I'm excited for them! I play 2ply heads most of the time but liked the UV1 coating alot ... what i really need is a snare head with the UV coating and a reversed dot in the middle, hope the future will bring stuff like that :)
I use the UV series heads (UV1’s on my toms and UV EQ4/EMAD’s on my kick). I love those heads, durability and tone are unparalleled from anything I have ever used. I am primarily a jazz player and prefer a more higher bop tuning but do play in other situations where a lower tuning is needed (hence the EMAD on the kick). I think a two ply head version is interesting and will provide me with options should I need heads this heavy. What is more important for me is the expanded use of the UV process. Along with the UV Hydrolics, Evens is clearly looking at where they might use this revolutionary technology. I would like to see Evans experiment with a UV1 Dry head similar to the Genera Dry model (the head I prefer to use on my snares). Great product demo, the Pearls sound great as always. Keep it up and coming!
OMG! I play Evans UV1 and I don't want to change them for anything at all... Maybe the new UV2... I can't wait!! Thanks for this video, I love the channel
Love the UV coating and surprised with the sound. Would love to try it in a 2ply. Very curious what the final product will be. Thanks for a great extensive review!
It's not really the sound I'm looking for, but I think the durability could be a lifesaver for touring drummers. I think sound engineers will also love these heads, and they are a huge (forgotten) factor in how you sound.
I'm using the UV1 on the snare and I have noticed that longer break-in period that you mentioned. In the first hours (about 10 to 15 hours) the head was sounding a little bit weird, with less warm tone and a lot of harmonics. But now it sounds great, with a good balance between body, tone and harmonics!! The UV coating lasted longer than a Remo coating, but less than an Aquarian coating - in my perception. Like always, great video with great content!! Thank you. Greetings from Brazil! o/ 🇧🇷
When the UV1s first came out I tried a set of them because of the putative durability of the coating. I play with brushes a lot, and was annoyed at how quickly the coating became smooth on my Ambassadors or G1s. The UV coating is very durable, but after using them for a while I came to dislike the sound of those heads compared to Ambassadors or G1s. It will be interesting to see what the UV2 will be like as it seems to be a different product altogether. Currently to fatten up my sound a little I'm using a coated G12 on the tom, and a G2 on the floor tom (what you said about the G2 being surprisingly sensitive for a 2-ply head tracks with my experience as well. I generally prefer single plies but find that a two ply increase the size of the sweet spot on the floor tom, and controls for the over-ring. On snare drums I use almost exclusively the Aquarian Modern Vintage heads. These are a bit darker than the G1s, but whatever the coating is that Aquarian uses, it wear like iron. Nice introduction to the new line, I enjoy everything you guys do.
Great video! I understand that you guys have connections to Evans and clearly prefer their heads, but are you thinking about trying other manufacturers heads? Say for a head comparison video, would be cool to see the nuances and other differences between otherwise similar product lines.
Thanks! We've said this before- we're happy to work with other drumhead manufacturers. We worked with Steele of Kentville Drums on demonstrating his kangaroo hide drumheads when he got in touch with us. Haven't heard anything from any other drumhead manufacturer though the door remains open. Evans has supplied some heads for videos and we're grateful for that support. We already invest considerable amounts of time in creating these videos and ensuring that the statements made are backed up by real-world experience, both in performance (Cody's focus) and production (Ben's focus from his time working for Evans Drumheads). It's this firsthand knowledge that allows us to make the statements that we do rather than regurgitating something seen in another video or read elsewhere online. We're definitely open to fruitful comparison opportunities and experimenting with a variety of brands. -Ben
For a heavy hitter durability is very important. Regarding durability according to your test results the top head of UV2 is great and even the best you have ever tested: no marks at all on the head: that is great!.. So if you want a UV2-G2 2 ply combination: for durability ... G2 on the bottom of the 2 ply.
I am a soft hitter so ..this heavy one is not a head for me! May be a great type of head for Marching Snares: with the enormous marching sticks and heavy beating this may give a nice sound. My experience with Pinstripes coated on a snare:for me it feels like there is no move in the head (like concrete): a to hard suface to do things with dynamics, rudiments and feel. A tricky head to get injuries. Perhaps this UV2 does it better that the coated pinstripes but ...it should be weather resistant with heavy beating in rain, hot weather and freezing colds. Remo's are perfect all weather heads for outside playing in all heavy conditions.
