68

    Turtle position is one of the most useful and underrated defensive positions in jiu-jitsu. I know many argue that it is stalling, but he was proving several points. One point it is a useful defense. Second point it was frustrating opponents. Third when you get frustrated you make mistakes. Fourth it is a very powerful leg attack technique. Great content and thank you for sharing.

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +3

      🤜🤛

    • @thomasmosby9150
      @thomasmosby9150 3 года назад

      The only problem with this that I see is if you weren't in a competition, you could get kicked in the head. Orange if you are in a comp you could just stand up

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +12

      @@thomasmosby9150 But we are in the competition and not somewhere else ...why bring that argument in?

    • @thomasmosby9150
      @thomasmosby9150 3 года назад

      @@DefensiveBJJ I'm just thinking in a broader aspect. I'm guessing you would approach differently in a mma or self defense situation. The defense from turtle is actually really cool to see, and I like the entries into leg attacks

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +8

      @@thomasmosby9150 Of course the approach would be different if we decided to test it in those places 🙂 ...happy you like it and I appreciate you understand the context!

  • @Monkstameth
    @Monkstameth 3 года назад +32

    Coach: "make some points also."
    Makes some points.
    Coach: "2 minutes left. (Finnish him.)"
    Finnishes match.

  • @tapskill3
    @tapskill3 3 года назад +24

    His using the Prit Turtle, Panda, Running Man, and please notice, he never gives up under hooks. Professor Prit would be very proud to see his turtle system working . Outstanding!
    Coach Al

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +23

      I am actually the one who is filming it all :)

    • @raoul7923
      @raoul7923 3 года назад +7

      Priit was the one filming and coaching

  • @backwardwalker
    @backwardwalker 3 года назад +27

    I've watched this over and over. It shows how extremely difficult it is to use any technique against correct Defensive postures. It shows how 90% of our usual thinking about taking the seatbelt, about guillotines, about getting the hooks, about turning away, about passing the guard to side control is simply false. The most interesting video I have seen in years. And this is just defense. I am eager to see the same thing but with reversals and escapes.

    • @MikeMace-c7l
      @MikeMace-c7l 3 года назад

      A kick in the head. Very efficiente against this "defense"

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  2 года назад +4

      Luckily that is not allowed in our sport, so it's not really anything to worry about :)

  • @pixelcultmedia4252
    @pixelcultmedia4252 Месяц назад +1

    I already had a sambo victor roll game, so Turtle Guard dovetailed perfectly into that.

  • @Leonardfilming
    @Leonardfilming 3 года назад +37

    No one had an answer to his game plan. Most of them were confused what was going on.

    • @rawesome1000
      @rawesome1000 3 года назад +3

      opponent could have stood up and looked at the ref for a stalling call?

    • @E.J.Crunkleton
      @E.J.Crunkleton 3 года назад +4

      Thats pretty common when you introduce a new strategy nobody has seen.
      It won't take long for someone to develop a counter.

    • @Monkstameth
      @Monkstameth 3 года назад

      Rules are rules. They are sometimes in the way of a sport. "Question authority" -Priit

    • @Monkstameth
      @Monkstameth 3 года назад +2

      @@E.J.Crunkleton this is how Priit teaches attacks. The first to know how to counter this defence are his students.

    • @ongobongo8333
      @ongobongo8333 3 года назад +2

      that's because he's far more experienced than his opponent. this isn't a real strategy. it's just stalling

  • @DAIXINYI
    @DAIXINYI 3 года назад +8

    Raoul is my spirit animal, I love the combination of defensive BJJ and leg attacks.

    • @raoulaudhoe6363
      @raoulaudhoe6363 2 года назад

      check out my attacking from turtle instructional.... I think you will like it

  • @leelastname7628
    @leelastname7628 3 года назад +19

    They’re all kind of confused by what your doing. None of them really had a systematic approach to trying to separate your arm from your leg from turtle to expose the hip to get a hook in. Lots of floating around to various positions. Great job though!

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +8

      The first defensive layer has that effect on people that it makes them look less skilled than they are

  • @Blacktorch27
    @Blacktorch27 3 года назад +40

    My favorite grappling styles and strategies are those that can apply to a striking situation as well, but I love the point(s) you're proving here. Keep it up man 👌

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +2

      Well look at the Robby Lawler vs Colby Covington first round and you can see what is possible 😎

    • @Blacktorch27
      @Blacktorch27 3 года назад +17

      @@DefensiveBJJ just watched it, and its impressive but I think the difference is you can't strike the back of the head in MMA. I hate to be the "IN THE STREETS THAT WOULDNT WORK" guy, but I think that argument is valid here.

