Just to clarify, Alania isn't the first instant, sorcery, or otter. She copies the first instant, the first sorcery, and the first otter, so she can copy up to 3 spells per turn.
Yes good point! I'm pretty sure I edited that part out as I was condensing a ramble 😂 It's a good effect you can use up to 3 times per turn, but the gifting cards is rough.
@@voidprism_studios666 Ah, to be young. To believe in a magical Christmas land of endless value. To believe your 5-mana commander with no inherent protection that doubles your spells will still be on the field after a turn cycle. Those were the days… I’ve permanently shelved my Prismatic Bridge Superfriends deck for this very reason. It never actually plays out the way you want it to
The equipment Mabel makes lets you trigger Valiant on your other mice. So it provides an anthem and a way to help the deck do its thing with one creature, which is pretty neat!
I like that if they kill Mabel, you still have the equipment, and then you can target your mice to activate their abilities. Mice can go wide but also want to be targeted. It's great.
0:15 Explanation of Categories 1:19:19 Overview of Final Rankings 1:20:14 Request to the commentariat 1:20:23 Regarding precon upgrade guides 1:25 Alania, Divergent Storm 4:35 Arthur, Marigold Knight 8:12 Baylen, the Haymaker 10:42 Bello, Bard of the Brambles 13:47 Beza, the Bounding Spring 16:19 Bria, Riptide Rogue 18:30 Byrke, Long Ear of the Law (Saffron Olive bronze award: it's "Burke"!) 20:18 Camellia, the Seedmiser 22:23 Clement, the Worrywort 22:29 "with vegilence..." 23:58 Dragonhawk, Fate's Tempest 26:22 Eluge, the Shoreless Sea 28:47 Finneas, Ace Archer 30:59 Flubs, the Fool 36:16 Gev, Scaled Sorch 38:00 Glarb, Calamity's Augur 40:28 Hazel of the Rootbloom (Saffron Olive honorable mention: not "rotbloom") 42:26 Helga, Skittish Seer 45:11 Hugs, Grisly Guardian 46:48 Kastral, the Windcrested 49:23 Kitsa, Otterball Elite 51:29 Lumra, Bellow of the Woods 53:23 Mabel, Heir to Cragflame 55:18 Maha, Its Feathers Night 58:08 Mr. Foxglove 59:58 Ms. Bumbleflower 1:02:50 Muerra, Trash Tactician 1:04:36 The Infamous Cruelclaw 1:06:21 The Odd Acorn Gang Time to enter... the *~*~* Rat Zone *~*~* 1:07:45 Vren, the Relentless 1:10:05 Wick, the Whorled Mind (Saffron Olive silver: it's like "wore-uld") Time to exit... the *~*~* Rat Zone *~*~* 1:12:00 Wildsear, Scouring Maw 1:13:51 Ygra, Eater of All (Saffron Olive gold: surely it's "Ee-grah") 1:15:44 Zinnia, Valley's Voice 1:17:49 Zoraline, Cosmos Caller The request was made, so: this set was made in a lab to be completely unappealing to me specifically, but I'll at least get Wick so I can put all my rats in one place. Happy single shopping to those who are enjoying BB.
Kastral also works well if you can give your birds Double Strike. Vren just cares about opponent's creatures being exiled so blink or flicker effects will work too. Something like Mirror of Life Trapping would be great in the deck
I feel like Zinnia could be a cool go wide voltron deck with a bunch of 1/1 creatures. You don't necessarily have to build it as a etb or populate deck.
Zinnia is the best Bird commander, I think. Every time you make 1/1 white or blue bird tokens, you pump her. You're in red as well as UW, which means you can pair Soulcatcher's Aerie with Goblin Bombardment, and all the good azorius bird legends.
@@joejordan401I'm liking jeskia fliers in general. Several fling creatures have counterspells built in or burn. Token doublers and clones for voltron Spirits for versatility Some good dragons and sphinxes can be a ton of fun
Yep, I'm currently playing a Legendary Aristocrat list for Zinnia, using the legendary rule to sac the original copies (Jeskai usually specifies nontoken)
Great video! BUT can't believe you called Zinnia a blink commander when it's one of the most flexible commanders here. It could be blink but there's way better ones like Arthur for that. Zinnia can be tokens, voltron, x creature tribal, creature combo. You can build around the top or the bottom effect, it's so flexible. Creating tokens that you normally can't do easily is crazy for brewing
Zinnia doesn't blink for shit. I actually tried to add blinking at first for a precon upgrade. Had to completely rewind everything and restart. Somewhat new to magic and zinnia is the first deck I won with. I had a teleportation circle up and it did absolutely nothing anyways. I def got lucky
I agree that glarb is generic but there are some neat things you can do with him: Evoke spells like shriekmaw or mulldrifter, Free spells such as Force of Will or Commandeer off the top. Then there's the obvious Bolas's Citadel and reanimation theme
I think Ygra is the perfect Wave of Vitriol commander, as long as you plan ahead and build with mostly basic lands (very easy to do as you have green ramp spells). For opponents its crippling, taking out all creatures, all artifacts, all enchantments, and most lands - punishing all the greedy mana bases. You're left with a strong board state, AND a HUGE commander that will 1 shot opponents. I've never actually cast the spell before, but this beck might be worth building just to do it one time :) Also, its the perfect deck for Karn and Collector Ouphe as well.