I'm looking forward to these heads coming out. I've been using G2s for a really long time on most of my kits, and I've always run into some durability issues on the floor toms with the loose tuning I use on them coupled with my barrel tipped sticks. Hopefully when the final product comes out the issues to mentioned will be addressed, and I'll have a new drumhead to use on my kits :)
I'm excited to see how they'll incorporate this new tech on the kick head. Will they make an EMAD from it? Hmm...Good things on the way no matter what! Great video as always, guys!
I definitely like the tones, but I managed to snap the top ply on my head in about 3-4 hours of play time. Sending mine back now for them to study why and how it happened. I’m definitely in the same boat as that other guy, a center dot, perhaps under the top ply, might do some good. Or maybe thickening up one of the plies a little bit?
Dudes great stuff Love the honesty and intellectual approach to drums ! However , I’m still waiting for the cymbal series and please increase your video rates to twice a week maybe ! Love the stuff
I've been a big fan of Evans heads and have used coated G2s over Reso 7s for a quick decay, but I want to try other heads like the clear G2s, clear or coated G12s and clear EC2s at some point. I've liked the G1 and HD Dry snare heads and I practically swear by the 300 snare side, and I may try a UV1 next for a snare head because I play a lot of jazz and I've heard they're great for brushes. But my concern with the UV heads is the fact that the coating doesn't go all the way to the edge, and as a result, the coated portion could be off center and bring a challenge for tuning. I know it's kind of a look thing, and I definitely agree that it does make it look cool, but I would rather the coating go all the way around the head as other Evans heads do so that this issue is limited. I'm really obsessed with symmetry (I go crazy with making sure my sticks are straight before I buy them) and I personally believe that a slight off-center placement could present an issue for me. I've played other people's kits and concert toms at my college with the Remo Controlled Sound black dot heads and have occasionally found heads to not have the dot centered which makes it difficult to tune. Then again, Evans does have the Level 360 tech to assist with tuning (which is why I like it so much) but until Evans decides to put the coating all the way around the edge, I think that for my playing I will stick with traditional coated Evans heads. Do you guys at Sounds Like A Drum know if the coating not going all the way around does anything to affect the sound of the head/present any tuning challenges aside from possible off center placement? Keep up the awesome work, love the videos!!
+Sounds Like A Drum Great demo & review, Ben. And that's a beautiful Pearl kit! However, I think it would have been way better to demo these Double-Ply UV2 heads on a kit using standard Triple-Flange Steel Hoops instead of the Pearl's Diecast Hoops. Regarding the original UV1 heads, I loved the durability of the Coating and the heads overall, and the UV1 coating was excellent for using brushes on the snare as well. I tried a full set of the UV1's on my practice kit, and while they held up remarkably well for the 6+ months that I used them, I found that I missed and preferred the tonal qualities of the Remo Coated Ambassadors, and that includes for recording as well. When I switched back to the Remo AC's, I also didn't realize how different the stick rebound & feel was with the UV1's. It wasn't bad per se, just different, and I preferred the stick/rebound feel of the Remo's right away. Of course, all of this is subjective, and everyone will have different preferences. I mostly play jazz and play with a lot of dynamics from very soft pianissimo to all-out wailing on swing solos, and the Remo AC's tended to sing & have a more consistent tone at all dynamics. Just my .02
Thanks so much! One of the things I love about this kit and setup with these hoops is that I've tested (to great length) every single model of Evans tom heads on them and most Remo and Aquarian heads as well. It's the baseline that I tend to compare most drumheads with. Since we've used it for demonstrating a variety of heads/tuning methods on this channel, it seemed about right to stay consistent (especially since this is the kit I was personally using to test these particular heads for D'Addario). As such, I've got to disagree with the notion that a test with triple-flange hoops would have been "way better. It would have been different, and that's fine. That may be something to try when the final production models come out. Thanks for watching! -Ben
+Sounds Like A Drum Thanks for the reply. I get where you are coming from with wanting to keep things consistent from test to test. I would do the same if it was *just for my personal comparison* using my daily driver kit. HOWEVER, you are trying to reach a broad audience of drummers, and the reality is that the majority of the drumming community will be using a kit with standard Triple-Flange Hoops. I'd guesstimate that to be roughly 80% of the drum kits sold and used in the past, present, and foreseeable future. For example, out of my current 8 drum kits, only one (a vintage Gretsch) has Die-Cast Hoops, and one other kit has maple/wood hoops. So again, the majority are triple-flange (albeit of varying thickness and weight). I'm just sayin' that for *most* of your viewers, it probably would have been a better reference point to use standard hoops since the die-cast