Yep, that’s part of why it cost 3. Part of the confusion might be that Arena puts the same red halo effect on your creatures and your opponents creatures when you cast Eerie interference.
Fog was green ways of beating agro, but because control made turbo fog, there are no more than 2, and they normally have terrible conditions or crazy high cost to prevent turbo fog from reaking havoc again
It seems Seth also wasn’t prepared for the fog ;P, as it seems he missed the subtle bonus of the card… your creatures still deal damage. Against the hydra deck and also the convoke deck Seth seemed to miss the fact that Erie interference would have let his creatures eat the OP’s on blocks. This would have made a big difference versus convoke and would have made the hydra game less stressful. But I get it Seth was just so excited to Fog again he didn’t read past that point which I totally get, MAN LOVES HIS FOGS.
33:55 see, I would joke about the aggro players not reading the cards in Seth's deck, but Seth doesn't even read the cards in his deck, so I can't exactly cast too much shade, unless there's a reason why Seth didn't want to kill opponent's 3/2 and 1/1 for free. (You can make the argument for the 3/2 - but I think it's just that Seth doesn't know what Eerie Interference does) And it almost lost him the game vs Convoke.
It's refreshing and frankly startling to see a mana base that's ENTIRELY basic. No utility lands, gain lands, demolition, fetch-to-thin, man lands.... just 24 plains. I don't think I've seen a mana base like that in a long, LONG time
I play on my phone at work sometimes. Certain actions, like sacrificing an artifact when you have several on the board, can be very tricky to do with touch controls. Also theres the rare times the phone dies or starts dying and its a race to the charger to get back in the match.
Plus random disconnects, lag (at least on my phone) when fetching and very clunky discarding/ card selection when you get past a certain number of accessible cards
In Seth's defense, even Arena doesn't know the full effect of Eerie Interference because the creatures you control also get the red border on their attack value despite your creatures almost never being able to damage their controller.
I love this type of format Seth does were he will theorize and make decks based of the current meta, super informative and fun. Always a good time to see red decks get KO’d to, love it Seth
Loved that match against Golgari. Surprisingly effective! Also funny to have you draw 3 of your Temp Lockdowns & Eerie Interferences to beat out your opponent drawing 3 Goldvein Hydras
Seth, I was literally playing Arena on my phone while you asked that question. It's not the best experience but it is the one that it fastest to play on. Sometimes I do timeout but normally just searching the library because it's so hard.
Eh I don’t mind it, those matches are at least fast paced, and I’m stuck in Bo1 a lot cause I like kinda janky combo-ish decks or generally counterable things, like I’ve been really enjoying the Graceyard Beans deck Seth played a bit ago, and so if the opponent throws in a bunch of graveyard hate it’s sad.
I run a lot of really weird white controly kind of decks, so I was aware of Eerie interference, turns out fog is really good when you're running a lot of tapped creature removal
@@pbbppbbp works the same in bo3. Aggro is good for the game. Keep control greed in check. Otherwise all the little bois would just play the slowest biggest spells to feel safe.
@@8Smoker8 this is why i despise covertgoblue, he cultivates terrible attitudes like this. If you dont want to play Bo3, AND you dont want to warp your maindeck to fight the meta, why are you playing at all? Bo1 is a joke and doesn't deserve the frustration you'll get trying to make it a decent format.
I tried to do this with "Fog of War", a common from Brothers' War. The trouble with that one is that the opponent can pump their creatures out of range.
I love Fogs. They make me feel all warm and safe. (I also think it's funny to compare the third standard-legal fog, The Stasis Coffin, to The One Ring.)
Been looking to get into standard but you’re right, everything is stupid aggro which gets old fast so thanks for this deck! this one might do it for me…trying it out immediately haha
Not only did I know there was a fog in standard, I already run it in a very similar mono white Caretaker's Talent control deck. And it's almost Turbo Fog with Union of the Third Path (once Caretaker gets going) as the other 4 fog copies.