I want to love Mabel so much, but the biggest miss is the fact that Cragflame, the legendary sword that she's the heir to, and is always seen wielding, doesn't enter the battlefield automatically equipped to Mabel. They could've made her cost 2RW and it would've been fine I think, since a 3 cmc 4/4 Vigilance, Trample, Haste would be a bit much.
-Fantastic- Mr. Foxglove looks interesting. Gonna brew a group-hug deck, thinking about giving everyone lots of cards, then I can draw lots of cards when I attack c: probably win with mill or labman+Laquatus's Creativity (also Forced Fruition gonna do a looooot of work lol)
Missed the mark with Zinnia, what seemingly no one is paying attention to is you can utilize mechanics to cast without cost and still pay 2 for offspring, cast from exile or graveyard. You can run blink as protection, but that really isn't the point. Zinnia is low key busted, anything printed in Jeskai colors going forward gets to ignore singleton format and for 2 extra casting mana get an additional permanent, outside of legendaries without support.
@lunarlight3131 Mr foxglove is white blue green. Cruelclaw is black red. They are both outlaws, and likely, both theives. On damage, cruelclaw cheats something out from your library. On attack, Mr foxglove draws you cards, or cheats something out from your hand. Very similar functions, but very different mechanically, and interesting for 2 creatures that are exact opposite colors.
The lands thing for me with Lumra is gravy. It's another big beater bear for my Ayula deck. I may put a few things like Evolving wilds and Terramorphic expanse in there too now though.
I've been playing around with Dragonhawk in the 99 of my Omnath, Locus of Rage deck. I like the synergy with creating the 5/5 tokens and then slamming down the Dragonhawk for big damage to everyone (plus the impulse draw). And welcome back Tomer!
Glarb is good with Adventure cards, because I believe you can cast the cheaper adventure side from the top of your library if the non-adventure side is 4 or more MV. In relation to Mabel, the mouse theme is Valiant which triggers off of targetting with spells or abilities, so Cragflame and other equipment are good for triggering that on the mice in the set.
Precons are a great way to start! Especially ones from the last year or two. You can upgrade it later as you learn more about the game, and then dissassemble for parts if necessary, once yu know what you want to play. For context, myself and my mrs got into magic with precons 4 years ago, and we srill have one of them going strong today. The other one got folded into a deck that I consider more enjoyable to play.
100% depends on you. I built Tasha for my first deck because I thought she looked awesome, but if you vibe with a precon's vibe then you can't really go too wrong
Do also check the prices of the cards like on mtggoldfish's website that has the precon's list, sometimes its cheaper to buy the singles for a commander precon deck than the precon itself.
The Muerra deck I've brewed up only plays 9 raccoons which offer some sort of value, such as mana dorks, card advantage or removal. It's not worth playing bad raccoons to turn them into bad mana dorks, but it makes your good ones even better.
I’d throw eluge in my flood counters island walk deck in simic too tbh it’s less of a spell slinger deck and more of a counters deck but I need spells for the counters so it will work out anyway
Beza + ashnod's altar + eldrazi displacer = unlimited treasures if you're behind on lands and creatures. And you can play as many cards in your deck until you get stuck with the handful of lands
If I get Dragonhawk, its going in my Animar deck. Pay 2 red to enter him. Then get multiple creatures to play for cheap with Animars "pay 1 less for each +1/+1" and "get a +1/+1 for each creature cast".
I might be wrong here... but Tomer uses "on a stick" a couple times in the video to refer to any effects that are tacked onto a creature (ETB or static). My impression was that "on a stick" was more referring to an effect that is traditionally a one time use (typically instant or sorcery) that is now repeatable (generally a tap ability). Originally coming from Isochron Scepter. The repeatable part being really important in distinguishing this from just "on a body".
For what it's worth I'm quite sure I've heard both uses in the past, like over ten years ago. It might just be one of those phrases that has two meanings at this point.