hoops will change the sound properties considerably, and again, probably no more than 20% of your viewers will be using die-cast. It's still a fantastic and valid demo, and you did an excellent job in explaining the sonic & physical properties of these heads in comparison to others. But IMO, I see this video as being more advantageous to Evans' product development team since these heads are not the final versions. I think that it's great to give the opportunity for your viewers to be able to chime in and give their thoughts to help steer Evans in the right direction with the development of these new heads. But it's also somewhat of a waste because 99.5% of your viewers will NEVER be able to buy or use these *exact* (prototype) heads. In addition, I would bet that Evans will want to target the broadest market of drummers with these, and again, I feel that the majority would be on triple-flange hoop kits of course. Perhaps most of the other Beta Testers ARE using triple-flange hoops, so I think this is still a very useful demonstration and analysis. I'd really look forward to watching and hearing your Demo of these when the final production models are released. But of course I'd prefer it to be on a good, currently available, well-known/popular kit that more of your audience would be familiar with and relate to, and one that is outfitted with standard triple-flange hoops. :-P I in no way mean to be a jerk with my comments. I just want your already excellent RUclips drum channel to become even better and for you guys to reach an even wider audience. ;)
I experienced the same issue with the center dot of the UV, in particular the 16” and bass drum heads. It caused issues with seating and tuning and eventually went back to Remo.
Now that they're publicly available, how do they compare to an EC2S an a tom in your opinion? Are there any changes from the prototypes you tested in this video?
+Sounds Like A Drum +Peter Landi If you guys end of doing this test, please include the Fat-Cat dual/adjustable tension snare wires. They allow you to have two different snare wire tensions on the head using your single strainer tension adjustment... Somewhat like a philharmonic snare that has a multi-strainer throw-off. It allows for better sensitivity across the head and for ghost notes, etc.
Interesting things happening at Evans, Calftone, UV1, now this... Well, it might have its place but for me it sounds too dead, too much like a cardboard-box. G2 and Emperor coateds still have a nice tone to them, but those?... not so much imho. But then, I'm not a hard hitter, playing in a metalband, so, those are probably not made for me anyway.
Hey there! We'll see what we can do, some requests have come for small-group bop tuning as well, so we may have to start tackling full-kit sounds :) - Cody
*Thanks for the preview.* I already use Evans®/D'Addario® heads on my TAMA®/Hoshino® New Imperialstars, with EC2 coated tom batters and a B14HD/S14R30 on snare; for my 14"x6.5" steel-shell rebuild project, I'm thinking wood hoops for a B14UV2 top and S14R50 or TT14RGL bottom with six turns of monofilament nylon - I'm used to a less trebly tone.
I play the UV1s,which I like, and they are even more warm with out overing. The UV2's are a little too dead for me. Not so responsive. They would probably work well for hard hitters and heavy rock ,or metal.
Thanks! The "best" of anything in the world of drum sounds is completely subjective and dependent on the circumstances. You really can't go wrong with a clear single-ply 10mil drumhead for a reso but there are lots of other options out there that may be better fitting for you depending on a number of factors. This is the kind of conversation we'll be diving deep into on the discussion board for Patreon supporters.
Also one thing I wanted to say, that you guys could possibly pass on. One issue I have with the UV series is that the heads almost sound a bit boxy. I love the consistency of the coating, but the tone proves to he less organic than Remo heads. It's a shame, considering the quality of the coating. And I would love to see Evans release the 12 mil Calftones that were being tested. I'd love to see that, and I was disappointed to see only the 7 mil released for toms and snares. Are the working on anything else in that line, such as experimenting with a different process?
+A E S T H E T I C _T E C H N O P A T H +Sounds Like A Drum I completely agree regarding the UV1 heads. Love the durability of the Coating and heads overall, and the UV1 was excellent for using brushes on the snare as well. I tried a full set of the UV1's on my practice kit, and while they held up remarkably well for the 6+ months that I used them, I found that I missed and preferred the tonal qualities of the Remo Coated Ambassadors, and that includes for recording as well. When I switched back to the Remo AC's, I also didn't realize how different the stick rebound & feel was with the UV1's. It wasn't bad per se, just different, and I preferred the stick/rebound feel of the Remo's right away. Of course, all of this is subjective, and everyone will have different preferences. I mostly play jazz and play with a lot of dynamics from very soft pianissimo to all out wailing, and the Remo AC's tended to sing & have a more consistent tone at all dynamics. Just my .02
I love sounds like a drum, but if I’m being picky then I would say I don’t like it how you guys predominantly promote certain companies. I’d love to see an equal playing field where all companies are promoted solely based on their strengths. Other than that I love this channel.
