I've been enjoying the Shreddage Jupiter since I bought it last year. The sound is just right. I used in my latest song and people thought I had recorded my real Ibanez guitar.
This is a great track. That lead sound reminds me of Kenny Wayne Shepard playing on the Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker theme at the Opening credits. Thanks for doing these!
Holymoly, I just loaded the MIDI files into my DAW. I don't have Jupiter & Rogue, but I have Hydra and it sounds amazing with the rhythm MIDI. It's great to have this as an example that allows me to see how the keyswitches and velocity should be used properly with this Kontakt library.
Man, that's the best metal library programming I have ever heard! I bought Shreddage complete I believe two years ago and lost hope that it could ever sound like that. Now I know it can! 👍
All the guitars in my song Colonize Space or Die Trying are made with ISW software 👍 And honestly, I've gotten even better at programming MIDI these days, the songs I'm working on now are even better. ISW are my go-to for metal, I recreated dozens of metal riffs with their stuff when testing it and the triplets and fast notes never sounded robotic.
I’m sure it’s completely obvious, but what is eluding me so far is how to apply note articulations in step mode on the piano roll. I hope you address that. Thanks.
I've never used this software, but generally with these types of plugins, there's a separate part of the keyboard that is "key switches" that you will also draw in with the midinotes that apply articulation. See how some of the keyboard is different colors? That will be stuff like "c0 is plan mute C#0 is harmonic DO is bend" etc etc. he starts explaining it like a minute or two in.
I really wish those keyswitches would show up on the keys in fl studios piano roll. Would make it so much easier to remember what is what. Maybe that's something that could be worked on together with image-line (well maybe it's native instruments who should work with them and not you but still).
My current issue is that I want to do a root+octave style power chord. This would be E3+E4 in this case so I put down an E3 in the midi piano roll and when I play the single note it will be played on the high A string 7th fret which I where I want it, great! The moment I add the E4 the problems start. When I do that the engine decides to play it on the low A and low E string, at the end of the fret board. This gets me a very undesirable tone and sounds awful. I've tried to mess with the force string option but no matter what I choose it keeps going to the low A and low E. I've tried different picking modes, fretting modes, hand positions, hand sizes, min and max preferred frets but nothing gets the notes to play in the place I want them. When I remove the E4 from the piano roll and only play the E3 it works flawless any time. I have no clue how to get Shreddage to behave as I want it to, does anyone have an idea?
Can you post the lyrics? I'm currently recreating the track with Synthesizer V for fun and testing a voicebank but there are a few words that I didn't understand.
(intro) highway drive I'm going insane dead or alive never feel the pain (verse) come take a drive with me burning in second gear speed is a guarantee that's what I want to hear every time I close my eyes all I see is neon skies turn on the radio cause we're goin' down below (chorus) supersonic driver mega demonic rider atom bomb yeah, yeah, yeah.. neverending! supersonic driver napalm survivor ni-tro! ni-tro! ni-tro!
That sounds so good The perfect demo video. I wonder why it's so difficult to find royalty-free heavy metal vocals. You get pop vocals everywhere, but metal? Rarer than diamonds. Can you convince Blake to sell heavy metal vocal packs?
I will sometimes be clicking notes in the piano roll, and suddenly the notes permanently turn into pick slides and all i can do is close Kontakt and reload it 😅😅 am i doing something wrong?
Thank you! I'd say in the ballpark of 4-5 hours, keeping in mind that *most* of that was playing around with the actual writing. If I were to delete the project and remake it, with my memory of the melodies, harmonies, etc, it would be much faster, more like 60-90 minutes.
@@ImpactSoundworksLLC thanks Andrew….. I produce quite a bit f singer/ songwriter material and would like to use more virtual guitar in my productions. Time always seems to be the big issue. The learning curve on virtual guitars is pretty high especially when it comes to getting the realism that you’ve gotten. Tedious work. Looking forward to parts 2 and 3.
@@ImpactSoundworksLLC very chad, and i think i remember you did the hokuto no ken OP too once. i hope you're also a tekken fan and one day cover a tekken soundtrack
I don't know why but I still think the original Shreddage 2 is way better than anything they've come up with after that, specially for palm mutting riffs or breakdowns.
The samples in Shreddage 3 Jupiter are identical to those in Shreddage 2 - any differences just come down to the default settings, which in S3 are designed for keyswitches rather than velocity-switching. However if you prefer velocity-switched articulations, you can do a one-time setup of sustains and mutes (it takes about 1 minute!) then resave the NKI and you never have to touch it again. You can also match the sample offset and mute tightness to Shreddage 2 exactly and get a 1:1 identical sound if you prefer. The main reason for the tweaks is that the S2 defaults were not as good for lead playing, and we wanted a default layout that would work well for rhythm AND lead while still allowing you to customize it however you want.
FL Studio definitely needs an option to be able to map the instruments, something as simple as a right click on the keys of the piano roll and have the option to rename and color the keys that are keyswitches.... I don't know why they are such ba%$·%$·ds that they didn't just include it.