Zinnia I really think can go in a token direction pretty easily. Nesting dovehawk, warren warleader, oltec matterweaver, akim the soaring wind so on. Using payoffs like purphoros, impact tremors, witty roastmaster to destroy the whole table. Plenty of value cards can get copied along the way. And well panharmonicon m/virtue gives another offspring and doubles your burn effects. Quite a cool strategy borrowing from multiple concepts and cool to see in Jeskai.
Eh then it's a counters deck. Now conspiracy naming rats means that any creature that enters makes a snail that enters as a rat. To make a not snail. Adding in a few creatures that draw cards or a sac outlet to make wick leave so the game won't end in a draw is important. But yay rats.
Vren is 100% for the command zone . Literally the only rat 99 he could go in is wick and it doesnt have near as many ways to fuel it there. Throw it in the command zone, add a ton of removal and counterspells and you have a super powerful deck.
I want to put Mabel in the 99 of my Akiri equipment deck, and I don't have any other mice. The deck needs multiple creatures, the deck needs multiple equipment, and this is just strait forwardly both. A 3/3 with a Sword of Vengence-like equipment seems good enough for me.
just getting this out there. Wick is insanely strong and is probably a very fringe cedh or at the very least high power commander. Also, gonna be playing Acorn Gang for casual Squirrel Gang!!!
Zinnia, I beg to differ. Blink is possible but you could also run artifacts with affinity cost reduction to eliminate the offspring cost to zero and create TONS of babies. Just cause its BWR, doesn't mean it needs to be a blink deck.
I personally think that Arthur can be built to abuse people creatures with good ETBs because that way could bring in a creature that doesn't good ETV and then at the end of combat it goes back to your hands and then in your second main phase you could play that creature again to get a second ETB! That's how I would
Offspring is a linked trigger as an additional cost and etb. Panharmonicon doubles your tokens. It's squad but only once. Coping the spell also creates additional tokens because the copy remembers that the offspring cost was paid.
I printed a flubs deck we played 2 games The first one I just died without doing much The second game I kinda had a big turn (probably missed a ton of triggers) and the voultron deck tried to kill me hitting me for 19 commander, next turn the right combination of Scute Swarm, anger in the grave, 3 fetch lands drops and delayed fireball from the exile I killed 2 players and the elf deck conceded in his turn... It was a blast but I probably would never build, I already have a fame of decks that takes to many gameplay actions and this one, you can literally have 20 minutes turns and don't win 😅
Cards like zoraline and get are actually better if you build around their non-tribal effects. Pair gev with one of a billion "deal 1 damage to each opponent on upkeep" effects, and then dump a bunch of bodies on the field. Also great in the 99 of rakdos lord of riots. Zoraline reminds me of a worse Alesha, although targeting cmc 3 or less instead of power 2 or less is a significant change, one that gives Zoraline different options. The finality counters are annoying, but you can actually get rid of those by blinking that permanent, so conjurers closet and teleportation circle are auto includes.
Me sitting here watching the Arthur bit and being like "why focus on big spells when you can just get good etbs constantly, like token generating ETBs with impact tremors and such to just wear everyone down with constant recurring tokens that you can throw wheels in on to refill your deck like a machine gun. Also throwing Craig Boone and other "at least two or more creatures attacking cards" to really hit all sides of that card.
Zinnia can be a lot of things way beyond blink. This is a clone deck or if you go with adventures you can play demonstrate to get extra tokens. Im going to flying and clones only to voltron that board up. Jeskia flyiers with dragins, spirits or even some faries. I think spirits is probably the coolest because of quintorious, hofri, donaland the millicent spirit token legand. I also like idea of playing control creatures as a staxs deck or creatures that are anthems or ramp you like solumn and skittering surveyer. 6 mana 2 lands isnt great but its jeskia. And token doublers or clonescan really pump those creatures that get lands. You can do a lot and sure blink or aristocrats is a big easy catagory buuuut any token commander could be doing the same blink or sac theme.
Incase anyone sees this, Tomer says Wildsear isn't a good commander because even Gruul has better enchantment commanders. I just scrolled through the list of Gruul commanders and there are exactly 3 enchantment commanders for them. Wildsear, Bello, and Kaima, the Fractured Calm which only cares about placing auras on your opponent's creatures. Either Wildsear or Bello are the best Gruul enchantment commanders depending on how you want to play them. Bello is aggro and Wildsear is value, and both go in the same decks even with them built differently.
I realized that too I’m in the middle of building a deck around him and I do think he can be a great commander. I’m trying just straight voltron with him using enchantments that double and triple damage and among other things
Wick+ conspiracy + impact tremors infinite snails that turn into rats that make more snails that make more rats that all ping your opponents for damage
All the S tier cards should be frogs since they are the true new blood of the commander meta. Mana Crypt < Rampant Frogantua. The future is green and amphibious. I can see it.