Hit up DW and let them know that you'd like to see the drum featured here! You can contact them via their customer service team or their social channels. Cheers! -Ben
I'll be calling Evans . I am a beta tester as well and have tested this head . The prototypes are supposed to be confidential . You clearly violated that. I'll be sure to send them a link to this video.
Donnie Fisk Ben has connections with D’addario. Ben used to work for them. I highly doubt he would disregard any legalities concerning the divulging of information on these heads.
For what it's worth, I went back and read the letter that came with the heads I received and there wasn't a single mention of confidentiality whatsoever. That being said, I respect their efforts and would understand if they wished to keep this quiet for the time being, which is why I confirmed with their product manager that it was okay to feature these in an episode. You may have received a different letter though I suspect that the one packaged with the heads was given to everyone involved. I'd recommend checking again to see if yours included any messaging about confidentiality. -Ben
Donnie Fisk, you are a crybaby tattletale. I hope Evans kicks you off the roster list. I don’t want to purchase products from a company that endorses a 2 yr. old like you. I’m pretty sure you aren’t even cool enough to be a drummer.
he HAD connections with them ... little do y'all know that the "letter" that comes with the head says confidential , call me whatever you like , I rest easy at night knowing I'm an honest person . Besides , I play for a well known artist so y'alls amateur remarks just make me laugh .
Hey man, I appreciate that you’re looking out for the company and all but we wouldn’t have made this video if we didn’t receive permission. I talk to the team at Evans on a regular basis and this was totally sanctioned. Thanks for watching... -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum yeah I'm done watching your videos. I don't feel any tester should be held in higher regard than any other of the 1,000 testers . Defeats the purpose of testing if " inside connections " precede anything else.
It is probably safe to assume that his letter was different than yours. Having "had" connections with Evans/D'addario, and especially having worked in their product development and social media, he is likely very aware of any confidentiality agreements. My guess is that, while you are a beta tester, Ben has a "Reviewer" status or something similar. I totally respect you sending this Evans' way, but I suspect they've seen and approved it ;)
Donnie, you’re totally entitled to watch or not watch whatever you choose. Other individuals have produced videos as well and D’Addario has approved them to be shared so this really isn’t special treatment. Regardless, let’s all act like adults here. No need for insulting anyone and it won’t be tolerated any further. Those that create a hostile environment going forward will have comments removed and risk being blocked. Let’s keep this civil and focus on the drum sounds. -Ben
I'm excited for them! I play 2ply heads most of the time but liked the UV1 coating alot ... what i really need is a snare head with the UV coating and a reversed dot in the middle, hope the future will bring stuff like that :)
Try the UV coated hydraulic snare head
Try the heavyweight
I use the UV series heads (UV1’s on my toms and UV EQ4/EMAD’s on my kick). I love those heads, durability and tone are unparalleled from anything I have ever used. I am primarily a jazz player and prefer a more higher bop tuning but do play in other situations where a lower tuning is needed (hence the EMAD on the kick). I think a two ply head version is interesting and will provide me with options should I need heads this heavy. What is more important for me is the expanded use of the UV process. Along with the UV Hydrolics, Evens is clearly looking at where they might use this revolutionary technology. I would like to see Evans experiment with a UV1 Dry head similar to the Genera Dry model (the head I prefer to use on my snares). Great product demo, the Pearls sound great as always. Keep it up and coming!
Man that's a sick drumset. Beautiful finish.. great hardware and sizes. Sounds great
Thanks so much! -Ben
OMG! I play Evans UV1 and I don't want to change them for anything at all... Maybe the new UV2... I can't wait!! Thanks for this video, I love the channel
Thanks for another great video. I wasn't that crazy about the UV1 heads, but I am definitely interested in trying out the UV2s (now).
Really looking forward to these being released! Would love to see a comparison video UV2 vs coated G2.
We'll have to see if Evans is down to make that happen! -Ben
I've been really impressed by the UV1's, really keen to see how these sound on my kit with they're released 😀
Love the UV coating and surprised with the sound. Would love to try it in a 2ply. Very curious what the final product will be. Thanks for a great extensive review!
It's not really the sound I'm looking for, but I think the durability could be a lifesaver for touring drummers. I think sound engineers will also love these heads, and they are a huge (forgotten) factor in how you sound.
