Thank you for the great video!👍🏻 Consumption on highway speeds are way too high when you need drive much on highways like me. My Renault Kadjar 2022, 1.5 dci/edc consumes about the same 5.5 litres in city, 3.5 litres on 90km/h, 5,2 litres on 120km/h, 6-6.5 litres on 140km/h.(consumptions are on cruise control).
So, It seems to me, that we have to learn how to drive it very smooth and calm😁. Anyway, the real advantage în fuel consumption regarding this car is in city driving.
Hello. I have a Nissan X-trail E Power, no e4orce, and the consumption in my first 1000 km is not so bad. Currently IT appears 6,8 on my dashboard. I've drivven it about 50/50 of the time în city and highway /national roads, with a top speed of 120 km/h. From what I've seen, at 120 km/h, the consumption in 'Standard' and 'Eco' mode was around 7,1-7,5 l/100 km(not bad), 😊😊, but, surprisingly, în 'Sport' mode, was between 6,6 and 7,1 l/100 km😮😮😮. In a small city, with lots of hills and descents, It usually takes between 4,4 and 8,6 l/100 km. So, my 6.8 average so far it's a decent one , considering the vehicul mass and (still) low temperatures.
6,8 l/100 km is 100% expected result from 50/50 (city/suburban also with highway) driving (5.x in a city makes the difference). The consumption on highway does not depend on the driving mode until of course the measured distance is too short (different final consumption of the energy from the battery). What distance and what avg. speed did you have from the highway driving? Did you make it in both ways on one measurement?
I understand :) The best way is to send the photo of such result with the info if it was in one or both directions :) Because the target speed does not mean avg. speed. It is extremely difficult to achieve similar avg. speed to target speed during the day. Usually it is more like 90-100 km/h when the set speed is 120 km/h. Other thing is of course the difference between tacho and GPS speed.
I'm very courious if the 2WD version (regular e-power without e-4force) is more effective in fuel consumption. This car is really a good choice in his class. The way it rides can may make up for the slightly higher fuel consumption.
Apparently, good Look is not everything. With this test consumption on highways or faster roads is not just disappointing, it is simply a no go for that car. At the bottom of the table good diesel from Audi kills the rest
Funny thing: Audi SQ8 with 4.0 l V8 biturbo diesel with proper AWD drive and 436 HP is more efficient at EVERY speed than this Nissan: 6,3 instead of 6,5 at 90kmh 8,9 instead of 9,0 at 120kmh 10,8 instead of 11,9 at 140kmh
Not in the city though, you've missed that part and I bet you've done that on purpouse... If Toyota, Honda or Nissan were to create a Hybrid based on Diesel, it would likely beat that fuel economy by a lot!
@@ukrytykrytyk8477 this is why I wrote "at every speed". Even if you drive ~50 km every day in a city you will make no more than 1200-1500 km per month. One longer trip can have longer distance
@@ukrytykrytyk8477 you know that my comment was kind a trolling, but when we compare sth closer like Mercedes GLC with diesel 300d which is still more powerfull, we have: 5,5 instead of 6,9 in a city 9,0 instead of 6,7 at 120 kmh 11,9 instead of 8,1 at 140 kmh so it is enough to make one, only one trip per month with 600 km distance to destroy the whole advantage of Nissan X-Trail in a city from 1500 kms
Thank you for listing the graph to campare the competitors, awsome video! Nissan e-Power seems more reasonable when driving in town, but on highway, it could give us an option, for example, adding a single gear transmission to let ICE drives the car. A lot of Chinese car company already developed this kind of hybrid system, which can give a balanced city/highway fuel consumption. I live in China, so when considering this segment I could have more options. But nowadays in China, if you want buy a plug-in hybrid or an EV car, you could only be registrated with a new Green Plate. My parents hate EV and want the new car using a hybrid system that can be registrated with a old Blue Plate (most petrol car use this). Current Chinese hybrid car are all using plug-in so they can't use Blue Plate. e-Power seems to be the only option in this class. Why not Toyota? Cuz' my mom rather buy a Lexus that a Toyota, and Lexus in China is much more expensive. Nissan can help me get rid of the EV milage anxiety when cruising down highway, but highway fuel cunsumption looks pretty bad. What a Joke!
