Fog was green ways of beating agro, but because control made turbo fog, there are no more than 2, and they normally have terrible conditions or crazy high cost to prevent turbo fog from reaking havoc again
It seems Seth also wasn’t prepared for the fog ;P, as it seems he missed the subtle bonus of the card… your creatures still deal damage. Against the hydra deck and also the convoke deck Seth seemed to miss the fact that Erie interference would have let his creatures eat the OP’s on blocks. This would have made a big difference versus convoke and would have made the hydra game less stressful. But I get it Seth was just so excited to Fog again he didn’t read past that point which I totally get, MAN LOVES HIS FOGS.
Yep, that’s part of why it cost 3. Part of the confusion might be that Arena puts the same red halo effect on your creatures and your opponents creatures when you cast Eerie interference.
33:55 see, I would joke about the aggro players not reading the cards in Seth's deck, but Seth doesn't even read the cards in his deck, so I can't exactly cast too much shade, unless there's a reason why Seth didn't want to kill opponent's 3/2 and 1/1 for free. (You can make the argument for the 3/2 - but I think it's just that Seth doesn't know what Eerie Interference does) And it almost lost him the game vs Convoke.
I play on my phone at work sometimes. Certain actions, like sacrificing an artifact when you have several on the board, can be very tricky to do with touch controls. Also theres the rare times the phone dies or starts dying and its a race to the charger to get back in the match.
Plus random disconnects, lag (at least on my phone) when fetching and very clunky discarding/ card selection when you get past a certain number of accessible cards
I tried to do this with "Fog of War", a common from Brothers' War. The trouble with that one is that the opponent can pump their creatures out of range.
I run a lot of really weird white controly kind of decks, so I was aware of Eerie interference, turns out fog is really good when you're running a lot of tapped creature removal
It's refreshing and frankly startling to see a mana base that's ENTIRELY basic. No utility lands, gain lands, demolition, fetch-to-thin, man lands.... just 24 plains. I don't think I've seen a mana base like that in a long, LONG time
Loved that match against Golgari. Surprisingly effective! Also funny to have you draw 3 of your Temp Lockdowns & Eerie Interferences to beat out your opponent drawing 3 Goldvein Hydras
In some matchups you forgot that you can safely block with your creatures when casting Eerie Interference, because they won't be dealt damage, but they still deal damage to your opponents creatures.
I've had a fog decks using cornucopias, eerie interference, stasis coffin, jace, sunfall, etc. Honestly what hurt the most was losing Dryad's Revival (and deluge) That card let me turn 1 fog into 3 fogs, or recur jace as a win con, or get deluge back to cast it for 4 again, etc. Plenty of games I would win before rotation I can't win anymore, feels like a shame.
I used to use Eerie Interference with Arcane Bombardment.. and I am sad that I no longer have Bombardment in standard to prevent all creature decks from doing anything to me. RIP Arcane Bombardment.
I do play arena on my phone. But it doesn't cause me to play slow. The hardest part is any spells that you want to target yourself with. For some reason targeting yourself is super hard to do.
It’s not like they can really play around it. Like sure don’t play your 1/1, it’s not like you’re going to be able to win with it post lockdown anyways and if you play conservatively you end up losing to walls like beza or glissa or preacher of the schism
Hi Seth, I'm an old fart that has recently gotten back into magic. You have taught me so much and reminded me of good times I had in college. Would you be willing to do a Lich deck (Lich from unlimited) in arena? Thanks, -a new fan
Been looking to get into standard but you’re right, everything is stupid aggro which gets old fast so thanks for this deck! this one might do it for me…trying it out immediately haha
I play on my phone sometimes at work since I'm on overnights, and even with it plugged in there is always a delay on MTGA. Can't even move your cards around in your hand Seth you'd hate it haha
Computer Arena is completely busted for me since it downloaded a big update so i've been stuck playing on my phone lately. Works alright when I just want a quick game or whatever but I haven't dared to attempt any deckbuilding on mobile
My favorite decks are ones bred from meta hate. Nothing better than showing up to FNM with a deck to just hose the top deck cause you were salty all week from losing to it.
Might could try Tome of the Infinite with paradox engine and some mana rock or something to repeatedly conjure cards from the tome till you hit a ton of actual fogs. Might be something there i have a simic jank deck that utalizes it.
