1/8" galvanized screening ("hardware cloth") works especially well with method #3, plus the edges don't lift when pulled down by the the anchor wire. Even better is stainless steel mesh, which you can pretty much re-use forever.
Excellent video! Though I am curious, what’s wrong with mesh from the craft store? I’ve only been practicing bonsai since 2020 but the 7mesh has served me fine so far. Is the material for bonsai specific mesh significantly more durable over the years?
@@stottpie interesting, I’ve never had that happen. Granted the mesh has certainly shown a little strain from the pressure of the spring but it’s never snapped on me. I guess if you really crank it down tight then it can snap. I’m able to push it down well tight enough without the snap though. Definitely something for me to keep in mind for repotting season!
If it's working for you definitely stick with it... but in my experience it breaks down fast and is too flimsy to work with for not that much savings in cost
have you ever used drywall tape? I use that for most of my trees in development that aren't yet bonsai, one roll is less than 10 bucks and will last a lifetime@@rakuyobonsai
Method three is great but you cannot use cheapo screen with it as you'll crack individual sections of the plastic. I use three, and can't help myself but to simply clip off the mesh wire when the bonsai is finished being repotted and pulling out the wires so it looks cleaner on the bottom.
Question - you have the mesh on the inside surface of the pot. Does it effect the percolation of water because it creates more surface tension in those areas where the mesh is, or does it actually have the opposite effect? And would fastening the mesh on the bottom of the pot instead of the inside surface affect the surface tension of the water in the bottom of the pot?
In my experience water makes it out just fine, I'm not aware of anyone doing the alternative because I think there's a better chance it could come off, especially moving the trees around
If the Z-clip is done correctly, it won't move.. Ive never seen your method before, but I will give it a shot to see if I like it. Adam Toth just showed me his method using aluminum that is very fast as well.
"If it is done correctly" is a huge if in my experience! I'm terrible at both the Z and butterfly methods,, and I'm VERY glad that this is a much simpler method available.
Thank you Andrew. A straightforward simple and practical approach. Breath of fresh air without needing to buy timber bamboo.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Andrew. As an idea, I'd love to see a video on your method for securing trees into the pot with wire.
Will do
Been using method number 3 for 29 years! Never let me down! :-)
Same for me, I’ve used it for the last 6 years since I’ve learned it and will never go back!
Thanks Andrew! I was missing this amazing videos!
More to come!
We who must repot salute you!
Happy repotting, glad it was helpful!
Most helpful, thanks for sharing Andrew.
Glad it was helpful!
Nice Andrew! Thanks for sharing
You bet!
Interesting. Always been taught that last one can lift the edge which then can create a gap
It can especially if you’re using lower quality screen
1/8" galvanized screening ("hardware cloth") works especially well with method #3, plus the edges don't lift when pulled down by the the anchor wire. Even better is stainless steel mesh, which you can pretty much re-use forever.
I've tried those before and they definitely work, but I prefer the screen made for bonsai
Excellent video! Though I am curious, what’s wrong with mesh from the craft store? I’ve only been practicing bonsai since 2020 but the 7mesh has served me fine so far. Is the material for bonsai specific mesh significantly more durable over the years?
If you try to make a spring with cheap plastic mesh it will crack it, I've found.
@@stottpie interesting, I’ve never had that happen. Granted the mesh has certainly shown a little strain from the pressure of the spring but it’s never snapped on me. I guess if you really crank it down tight then it can snap. I’m able to push it down well tight enough without the snap though. Definitely something for me to keep in mind for repotting season!
If it's working for you definitely stick with it... but in my experience it breaks down fast and is too flimsy to work with for not that much savings in cost
have you ever used drywall tape? I use that for most of my trees in development that aren't yet bonsai, one roll is less than 10 bucks and will last a lifetime@@rakuyobonsai
Thanks for posting this! What kind of wire are you using? Galvanized steel or raw aluminum? Greetings from Sweden!
Always aluminum wire, I strongly recommend you avoid steel for bonsai wire
Thoughts on putting the "cut" sides inside the pot rather than outside? as to not accidentally cut yourself lifting up the pot?
You need the cut sides underneath so you can pry them back to release the screen when you go to repot next time
Now I see, why this pot wasn't for sale :)
I've learned you have to snatch up Nao pots fast!
Method three is great but you cannot use cheapo screen with it as you'll crack individual sections of the plastic. I use three, and can't help myself but to simply clip off the mesh wire when the bonsai is finished being repotted and pulling out the wires so it looks cleaner on the bottom.
Good screen is a must!
Question - you have the mesh on the inside surface of the pot. Does it effect the percolation of water because it creates more surface tension in those areas where the mesh is, or does it actually have the opposite effect? And would fastening the mesh on the bottom of the pot instead of the inside surface affect the surface tension of the water in the bottom of the pot?
In my experience water makes it out just fine, I'm not aware of anyone doing the alternative because I think there's a better chance it could come off, especially moving the trees around
If the Z-clip is done correctly, it won't move.. Ive never seen your method before, but I will give it a shot to see if I like it. Adam Toth just showed me his method using aluminum that is very fast as well.
For me it takes too much time and isn't as strong of a hold
"If it is done correctly" is a huge if in my experience! I'm terrible at both the Z and butterfly methods,, and I'm VERY glad that this is a much simpler method available.
Do you moss? I go parking lot moss hunting and mix it with sphagnum.
Yes I'm a big advocate of moss, you're doing it right!
How about no wire...
How would the mesh stay in place?
Too much risk for the mesh moving and soil falling out the bottom