    • @Blacktorch27
      @Blacktorch27 3 года назад +3

      @@DefensiveBJJ for grappling or mma contexts though, this is a pretty damn fool proof system.

    • @Deadward1113
      @Deadward1113 3 года назад +1

      @@Blacktorch27 I agree 100%.
      Regardless.. sick 🐢 game

    • @jake3922
      @jake3922 3 года назад +2

      @@Blacktorch27 fool proof against non-wrestlers.

  • @nukenfry
    @nukenfry 3 года назад +11

    A clear usage of the Eduardo Telles game. Often overlooked but the dude has the most impenetrable guard.

    • @Hazama91350
      @Hazama91350 3 года назад +1

      That's what I thought but this is no gi, with the gi I won't be so sure

    • @nukenfry
      @nukenfry 3 года назад

      @@Hazama91350 In gi it works even better because you get pant grips.

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      🤜🤛

    • @LOLLYPOPPE
      @LOLLYPOPPE 3 года назад

      This clown could’ve been choked within 10 seconds if he met someone worthwhile. These people are total newbies

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +2

      @@LOLLYPOPPE well …it was a advanced division + we also filmed 3 videos that are also on this channel addressing the chokes example

  • @alope4217
    @alope4217 3 года назад +12

    Interesting. Why wouldn’t good defense work if there were strikes? For someone to strike they would need to create some distance. When there is some separation couldn’t Raul stand up or move to a safer position? If someone stood up to soccer kick him, couldn’t he stand up as well (before he gets kicked)? I doubt someone would stay in turtle to defend soccer kicks. Seems to me like we get in the most trouble when we allow under hooks, 2 on ones, seatbelts, etc (whether there are strikes or not). I doubt that in a fight someone is simply going to throw Raul to the ground and land kicks, punches, knees, and elbows while he stays in the turtle position. He could have stood up in these matches whenever he wanted to.

    • @ivanivan5511
      @ivanivan5511 3 года назад +1

      bruh this guy would smash you in a matter of secs. Sorry.

    • @RonniiV
      @RonniiV 3 года назад +7

      @@ivanivan5511 He’s complimenting the guy, not criticizing. Why are you saying the guy in the video could smash him? That has nothing to do with what the comment is about.

    • @peekaboojujitsoo525
      @peekaboojujitsoo525 3 года назад

      Yes finally somebody gets it. But there will always be nay sayers and know-it-alls.

    • @Firstname_Surname
      @Firstname_Surname 3 года назад +1

      You are in a disadvantaged position and can get hit from many different angles, even if you stand up you're exposing your backside without proper sight. Regardless of how you look at it, it's not a good position for striking.

    • @harleysosbe272
      @harleysosbe272 3 года назад

      Sprawl and elbow the back of the head would be my first guess if striking was involved it's just not good in a real fight to end up in turtle but it's very important to be able to move from there

  • @davidboyle9732
    @davidboyle9732 3 года назад +2

    at 1:21the cheers for defensive bjj are quite loud...

  • @capicornboss
    @capicornboss 3 года назад +5

    This was awesome to watch! I'll be trying this at my academy. I have a more defensive game so I'm happy to see a whole system dedicated to defense techniques! I'm really excited about this! Oss 🤙🏿

  • @vartanbjj3192
    @vartanbjj3192 3 года назад +6

    Очень интересно было видеть в действии! Очень положительные впечатления. Столь спокойная, неспешная и экономная стилистика сохранности позиции. 🙏

  • @hermixtonen
    @hermixtonen Год назад

    I am a black belt, but realize there are (and maybe always be) areas to explore in which I am a novice. This system is one such area (although I often use running man when people have my back, and it almost always works). Here is my big question - when doing Priit’s turtle, with the forehead serving as a post, what happens if the top player puts a great amount of force (a knee, a shin, a falling shin, a forearm with some falling body weight behind it ) directly across the back of the turtle player’s neck? And if that is survived (I would think that would be a big “if”) what happens when top player keeps doing that over and over, with more force each time? It appears as though it could lead to a massive neck injury, and that perhaps the Priit turtle position is relying on people being “too nice” to do that ? Any answers are appreciated

  • @mentorhackerspodcast4164
    @mentorhackerspodcast4164 3 года назад +2

    Some of y’all forget the most important principle of jiu jitsu is to not die! If you win, you win. If you tie, you didn’t die!