In some matchups you forgot that you can safely block with your creatures when casting Eerie Interference, because they won't be dealt damage, but they still deal damage to your opponents creatures.
Hey, Seth. I love your videos. Not everyone forgot about the fog. I made a video a few weeks ago that is turbo fog with Invasion of Arcavios and Doppelgang, plus the Interference. It was very competitive. Also, you can block their stuff and kill it. It's an asymmetrical fog. You still deal damage.
I play on my phone on my breaks at work, or if I'm having a slow day. Playing Orzhov bats sometimes manually tapping lands so I can ping myself can be tricky on the small screen and choosing targets for attackers can be frustrating when threes plainswalkers on board.
I don't really play standard but knew there was a white fog in a standard legal set as i bought a box of WoE and immediately clocked it as being useful in Mono white Commander (Dawn Charm being the classic fog in those situations)
36:10 Whenever play on my phone I struggle to target a player. Even when it says "target opponent" I still have to select them but it's super unresponsive when picking a player. It usually just brings up the mute prompt.
42:05 while still maybe not the greatest, I actually think the Thran Portal is an interesting metagame call for an Aggro Deck bc it can help get around gaining life off Beza since every white based midrange/control deck is playing it
I've had a fog decks using cornucopias, eerie interference, stasis coffin, jace, sunfall, etc. Honestly what hurt the most was losing Dryad's Revival (and deluge) That card let me turn 1 fog into 3 fogs, or recur jace as a win con, or get deluge back to cast it for 4 again, etc. Plenty of games I would win before rotation I can't win anymore, feels like a shame.
I've actually been playing Eerie Interference for the past year, and you're completely right, there's a massive sense of peace and relief you feel when you dont have to worry about the combat tricks your opponent might play on their turn.
I mostly prefer Bo3 for Against the Odds decks since it's _so satisfying_ to see a janky pile tough it out against an opponent that's dug in. The current Bo1 meta made this _amazingly_ satisfying, though, so I'm happy for the exception!
Hi Seth, I'm an old fart that has recently gotten back into magic. You have taught me so much and reminded me of good times I had in college. Would you be willing to do a Lich deck (Lich from unlimited) in arena? Thanks, -a new fan
I used to use Eerie Interference with Arcane Bombardment.. and I am sad that I no longer have Bombardment in standard to prevent all creature decks from doing anything to me. RIP Arcane Bombardment.
I do play arena on my phone. But it doesn't cause me to play slow. The hardest part is any spells that you want to target yourself with. For some reason targeting yourself is super hard to do.
I only play on my phone, draft and build on my computer, I feel like I'm way faster than most people I play however I do spend time thinking now and then, I don't find that phone prevents you playing quickly the only thing is when lots of things happen and you need to highlight all the cards that went everywhere but those situations aren't frequent and it probably isn't noticeable compared to somebody who just takes forever to play through their decisions.
Love this deck, it's fun to hose aggro. But what I've ran into so far as an issue is it really doesn't have enough draw/redraw in it. You can run out of gas a lot of times midgame. If you're hoping for a top deck to kill a slickshot later into turn 5/6 you're in trouble. A bit more draw and I feel more like a control deck and love my life in Monowhite wl this deck. But it's a fun tech. Literally didn't know a fog existed in the format 😂
Well, you're not a white tokens deck, and it's hard to give up any interaction since it's so crucial in the red matchups. Idk man. Wish I had more constructive criticism for Seth. Some of these new cards might be worth a look
@@Guevon_Pajaro Yesterday I got to try the deck: I have removed the 2 mana treasure artifact, since it was competing with lockdown a bit and it offered only very limited draw. Instead I am using the fountainport+caretakers talent combo now , for draw and as a potential long term closer...
I love how seth thinks fog and treasure map are the answers to aggro 🤣 The rest of the deck looks pretty good, but he's missing one of the best creatures vs red: steel seraph. The ability for lifelink or vigilance is huge. Works amazingly with vindicator.