I play 90% of the time on my phone. I think the slowdown is just people playing slow. The random Disconnect I’d say is the phone, but just being slow, not a phone thing as far as I can tell.
36:10 Whenever play on my phone I struggle to target a player. Even when it says "target opponent" I still have to select them but it's super unresponsive when picking a player. It usually just brings up the mute prompt.
Yeah, I get that even as a BO3 dimir midrange player. At least aggro kills you quickly. Control gives you the illusion of hope when there sometimes is none lol
It was a combination of this channel, Wizards fumble on the Creepshow Secret Lair by neglecting the 1st movie and just put in general horror themed stuff; to cause me to build a U/R Modern Creepshow themed deck. I've been playtesting and it works pretty well against the new boogyman of modern in R/W Prime/Cred(Energy). It's mostly due to targeting your own creatures effects. I can post a deck list if interest is peaked.
Fuck red aggro, it really sucks all desire out from me to play Standard. Nice to see deck dealing with this bs, maybe time to construct one. edit This game against hydras, lmao.
Oh no, Seth is trying to bring the fog meta to 60 card formats
Because the Turbo Fog deck from before definitely wasn’t an indicator of this trend.
Frfr
Fog was green ways of beating agro, but because control made turbo fog, there are no more than 2, and they normally have terrible conditions or crazy high cost to prevent turbo fog from reaking havoc again
It seems Seth also wasn’t prepared for the fog ;P, as it seems he missed the subtle bonus of the card… your creatures still deal damage. Against the hydra deck and also the convoke deck Seth seemed to miss the fact that Erie interference would have let his creatures eat the OP’s on blocks. This would have made a big difference versus convoke and would have made the hydra game less stressful. But I get it Seth was just so excited to Fog again he didn’t read past that point which I totally get, MAN LOVES HIS FOGS.
Very true. EI is a one sided fog, so you're creatures can kill their's. I about busted out laughing when they went hydra hydra hydra
I actually didn't know that Erie interlude work like
Are you saying he hasn't the Foggiest idea?
You can still block and your creatures deal combat damage through Eerie Interference.
Came here to say this.
Also came to say this. I was pulling my hair out all video lol
Yep, that’s part of why it cost 3.
Part of the confusion might be that Arena puts the same red halo effect on your creatures and your opponents creatures when you cast Eerie interference.
Are you saying when it comes to the card text Seth has a Constant Mist?
Came here to say this as well. Driving me nuts as I watch.
33:55 see, I would joke about the aggro players not reading the cards in Seth's deck, but Seth doesn't even read the cards in his deck, so I can't exactly cast too much shade, unless there's a reason why Seth didn't want to kill opponent's 3/2 and 1/1 for free. (You can make the argument for the 3/2 - but I think it's just that Seth doesn't know what Eerie Interference does)
And it almost lost him the game vs Convoke.
Extra flex I guess, lol
We dont watch goldfish for PT-level magic. We watch it for meme decklist, content throws and Crim's Lustrous Hair.
C'mon Seth, block those creatures when you are using an Eerie Interference! They still deal damage, so you can just kill stuff for free.
Covertgoblue convinced you to try his favorite thing - doo doo on aggro
Eh unfortunately if agro makes you warp your build, it's already beaten you. Monored dominates.
kinda funny how seth talks about slow and distracted players, but checks random deck builds etc during his turn when hes streaming xD
Seth I just want you to know that I really appreciate that whenever you start a topic you complete it after interruptions
Is this about "the solution" deck? I wanted to hear about that one.
Hey @Seth, can you put the format in the video title? I miss seeing this before watching and I believe it will be great info. Thanks kindly.
The temp lock down on the hydras was 🤌🤌🤌
I play on my phone at work sometimes. Certain actions, like sacrificing an artifact when you have several on the board, can be very tricky to do with touch controls. Also theres the rare times the phone dies or starts dying and its a race to the charger to get back in the match.
Plus random disconnects, lag (at least on my phone) when fetching and very clunky discarding/ card selection when you get past a certain number of accessible cards
@@hmvollbanane1259 as long as the store works on mobile wizards is fine
BO1 has got to be so defeating to like as a format since it's just so much aggro.
34:00 you could've killed their creatures by blocking since the damage prevention is one-sided.
Classic Seth, talking about how excited he is to try out his super secret tech card, only to not even read it.