Flubs is everything to me. I’m building a Flubs deck, I just don’t know if I want to go for a stormy thing or a gates thing or a madness thing or some garbage combo of all of it. I just love Flubs!
Hey tomer, just wanted to say it was great to meet you in Amsterdam. Sadly, I didn't get chance to get a game in with you, but hopefully I will at the next one 🙂 now you're living in France you'll have to come over for a UK commandfest at some point 😎
With Dragonhawk, Fate's Tempest - does this card deal damage based on all of the cards that have been exiled this way over the whole game? Since they are still in exile technically. Or does it only count the ones exiled this turn?
@@jameelkurabi unfortunately this is not true. Due to the wording, it is specifically referring to the cards that were exiled by that ability this turn. It will see multiple instances of the trigger in one turn, but will only deal damage based on the cards that were left in exile that turn.
They have very similar decklists.The strixhaven one in my opinion is better for alania specifically because it leans a little more on the high mana value cards, which makes alanias copy ability have more value. In adition to that veyran (the secondary commander in the precon) is actually really good in an alania deck. The main commander from that deck also triggers off of copying spells. The commander for the thunder junction precon would NOT be good in the 99 of alania because it gets value from casting a lot of cheap spells/multiple spells a turn.
Bria shouldn't be a go wide commander. She should be playing creatures that get bigger the more instants and sorceries in your graveyard or exile. Then they get bigger from prowess and become unblockable. Going tall with fewer creatures means only 2-4 spells in a turn can flatten the board.
Lol Tomer, you're so wrong about Zinnia. It is not a blink commander. If you actually read the reminder text, you'll see that Offspring requires the creature to be cast. Blinking does not work with Zinnia.
Just to clarify, Alania isn't the first instant, sorcery, or otter. She copies the first instant, the first sorcery, and the first otter, so she can copy up to 3 spells per turn.
Yes good point! I'm pretty sure I edited that part out as I was condensing a ramble 😂
It's a good effect you can use up to 3 times per turn, but the gifting cards is rough.
@@tomerabramovici32 Consecrated sphinx, Faerie Mastermind, Jeska's Will, Windfall. Use copy/steal enchantment effects to get someone's smothering tithe LOL
@@voidprism_studios666 Ah, to be young. To believe in a magical Christmas land of endless value. To believe your 5-mana commander with no inherent protection that doubles your spells will still be on the field after a turn cycle. Those were the days…
I’ve permanently shelved my Prismatic Bridge Superfriends deck for this very reason. It never actually plays out the way you want it to
Your pod: Wait, so we get to draw 3 cards instead of 1? great!
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Funnily enough that’s where the “draw a card” probably comes in. That’s a lot of bribery.
The equipment Mabel makes lets you trigger Valiant on your other mice. So it provides an anthem and a way to help the deck do its thing with one creature, which is pretty neat!
Don't bother, this man is not mousepilled
@@dominicscaglione2527I know he ate the cheese 🧀
These replies 🤣 I love it
@@dominicscaglione2527 we are based and cheesemaxxing
I like that if they kill Mabel, you still have the equipment, and then you can target your mice to activate their abilities. Mice can go wide but also want to be targeted. It's great.
0:15 Explanation of Categories
1:19:19 Overview of Final Rankings
1:20:14 Request to the commentariat
1:20:23 Regarding precon upgrade guides
1:25 Alania, Divergent Storm
4:35 Arthur, Marigold Knight
8:12 Baylen, the Haymaker
10:42 Bello, Bard of the Brambles
13:47 Beza, the Bounding Spring
16:19 Bria, Riptide Rogue
18:30 Byrke, Long Ear of the Law (Saffron Olive bronze award: it's "Burke"!)
20:18 Camellia, the Seedmiser
22:23 Clement, the Worrywort
22:29 "with vegilence..."