  • @rodrigorezende5841
    @rodrigorezende5841 Год назад

    Great video and this system coupled with more wrestling looks like it can be absolutely devastating yet timeless and safe. I love it. I am a purple belt in Australia hooked to Priit's work.

  • @davidcastillo4487
    @davidcastillo4487 3 года назад +9

    Well it was fun to watch. I'd say the way to counter is more wrestling. Turtle is classically how you build a base back up. So wrestlers are more used to dealing with the position. Good defense on this dude's part though. Thanks for the video.

  • @eia14
    @eia14 Год назад

    Ok... I'm convinced Priit lol. Going to start studying it and trying it. Any recs on what DVD to get first?

  • @JSMinstantcoaching
    @JSMinstantcoaching 3 года назад +10

    It's good to watch this performance in situation. Bringing a lot on the table. Can we say that within the system, there is definitely an hierarchie for positions, making the turtle one the most important associated with panda, and then the three other ones would follow? At least now, competitors will work on bringing some answers to the table :-)

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      You might say that there is a hierarchy but I would say there is more than one

  • @KonaDaGamah
    @KonaDaGamah Год назад

    Play smarter not harder. I love how you are not in a rush of doing things but being very patient and feeling your opponent out and waiting for the opportunity to turn the tables on them. I love rolling like this because my athleticism is not so great and if my partner or opponent has better athleticism than me then I play the defense game, but I’m never in a rush to try and submit them but rather looking for the opportunity for them to eventually slip up. I’m not aiming to be the best but rather to stay in this martial art the best way possible. Love it bro👍👍.

  • @Owl-of-Minerva
    @Owl-of-Minerva 3 года назад +4

    Brilliant. Beautifulsubmission grappling. Genius. This is not jiu-jitsu, much less defensive. Call it the way of the turtle. This is bad ass. Thanks for sharing.

    • @raoul7923
      @raoul7923 3 года назад

      "the way of the turtle" .... @Priit ...sounds like a title of a book you should write

  • @thesonnybrownbreakdown
    @thesonnybrownbreakdown 3 года назад +13

    Really interesting stuff!

    • @marlonscloud
      @marlonscloud 3 года назад +1

      Your videos are really well done, be great if you could cover this whole style / scene at some point Sonny!

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      🤜🤛

  • @gryffgraff4802
    @gryffgraff4802 Год назад

    idk how to fix this, but the last match, the most important one, is impossible to watch due to your channel recommending next vids.

  • @darraghkelly1744
    @darraghkelly1744 3 года назад +2

    This gave me a good chuckle. Congratulations on your wins

  • @faizshariff9968
    @faizshariff9968 Год назад

    Why aren't they using the bulldog choke

  • @simonyadig
    @simonyadig 6 месяцев назад

    What belt is this? So far these aren't great ways to attack the turtle that I'm seeing. Very cool idea, I'd love to try to go against someone with this style and see if I could crack through their shell.

    • @raoul7923
      @raoul7923 Месяц назад

      Open weight was all belt levels. Last (2 matches) the rest was expert level. 1 purple belt, 2 brown belts and a black belt

  • @hardcaliber19
    @hardcaliber19 2 года назад +6

    I think the shear volume of angry, negative commentary on what is so obviously a live test of these principles should tell you that you are truly innovating Priit.
    When people start to realize how these defensive postures can be incorporated into a highly aggressive offensive game, this stuff is going to be taught everywhere.
    Everyone talked the same trash about the DDS and their willingness to give up position in search of leg entanglements. No one is talking trash now.
    This is proof of concept; not a strategy unto itself (although it certainly worked lol). I find it hilarious that so many RUclips grappling "experts" can't see this. Creating a systemic approach to defense is brilliant. When you have no fear of being caught in a "bad" position, you are free to take chances in search of submission, thereby allowing for ultra aggressive offense. Just my take, but that's where I envision this leading. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about your vision Priit, hahaha.

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  2 года назад +1

      I do not disagree with you and it is interesting what kind of reaction this video creates in a lot of people ...thank you for the good words 🤜🤛

  • @balvsmalvs5425
    @balvsmalvs5425 3 года назад +9

    Outstanding. Would be nice to see other attacks from those defensive positions. But still, amazing.

    • @pcprinciple3774
      @pcprinciple3774 3 года назад

      Kimura is probably the next best bet

    • @balvsmalvs5425
      @balvsmalvs5425 3 года назад +1

      @@pcprinciple3774 There's a pretty neat kimura from turtle, that can be easily unexpected.