Electric cars have a limitation where their electric motors cannot leverage inertia for energy efficiency like gasoline cars can at high speeds. Instead, electric motors tend to consume more energy as the speed increases. This limitation also applies to ePower, which utilizes motor drive. The 2WD version outperforms e-4ORCE in terms of high-speed performance. If the 4WD version could be programmed to switch and operate with two-wheel drive during high-speed cruising, potentially achieving a similar effect.
The outside temperature is visible all the time on the dash :) When we talk about electric cars, they have to use energy from the battery to heat the cabin and the battery itself so yes, they use a little bit more energy during the winter time, but X-Trail is not electric car.
in city driving the time with engine off is better than I expected. unless I misunderstood, start at 15:00 end at 16:10 and engine off for most of that time?
Bin den E Power mit Allrad Probe gefahren. Samstag, kein Verkehr, 50 KM, übernommen vom Händler mit 5000 km gelaufen. Bin los zur Autobahn, 10 Liter Verbrauch, dann 20 KM Autobahn, leichte Steigungen und zurück, 7,2 Liter Verbrauch bei 90 km/h bis 120 Km/h, dann 10 km Dorf Landstraße, danach 6,6 Liter Verbrauch. Ich denke die Version mit 204 PS ohne Allrad wird weniger verbrauchen, da der Allrad permanent mit läuft. Ich den Tekna kaufen, ohne Allrad.
@Qashqaij12 Nissan wenn Mann auf dem Land wohnt, dann braucht man ein großes Auto, für den Transport, Familie, Hobby, ich denke dass ich den vom Verbrauch auf 5,5 Liter hin bekomme. Autobahn fahre ich 10 x mal im Jahr.
@@dar7man Depends on what we think is "right" :) The consumption is too high, it is correct, but in my opinion this is what we expected. There is no gearbox, so the behaviour of this car is like electric cars (in terms of fuel consumption)
Nissan has the worst HEV system I ever seen. The efficiency is very poor. And you have to pay extra for this. Simply just buy a gas or diesel one, if you REALLY want to buy a Nissan nowadays. (I do not know, why would you do that.)
@@1001cars Why didi you do this highway fuel comsumtion in Eco mode?Do you got the data in other cars in same way?.Anyway I don’t enven think about Eco mode in highway with my Xtrail !
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Fuel consumption is disappointed.
Thank you for the great video!👍🏻 Consumption on highway speeds are way too high when you need drive much on highways like me. My Renault Kadjar 2022, 1.5 dci/edc consumes about the same 5.5 litres in city, 3.5 litres on 90km/h, 5,2 litres on 120km/h, 6-6.5 litres on 140km/h.(consumptions are on cruise control).
Overall bad consumption for a hybrid car. Almost 12l/100km/h for 140km/h!?!?
So, It seems to me, that we have to learn how to drive it very smooth and calm😁. Anyway, the real advantage în fuel consumption regarding this car is in city driving.
Hello. I have a Nissan X-trail E Power, no e4orce, and the consumption in my first 1000 km is not so bad. Currently IT appears 6,8 on my dashboard. I've drivven it about 50/50 of the time în city and highway /national roads, with a top speed of 120 km/h. From what I've seen, at 120 km/h, the consumption in 'Standard' and 'Eco' mode was around 7,1-7,5 l/100 km(not bad), 😊😊, but, surprisingly, în 'Sport' mode, was between 6,6 and 7,1 l/100 km😮😮😮. In a small city, with lots of hills and descents, It usually takes between 4,4 and 8,6 l/100 km. So, my 6.8 average so far it's a decent one , considering the vehicul mass and (still) low temperatures.
6,8 l/100 km is 100% expected result from 50/50 (city/suburban also with highway) driving (5.x in a city makes the difference). The consumption on highway does not depend on the driving mode until of course the measured distance is too short (different final consumption of the energy from the battery). What distance and what avg. speed did you have from the highway driving? Did you make it in both ways on one measurement?