23:58 Dragonhawk, Fate's Tempest
26:22 Eluge, the Shoreless Sea
28:47 Finneas, Ace Archer
30:59 Flubs, the Fool
36:16 Gev, Scaled Sorch
38:00 Glarb, Calamity's Augur
40:28 Hazel of the Rootbloom (Saffron Olive honorable mention: not "rotbloom")
42:26 Helga, Skittish Seer
45:11 Hugs, Grisly Guardian
46:48 Kastral, the Windcrested
49:23 Kitsa, Otterball Elite
51:29 Lumra, Bellow of the Woods
53:23 Mabel, Heir to Cragflame
55:18 Maha, Its Feathers Night
58:08 Mr. Foxglove
59:58 Ms. Bumbleflower
1:02:50 Muerra, Trash Tactician
1:04:36 The Infamous Cruelclaw
1:06:21 The Odd Acorn Gang
Time to enter... the *~*~* Rat Zone *~*~*
1:07:45 Vren, the Relentless
1:10:05 Wick, the Whorled Mind (Saffron Olive silver: it's like "wore-uld")
Time to exit... the *~*~* Rat Zone *~*~*
1:12:00 Wildsear, Scouring Maw
1:13:51 Ygra, Eater of All (Saffron Olive gold: surely it's "Ee-grah")
1:15:44 Zinnia, Valley's Voice
1:17:49 Zoraline, Cosmos Caller
The request was made, so: this set was made in a lab to be completely unappealing to me specifically, but I'll at least get Wick so I can put all my rats in one place. Happy single shopping to those who are enjoying BB.
TY for timestamps!
why don’t you like the set?
Zinnia definitely doesn't have to be blink. At all. Kinda surprised you think that so strongly
I know right. Probably the most open I've seen from the precons.
Blink doesn't even work with offspring, it's a cast trigger. What's the benefit from blinking?
Its even worse, because non-targeted blink even removes all offspring
“Trash even raccoon’s wont eat” LOL
Welcome back Tomer! Hope your vacation was good!
Kastral also works well if you can give your birds Double Strike.
Vren just cares about opponent's creatures being exiled so blink or flicker effects will work too. Something like Mirror of Life Trapping would be great in the deck
Bello also allows creature shenanigans to apply to artifact/enchantments, such as with red creature copying effects, and green Greater Good effects.
Warstorm Surge deals damage when it enters.
Seems good
I feel like Zinnia could be a cool go wide voltron deck with a bunch of 1/1 creatures. You don't necessarily have to build it as a etb or populate deck.
Zinnia is the best Bird commander, I think. Every time you make 1/1 white or blue bird tokens, you pump her. You're in red as well as UW, which means you can pair Soulcatcher's Aerie with Goblin Bombardment, and all the good azorius bird legends.
@@joejordan401I'm liking jeskia fliers in general. Several fling creatures have counterspells built in or burn.
Token doublers and clones for voltron
Spirits for versatility
Some good dragons and sphinxes can be a ton of fun
Yep, I'm currently playing a Legendary Aristocrat list for Zinnia, using the legendary rule to sac the original copies (Jeskai usually specifies nontoken)
Great video!
BUT can't believe you called Zinnia a blink commander when it's one of the most flexible commanders here. It could be blink but there's way better ones like Arthur for that. Zinnia can be tokens, voltron, x creature tribal, creature combo. You can build around the top or the bottom effect, it's so flexible. Creating tokens that you normally can't do easily is crazy for brewing
wouldnt offspring copy an x creature to just being a 1/1 though?
Zinnia doesn't blink for shit. I actually tried to add blinking at first for a precon upgrade. Had to completely rewind everything and restart. Somewhat new to magic and zinnia is the first deck I won with. I had a teleportation circle up and it did absolutely nothing anyways. I def got lucky
I agree that glarb is generic but there are some neat things you can do with him: Evoke spells like shriekmaw or mulldrifter, Free spells such as Force of Will or Commandeer off the top. Then there's the obvious Bolas's Citadel and reanimation theme
Vran is clearly not a 99 card he's a commander and he's scary good
I think Ygra is the perfect Wave of Vitriol commander, as long as you plan ahead and build with mostly basic lands (very easy to do as you have green ramp spells). For opponents its crippling, taking out all creatures, all artifacts, all enchantments, and most lands - punishing all the greedy mana bases. You're left with a strong board state, AND a HUGE commander that will 1 shot opponents. I've never actually cast the spell before, but this beck might be worth building just to do it one time :)
Also, its the perfect deck for Karn and Collector Ouphe as well.
I made a no land deck with flubs and so far he's been a real menace! Great design we need more like this
That sounds interesting what would that look like? Do you have a list? Thanks!
Vran is completely insane in the command zone. Built it with random crap I had lying around and it's very good
I want to love Mabel so much, but the biggest miss is the fact that Cragflame, the legendary sword that she's the heir to, and is always seen wielding, doesn't enter the battlefield automatically equipped to Mabel. They could've made her cost 2RW and it would've been fine I think, since a 3 cmc 4/4 Vigilance, Trample, Haste would be a bit much.
-Fantastic- Mr. Foxglove looks interesting. Gonna brew a group-hug deck, thinking about giving everyone lots of cards, then I can draw lots of cards when I attack c: probably win with mill or labman+Laquatus's Creativity (also Forced Fruition gonna do a looooot of work lol)
Im glad youre back Tomer! I hope you had a lovely vacation!