    • @ongobongo8333
      @ongobongo8333 3 года назад

      it's just stalling. nothing new or impressive.

    • @balvsmalvs5425
      @balvsmalvs5425 3 года назад +6

      @@ongobongo8333 I'm also a great hero on my couch.
      It's not 'just stalling' when the opponent simply cannot bypass your defense.
      Sure as hell doesn't feel like stalling when I do it to brown and even some black belts.

    • @kogrady2409
      @kogrady2409 3 года назад +3

      @@ongobongo8333 please explain how having a solid defense is stalling. We are told over and over to never expose our backs yet somehow everyone still gets their back taken. It sure seems like a good idea to know how to deal with it than to keep spouting the same nonsense platitudes. Are you so good that you never have your back taken? What defensive strategy do you employ if and when it does happen?

  • @john_admin4965
    @john_admin4965 Месяц назад +1

    You have broken bjj. 😊honestly this can end all these complex super secret moves.

  • @alexwoxst
    @alexwoxst 2 года назад

    Is that a red belt at 07:25?

  • @daylightharnage242
    @daylightharnage242 2 года назад +2

    Never apply this to anything but BJJ competition, you'll get your skull smashed in.

  • @mtgsalt1151
    @mtgsalt1151 Год назад

    so why didn't the first guy guillotine him in the turtle position?

    • @DECEPTIONINDICATED
      @DECEPTIONINDICATED Год назад

      Hand fighting is the key to prevent guillotines, harnesses, etc. All schools teach the exposed version of turtle position where there are openings for attack. This style gives you a better chance to defend the things taught in today's schools when it comes to turtle position. I have been using his system for 2 years and not one person that I have rolled with from white to black, has said anything negative about this system that I play. When it comes down to it, its to each his own.

  • @ericsahs
    @ericsahs 3 года назад +6

    Eduardo Telles pioneered some of this type of turtle work. I think it takes a lot of training to be confident enough in your turtle guard to pull it off in competition like this.

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +6

      But the tradeoff is worth it I would say :)

    • @808BJJ_Black_Belt
      @808BJJ_Black_Belt 3 года назад +1

      I agree this actually works in training but I don’t think I would try it in competition just yet

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +2

      @@808BJJ_Black_Belt Well you will get there if you train. That was the first time Raoul also tried it in competition

  • @TheSchyllerwade
    @TheSchyllerwade 3 года назад

    uhhh I would like to know who the RED BELT is around the 8:00 mark in the background...

    • @1083david
      @1083david 3 года назад

      Thats what I'm sayin
      ..Maybe a judo red belt? Doesn't look like any bjj red belt

    • @TheSchyllerwade
      @TheSchyllerwade 3 года назад

      @@1083david ohhhh, yeah maybe that's it

  • @toughfff712
    @toughfff712 3 года назад +1

    Does it work in the street or against multiple attackers?

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +1

      Most likely not?

    • @toughfff712
      @toughfff712 3 года назад +3

      @@DefensiveBJJ it's a joke, but thanks for the reply.

  • @l.d.tjonathan5101
    @l.d.tjonathan5101 3 года назад +10

    a guy at my gym plays this turtle style but goes for wrist locks instead of heelhooks. Sneaky as hell but also annoying haha

  • @melvinfigueroa3414
    @melvinfigueroa3414 Год назад

    Have you ever noticed that when someone is about to get a heel hook or some sort of leg entanglement, the opponent just stares at the set up and waits for the guy to finish the set up. As soon as anyone touches my legs, I’m like mayday mayday, code red, abort abort.

  • @fubar5554
    @fubar5554 2 года назад +1

    Just popped a rib during bjj yesterday, so am laying up in bed watching youtube bjj vids. Came across your video on jordan teaches bjj. Very interesting. I like seeing new things and think its important. Obviously it worked for this guy in sport bjj, and he got the subs, but I do have to admit, it is a little boring to watch, but thats kind of besides the point. A lot of people talked and still talk trash about Eddie bravo and his stuff, and a lot of it is weird. Im not a 10th planet guy or too familiar with their system, but it definitely changed the game a little bit. I learned some basic rubber guard stuff and Im able to land it on people that dont understand ehat Im trying/ going to do all the time. I wouldnt know what to do if I was the aggressor in a competition and came across this too.
    Obviously I am injured and have too much time on my hands, but basically what I’m trying to say is I can see it having a place. I dont think I would use it all the time, but I do like the hawkins and running man positions and definitely think those would be a great grappling defense if you are not getting punched in the face. Im going to try and slip them in during practice and see what the reaction of my coaches will be 😂. Thanks for at least experimenting, and your guy had some good subs!