@@1001cars, the distante on highway was around 100 km and 120 was my speed on Cruise control, so, i suppose The average was close to that.
I understand :) The best way is to send the photo of such result with the info if it was in one or both directions :) Because the target speed does not mean avg. speed. It is extremely difficult to achieve similar avg. speed to target speed during the day. Usually it is more like 90-100 km/h when the set speed is 120 km/h. Other thing is of course the difference between tacho and GPS speed.
This is on winter tyres, right? Surely the fuel economy would improve on sunmer/all season tyres.
I'm very courious if the 2WD version (regular e-power without e-4force) is more effective in fuel consumption. This car is really a good choice in his class. The way it rides can may make up for the slightly higher fuel consumption.
Apparently, good Look is not everything. With this test consumption on highways or faster roads is not just disappointing, it is simply a no go for that car.
At the bottom of the table good diesel from Audi kills the rest
Funny thing: Audi SQ8 with 4.0 l V8 biturbo diesel with proper AWD drive and 436 HP is more efficient at EVERY speed than this Nissan:
6,3 instead of 6,5 at 90kmh
8,9 instead of 9,0 at 120kmh
10,8 instead of 11,9 at 140kmh
Not in the city though, you've missed that part and I bet you've done that on purpouse... If Toyota, Honda or Nissan were to create a Hybrid based on Diesel, it would likely beat that fuel economy by a lot!
@@ukrytykrytyk8477 this is why I wrote "at every speed". Even if you drive ~50 km every day in a city you will make no more than 1200-1500 km per month. One longer trip can have longer distance
@@piotrk1722 And you're making exuses. Most driving people make is involving some form of speeding up and slowing down.
@@ukrytykrytyk8477 you know that my comment was kind a trolling, but when we compare sth closer like Mercedes GLC with diesel 300d which is still more powerfull, we have:
5,5 instead of 6,9 in a city
9,0 instead of 6,7 at 120 kmh
11,9 instead of 8,1 at 140 kmh
so it is enough to make one, only one trip per month with 600 km distance to destroy the whole advantage of Nissan X-Trail in a city from 1500 kms
@@piotrk1722 Even GLC 220d needs ~8l/100km in the city (not from vendor's data, but daily use). 300d would consume more.
Thank you for listing the graph to campare the competitors, awsome video!
Nissan e-Power seems more reasonable when driving in town, but on highway, it could give us an option, for example, adding a single gear transmission to let ICE drives the car. A lot of Chinese car company already developed this kind of hybrid system, which can give a balanced city/highway fuel consumption.
I live in China, so when considering this segment I could have more options. But nowadays in China, if you want buy a plug-in hybrid or an EV car, you could only be registrated with a new Green Plate. My parents hate EV and want the new car using a hybrid system that can be registrated with a old Blue Plate (most petrol car use this). Current Chinese hybrid car are all using plug-in so they can't use Blue Plate.
e-Power seems to be the only option in this class. Why not Toyota? Cuz' my mom rather buy a Lexus that a Toyota, and Lexus in China is much more expensive.
Nissan can help me get rid of the EV milage anxiety when cruising down highway, but highway fuel cunsumption looks pretty bad. What a Joke!
Electric cars have a limitation where their electric motors cannot leverage inertia for energy efficiency like gasoline cars can at high speeds. Instead, electric motors tend to consume more energy as the speed increases.
This limitation also applies to ePower, which utilizes motor drive. The 2WD version outperforms e-4ORCE in terms of high-speed performance.
If the 4WD version could be programmed to switch and operate with two-wheel drive during high-speed cruising, potentially achieving a similar effect.
ok, now I understand why Renault made its own hybrid - the Japanese system does not work in European conditions..
Thank so much for such detail video. I was wondering what temperature was outside? I've heard electric cars drop efficiency in cold weather. Thanks!
The outside temperature is visible all the time on the dash :) When we talk about electric cars, they have to use energy from the battery to heat the cabin and the battery itself so yes, they use a little bit more energy during the winter time, but X-Trail is not electric car.
in city driving the time with engine off is better than I expected. unless I misunderstood, start at 15:00 end at 16:10 and engine off for most of that time?