I'm using the UV1 on the snare and I have noticed that longer break-in period that you mentioned. In the first hours (about 10 to 15 hours) the head was sounding a little bit weird, with less warm tone and a lot of harmonics. But now it sounds great, with a good balance between body, tone and harmonics!! The UV coating lasted longer than a Remo coating, but less than an Aquarian coating - in my perception.
Like always, great video with great content!! Thank you. Greetings from Brazil! o/ 🇧🇷
Ready to try the UV2. Loving the UV1s.
When the UV1s first came out I tried a set of them because of the putative durability of the coating. I play with brushes a lot, and was annoyed at how quickly the coating became smooth on my Ambassadors or G1s. The UV coating is very durable, but after using them for a while I came to dislike the sound of those heads compared to Ambassadors or G1s. It will be interesting to see what the UV2 will be like as it seems to be a different product altogether. Currently to fatten up my sound a little I'm using a coated G12 on the tom, and a G2 on the floor tom (what you said about the G2 being surprisingly sensitive for a 2-ply head tracks with my experience as well. I generally prefer single plies but find that a two ply increase the size of the sweet spot on the floor tom, and controls for the over-ring. On snare drums I use almost exclusively the Aquarian Modern Vintage heads. These are a bit darker than the G1s, but whatever the coating is that Aquarian uses, it wear like iron. Nice introduction to the new line, I enjoy everything you guys do.
What about the sound didn't you like?
Great video! I understand that you guys have connections to Evans and clearly prefer their heads, but are you thinking about trying other manufacturers heads? Say for a head comparison video, would be cool to see the nuances and other differences between otherwise similar product lines.
Thanks! We've said this before- we're happy to work with other drumhead manufacturers. We worked with Steele of Kentville Drums on demonstrating his kangaroo hide drumheads when he got in touch with us. Haven't heard anything from any other drumhead manufacturer though the door remains open.
Evans has supplied some heads for videos and we're grateful for that support. We already invest considerable amounts of time in creating these videos and ensuring that the statements made are backed up by real-world experience, both in performance (Cody's focus) and production (Ben's focus from his time working for Evans Drumheads). It's this firsthand knowledge that allows us to make the statements that we do rather than regurgitating something seen in another video or read elsewhere online.
We're definitely open to fruitful comparison opportunities and experimenting with a variety of brands. -Ben
Another great vid. Thanks for all of the info!
For a heavy hitter durability is very important. Regarding durability according to your test results the top head of UV2 is great and even the best you have ever tested: no marks at all on the head: that is great!.. So if you want a UV2-G2 2 ply combination: for durability ... G2 on the bottom of the 2 ply.
I am a soft hitter so ..this heavy one is not a head for me! May be a great type of head for Marching Snares: with the enormous marching sticks and heavy beating this may give a nice sound. My experience with Pinstripes coated on a snare:for me it feels like there is no move in the head (like concrete): a to hard suface to do things with dynamics, rudiments and feel. A tricky head to get injuries. Perhaps this UV2 does it better that the coated pinstripes but ...it should be weather resistant with heavy beating in rain, hot weather and freezing colds. Remo's are perfect all weather heads for outside playing in all heavy conditions.
WOWZERS!!!!!
I think these guys and drummers review here in the U.K are the two best drum channels on RUclips. Fantastic videos. Nice work lads. 😎🤘
Really dig that sound for rock!
Amazing sound. Can't wait till they release these to the public.
So excited to hear these are coming out!
i'm so in it w/ the UVs for the cool new logo alone
Very nice i test it now! Looking forward, Evans UV1 its great and i know Evans UV2 is also great 😃
Looking forward to trying the UV2 heads, as always great content, keep it up !
Happy i found your channel. Learn something new everytime I watch a vid. 👍
I'm looking forward to these heads coming out. I've been using G2s for a really long time on most of my kits, and I've always run into some durability issues on the floor toms with the loose tuning I use on them coupled with my barrel tipped sticks. Hopefully when the final product comes out the issues to mentioned will be addressed, and I'll have a new drumhead to use on my kits :)
Fuck yes, finally!!!
Wish I could get my 16 floor Tom to sound like that!
Sounds amazing!! Definetaly gonna buy a pair when they come out!
I'm excited to see how they'll incorporate this new tech on the kick head. Will they make an EMAD from it?
Hmm...Good things on the way no matter what!
Great video as always, guys!