  • @KingLouieJones
    @KingLouieJones 2 года назад

    So in jiu-jitsu, if you turtle and then concede side control, no guard pass points are awarded?

  • @aplus1080
    @aplus1080 3 года назад +3

    Love the next to last guy scared to disengage. Very tough 💪

  • @janmeppe
    @janmeppe 3 года назад +1

    why can't they go straight for the RNC when you're in turtle keeping your arms tight to your chest? isn't your neck exposed?

    • @zaidflowers1828
      @zaidflowers1828 3 года назад

      That's what they want you to do it exposes your arms .

    • @Madfrostman1
      @Madfrostman1 3 года назад

      When the chin is properly places the rnc isnt there right away so it allows for more time to counter/escape/transition.

  • @zaidflowers1828
    @zaidflowers1828 3 года назад +1

    What belt are u

  • @bravesirgallahad
    @bravesirgallahad 3 года назад +22

    Can't wait for everyone to adopt this style, we can see some narley turtle stalemates 😜

    • @tricyclemishap
      @tricyclemishap 3 года назад +4

      Yah maybe see a match with double turtle guard pull 😄

    • @Monkstameth
      @Monkstameth 3 года назад +3

      Weird rules weird matches. Awesome display of defensive positions. Killer leg-hunting.

    • @Theo-dj7vs
      @Theo-dj7vs 3 года назад

      @@Monkstameth it's weak as fuk...no integrity...no use case but this (amateur) rule set. Waste of time.

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +3

      @@Theo-dj7vs You do understand what was the reason right?

    • @eo333
      @eo333 3 года назад

      @@Theo-dj7vs and winning with it. haha

  • @wylian84
    @wylian84 3 года назад +3

    Interesting
    I use turtle a lot when I'm tired, and i wait for the opportunity to pounce as they get frustrated.

  • @UrRedeemer
    @UrRedeemer 3 года назад +4

    Cool stuff! Thanks fkr sharing. But Im curious what Priit thinks of the seal feet ;P

    • @kogrady2409
      @kogrady2409 3 года назад +3

      Things have changed and seal feet from turtle is recommended now to prevent ankle grabbing and pressure. You can play either way depending on your style.

    • @UrRedeemer
      @UrRedeemer 3 года назад

      @@kogrady2409 Good to know, thanks!

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +2

      @@UrRedeemer These days we play with both options ...evolution of things!

    • @petriano1
      @petriano1 3 года назад

      No seal feet is recommended to attack. Since he's not attacking... And also got knocked on his kneesitting base because of seal feet around 7:33

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      @@petriano1 Things happen is competition and seal feets are fine for a good base. We have also solutions when we fall and so on

  • @williamharding1319
    @williamharding1319 3 года назад +2

    I love that semi imanari on the German guy. Beautiful jiujitsu!

  • @Oldhandlewasabitcringe
    @Oldhandlewasabitcringe 3 года назад +2

    Absolutely hilarious and really educational

  • @yamazaki997
    @yamazaki997 3 года назад +3

    Defensive masterclass:) loving this style :)

  • @bane3991
    @bane3991 3 года назад +4

    This is great haha entertaining and you really make people play to your strengths. I don't consider it stalling because they are at the advantage point here. Makes me want to work on my turtle!

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      I would not call the beginnings of the matches exactly that 😎

  • @andycampbell85
    @andycampbell85 Год назад

    That guy's defence was TIGHT! 👀 🔥

  • @flippaRuATX
    @flippaRuATX 3 года назад

    Do you have to keep engaging them when they go into turtle like that. If I were to just stand up and not engage wouldn't the ref make him get up too

  • @rollinOnCode
    @rollinOnCode 3 года назад

    Can we get raul to do a couple segments on transitions to leglocks and other attacks from turtle and defensive posture?

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +1

      He is working on that!

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +1

      Question …do you play “my” turtle and also do you play leglocks yourself?

    • @raoul7923
      @raoul7923 3 года назад +1

      Instructional is coming out soon......

    • @raoulaudhoe6363
      @raoulaudhoe6363 3 года назад +1

      instructional is out, go check it out

  • @b4dmaash
    @b4dmaash 5 месяцев назад

    Yeah this guys defense is at the elite level and should be entered into the UFC, he will do well there.