While I knew Eerie Interference was a thing, even a one sided fog, I literally forgot it was still in standard
I didn't forget. I built almost this same deck yesterday, just with Mondrak and Vesuvan Duplimancy instead of Vindicator and Bezu
I played with that synergy last Standard format, super fun
The Vindicator generates sooo much hate. Place pariah on him and you got yourself a turret
I tried to do this with "Fog of War", a common from Brothers' War. The trouble with that one is that the opponent can pump their creatures out of range.
I run a lot of really weird white controly kind of decks, so I was aware of Eerie interference, turns out fog is really good when you're running a lot of tapped creature removal
It's refreshing and frankly startling to see a mana base that's ENTIRELY basic. No utility lands, gain lands, demolition, fetch-to-thin, man lands.... just 24 plains. I don't think I've seen a mana base like that in a long, LONG time
Loved that match against Golgari. Surprisingly effective! Also funny to have you draw 3 of your Temp Lockdowns & Eerie Interferences to beat out your opponent drawing 3 Goldvein Hydras
In some matchups you forgot that you can safely block with your creatures when casting Eerie Interference, because they won't be dealt damage, but they still deal damage to your opponents creatures.
Yay treasure map! The glue that held all sorts of wacky janky together back when I was forcing grixis piles during WoTS standard!
FOG META
Babe wake up, Seth's playing Fog
9:58 : The Zvi Mowshowitz Special. God I'm old.
I want to hear more about "The Solution Deck"
Archangel of Tithes is also fun in this kind of decks. Opponents mostly can't figure out how this card works 😀
Those lands go very well with Beza 😊
When Terminate came out, I built a deck with all pro red/black creatures. Fun winning tournaments with it!
Yeah with more enchantments comming in with duskmourne, requisition seems great.
What a refresher!
The Meta shift towards 2-Brain-Cell Aggro Decks in the last couple years has been extremely annoying.
BO1 seems geared to heavily favor linear decks, and since combo decks typically aren't pushed by WotC, aggro is the next version.
you're the best, Seth! Lol always a fun time with a Seth video
Maybe The Eternal Wanderer could sure up the midrange matchup for you. Seems like you could have cast it in every game you played.
I've had a fog decks using cornucopias, eerie interference, stasis coffin, jace, sunfall, etc. Honestly what hurt the most was losing Dryad's Revival (and deluge) That card let me turn 1 fog into 3 fogs, or recur jace as a win con, or get deluge back to cast it for 4 again, etc. Plenty of games I would win before rotation I can't win anymore, feels like a shame.
I knew we had a fog. I ran it in my Boros Arcane Bombardment before this last rotation lol
I used to use Eerie Interference with Arcane Bombardment.. and I am sad that I no longer have Bombardment in standard to prevent all creature decks from doing anything to me. RIP Arcane Bombardment.
I play Eerie interference in commander, and had to look through standard stuff to find my copies- so I knew it was in standard.
I do play arena on my phone. But it doesn't cause me to play slow.
The hardest part is any spells that you want to target yourself with. For some reason targeting yourself is super hard to do.
I put a few in a paper standard deck I'm working on
It surprises me just how often aggro overextends, lockdown isn't exactly unknown.
It’s not like they can really play around it. Like sure don’t play your 1/1, it’s not like you’re going to be able to win with it post lockdown anyways and if you play conservatively you end up losing to walls like beza or glissa or preacher of the schism
Treasure Map doing good work here.
Hi Seth, I'm an old fart that has recently gotten back into magic. You have taught me so much and reminded me of good times I had in college.
Would you be willing to do a Lich deck (Lich from unlimited) in arena?
Thanks,
-a new fan
I honestly never heard of Eerie Interference before.
I knew about the dog in standard because I lost by miss tapping my lands in a draft so I couldn’t cast it to save myself
Been looking to get into standard but you’re right, everything is stupid aggro which gets old fast so thanks for this deck! this one might do it for me…trying it out immediately haha
Alternatively bo3 isn't all aggro if you have the time for it
Try BO3, much healthier metagame. Tons of viable decks.
I think 1 or 2 copies of Mirrex can get you thru some control matchups.
I knew about it but only because of your video in wilds of eldraine about it xD
I play on my phone sometimes at work since I'm on overnights, and even with it plugged in there is always a delay on MTGA. Can't even move your cards around in your hand Seth you'd hate it haha
These foggin' iceholes
Story Spotlight card in against the odds?