That's definitely going to be interesting to see! I'd be super curious to hear how this film and coating combination works on a kick. Cheers! -Ben
evans ... great heads
I definitely like the tones, but I managed to snap the top ply on my head in about 3-4 hours of play time. Sending mine back now for them to study why and how it happened. I’m definitely in the same boat as that other guy, a center dot, perhaps under the top ply, might do some good. Or maybe thickening up one of the plies a little bit?
You’re a beast is what they concluded?
Dudes great stuff Love the honesty and intellectual approach to drums ! However , I’m still waiting for the cymbal series and please increase your video rates to twice a week maybe ! Love the stuff
I've been a big fan of Evans heads and have used coated G2s over Reso 7s for a quick decay, but I want to try other heads like the clear G2s, clear or coated G12s and clear EC2s at some point. I've liked the G1 and HD Dry snare heads and I practically swear by the 300 snare side, and I may try a UV1 next for a snare head because I play a lot of jazz and I've heard they're great for brushes.
But my concern with the UV heads is the fact that the coating doesn't go all the way to the edge, and as a result, the coated portion could be off center and bring a challenge for tuning. I know it's kind of a look thing, and I definitely agree that it does make it look cool, but I would rather the coating go all the way around the head as other Evans heads do so that this issue is limited. I'm really obsessed with symmetry (I go crazy with making sure my sticks are straight before I buy them) and I personally believe that a slight off-center placement could present an issue for me. I've played other people's kits and concert toms at my college with the Remo Controlled Sound black dot heads and have occasionally found heads to not have the dot centered which makes it difficult to tune.
Then again, Evans does have the Level 360 tech to assist with tuning (which is why I like it so much) but until Evans decides to put the coating all the way around the edge, I think that for my playing I will stick with traditional coated Evans heads. Do you guys at Sounds Like A Drum know if the coating not going all the way around does anything to affect the sound of the head/present any tuning challenges aside from possible off center placement?
Keep up the awesome work, love the videos!!
Drums sound amazing!👌🏼
+Sounds Like A Drum
Great demo & review, Ben. And that's a beautiful Pearl kit!
However, I think it would have been way better to demo these Double-Ply UV2 heads on a kit using standard Triple-Flange Steel Hoops instead of the Pearl's Diecast Hoops.
Regarding the original UV1 heads, I loved the durability of the Coating and the heads overall, and the UV1 coating was excellent for using brushes on the snare as well.
I tried a full set of the UV1's on my practice kit, and while they held up remarkably well for the 6+ months that I used them, I found that I missed and preferred the tonal qualities of the Remo Coated Ambassadors, and that includes for recording as well.
When I switched back to the Remo AC's, I also didn't realize how different the stick rebound & feel was with the UV1's. It wasn't bad per se, just different, and I preferred the stick/rebound feel of the Remo's right away.
Of course, all of this is subjective, and everyone will have different preferences. I mostly play jazz and play with a lot of dynamics from very soft pianissimo to all-out wailing on swing solos, and the Remo AC's tended to sing & have a more consistent tone at all dynamics. Just my .02
Thanks so much! One of the things I love about this kit and setup with these hoops is that I've tested (to great length) every single model of Evans tom heads on them and most Remo and Aquarian heads as well. It's the baseline that I tend to compare most drumheads with.
Since we've used it for demonstrating a variety of heads/tuning methods on this channel, it seemed about right to stay consistent (especially since this is the kit I was personally using to test these particular heads for D'Addario). As such, I've got to disagree with the notion that a test with triple-flange hoops would have been "way better. It would have been different, and that's fine. That may be something to try when the final production models come out. Thanks for watching! -Ben
+Sounds Like A Drum
Thanks for the reply. I get where you are coming from with wanting to keep things consistent from test to test. I would do the same if it was *just for my personal comparison* using my daily driver kit.
HOWEVER, you are trying to reach a broad audience of drummers, and the reality is that the majority of the drumming community will be using a kit with standard Triple-Flange Hoops. I'd guesstimate that to be roughly 80% of the drum kits sold and used in the past, present, and foreseeable future.
For example, out of my current 8 drum kits, only one (a vintage Gretsch) has Die-Cast Hoops, and one other kit has maple/wood hoops. So again, the majority are triple-flange (albeit of varying thickness and weight).
I'm just sayin' that for *most* of your viewers, it probably would have been a better reference point to use standard hoops since the die-cast hoops will change the sound properties considerably, and again, probably no more than 20% of your viewers will be using die-cast.
It's still a fantastic and valid demo, and you did an excellent job in explaining the sonic & physical properties of these heads in comparison to others.