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Missed the mark with Zinnia, what seemingly no one is paying attention to is you can utilize mechanics to cast without cost and still pay 2 for offspring, cast from exile or graveyard. You can run blink as protection, but that really isn't the point. Zinnia is low key busted, anything printed in Jeskai colors going forward gets to ignore singleton format and for 2 extra casting mana get an additional permanent, outside of legendaries without support.
I like to believe that Cruelclaw and Mr. Foxglove are archenemies.
Umm why?
@lunarlight3131 Mr foxglove is white blue green. Cruelclaw is black red. They are both outlaws, and likely, both theives. On damage, cruelclaw cheats something out from your library. On attack, Mr foxglove draws you cards, or cheats something out from your hand. Very similar functions, but very different mechanically, and interesting for 2 creatures that are exact opposite colors.
The lands thing for me with Lumra is gravy. It's another big beater bear for my Ayula deck. I may put a few things like Evolving wilds and Terramorphic expanse in there too now though.
Eruth, Tormented Prophet seems great in Flubs
Finneas is perfect in my Kudo King of Bears token deck, hyped!
Glad to see someone who appreciates Flubs for what he is - the best Gag and possibly the best cEDH storm commander of all time.
I've been playing around with Dragonhawk in the 99 of my Omnath, Locus of Rage deck. I like the synergy with creating the 5/5 tokens and then slamming down the Dragonhawk for big damage to everyone (plus the impulse draw).
And welcome back Tomer!
Glarb is good with Adventure cards, because I believe you can cast the cheaper adventure side from the top of your library if the non-adventure side is 4 or more MV. In relation to Mabel, the mouse theme is Valiant which triggers off of targetting with spells or abilities, so Cragflame and other equipment are good for triggering that on the mice in the set.
The adventure would also have to be 4 or greater, because the adventure itself is a separate spell
@@iWrecksauce Yep, some rules finally came out about it and the adventure side has to be 4MV on the stack to be casted.
Whats the best way to get in to commander? Precons or building my own budget deck?
Precons are a great way to start! Especially ones from the last year or two. You can upgrade it later as you learn more about the game, and then dissassemble for parts if necessary, once yu know what you want to play.
For context, myself and my mrs got into magic with precons 4 years ago, and we srill have one of them going strong today. The other one got folded into a deck that I consider more enjoyable to play.
@@samuelrobinson4638 thanks, I appreciate it. Any particular recommendations?
100% depends on you. I built Tasha for my first deck because I thought she looked awesome, but if you vibe with a precon's vibe then you can't really go too wrong
Do also check the prices of the cards like on mtggoldfish's website that has the precon's list, sometimes its cheaper to buy the singles for a commander precon deck than the precon itself.
Who would you guys say is the better Izzet otter commander: Bria or Alania?
The Muerra deck I've brewed up only plays 9 raccoons which offer some sort of value, such as mana dorks, card advantage or removal. It's not worth playing bad raccoons to turn them into bad mana dorks, but it makes your good ones even better.
I’d throw eluge in my flood counters island walk deck in simic too tbh it’s less of a spell slinger deck and more of a counters deck but I need spells for the counters so it will work out anyway
Beza + ashnod's altar + eldrazi displacer = unlimited treasures if you're behind on lands and creatures. And you can play as many cards in your deck until you get stuck with the handful of lands
If I get Dragonhawk, its going in my Animar deck. Pay 2 red to enter him. Then get multiple creatures to play for cheap with Animars "pay 1 less for each +1/+1" and "get a +1/+1 for each creature cast".
Dragonhawk also fits really nice in a Bello deck being a creature to block when not your turn but also every artifact and enchantment is 4/4
I might be wrong here... but Tomer uses "on a stick" a couple times in the video to refer to any effects that are tacked onto a creature (ETB or static). My impression was that "on a stick" was more referring to an effect that is traditionally a one time use (typically instant or sorcery) that is now repeatable (generally a tap ability). Originally coming from Isochron Scepter. The repeatable part being really important in distinguishing this from just "on a body".
For what it's worth I'm quite sure I've heard both uses in the past, like over ten years ago. It might just be one of those phrases that has two meanings at this point.
Here's the thing though, I modded my Zinnia to have a bunch of etb & blink and it was EXTREMELY fun.
Zinnia I really think can go in a token direction pretty easily. Nesting dovehawk, warren warleader, oltec matterweaver, akim the soaring wind so on.
Using payoffs like purphoros, impact tremors, witty roastmaster to destroy the whole table.