I play on my phone sometimes at work since I'm on overnights, and even with it plugged in there is always a delay on MTGA. Can't even move your cards around in your hand Seth you'd hate it haha
Computer Arena is completely busted for me since it downloaded a big update so i've been stuck playing on my phone lately. Works alright when I just want a quick game or whatever but I haven't dared to attempt any deckbuilding on mobile
I usually play on my phone and yeah, it makes me play a lot slower. Also sometimes crashes and I have to close out and log back in. I'm sure the people I'm playing against think I have no idea what I'm doing - when really, I have a slight idea about what I'm doing 😄
You can still block and your creatures deal combat damage through Eerie Interference.
Came here to say this.
Also came to say this. I was pulling my hair out all video lol
Yep, that’s part of why it cost 3.
Part of the confusion might be that Arena puts the same red halo effect on your creatures and your opponents creatures when you cast Eerie interference.
Are you saying when it comes to the card text Seth has a Constant Mist?
Came here to say this as well. Driving me nuts as I watch.
Oh no, Seth is trying to bring the fog meta to 60 card formats
Because the Turbo Fog deck from before definitely wasn’t an indicator of this trend.
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Fog was green ways of beating agro, but because control made turbo fog, there are no more than 2, and they normally have terrible conditions or crazy high cost to prevent turbo fog from reaking havoc again
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It seems Seth also wasn’t prepared for the fog ;P, as it seems he missed the subtle bonus of the card… your creatures still deal damage. Against the hydra deck and also the convoke deck Seth seemed to miss the fact that Erie interference would have let his creatures eat the OP’s on blocks. This would have made a big difference versus convoke and would have made the hydra game less stressful. But I get it Seth was just so excited to Fog again he didn’t read past that point which I totally get, MAN LOVES HIS FOGS.
Very true. EI is a one sided fog, so you're creatures can kill their's. I about busted out laughing when they went hydra hydra hydra
I actually didn't know that Erie interlude work like
Are you saying he hasn't the Foggiest idea?
@@killpioo2 I draft too much ; P
Classic Seth, talking about how excited he is to try out his super secret tech card, only to not even read it.
I was so proud just to beat this this guy with a simplified nazgul deck
33:55 see, I would joke about the aggro players not reading the cards in Seth's deck, but Seth doesn't even read the cards in his deck, so I can't exactly cast too much shade, unless there's a reason why Seth didn't want to kill opponent's 3/2 and 1/1 for free. (You can make the argument for the 3/2 - but I think it's just that Seth doesn't know what Eerie Interference does)
And it almost lost him the game vs Convoke.
Extra flex I guess, lol
We dont watch goldfish for PT-level magic. We watch it for meme decklist, content throws and Crim's Lustrous Hair.
Seth I just want you to know that I really appreciate that whenever you start a topic you complete it after interruptions
Is this about "the solution" deck? I wanted to hear about that one.
C'mon Seth, block those creatures when you are using an Eerie Interference! They still deal damage, so you can just kill stuff for free.
He must not have played back in the days of Safe Passage, because this was a common line back then
@@ben_clifford He's played a lot longer than that. He just doesn't read cards.
kinda funny how seth talks about slow and distracted players, but checks random deck builds etc during his turn when hes streaming xD
A fog so obscure that has its own animation that no one knew it existed
Hey @Seth, can you put the format in the video title? I miss seeing this before watching and I believe it will be great info. Thanks kindly.
It's refreshing and frankly startling to see a mana base that's ENTIRELY basic. No utility lands, gain lands, demolition, fetch-to-thin, man lands.... just 24 plains. I don't think I've seen a mana base like that in a long, LONG time
It’s presumably worth it to go all Plains because of Lay Down Arms. It is refreshingly simple, but also there’s a mechanical reason to do that
The temp lock down on the hydras was 🤌🤌🤌
Those lands go very well with Beza 😊
I play on my phone at work sometimes. Certain actions, like sacrificing an artifact when you have several on the board, can be very tricky to do with touch controls. Also theres the rare times the phone dies or starts dying and its a race to the charger to get back in the match.