But IMO, I see this video as being more advantageous to Evans' product development team since these heads are not the final versions.
I think that it's great to give the opportunity for your viewers to be able to chime in and give their thoughts to help steer Evans in the right direction with the development of these new heads. But it's also somewhat of a waste because 99.5% of your viewers will NEVER be able to buy or use these *exact* (prototype) heads.
In addition, I would bet that Evans will want to target the broadest market of drummers with these, and again, I feel that the majority would be on triple-flange hoop kits of course. Perhaps most of the other Beta Testers ARE using triple-flange hoops, so I think this is still a very useful demonstration and analysis.
I'd really look forward to watching and hearing your Demo of these when the final production models are released. But of course I'd prefer it to be on a good, currently available, well-known/popular kit that more of your audience would be familiar with and relate to, and one that is outfitted with standard triple-flange hoops. :-P
I in no way mean to be a jerk with my comments. I just want your already excellent RUclips drum channel to become even better and for you guys to reach an even wider audience. ;)
I experienced the same issue with the center dot of the UV, in particular the 16” and bass drum heads.
It caused issues with seating and tuning and eventually went back to Remo.
That's some important feedback for Evans to know and I made note of my experiences when I provided my thoughts on the head. Cheers! -Ben
I think they sound great on all the videos I've heard. I've never played uv1s but I'm thinking about getting some.
They’re definitely worth experimenting with. Cheers! -Ben
Within the first 3 seconds of playing, I already know my next head change.
BUT I agree they might not be as versatile as G2 HMMM... I sometimes use G2 for jazz and they SING!!! maybe try a 6 or 5 millimeter?
These sound great!
Would these be good with g1 heads? That’s what I’m using as my resonant heads at the moment.
Now that they're publicly available, how do they compare to an EC2S an a tom in your opinion? Are there any changes from the prototypes you tested in this video?
We'll have a video talking all about our experiences with the new UV2 soon. Still spending some time with them and getting to know them.
Have you made a video using different strands of snare wires to show how they sound different on the same drum?
Not yet! That might have to be a thing for the future. Cheers! -Ben
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If you guys end of doing this test, please include the Fat-Cat dual/adjustable tension snare wires. They allow you to have two different snare wire tensions on the head using your single strainer tension adjustment...
Somewhat like a philharmonic snare that has a multi-strainer throw-off. It allows for better sensitivity across the head and for ghost notes, etc.
I saw them in Gc today I’m thinking about getting a set to counterpart my uv1s also will probably get a set of 2ply clears like ec2 or emperor blacks
Just recommended these to the drummer of full of heck (youtube name change).
Interesting things happening at Evans, Calftone, UV1, now this... Well, it might have its place but for me it sounds too dead, too much like a cardboard-box. G2 and Emperor coateds still have a nice tone to them, but those?... not so much imho. But then, I'm not a hard hitter, playing in a metalband, so, those are probably not made for me anyway.
Could you guys do a video on classic big band kit tuning with bigger drums? Sort of a buddy rich type sound. Thanks!
Hey there! We'll see what we can do, some requests have come for small-group bop tuning as well, so we may have to start tackling full-kit sounds :) - Cody
*Thanks for the preview.* I already use Evans®/D'Addario® heads on my TAMA®/Hoshino® New Imperialstars, with EC2 coated tom batters and a B14HD/S14R30 on snare; for my 14"x6.5" steel-shell rebuild project, I'm thinking wood hoops for a B14UV2 top and S14R50 or TT14RGL bottom with six turns of monofilament nylon - I'm used to a less trebly tone.
I play the UV1s,which I like, and they are even more warm with out overing. The UV2's are a little too dead for me. Not so responsive. They would probably work well for hard hitters and heavy rock ,or metal.
Hello thank you very much for this vid, can you advise me for resonant heads which could go with UV1 or UV2 Many thanks in advance
Thanks! The "best" of anything in the world of drum sounds is completely subjective and dependent on the circumstances. You really can't go wrong with a clear single-ply 10mil drumhead for a reso but there are lots of other options out there that may be better fitting for you depending on a number of factors. This is the kind of conversation we'll be diving deep into on the discussion board for Patreon supporters.
I know this may seem random but does anyone know what hi hats those are?
Prototype Zildjian 15” Fat Hats. These things are the jam!
@@SoundsLikeADrum Thanks so much. Really appreciate the swift response!