Plenty of value cards can get copied along the way.
And well panharmonicon m/virtue gives another offspring and doubles your burn effects.
Quite a cool strategy borrowing from multiple concepts and cool to see in Jeskai.
Wick sounds quite good with changelings.
Eh then it's a counters deck.
Now conspiracy naming rats means that any creature that enters makes a snail that enters as a rat. To make a not snail. Adding in a few creatures that draw cards or a sac outlet to make wick leave so the game won't end in a draw is important. But yay rats.
Vren is 100% for the command zone . Literally the only rat 99 he could go in is wick and it doesnt have near as many ways to fuel it there. Throw it in the command zone, add a ton of removal and counterspells and you have a super powerful deck.
Running Eluge in the 99 of my Sveylun merfolk deck to turn on my Islandwalk lords!!
Bello is particularly interesting with vehicles imo
I want to put Mabel in the 99 of my Akiri equipment deck, and I don't have any other mice. The deck needs multiple creatures, the deck needs multiple equipment, and this is just strait forwardly both. A 3/3 with a Sword of Vengence-like equipment seems good enough for me.
Flubs with some miracles and madness cards might be really sick
just getting this out there. Wick is insanely strong and is probably a very fringe cedh or at the very least high power commander. Also, gonna be playing Acorn Gang for casual Squirrel Gang!!!
Zinnia, I beg to differ. Blink is possible but you could also run artifacts with affinity cost reduction to eliminate the offspring cost to zero and create TONS of babies. Just cause its BWR, doesn't mean it needs to be a blink deck.
I personally think that Arthur can be built to abuse people creatures with good ETBs because that way could bring in a creature that doesn't good ETV and then at the end of combat it goes back to your hands and then in your second main phase you could play that creature again to get a second ETB! That's how I would
Offspring triggers off cast so Zinnia isn't really a blink commander.
you're probably running creatures with good etbs and you can blink those with creatures that blink and offspring those creatures to double blink
Offspring is a linked trigger as an additional cost and etb. Panharmonicon doubles your tokens.
It's squad but only once. Coping the spell also creates additional tokens because the copy remembers that the offspring cost was paid.
My eyes, scryfall need to have dark mode
I printed a flubs deck we played 2 games
The first one I just died without doing much
The second game I kinda had a big turn (probably missed a ton of triggers) and the voultron deck tried to kill me hitting me for 19 commander, next turn the right combination of Scute Swarm, anger in the grave, 3 fetch lands drops and delayed fireball from the exile I killed 2 players and the elf deck conceded in his turn... It was a blast but I probably would never build, I already have a fame of decks that takes to many gameplay actions and this one, you can literally have 20 minutes turns and don't win 😅
Cards like zoraline and get are actually better if you build around their non-tribal effects. Pair gev with one of a billion "deal 1 damage to each opponent on upkeep" effects, and then dump a bunch of bodies on the field. Also great in the 99 of rakdos lord of riots. Zoraline reminds me of a worse Alesha, although targeting cmc 3 or less instead of power 2 or less is a significant change, one that gives Zoraline different options. The finality counters are annoying, but you can actually get rid of those by blinking that permanent, so conjurers closet and teleportation circle are auto includes.
Bello also works well with expensive high crew vehicles with good triggers
Tomer's voice sounds so much deeper since I last heard it (which to be fair is quite a while ago).
Flubs with Grolnak would be insane
I haven't watched the video yet, but based solely on the thumbnail, don't you ever disrespect our precious Mabel like that ever again
Literally, I can't take the slander
Kastral reanimator with arcane adaptation could be fun.
Me sitting here watching the Arthur bit and being like "why focus on big spells when you can just get good etbs constantly, like token generating ETBs with impact tremors and such to just wear everyone down with constant recurring tokens that you can throw wheels in on to refill your deck like a machine gun. Also throwing Craig Boone and other "at least two or more creatures attacking cards" to really hit all sides of that card.
Dragon hawk also seems pretty crazy in lozhan decks
Hugs is insane, full of combo artillery
Zinnia can be a lot of things way beyond blink. This is a clone deck or if you go with adventures you can play demonstrate to get extra tokens.
Im going to flying and clones only to voltron that board up. Jeskia flyiers with dragins, spirits or even some faries.
I think spirits is probably the coolest because of quintorious, hofri, donaland the millicent spirit token legand.
I also like idea of playing control creatures as a staxs deck or creatures that are anthems or ramp you like solumn and skittering surveyer. 6 mana 2 lands isnt great but its jeskia. And token doublers or clonescan really pump those creatures that get lands.
You can do a lot and sure blink or aristocrats is a big easy catagory buuuut any token commander could be doing the same blink or sac theme.