@Metazori ... Sorry, but... Perhaps your ignorance is greater than a thousand worlds.... Because, in that case, Studio One (with Sound Variations), Cubase (with Expression Maps), Reaper (with Rearticulate), Cakewalk (with Custom Map), and Logic (with Articulation Sets) are merely toys. 😛
And... I'm sure I have a few more years than you, but I won't get into the absurd dilemma... A DAW should be designed for both pros and novices, and the idea is that it should be a tool that facilitates our creativity... When you're using many Kontakt, UVI instruments with complex articulations, a drum library like Superior Drummer (which has over 50 articulations), plus all the CC's... Believe me, having visual information about the keyswitches would be like 'freeing up RAM for the brain".@@Metazori
Yes! Definitely is a great alternative to fill this void... However I still dreaming to have something more refined and integrated natively on FL Studio...since 2012 many users are asking for it... We're still waiting. But yes, thanks for the recommendation BRSO Articulate is quite usefel!!! @@CrudelisDiabolus
Please do more of this. This will help beginner producers (like myself) on how to make metal with VSTi
Yep, more on the way!
@@ImpactSoundworksLLC Thank you so much
I would like too...please so much Because I have many vsti but I don't work with it😢
@@stefanelanglois_chanteur That's true There are so many of them that I can't pick which one will be good for me.
I've been enjoying the Shreddage Jupiter since I bought it last year. The sound is just right. I used in my latest song and people thought I had recorded my real Ibanez guitar.
All the magic and rich tone comes from the cat. You can't convince me otherwise. 😺🤘🤘🤘
True
This is a great track. That lead sound reminds me of Kenny Wayne Shepard playing on the Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker theme at the Opening credits. Thanks for doing these!
Holymoly, I just loaded the MIDI files into my DAW. I don't have Jupiter & Rogue, but I have Hydra and it sounds amazing with the rhythm MIDI. It's great to have this as an example that allows me to see how the keyswitches and velocity should be used properly with this Kontakt library.
Great to hear!
I've had the song stuck in my head ever since recording it, haha! Great demo, and glad I could be part of it!
A virtual instrument company providing MIDI from a demo? Heck yeah!
I have to thank you. Without your comment I wouldn't even have noticed that there's a link to MIDI files hidden under the "...more".
@@igorwagner8955 I would have never noticed if I wasn't on the mailing list. 😅
Can't possibly give this video a big enough thumbs up. Awesome work!
Man, that's the best metal library programming I have ever heard! I bought Shreddage complete I believe two years ago and lost hope that it could ever sound like that. Now I know it can! 👍
Those unison bends and the sweep picking instantly remind me of SSH, very cool 🤘
Yooo, that's the thing I was waiting for! I hope you'll make more videos like this one for more metal subgenres. My order is Metalcore!
Thank you so much for sharing the project files so that I can work it out. Brilliant
All the guitars in my song Colonize Space or Die Trying are made with ISW software 👍
And honestly, I've gotten even better at programming MIDI these days, the songs I'm working on now are even better.
ISW are my go-to for metal, I recreated dozens of metal riffs with their stuff when testing it and the triplets and fast notes never sounded robotic.
I’m sure it’s completely obvious, but what is eluding me so far is how to apply note articulations in step mode on the piano roll. I hope you address that. Thanks.
I've never used this software, but generally with these types of plugins, there's a separate part of the keyboard that is "key switches" that you will also draw in with the midinotes that apply articulation. See how some of the keyboard is different colors? That will be stuff like "c0 is plan mute C#0 is harmonic DO is bend" etc etc. he starts explaining it like a minute or two in.
Finally! Thank you it's just great. Can't wait the following episodes
Working on 'em now! Should have the second one out later this week.
Please make more videos like this
I do also find, like you, that whenever I EQ lead guitars, I tend to tone down the highs and try to notch out some harsh resonances.
Oh yeah!
Its a great song.. i would love to hear this track with real instruments..
I really wish those keyswitches would show up on the keys in fl studios piano roll. Would make it so much easier to remember what is what. Maybe that's something that could be worked on together with image-line (well maybe it's native instruments who should work with them and not you but still).
ooh, now I can put a face on this voice 😮. Thanks for theses inspiring videos
Cheers :D
This is awesome Andrew! Thanks!
Awesome track Andrew! ;)
Amazing !
My current issue is that I want to do a root+octave style power chord.
This would be E3+E4 in this case so I put down an E3 in the midi piano roll and when I play the single note it will be played on the high A string 7th fret which I where I want it, great!
The moment I add the E4 the problems start.
When I do that the engine decides to play it on the low A and low E string, at the end of the fret board.
This gets me a very undesirable tone and sounds awful.
I've tried to mess with the force string option but no matter what I choose it keeps going to the low A and low E.
I've tried different picking modes, fretting modes, hand positions, hand sizes, min and max preferred frets but nothing gets the notes to play in the place I want them.