Plus random disconnects, lag (at least on my phone) when fetching and very clunky discarding/ card selection when you get past a certain number of accessible cards
@@hmvollbanane1259 as long as the store works on mobile wizards is fine
you're the best, Seth! Lol always a fun time with a Seth video
In Seth's defense, even Arena doesn't know the full effect of Eerie Interference because the creatures you control also get the red border on their attack value despite your creatures almost never being able to damage their controller.
34:00 you could've killed their creatures by blocking since the damage prevention is one-sided.
13:52 it did, in fact, get worse with Duskmourn.
I love this type of format Seth does were he will theorize and make decks based of the current meta, super informative and fun. Always a good time to see red decks get KO’d to, love it Seth
Loved that match against Golgari. Surprisingly effective! Also funny to have you draw 3 of your Temp Lockdowns & Eerie Interferences to beat out your opponent drawing 3 Goldvein Hydras
Seth, I was literally playing Arena on my phone while you asked that question. It's not the best experience but it is the one that it fastest to play on. Sometimes I do timeout but normally just searching the library because it's so hard.
BO1 has got to be so defeating to like as a format since it's just so much aggro.
True. Best of three is best
Eh I don’t mind it, those matches are at least fast paced, and I’m stuck in Bo1 a lot cause I like kinda janky combo-ish decks or generally counterable things, like I’ve been really enjoying the Graceyard Beans deck Seth played a bit ago, and so if the opponent throws in a bunch of graveyard hate it’s sad.
Yay treasure map! The glue that held all sorts of wacky janky together back when I was forcing grixis piles during WoTS standard!
I run a lot of really weird white controly kind of decks, so I was aware of Eerie interference, turns out fog is really good when you're running a lot of tapped creature removal
"Power of the fogs!"
Vindicator over there like "Am I a joke to you"
Covertgoblue convinced you to try his favorite thing - doo doo on aggro
Eh unfortunately if agro makes you warp your build, it's already beaten you. Monored dominates.
@@8Smoker8and that's why bo1 sucks and isn't a real magic format
@@pbbppbbp works the same in bo3. Aggro is good for the game. Keep control greed in check. Otherwise all the little bois would just play the slowest biggest spells to feel safe.
@@8Smoker8 this is why i despise covertgoblue, he cultivates terrible attitudes like this. If you dont want to play Bo3, AND you dont want to warp your maindeck to fight the meta, why are you playing at all? Bo1 is a joke and doesn't deserve the frustration you'll get trying to make it a decent format.
I tried to do this with "Fog of War", a common from Brothers' War. The trouble with that one is that the opponent can pump their creatures out of range.
While I knew Eerie Interference was a thing, even a one sided fog, I literally forgot it was still in standard
I want to hear more about "The Solution Deck"
Babe wake up, Seth's playing Fog
This is pure fun hahaha, love your deck idea
Fingers crossed for 1 or 2 more fogs being printed so we can get turbo fog proper back in standard!
A masterclass on deck building and meta sniping with fun games to boot. Praise the jank master Seth, probably better known as Saffron Olive! 🙌
I love Fogs. They make me feel all warm and safe.
(I also think it's funny to compare the third standard-legal fog, The Stasis Coffin, to The One Ring.)
Been looking to get into standard but you’re right, everything is stupid aggro which gets old fast so thanks for this deck! this one might do it for me…trying it out immediately haha
Alternatively bo3 isn't all aggro if you have the time for it
Try BO3, much healthier metagame. Tons of viable decks.
I didn't know, but I know what imma do with it now. Thanks Seth 😊
Not only did I know there was a fog in standard, I already run it in a very similar mono white Caretaker's Talent control deck. And it's almost Turbo Fog with Union of the Third Path (once Caretaker gets going) as the other 4 fog copies.
oh...you know that guy that died to his own monstrous rage hitting the vindicator gotta be SALTY
FOG META
Nice Rick and morty reference with vindicators 2 😂😂
In some matchups you forgot that you can safely block with your creatures when casting Eerie Interference, because they won't be dealt damage, but they still deal damage to your opponents creatures.