  • @zencat13
    @zencat13 2 года назад

    This a work of genius! Like he's seen through the matrix - Telles would be proud

  • @rogerpang
    @rogerpang 3 года назад +7

    Is that cross legged panda a new position? Love it 😍

    • @raoul7923
      @raoul7923 3 года назад +16

      If you want to annoy priit .... start calling it buddha panda

    • @kogrady2409
      @kogrady2409 3 года назад +1

      Only for the extra flexible disciples.

  • @Cornbreadddd
    @Cornbreadddd 3 года назад +15

    This shouldn’t even be associated with the word jiu-jitsu

    • @juanjesusdavidedeocampo7243
      @juanjesusdavidedeocampo7243 3 года назад +3

      I thought so too at first before i watched all of priit mikhelson’s seminars on bjj globetrotters youtube channel. Hear him out maybe. At the very least he offers super interesting perspectives whether you agree with him or not

    • @Madfrostman1
      @Madfrostman1 3 года назад

      why?

    • @Cornbreadddd
      @Cornbreadddd 3 года назад +1

      @@Madfrostman1 Because BJJ is about protecting yourself during combat and controlling an opponent. Ironically, during combat, this guy would get his brain smashed all over the ground with this nonsense.

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      @@Cornbreadddd Do you understand why we acted this way in competition?

  • @davideverett1587
    @davideverett1587 3 года назад +1

    Is there a particular entry he’s using for the leg locks here? It definitely doesn’t look like a standard rolling kneebar. He clearly inverts but I was wondering if he’s switching to a kind of tornado guard? Is there anything on the net covering these sorts of entries from turtle?
    Fantastic video, loving all this new content on RUclips!

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      He is coming out with the DVD soon about how he attacks from there 🤓
      PS. Thank you!

    • @raoulaudhoe6363
      @raoulaudhoe6363 3 года назад

      DVD is out... go check it out

  • @bjjmo5457
    @bjjmo5457 3 года назад +10

    He obviously had a goal of proving a strong defense could keep you safe until he saw the right moment. His leg lock game showed that he has other skills, but that he was trying to prove something.
    Yes exposing yourself like this when strikes are allowed would be foolish, but this isn't a match with strikes. This is a BJJ sport competition, not the street. If you think he'd use the exact same tactic in a mma match, street, etc your fooling yourself. If ever in a street fight, where someone takes your back and tries to choke you out... It sure is nice to have these defensive tactics as a reflex.
    For those of you saying something along the lines of "this or that painful move would open his turtle", I'd argue those tactics put you in a position where he could exploit an opening. Obviously nothing is perfect. Learning defense can't hurt your game.
    I think defense is what has made Floyd Mayweather the greatest boxer of all time.
    Defense has never really been emphasized in BJJ, so people are frustrated when confronted with it.
    Like all things in BJJ, somethings connect with you, others don't. Find what makes you happy, and use those tactics.
    I thought this was brilliant!

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      🤜🤛 ...thank you for that!

    • @michaelbarnhill2685
      @michaelbarnhill2685 3 года назад

      When panic sets in, you do what you trained.
      Turtle position is ignorant in a self defense art, which juijitsu is.....well....was.

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      @@michaelbarnhill2685 Well it was someones definition towards bjj ...and I do disagree with that!

    • @michaelbarnhill2685
      @michaelbarnhill2685 3 года назад

      @@DefensiveBJJ it was the definition by the people who invented it..both Brazilian juijitsu and Juijitsu.
      People disagree with facts all the time.
      Their cognitive dissonance helps them to find peace with their own lies.

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      @@michaelbarnhill2685 I think we are past that time when jiujitsu was considered for selfdefence ...I think jiujitsu can be so much more and one of the applications can be self defence
      Well I do have another idea of facts and everything should have room to be questioned ...even gravity is a theory because of that
      Also this was the first layer that we were willing to test in competition and yeesh it looked passive but it fulfilled our objective ...if you want to see how turtle effectively work in a fight then watch Robert Whitaker turtle breakdown or also watch Robby Lawler vs Colby Covington first round to see how defence could work

  • @nonamenolastname9567
    @nonamenolastname9567 2 года назад

    love this , amazing work , you are a genius!

  • @MichaelFarbridge
    @MichaelFarbridge 14 дней назад

    Turtle is like cheesing in videogames. Fun as hell when you pull it off, but annoying for anyone playing against you.