When I remove the E4 from the piano roll and only play the E3 it works flawless any time.
I have no clue how to get Shreddage to behave as I want it to, does anyone have an idea?
Hi, Andrew. Thank you for the tips!) As I can see on the mixer, you use the internal Shreddage double track, don't you?
Can you post the lyrics? I'm currently recreating the track with Synthesizer V for fun and testing a voicebank but there are a few words that I didn't understand.
(intro)
highway drive
I'm going insane
dead or alive
never feel the pain
(verse)
come take a drive with me
burning in second gear
speed is a guarantee
that's what I want to hear
every time I close my eyes
all I see is neon skies
turn on the radio
cause we're goin' down below
(chorus)
supersonic driver
mega demonic rider
atom bomb
yeah, yeah, yeah..
neverending!
supersonic driver
napalm survivor
ni-tro! ni-tro! ni-tro!
Wow, awesome! Thank you so much. I didn't think you'd reply. You're the best! 🙌
That sounds so good The perfect demo video. I wonder why it's so difficult to find royalty-free heavy metal vocals. You get pop vocals everywhere, but metal? Rarer than diamonds. Can you convince Blake to sell heavy metal vocal packs?
👀 That's an idea...
Thanks for the warm words! I don't currently plan on selling metal vocal packs, but I'm generally open to collab. :)
This more Queensrÿche than Metalica.
I will sometimes be clicking notes in the piano roll, and suddenly the notes permanently turn into pick slides and all i can do is close Kontakt and reload it 😅😅 am i doing something wrong?
Wow
very Dio, nice!
🤘🤘🤘
awesome track Andrew.... two things... what kind of time do you spend to finish a project this good? Where can I find part 2 and 3
Thank you! I'd say in the ballpark of 4-5 hours, keeping in mind that *most* of that was playing around with the actual writing. If I were to delete the project and remake it, with my memory of the melodies, harmonies, etc, it would be much faster, more like 60-90 minutes.
@@ImpactSoundworksLLC thanks Andrew….. I produce quite a bit f singer/ songwriter material and would like to use more virtual guitar in my productions. Time always seems to be the big issue. The learning curve on virtual guitars is pretty high especially when it comes to getting the realism that you’ve gotten. Tedious work. Looking forward to parts 2 and 3.
how do i add distortion to stratus
andrew am i having some mandela effect or did one of your oldest demo videos of shreddage show you recreating the DBZ Rock the Dragon riff?
Your memory is correct! That was all the way back for Shreddage 1.
@@ImpactSoundworksLLC very chad, and i think i remember you did the hokuto no ken OP too once. i hope you're also a tekken fan and one day cover a tekken soundtrack
🙏👌💪
You kinda look like Gordon Freeman from Half Life series.
Thanks
I don't know why but I still think the original Shreddage 2 is way better than anything they've come up with after that, specially for palm mutting riffs or breakdowns.
The samples in Shreddage 3 Jupiter are identical to those in Shreddage 2 - any differences just come down to the default settings, which in S3 are designed for keyswitches rather than velocity-switching. However if you prefer velocity-switched articulations, you can do a one-time setup of sustains and mutes (it takes about 1 minute!) then resave the NKI and you never have to touch it again. You can also match the sample offset and mute tightness to Shreddage 2 exactly and get a 1:1 identical sound if you prefer. The main reason for the tweaks is that the S2 defaults were not as good for lead playing, and we wanted a default layout that would work well for rhythm AND lead while still allowing you to customize it however you want.
FL Studio definitely needs an option to be able to map the instruments, something as simple as a right click on the keys of the piano roll and have the option to rename and color the keys that are keyswitches.... I don't know why they are such ba%$·%$·ds that they didn't just include it.
Yeah, keyswitch text would be a nice feature. But with a little memorization it's not so bad. Alternatively you can use a velocity-based approach. -AA
@Metazori ... Sorry, but... Perhaps your ignorance is greater than a thousand worlds.... Because, in that case, Studio One (with Sound Variations), Cubase (with Expression Maps), Reaper (with Rearticulate), Cakewalk (with Custom Map), and Logic (with Articulation Sets) are merely toys. 😛
And... I'm sure I have a few more years than you, but I won't get into the absurd dilemma... A DAW should be designed for both pros and novices, and the idea is that it should be a tool that facilitates our creativity... When you're using many Kontakt, UVI instruments with complex articulations, a drum library like Superior Drummer (which has over 50 articulations), plus all the CC's... Believe me, having visual information about the keyswitches would be like 'freeing up RAM for the brain".@@Metazori
You might want to check out BRSO ARTICULATE plugin by Blake Robinson.
Yes! Definitely is a great alternative to fill this void... However I still dreaming to have something more refined and integrated natively on FL Studio...since 2012 many users are asking for it... We're still waiting. But yes, thanks for the recommendation BRSO Articulate is quite usefel!!! @@CrudelisDiabolus
Lmao Metallica… no bro. Not anything like Metallica.