I've run into you a few times playing on my phone at work a while back, but I haven't played standard in almost a year now.
Seth absolutely roasting Warblack was so funny. 🤣
Hey, Seth. I love your videos.
Not everyone forgot about the fog. I made a video a few weeks ago that is turbo fog with Invasion of Arcavios and Doppelgang, plus the Interference. It was very competitive.
Also, you can block their stuff and kill it. It's an asymmetrical fog. You still deal damage.
Maybe The Eternal Wanderer could sure up the midrange matchup for you. Seems like you could have cast it in every game you played.
Just 1 or 2 max copies seems like a good plan
Shore up
bro is just giving aggro the business with this deck. also nice beard
I play on my phone on my breaks at work, or if I'm having a slow day. Playing Orzhov bats sometimes manually tapping lands so I can ping myself can be tricky on the small screen and choosing targets for attackers can be frustrating when threes plainswalkers on board.
You could swap in Parting Gust to exile your Vindicator or Besa when someone tries to kill spell them
Funnily enough I actually did know about Erie interference, I ran it for a while in a commander deck because I didn’t have the money for a Tef’s Pro
19:10 I knew there was a fog in standard, but only because I built selesnya turbofog for commander a few weeks ago. I don’t even play standard, lol.
Seth post fogs, Seth makes man happy.
I don't really play standard but knew there was a white fog in a standard legal set as i bought a box of WoE and immediately clocked it as being useful in Mono white Commander (Dawn Charm being the classic fog in those situations)
Seth is looking forward to Duskmourn so much he's getting eerie early.
Seth, this is fog+! You can still damage the opponent's creatures. Do another video with it! :)
36:10 Whenever play on my phone I struggle to target a player. Even when it says "target opponent" I still have to select them but it's super unresponsive when picking a player. It usually just brings up the mute prompt.
i play turbo fog in historic. so fun to watch my opponents slowly get milled out while attacking for lethal every turn only to be fogged
Yeah with more enchantments comming in with duskmourne, requisition seems great.
9:58 : The Zvi Mowshowitz Special. God I'm old.
Archangel of Tithes is also fun in this kind of decks. Opponents mostly can't figure out how this card works 😀
Sounds like you have another video to make: The weirdest jankiest decks that won a pro tour. I'd watch that! 11:43
😅 great content Seth
I put a few in a paper standard deck I'm working on
42:05 while still maybe not the greatest, I actually think the Thran Portal is an interesting metagame call for an Aggro Deck bc it can help get around gaining life off Beza since every white based midrange/control deck is playing it
I've had a fog decks using cornucopias, eerie interference, stasis coffin, jace, sunfall, etc. Honestly what hurt the most was losing Dryad's Revival (and deluge) That card let me turn 1 fog into 3 fogs, or recur jace as a win con, or get deluge back to cast it for 4 again, etc. Plenty of games I would win before rotation I can't win anymore, feels like a shame.
I've actually been playing Eerie Interference for the past year, and you're completely right, there's a massive sense of peace and relief you feel when you dont have to worry about the combat tricks your opponent might play on their turn.
Treasure Map doing good work here.
I mostly prefer Bo3 for Against the Odds decks since it's _so satisfying_ to see a janky pile tough it out against an opponent that's dug in. The current Bo1 meta made this _amazingly_ satisfying, though, so I'm happy for the exception!
Hi Seth, I'm an old fart that has recently gotten back into magic. You have taught me so much and reminded me of good times I had in college.
Would you be willing to do a Lich deck (Lich from unlimited) in arena?
Thanks,
-a new fan
I knew we had a fog. I ran it in my Boros Arcane Bombardment before this last rotation lol
I play Eerie interference in commander, and had to look through standard stuff to find my copies- so I knew it was in standard.