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Is there something where I can see the whole list as one?
God bless Tomer, I agree with him about barely anything but I love the dude!
Incase anyone sees this, Tomer says Wildsear isn't a good commander because even Gruul has better enchantment commanders. I just scrolled through the list of Gruul commanders and there are exactly 3 enchantment commanders for them. Wildsear, Bello, and Kaima, the Fractured Calm which only cares about placing auras on your opponent's creatures. Either Wildsear or Bello are the best Gruul enchantment commanders depending on how you want to play them. Bello is aggro and Wildsear is value, and both go in the same decks even with them built differently.
I realized that too I’m in the middle of building a deck around him and I do think he can be a great commander. I’m trying just straight voltron with him using enchantments that double and triple damage and among other things
[Eluge, the Shoreless Sea] goes right in my Chun-Li deck. >:3
Looking forward to throwing Bria into my izzet deck.
Bria in my opinion has a typo. It should say Otter instead of Other creatures get Prowess.
I'd love to see your build of bumbleflower
Im really looking forward to brewing Maha stax
thank you Kaldra Compleat!
Missed you Tomer
I'm trying to figure out what to cut to slot Hugs into my Nikya Primal Surge deck!
kitsa going in stella lee for dang sure
Glarb would be great for a keruga the macrosage companion edh deck.
Wick+ conspiracy + impact tremors infinite snails that turn into rats that make more snails that make more rats that all ping your opponents for damage
Always fun to watch this
All the S tier cards should be frogs since they are the true new blood of the commander meta. Mana Crypt < Rampant Frogantua. The future is green and amphibious. I can see it.
Now listen: Arthur and Nezahal interaction
I love Flubs, but don't really want another Lands deck. Can he be, like, a storm commander or something?
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So the Flubs deck looked absolutely terrible in the commander clash, lol. Hopefully Tomer can get it to work.
Flubs is everything to me. I’m building a Flubs deck, I just don’t know if I want to go for a stormy thing or a gates thing or a madness thing or some garbage combo of all of it. I just love Flubs!
Poor Mabel 😢
They can't hate Maha out if you don't let them have any creatures :)
We are NOT cheesed to meet you! >:(
Beza is sick on paper but into my meta, where everyone is a degenerate on 30 lands, I fully expect this thing to never make a treasure.
Play 29 lands then, surely would work and not backfire terribly.
Hey tomer, just wanted to say it was great to meet you in Amsterdam. Sadly, I didn't get chance to get a game in with you, but hopefully I will at the next one 🙂 now you're living in France you'll have to come over for a UK commandfest at some point 😎
I dont get why he kept saying blink for the offspring commander. Its a cast trigger
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With Dragonhawk, Fate's Tempest - does this card deal damage based on all of the cards that have been exiled this way over the whole game? Since they are still in exile technically. Or does it only count the ones exiled this turn?
It counts every card exiled via Dragonhawk's trigger. Not just the ones from that turn.
@@jameelkurabi unfortunately this is not true. Due to the wording, it is specifically referring to the cards that were exiled by that ability this turn. It will see multiple instances of the trigger in one turn, but will only deal damage based on the cards that were left in exile that turn.
Ahhhh BUZZING to see you playing flubs tomer, can’t wait to see the clash episode!
What izzet precon would work best as a shell for otters? The one from Strixhaven or the one from Thunder Junction?
They have very similar decklists.The strixhaven one in my opinion is better for alania specifically because it leans a little more on the high mana value cards, which makes alanias copy ability have more value. In adition to that veyran (the secondary commander in the precon) is actually really good in an alania deck. The main commander from that deck also triggers off of copying spells. The commander for the thunder junction precon would NOT be good in the 99 of alania because it gets value from casting a lot of cheap spells/multiple spells a turn.
@@vinser1744 thanks!
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Tomer, no one from Toronto LIKES raccoons. We hide from them.
The thing with Finneas is you can also go a blink route, so if anyone wants to block him you can blink him and still get the attack trigger
Bria shouldn't be a go wide commander. She should be playing creatures that get bigger the more instants and sorceries in your graveyard or exile. Then they get bigger from prowess and become unblockable. Going tall with fewer creatures means only 2-4 spells in a turn can flatten the board.
Im putting Mabel in my eivore deck 😂
1:16:55 cutest laugh ever
Lol Tomer, you're so wrong about Zinnia. It is not a blink commander. If you actually read the reminder text, you'll see that Offspring requires the creature to be cast. Blinking does not work with Zinnia.
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Isn’t a beaver Canada’s national animal?
Worst thing about Mabel is that she turns off Skullclamp ;(