The first time you guys have setup a full kit lol
Did this with the Hydraulic video as well since we were featuring heads for the full kit. -Ben
Ahhhh I forgot!
Also one thing I wanted to say, that you guys could possibly pass on. One issue I have with the UV series is that the heads almost sound a bit boxy. I love the consistency of the coating, but the tone proves to he less organic than Remo heads. It's a shame, considering the quality of the coating. And I would love to see Evans release the 12 mil Calftones that were being tested. I'd love to see that, and I was disappointed to see only the 7 mil released for toms and snares. Are the working on anything else in that line, such as experimenting with a different process?
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I completely agree regarding the UV1 heads. Love the durability of the Coating and heads overall, and the UV1 was excellent for using brushes on the snare as well.
I tried a full set of the UV1's on my practice kit, and while they held up remarkably well for the 6+ months that I used them, I found that I missed and preferred the tonal qualities of the Remo Coated Ambassadors, and that includes for recording as well.
When I switched back to the Remo AC's, I also didn't realize how different the stick rebound & feel was with the UV1's. It wasn't bad per se, just different, and I preferred the stick/rebound feel of the Remo's right away.
Of course, all of this is subjective, and everyone will have different preferences. I mostly play jazz and play with a lot of dynamics from very soft pianissimo to all out wailing, and the Remo AC's tended to sing & have a more consistent tone at all dynamics. Just my .02
@@bbfoto7248 My thoughts exactly. Though I switch between Remo and Aquarian.
I love sounds like a drum, but if I’m being picky then I would say I don’t like it how you guys predominantly promote certain companies. I’d love to see an equal playing field where all companies are promoted solely based on their strengths.
Other than that I love this channel.
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Haven’t heard anything from Aquarian or Remo.
Hello - love the show - always more to learn :) do you have a mailing address ?
Feel free to hit us up via the business inquiries email address on the channel "About" page. Cheers! -Ben
DW concrete snare review?
Hit up DW and let them know that you'd like to see the drum featured here! You can contact them via their customer service team or their social channels. Cheers! -Ben
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I'll be calling Evans . I am a beta tester as well and have tested this head . The prototypes are supposed to be confidential . You clearly violated that. I'll be sure to send them a link to this video.
Donnie Fisk Ben has connections with D’addario. Ben used to work for them. I highly doubt he would disregard any legalities concerning the divulging of information on these heads.
Nobody likes a tattletale.
For what it's worth, I went back and read the letter that came with the heads I received and there wasn't a single mention of confidentiality whatsoever. That being said, I respect their efforts and would understand if they wished to keep this quiet for the time being, which is why I confirmed with their product manager that it was okay to feature these in an episode. You may have received a different letter though I suspect that the one packaged with the heads was given to everyone involved. I'd recommend checking again to see if yours included any messaging about confidentiality. -Ben
That's like the most polite shutdown ever for this stuffed shirt.
Donnie Fisk, you are a crybaby tattletale. I hope Evans kicks you off the roster list. I don’t want to purchase products from a company that endorses a 2 yr. old like you. I’m pretty sure you aren’t even cool enough to be a drummer.
I find this channel to be just a little pretentious
Dallas Bryan lol this channel is the opposite of pretentious
he HAD connections with them ... little do y'all know that the "letter" that comes with the head says confidential , call me whatever you like , I rest easy at night knowing I'm an honest person . Besides , I play for a well known artist so y'alls amateur remarks just make me laugh .
Hey man, I appreciate that you’re looking out for the company and all but we wouldn’t have made this video if we didn’t receive permission. I talk to the team at Evans on a regular basis and this was totally sanctioned. Thanks for watching... -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum yeah I'm done watching your videos. I don't feel any tester should be held in higher regard than any other of the 1,000 testers . Defeats the purpose of testing if " inside connections " precede anything else.
It is probably safe to assume that his letter was different than yours. Having "had" connections with Evans/D'addario, and especially having worked in their product development and social media, he is likely very aware of any confidentiality agreements. My guess is that, while you are a beta tester, Ben has a "Reviewer" status or something similar. I totally respect you sending this Evans' way, but I suspect they've seen and approved it ;)
Jesus man chill out
Donnie, you’re totally entitled to watch or not watch whatever you choose. Other individuals have produced videos as well and D’Addario has approved them to be shared so this really isn’t special treatment.
Regardless, let’s all act like adults here. No need for insulting anyone and it won’t be tolerated any further. Those that create a hostile environment going forward will have comments removed and risk being blocked. Let’s keep this civil and focus on the drum sounds. -Ben