The return of The Solution.
Great now they'll just run the 4-mana BLB anti-fog creature, Sunspine Lynx.
yesterday i was looking at the 17lands page for WOE and eerie ultimatum was basically right at the bottom
Computer Arena is completely busted for me since it downloaded a big update so i've been stuck playing on my phone lately. Works alright when I just want a quick game or whatever but I haven't dared to attempt any deckbuilding on mobile
My favorite decks are ones bred from meta hate. Nothing better than showing up to FNM with a deck to just hose the top deck cause you were salty all week from losing to it.
Might could try Tome of the Infinite with paradox engine and some mana rock or something to repeatedly conjure cards from the tome till you hit a ton of actual fogs. Might be something there i have a simic jank deck that utalizes it.
When you build to never lose to agro, you've already lost.
I had no clue about the fog lol
If you asked me, i would probably remember interference, but i would never play around it, so it doesn’t really matter
I missed this kind of deck. 😂
Seth, probably better known as Crim
I did not know about the fog.
I knew the card existed because of commander but i didnt think about it
now we need a deck that 100% agains control
Thats called agro
I think BRO also has a fog card. But I don’t think it’s worth splashing green into the deck to use it.
Requisition raid is a sorcery. That's gotta be the reason people don't play it as much.
Doing to lords work Seth.
I play 90% of the time on my phone.
I think the slowdown is just people playing slow.
The random Disconnect I’d say is the phone, but just being slow, not a phone thing as far as I can tell.
36:10 Whenever play on my phone I struggle to target a player. Even when it says "target opponent" I still have to select them but it's super unresponsive when picking a player. It usually just brings up the mute prompt.
New card just dropped, love me some fog
also see: Surge of Salvation :)
Love the video as always! Gotta say tho control and the stupid black bat sheoldred decks make me way more mad than aggro..
Yeah, I get that even as a BO3 dimir midrange player. At least aggro kills you quickly. Control gives you the illusion of hope when there sometimes is none lol
Did Seth say Edible Mouse instead of Manifold Mouse around the 37:00 mark?
I love any deck that plays Treasure Map
There is also surge of salvation which is a fog for black and red
That only prevents the damage to your creatures so it is useless
I play on my phone exclusively!
I sadly have to play on my phone, can barely read anything and cant even look at graveyards when sideboarding in bo3… its hard out here 😂
Doesn't green also have a fog effect in standard too?
No sunfalls or white suns twilights?
Why do people shuffle the cards in their hand constantly? Is it like a compulsive need for action or something?
God temporary lockdown is crazy
It was a combination of this channel, Wizards fumble on the Creepshow Secret Lair by neglecting the 1st movie and just put in general horror themed stuff; to cause me to build a U/R Modern Creepshow themed deck. I've been playtesting and it works pretty well against the new boogyman of modern in R/W Prime/Cred(Energy). It's mostly due to targeting your own creatures effects. I can post a deck list if interest is peaked.
eerie interference costs three and my agro deck wins on turn 2!
neener neener neener
Fuck red aggro, it really sucks all desire out from me to play Standard. Nice to see deck dealing with this bs, maybe time to construct one.
edit
This game against hydras, lmao.
50% of the time it works 100% of the time
BO1 Standard... Ehh... please warm us in the video title. I got excited about a Seth video than suffered from immeasurable disappointment. Lol
I tried to play Arena a couple times on my IPad. It was bad.
I play on my phone, and you play in slow motion compared to me, so it's the individual.
And also this video just showcases how good white removal is versus aggro. The fogs really didn't matter.
All you have to do is play B/x decks or playe White decks and you won't lose to aggro.
When I have to go full control mode it does slow down allot
Why did you sac the treasure to play temp lock down when you had mkre then enough mana to cast it normally? Why not keep it to draw cards?
temporary lockdown exiles the 0 mana treasure token. might as well use it.
reading the temporary lockdown explains the temporary lockdown
Lol did you use ai smoothing on the text at 2:59 ? Just leave it pixely lmao
Pls stop flicking the digital cards. It's driving me insane
I play on mobile, but my phone is significantly faster than my computer because its a potato pc
Video good
I play on my phone. It messes up a lot
somme people play and eat at the same time
I play on my phone all the time
More Meta Hunter decks!