I used to use Eerie Interference with Arcane Bombardment.. and I am sad that I no longer have Bombardment in standard to prevent all creature decks from doing anything to me. RIP Arcane Bombardment.
Eerie Interference does allow your creatures to block and kill attackers, too.
This deck has 9 cards each 4 ofs and a tenth card as a 24 of. I've just been playing so much commander it's wild to think you have 10 unique cards.
I didn't know there was a fog.
35:00 that top deck was amazing haha
When Terminate came out, I built a deck with all pro red/black creatures. Fun winning tournaments with it!
Looking to the non-aggro matchup, I feel like it would be worth playing 2-4 creature lands, like the anchorage.
I do play arena on my phone. But it doesn't cause me to play slow.
The hardest part is any spells that you want to target yourself with. For some reason targeting yourself is super hard to do.
I only play on my phone, draft and build on my computer, I feel like I'm way faster than most people I play however I do spend time thinking now and then, I don't find that phone prevents you playing quickly the only thing is when lots of things happen and you need to highlight all the cards that went everywhere but those situations aren't frequent and it probably isn't noticeable compared to somebody who just takes forever to play through their decisions.
I think 1 or 2 copies of Mirrex can get you thru some control matchups.
Did Seth say Edible Mouse instead of Manifold Mouse around the 37:00 mark?
Story Spotlight card in against the odds?
Kaya planeswalkers are so pushed it’s nuts.
Love this deck, it's fun to hose aggro. But what I've ran into so far as an issue is it really doesn't have enough draw/redraw in it. You can run out of gas a lot of times midgame. If you're hoping for a top deck to kill a slickshot later into turn 5/6 you're in trouble. A bit more draw and I feel more like a control deck and love my life in Monowhite wl this deck.
But it's a fun tech. Literally didn't know a fog existed in the format 😂
any ideas on how to improve?
Well, you're not a white tokens deck, and it's hard to give up any interaction since it's so crucial in the red matchups. Idk man. Wish I had more constructive criticism for Seth. Some of these new cards might be worth a look
@@Guevon_Pajaro
Yesterday I got to try the deck:
I have removed the 2 mana treasure artifact, since it was competing with lockdown a bit and it offered only very limited draw. Instead I am using the fountainport+caretakers talent combo now , for draw and as a potential long term closer...
I play on my tablet, and generally the only issues I have while playing are anything along the bottom, especially targeting yourself.
I knew it existed, but I didn’t think 4 would be enough to build a deck around. I was wrong lol
I knew about it but only because of your video in wilds of eldraine about it xD
yesterday i was looking at the 17lands page for WOE and eerie ultimatum was basically right at the bottom
I love how seth thinks fog and treasure map are the answers to aggro 🤣 The rest of the deck looks pretty good, but he's missing one of the best creatures vs red: steel seraph. The ability for lifelink or vigilance is huge. Works amazingly with vindicator.
I play on my phone sometimes at work since I'm on overnights, and even with it plugged in there is always a delay on MTGA. Can't even move your cards around in your hand Seth you'd hate it haha
Is get Lost the best choice here? Since many creatures in aggro decks want to be targetted, and you give them two map tokens...?
I knew about the dog in standard because I lost by miss tapping my lands in a draft so I couldn’t cast it to save myself
i know of eerie interference i just never think of it when i put anything together. just so many cards to look at when building anything
I knew about eerie interference, I actually tried brewing a deck along with the green fog a few weeks ago, it didn't work very good so I deleted it
The fog deck that works 60% of the time every time!
Computer Arena is completely busted for me since it downloaded a big update so i've been stuck playing on my phone lately. Works alright when I just want a quick game or whatever but I haven't dared to attempt any deckbuilding on mobile
Surge of salvation does the trick too
I honestly never heard of Eerie Interference before.
The return of The Solution.
I usually play on my phone and yeah, it makes me play a lot slower. Also sometimes crashes and I have to close out and log back in. I'm sure the people I'm playing against think I have no idea what I'm doing - when really, I have a slight idea about what I'm doing 😄