  • @KingLouieJones
    @KingLouieJones 2 года назад

    What is "advanced division"? Is that the same as black belt division?

  • @jordanfrankfurt6978
    @jordanfrankfurt6978 3 года назад +1

    It helped that he's just better by a lot and could have won easily at any point. His coach basically just said "okay, now win" near the end of each match. If he hadn't played this way he still would have easily won 7 matches with 7 submissions... Just... ya know, faster.

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +1

      Do you understand what we went to do in that competition? Turning your back to unknown opponents in a tournament is no easy task. It is easy however say afterwards that he was better or whatever ...we went there to test our defensive ideas

  • @brownhousefarm
    @brownhousefarm 3 года назад

    How does the technique do with gi?

  • @rickyalvarez4682
    @rickyalvarez4682 3 года назад +1

    I am impressed 🥋🐺👍🏼

  • @flyingwithanything27
    @flyingwithanything27 3 года назад

    Are your opponents white belts?

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      it's advanced division, some of them are black belts

  • @erictheawesomest
    @erictheawesomest 18 дней назад

    I dono what it's called elsewhere but couldn't you just do a super choke on him? Coz he doesn't seem to be protecting his neck

  • @김천재-c9j
    @김천재-c9j 3 года назад

    black or brown belt ? awesome!!!

    • @raoulaudhoe6363
      @raoulaudhoe6363 2 года назад

      brown belt now... was still purple a day before that tournament

  • @NickVsqzjr
    @NickVsqzjr 3 года назад

    How is this not stalling?

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +1

      You have to ask the ref ...we also expected to get stalling calls while testing it all ...it was the price to pay to find out

    • @NickVsqzjr
      @NickVsqzjr 3 года назад

      @@DefensiveBJJ Good stuff

  • @SoulJiuJitsu
    @SoulJiuJitsu 3 года назад +1

    Great technique for competition. Terrible technique for self defense. Also, why does nobody grab his neck or chin? Is this really advanced level grappling in Europe?

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      Well it was not self defence situation so it is a bit unnecessary to point that out because nobody is also claiming that. If youd would know how this turtle is built then you would understand why the openings are not there! 🙂

  • @lowbias
    @lowbias 3 года назад

    So, what's the system you're testing? I don't get it. He was much better than everyone else. So?

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      We were testing our defensive structures

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      First defensive layers have that effect on people that they look less skilled than they are

    • @lowbias
      @lowbias 3 года назад

      @@DefensiveBJJ No, I don’t buy it. This was just a more skilled fighter stalling and taking advantage of a skill gap. But, I will check out your channel. Perhaps I’m wrong!

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      @@lowbias Haha …the title even implies that 😂 …we purposly went there to turn our back to unknown opponent to see what happens and to test our defensive ideas under pressure

    • @lowbias
      @lowbias 3 года назад

      @@DefensiveBJJ My first comment stands.

  • @ruliliru2378
    @ruliliru2378 8 месяцев назад

    If system works is one thing, but if you teach people that default reaction in fight is to go to turtle then the martial arts main purpose of self defense is lost. This martial art is turning into a fun game for many people. Slap jitsu looks like a must for competitions now as a correction tool

  • @ikrampicaso920
    @ikrampicaso920 3 года назад +1

    God damn, that’s amazing lol. Btw how do this defensive principle in MMA? I guess a lot of defense by just getting up??

    • @FH-pn1tm
      @FH-pn1tm 3 года назад +7

      One of the rare moments where I actually agree when people say "this would never work in mma"

    • @DMurdock
      @DMurdock 3 года назад

      If you take away the sport element, it basically becomes wrestling.

    • @ikrampicaso920
      @ikrampicaso920 3 года назад +1

      @@FH-pn1tm right, i’m quite curious how this works in MMA. The foundation of this system is that you don’t give easy underhooks, don’t put too much stress on getting choked and the positions that priit introduces is somewhat eternal. But how does this work if someone is trying to literally smash your face to pieces like khabib

    • @cherryblossom7708
      @cherryblossom7708 3 года назад +2

      @@ikrampicaso920 short answer: it doesn't work. adding in strikes changes the game completely. there's no point trying to consider how this would work in mma

    • @ikrampicaso920
      @ikrampicaso920 3 года назад +2

      @@cherryblossom7708 haha yeah you’re probably right, if you’re on your back in MMA, i think you already fucked up long ago lol

  • @Farrell119
    @Farrell119 3 года назад

    Did they just Floyd Mayweather BJJ?