Yes, here you have whole calculation: ruclips.net/video/0Q5sfZag8KE/видео.html
I have been following you for a long time, your channel is very interesting. But I hope to see Suzuki Swift and Suzuki Baleno in your channel 🌹
Thanks!!!
What the point your fuel consumption highway test with Eco mode ?Which anyone else drive their cars in highway with Eco mode?
What is the point of checking fuel consumption at 120 km/h in eco mode, but 140 km/h in normal/standard mode?
Wow that highway consumption is surprisingly poor. I wonder how the 2WD X-Trail e-Power version compares
Great car!
I have nissan x trail e power e4orce in u.k fuel consumption is not really impressive. City driving is about 37mpg and motorway is about 43mpg
With this drivetrain definitely you should have better mpg in a city compared to motorway
Ich denke dass der E Power ohne Allrad weniger verbrauchen wird. Mein Händler sagt mir das sind so 1,5 Liter weniger
Bin den E Power mit Allrad Probe gefahren. Samstag, kein Verkehr, 50 KM, übernommen vom Händler mit 5000 km gelaufen. Bin los zur Autobahn, 10 Liter Verbrauch, dann 20 KM Autobahn, leichte Steigungen und zurück, 7,2 Liter Verbrauch bei 90 km/h bis 120 Km/h, dann 10 km Dorf Landstraße, danach 6,6 Liter Verbrauch. Ich denke die Version mit 204 PS ohne Allrad wird weniger verbrauchen, da der Allrad permanent mit läuft. Ich den Tekna kaufen, ohne Allrad.
@Qashqaij12 Nissan das stimmt, aber wo willst du heute auf der Autobahn noch schneller als 130 fahren? Ich wohne in Köln und Umgebung, nur Stau!!
Fahre 30 Kilometer zu Arbeit!! 21 Km nur Landstraße und 9 KM Autobahn, allerdings Tempolimit von 80 km/h.
Dafür brauche ich kein Allrad.
@Qashqaij12 Nissan wenn Mann auf dem Land wohnt, dann braucht man ein großes Auto, für den Transport, Familie, Hobby, ich denke dass ich den vom Verbrauch auf 5,5 Liter hin bekomme. Autobahn fahre ich 10 x mal im Jahr.
Terrible fuel efficency.
Auto nadaje się tylko do miasta. Chociaż gabarytami to nie bardzo
For a large vehicle, the urban and B-road figures are very good. Motorway not very good at all.
The worst hybrid implementation yet. They tried hard and made a "Dirty EV". Actually dirty hybrid as well
Too high for only 3 cylinder...
way too high! something is not right here
@@dar7man everything is right here. ADAC got 9.6 l/100 km on highway with 122 kph average. These e-power cars consume a lot on highway, it is the fact
It is not high because of the 3 cylinders but high because of the construction of hybrid system
@@piotrk1722 sorry wasn't precise: something is not right with this hybrid system 🙂
@@dar7man Depends on what we think is "right" :) The consumption is too high, it is correct, but in my opinion this is what we expected. There is no gearbox, so the behaviour of this car is like electric cars (in terms of fuel consumption)
E-force is a very very bad idea, defeats the main purpose of hybrid.
Nissan has the worst HEV system I ever seen. The efficiency is very poor. And you have to pay extra for this. Simply just buy a gas or diesel one, if you REALLY want to buy a Nissan nowadays. (I do not know, why would you do that.)
bad consumption
B Mode on Highway in nonsence.... i tested it in D an it was much more efficient at higher speed levels
Can you show me at least photos? I also tested and the results are IDENTICAL.
Can you plecase tell me what fuel consumption you got on higher speed? Thanks!
@@1001cars i havent any evidence
@@1001cars Why didi you do this highway fuel comsumtion in Eco mode?Do you got the data in other cars in same way?.Anyway I don’t enven think about Eco mode in highway with my Xtrail !
@@swatswat7849 You could check other my tests and you would have seen that I always use eco mode.