  • @Muaithaisy
    @Muaithaisy 3 года назад +2

    You should totally Dojo storm a few gyms with this system...

    • @raoul7923
      @raoul7923 3 года назад

      hahaha .... dojo storm .... is that still a thing?

  • @HeavyHunter16
    @HeavyHunter16 3 года назад +10

    This is just showing off now xD

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +1

      Not really ...this is us doing what people have said we should be doing - testing our ideas under pressure 😎

    • @HeavyHunter16
      @HeavyHunter16 3 года назад +1

      @@DefensiveBJJ and you guys proved again. It works amazingly!!

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +1

      @@HeavyHunter16 🤜🤛

  • @LuisCruz-wu5gv
    @LuisCruz-wu5gv 2 года назад +1

    This is priceless! 💪🏽

  • @snipsel
    @snipsel 3 года назад +2

    Great display of turtle. I'm using this in sparring since the first Globetrotters video and it works very well. I don't get why people hate on his style. What's the difference between this and pulling closed guard, fighting grips and work towards submission!? Not practical for a street fight? Of course! It's a jiujitsu match. But don't be naive - your top pressure side control could be useless too if the other guy stabs your liver from bottom.

  • @ivanivan5511
    @ivanivan5511 3 года назад +2

    Outstanding.

  • @deathofaclown
    @deathofaclown 3 года назад +11

    this is blowing my mind
    most movement is just giving your opponent openings and is therefore unnecessary
    close yourself up, wait, and strike exclusively for heal hooks
    breaking the bjj meta 😂

  • @bytor754
    @bytor754 3 года назад

    Damn it~ I fckg love his move..but
    I don't get his name-do..

  • @philoalethia
    @philoalethia 2 месяца назад

    He's got great inversion from those positions. I want to learn to do that! :)

    • @raoul7923
      @raoul7923 Месяц назад

      Google Raoul Audhoe Attacking from turtle to find my instructional

  • @thos1618
    @thos1618 Год назад

    Nice job against Raphael Lovato Jr in Match 3.

  • @carlsonjack
    @carlsonjack 2 года назад +1

    Definitely helps that your leglock game is sick nasty

    • @raoulaudhoe6363
      @raoulaudhoe6363 2 года назад

      I can get by. .....few of my students are better leglockers then I am

  •  3 года назад

    funny how these guys come to fight in their halloween costumes

  • @Grandroborox
    @Grandroborox 3 года назад +1

    Great work. You should be a Priht brown belt now innit.

  • @SraMarte
    @SraMarte 6 месяцев назад

    Just found myself on the background of this video 😂

  • @amorestperpe
    @amorestperpe 3 года назад

    Everybody is probably like, " Yeah, fu*k that guy".

  • @ItsDave76
    @ItsDave76 3 года назад +4

    Effective, but the weirdest match ever. 😂

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +1

      That is the price of testing ideas under pressure!

  • @koalaofdeath2045
    @koalaofdeath2045 3 года назад +1

    Haha that was pretty fun. I'd love to see this kind of style at the big IBJJF tournaments to see if that still holds up against that level. No offense to Grappling Industries but if there's somebody who can do this to the black belt adults at Worlds that'd be so entertaining!

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      It has been done in the black belt level in quintet ruclips.net/video/gvPVBHsAHB4/видео.html

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад +2

      We have to start somewhere 😉 ...if the testing leads us finally there then we will see!

  • @pedrosabbak3965
    @pedrosabbak3965 3 года назад +3

    Crazy Imanari at 8:40

  • @joehill4945
    @joehill4945 3 года назад +1

    Never give up those underhooks eh?

    • @DefensiveBJJ
      @DefensiveBJJ  3 года назад

      Well that is the idea of the first layer yeesh!

  • @FernandoHernandez2
    @FernandoHernandez2 3 года назад +1

    Turtle pride, Amazing stuff 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @matude_1
    @matude_1 3 года назад +2

    Legend!

  • @chriscrew4478
    @chriscrew4478 Год назад

    I wish I knew if they recognized what he was doing... I'm only a year in but have watched a lot of RUclips so I know running man and panda.... but almost all people ive talked to don't know about it

    • @raoul7923
      @raoul7923 Месяц назад

      ThankS… takes a while to spread

  • @watchandlearnbjj
    @watchandlearnbjj 3 года назад

    Interesting that none of his opponents initiated any of their own foot attacks

  • @pavelsaenz59
    @pavelsaenz59 3 года назад +2

    beautiful!